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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well he said it... Never use "Lolita Complex" in psychology. There's another term for that :o |
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| Dr. Ryou confirmed that "Lolita Complex" is not disorder, even though it may be immoral in terms of social ethics. His VA convinced me pretty much! (More like I was compelled to be convinced). XD |
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| I'm learning stuff from this. Also a reminder that |
| Oh god who are you people? |
| Question of the Day: At what age does one become old enough to be a pedophile? If you are a preteen, then it's fine for you to find children of preferred gender attractive, but that changes if you are an adult. The age of thirteen for victims seems to be somewhat of a legal threshold brought up in this episode. This reminds me of the story of the boy who once searched up child porn because he thought he was suppose to look at that. |
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| Leave it to Japan to try to make it seem like being attracted to 13 year old girls is perfectly fine... |
 [size=150] This anime is God-tier. [/size] |
The best anime is the Road to El Dorado |
| Well there is enough discussion about it to make an episode. I give them props for dealing with the pressing matters of our age. |
| People disappointed they aren't a pedo, this series I swear. |
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| OK,Im officially in...This thing is really good... hitachiin94 said: If someone can get wrong message from that,it means that person already was a lost cause so i dont think it will affect anything....I really hope people don't get the wrong message from this episode. |
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 No, Tanaka Romeo, you should define the word "Lolicon" first it says. To bad they left out the Dr.Y section, there is still some useful information, and it says that's fine if you turn that desire into creating literature or moe anime, you know, be constructive to the society. It's a complicated issue, and people generally don't like to talk or think about it, so they seek authorities like doctors or laws for a clear and strict definition to comfort themselves, those who are more creative and open-minded know what the fuss is all about and they made some great pieces of art around that concept so thank you Vladimir Nabokov for that awesome novel, and also Stanley Kubrick for that great movie adaptation. |
raveninthemuddleFeb 19, 2015 10:14 PM
| Oh man this Being a lolicon is practically ok and in the safe zone but wrong in social ethics And being a pedo is so wrong in all ways Dr. Ryou has said it all |
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| This makes me think of the never-ending argument of "It's just a drawing, so it's okay". Even though it lasted only for a couple of minutes, I'm glad there was at least a discussion/episode dedicated to lolita--I mean, pedophilia. It's still a very touchy subject, but it should be brought up more for the sake of helping those struggling with it to prevent them from becoming criminals. Of course, no one wants to admit they're a pedophile, thus why research is slow and estimated numbers are lacking. It's rarely ever brought up, as it's best to sweep it under the rug and forget it's a thing whenever possible. I'm glad I decided to pick this up, even though it's never really going to go into full detail into whatever mental illness they decide to talk about. But that's what Google research is for. |
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Lil-Bird said: Of course, no one wants to admit they're a pedophile, thus why research is slow and estimated numbers are lacking. It's rarely ever brought up, as it's best to sweep it under the rug and forget it's a thing whenever possible. Well yeah, it shouldn't be treated as a mental illness for one. Unless humanity wants to go back to treating homosexuality as one. |
| I love how this anime tries to be dramatic and comic at the same time XD "In psychology, we don't call it "lolita complex. We call it... PEDOPHILIA-DESU!!!" AHAHAHAH |
| YES I'M NOT A LOLICON, *COUGH* I MEAN I DON'T HAVE PEDOPHILIA!!!! |
| "No one knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite.” - Okabe Rintarou "El Psy Congroo." Kirino Kyousake Picture  |
| Well then. This episode seemed to be a bit less ridiculous than the first one. Maybe it will continue to get better from here on. It's doubtful that will happen but one can hope. |
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| So I can have sex with 14 to 17 year old as long as I have their consent? I know what I'm doing this year ;) |
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| I definitely think about lolita/shotaro complex as pedophilia. I'm glad they brought this topic up but it made me feel weird how all those guys were kinda disappointed that they couldn't FUCK LITTLE GIRLS like WTF. That's disgusting. |
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| We saw in the episode the technical side of it is represented by the doctor and the way society views, represented by the woman. What has to be drawn is that people who are attracted to pre-pubescent adolescents, as in puberty are not considered technically sick, even if they are frowned upon by modern society. This episode reflects quite well how the Japanese are friendly with pedophilia, can not even you imagine something being done by Westerners. Even in the scene showing a case of pedophilia with a prepubescent child, the doctor relieves saying there is nothing wrong as long as it does not do sex |
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| What I find confusing is that pedophilia is classified as a mental illness, when really it's just an attraction to children (No, a pedophile isn't the same thing as a child molester or possessor of abuse photos and videos.), yet zoophilia is classified as a "fetish." Then again, homophilia (aka. homosexuality) was once classified as a mental illness, so maybe that stance will change one day. Also, sexual desire treatments aren't "cures," it's just supressing something via force and bigotry. I'm personally a lolicon, but I have no issue with people who have an attraction to children and never act on it. |
| We're the same. Nuisances with nowhere to go. |
| I can see now why this series is a seinen. |
"There is nothing outside of yourself that enables you to get better. Everything is within. Seek nothing outside of yourself." ⛩️  |
| Oh oh oh, they are going straight into a dangerous subject... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Well, that was interesting. Learned a few things/distinctions between the different terms. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
