| It's circumstantial, just like everything else in life, there really isn't anything to discuss. |
| I am on the edge ! The edge of the edgiest edge ever edged by edgekind ! я умерте ужасну депрессии... |
| friendship built on lies is pathetic honesty is more important than anything ,even loyalty, that way when you're loyal to someone or when you love someone you know its pure and honest and sincere and thats the most important thing |
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| Not always. |
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| There are always exceptions. |
| Friendship and honesty is magic |
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| Sometimes telling a lie is the right thing to do. |
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MorsPulchra said: It's circumstantial, just like everything else in life, there really isn't anything to discuss. |
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| If breaking a promise to someone else or could potentially really harm the other person, lying might be the the better choice. In situations where you can avoid lying, you should tell the truth but gently/politely It really all depends on the situation |
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Touzel said: MorsPulchra said: It's circumstantial, just like everything else in life, there really isn't anything to discuss. |
| Lying is always wrong. So says Kant. I don't agree with him though. Honesty isn't always a good thing. & How necessary a lie is depends on how bad the consequences of honesty are, in a dire situation. |
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| ofcourse lying helps you because its cheating and abusing others , rofl if this were wild nature, as it could and should be, you could get killed for this. If all people had biological pistol embedded inside their wrists, do you think lying would be so common? Yeah i didn't think so, therefore its logical to deduct that honesty is good and lying is bad, end of the story all the people that say that honesty is not good are scumbags and someone should take a list and write their name down to avoid them in the future. Do you even know what it is like to deal with someone who lies and cheats for his own benefit? Maybe you are that someone but why dont' you try to swap positions and put yourself in other people's shoes? I've been decepted and lied in my life so many times, and im sure there are many people with even worse scenarios than mine, and all this because other people want to have a better life and end up screwing mine. If i had nuclear bombs i would've launched them because people like this made me hate humanity as a whole so there you have it how bad honesty is. If you're gonna break a promise dont lie about it because it would be fucking pathetic, tell the truth. If the truth hurts then don't lie about it either, sugarcoat it but don't lie about it just so it can catch up to the person you're lying and catch him offguard at a later point in life, which will hurt him much more. Rarusu_ said: incisorr said: honesty is more important than anything ,even loyalty So it's more important to be honest with a stranger or even an enemy, than to be loyal to your friend? those are not mutually exclusive ? I can be loyal to my friend and be honest to an enemy at the same time |
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| white lies are good, especially helps with socializing |
| It might not be right but it can be neccessery to lie. |
| I've been here way too long... |
Sacreds said: If breaking a promise to someone else or could potentially really harm the other person, lying might be the the better choice. In this case, you should shut up or tell them to ask the person themselves instead of spreading rumors while justifying yourself by being an honest saint. |
| Bla bla It depends on circumstances, obviously bla. That being said, though, more often than not honesty is a pretty solid policy amongst friends and loved ones (no shit, right...?) White lies are good and all, especially when used in the right places, but sometimes just coming in completely clean and sharing your exact, unfiltered thoughts with someone can have a far better result in a lot of social situations, especially when you're trying to find a solution to a problem. Bottom line, losing a friend because you're being honest about yourself is a lot less significant than losing a friend due to a misunderstanding or lack of communication. Needless to say, though, that tact and learning when to keep your precious little mouth shut at the right moment have saved more social lives than one can count, so it's probably best to find a happy medium between the two... |
PantsManMar 3, 2015 3:53 PM
| I relatively agree with this. MorsPulchra said: It's circumstantial, just like everything else in life, there really isn't anything to discuss. Though, that being said, I feel honestly is valuable and is definitely a virtue. It is in most situations essential. I, a majority of the time rather people be blunt with me than tell me white lies or bend the truth. I want people to tell it to me how it is and not how I want it to be. I'm not a fan of when people sugar coat things with me. Screw that! I can be harsh and blunt sometimes, however, I feel it's often enough a good thing in most instances. Though, not always. |
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| yeah but "mostly" you can lie when it suits you or when you want to play god and whithold information that other people are entitled to yet you refuse to give it to them and lie instead and over-complicate the situation more and create a web of lies and bullshit. this thread just reminded me that the people on mal are retarded and humans in general are retarded and i've been posting a bit too much in this forum , hopefully for my future waifu to notice me but its fucking futile and frustrating as hell. Reading people's "opinions" in different threads , i dont even know why am i surprised bunch of fucking toddlers with opinion, theres nothing worse than this. |
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incisorr said: yeah but "mostly" you can lie when it suits you or when you want to play god and whithold information that other people are entitled to yet you refuse to give it to them and lie instead and over-complicate the situation more and create a web of lies and bullshit. this thread just reminded me that the people on mal are retarded and humans in general are retarded and i've been posting a bit too much in this forum , hopefully for my future waifu to notice me but its fucking futile and frustrating as hell. Reading people's "opinions" in different threads , i dont even know why am i surprised bunch of fucking toddlers with opinion, theres nothing worse than this. Huh. That escalated faster than serving ham sandwiches at an Israeli-Palestinian peace talk... |
| lol nope. But I do it anyway because its too much hassle to remember lies to keep one's story straight. Though, half-truths are the best form of honesty. |
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Zeally said: Touzel said: |
| That's very... I don't know. Sucks to be you. |
| Tch! |
| I think the question should be "is lying always bad?" It'd be much easier to list the reasons why you should lie, than reasons why you should tell the truth. That is, the list for truth telling is just so big. But in situations where someone is out to kill another, should you lie about their whereabouts? My answer is that you should either lie or not say anything (barring the circumstance that the victim is also a killer). However, if it's to get out of trouble or not hurt someone, then you should tell the truth anyways. The truth hurts, but do you know why it hurts? The truth hurts because it matters. I'd rather have my heart torn out than sheltered by lies, if it meant I would be living with the truth. Of course, if you just committed a crime and you're trying to not be imprisoned, then is it then morally wrong to lie? That's a gray area, and is why you can refuse to testify against yourself in court, and why we have the Miranda Rights (in the U.S.) |
| Let's be simple. Honesty is usually the best choice. However, sometimes sensitivity may come into the equation, or times where you cannot divulge the truth due to compromising others. |
| A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!" |
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