ichii_1 said: So I can have sex with 14 to 17 year old as long as I have their consent? I know what I'm doing this year ;) That awesome feeling when you live in a country where the age of consent is 15. :3 Jigsy said: What I find confusing is that pedophilia is classified as a mental illness, when really it's just an attraction to children (No, a pedophile isn't the same thing as a child molester or possessor of abuse photos and videos.), yet zoophilia is classified as a "fetish." Then again, homophilia (aka. homosexuality) was once classified as a mental illness, so maybe that stance will change one day. Also, sexual desire treatments aren't "cures," it's just supressing something via force and bigotry. I'm personally a lolicon, but I have no issue with people who have an attraction to children and never act on it. I can certainly agree with you on this. I don't have much knowledge about this subject to be honest, but I'll guess that zoophilia is considered to be a mental illness. I can actually see a lot of similarities between zoophilia and pedophilia to be honest, both cases should be unable to reprouduce and neither parties can give consent (seeing from children/animals perspective). Although it is true that society favours zoophilia over pedophilia. In many countries it's actually legal to have sex with animals, my own country is included unfortunatly. Another thing which I think is crucial to point out is the fact that police gladly hunts down those who watch pornography where childrens are involved, while pornography involving animals is ignored. You could say in front of basically anyone that you enjoy animal porn and they probably won't care. They might think you're sick, that the porn is disgusting or you might be teased and laughed at. Attempting to recreate the previous scenario and change animal porn with cp and you'll most certainly have a bloodthirsty mob trying to murder you. These are just two examples of how society treats zoophilia better than pedophilia. Still I'd argue that both cases should be treated equally, along with other paraphilias such as necrophilia or erotophonophilia. Truth to be told, I've to say that I prefer civilized treatment than having a mindless mob trying to take the law in their own hands based on their own twisted definition of justice. It's hard to blame those who avoid seeking help when this kind of behaviour is being tolerated and being downplayed by the masses. |
HaftepaffFeb 21, 2015 2:59 PM
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| This shit is hilarious. Score up to 8/10 :D |
| Wow! An episode all about MAL! Interesting episode though. |
Nightsworn said: Leave it to Japan to try to make it seem like being attracted to 13 year old girls is perfectly fine... My thoughts exactly. |
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| nothin' wrong with someone being a Lolicon...as for me it's just some kind of fetish, but for other countries its a crime that could screw-you-up. |
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Jigsy said: What I find confusing is that pedophilia is classified as a mental illness, when really it's just an attraction to children (No, a pedophile isn't the same thing as a child molester or possessor of abuse photos and videos.), yet zoophilia is classified as a "fetish." I agree. Feeling attracted to something is nowhere near the same as actually going through with your sexual fantasies. People fantasize about anything from being eaten to being raped, to having sex with aliens and other nonsense all the time. Fantasizing about 2D or imaginary children and actually being a child molester/watching real child porn are completely different things. I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel attracted to animals who would also never really have sex with a real animal, as well as people with rape and gore fantasies who would never actually rape or hurt someone. |
| I want to bang that nurse. |
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Jigsy said: in the recent DSM they give a distinction between a paraphilia and a paraphilic related dissorder. Essentially anything can be a paraphilic disorder if it fits the proper criteria of mental illness which is mostly based on the impairment of having an enjoyable life or impairment of other peoples lives. So not every paraphilia is automatically a disorder but if it functions very disfunctionally it is. What I find confusing is that pedophilia is classified as a mental illness, when really it's just an attraction to children (No, a pedophile isn't the same thing as a child molester or possessor of abuse photos and videos.), yet zoophilia is classified as a "fetish." |
| The saddest part was that the 13-year-old girl looked 8. But it's cool, guys, imma just go over there and throw up in the back of my mouth a tiny bit. Not sure if I'm going to keep watching this, but definitely sure if I do I'm staying out of this subforum. |
| Quality Queen. |
RAWRfizzz said: Not sure if I'm going to keep watching this, but definitely sure if I do I'm staying out of this subforum. No freaking kidding. wtf, guys |
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| This quote is for all the loli lovers out there :'( "The line between lolita complex (lolicon) and pedophilia" Comical Psychosomatic Medicine |
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KingYoshi said: Nightsworn said: Leave it to Japan to try to make it seem like being attracted to 13 year old girls is perfectly fine... My thoughts exactly. it has nothing to do with Japan. They're not making up the definitions they use in this anime. It's not pedophilia if they are 13 or older (or more like only when they are prepubescent). It may still be outlawed for social reasons (with which I agree and which the anime mentions too) but from a purely biological viewpoint it's not abnormal to be attracted to pubescent females so it hardly qualifies as a mental sickness. Only hypocrites or uneducated people would disagree. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Shows like these are fun to watch. Short shows that provide relaxation and comedy. The 9th grade girl looked like a lolita as well. |
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| LOL epic second episode, and now I know :v |
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| I learnt plenty of things from this. So, being sexually attracted to a JK or JC isn't an illness, but is ethically wrong huh. A new thing to learn. Well, I'm never attracted to an under 13 years old girl (unless she has a developed body) so this is pretty reassuring to hear lol. Though even ethically, I don't think it's wrong for me to be attracted to a JK/JC since I'm still a teen. Guess I really am mentally healthy. |
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