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Nov 29, 2009 5:55 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ending was nice and strange at the same time. Dudes starting to come to terms with his feelings, but i think that hug kinda caught her off guard after what he said, so she pushed him away. Either way their bond is strengthening, slowly.
 
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Sep 26, 2010 7:03 PM

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Good ep... The ending really made me think differently about this anime.
 
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Dec 1, 2010 12:16 PM

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One of the strongest eps so far....

They both are starting to be somewhat honest in their actions...
 
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Dec 6, 2010 7:39 PM
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wow intense..i like it
 
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Dec 16, 2010 10:09 PM
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The confrontation between Koushiro and Nanoka at the end of this episode is a MAJOR turning point for the series. It's also one of the most intensely dramatic and heartbreaking scenes I've ever seen in anything, live-action or anime/manga.

Playing "Kanashiki Omoi" over the hug scene only enhances the effect T-T
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Jan 29, 2012 4:42 PM

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the ending of the this episode was one the hardest/yet most heartbreaking scenes I've had to watch so far in anime... this series is hard to watch but is so enthralling, its actually quite scary how much it affects you, its really believable, and i felt on the verge of tears :(

they both seem to adknowledge how there feeling... and the suspense is just slowly rising everytime, i love how this has been directed!
 
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Nov 7, 2012 12:36 PM
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Its nice that shes starting to grow feelings for him. I was worried this was going to be some sort of one-sided pedo-incest love from the brothers side.
 
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Jul 16, 2013 11:51 PM

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Everything about that ending scene in Koshiro's room was tense and powerful. Gently touching Nanoka's face, hugging her, he wants to love her back but he knows what it means to do so. I hope they can finally be completely honest with each other and decide whether they want to stay siblings or follow their hearts.
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Sep 11, 2013 2:16 PM

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Things are moving forward. Can't wait to watch the next episode.
 
Sep 12, 2013 9:46 PM

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wtf. did she just say she LOVES him? felt out of the blue for me. like, ya but love? heh? are they on the same page? lol
 
Oct 1, 2013 1:39 PM

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Id say that this was probably the best and most dramatic eoisode so far :) As usual though i loved it :)
 
Jan 23, 2014 4:55 PM

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Damn wonderful episode, especially that ending damn well this sure is going to be an incest fest :p Let's see what's next!
 
Feb 13, 2014 8:43 AM

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1. been watching the english dubbed version. everytime nanoha says "i love u", it feels so intense, especially in that bedroom scene. felt like they were really gonna "cross the family lines."

2. love how the brother denies his urges and tries to be the big bro
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Feb 25, 2014 8:48 AM

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Warning- A rant about the last scene in the episode without knowing the manga or the conclusion of the series and the resolution to the incident.

An intense scene, no doubt about it. I watched in japanese w/subtitles, and usually understand a fair amount even w/o the subtitles, however i was confused a bit about what he was saying out loud and what he was thinking. I initially couldn't determine if all of it his lines were the thoughts running through his mind, or if nearly everything was said aloud, or the more likely mix of the two with a rebuke to her and him protesting his own words in his mind. I tuned into the english dub for the first time to see their take on it, and was VERY surprised to see their interpretation of things. Usually i despise when dubs take liberty with scripts, but in this case the lines "I, Big Brother, I'm Falling in -- I'm Falling in Love with you" seemed to be enlightening and possibly accurate. In japanese all she says is "Suki", which can be vague since thats the same type of wording for love that she used earlier in the show to represent normal sibling love. I was able to figure out what he said aloud, namely the normal morale protests, and the battle in his mind, namely wishing he wasn't saying those words which weren't what he truly felt. So in that regard the dub was helpful, as was rewatching the scene to be certain.

I'm still not a 100% sure if she was in effect confessing in Japanese, although it seems unlikely (hopefully) that the English dub would screw up the interpretation that catastrophically. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he was misunderstanding things, and that her intentions and feelings were more innocent in nature. On the one hand he has a super Kawaii imouto laying on his bed, so its natural for his fantasies to run wild and project the hope that she was orchestrating some form of seduction. On the other hand when he hugs her to him her first reaction shouldn't be to run off and get away, since clearly his action conflicted with his rebuke and rejection moments before, which if she loved him romantically should be a pretty big indication of his feelings and remorse for his harsh words . Following this reasoning, If she WASN'T confessing, but rather mainly stating her love as siblings, then her actions would make perfect sense. In the "she wasn't confessing scenario" He rants a rebuke that to her would be completely out of place and creepy, since he is misinterpreting her intentions, and is in effect calling her a Bro-con. This also means that since thats the first thing that he spouted, he must be sharing some similar thoughts, or at the least that similar train of thought is what he himself is battling to come to grips with. To then compound that with the unprecedented and completely out of character hug/cling, it would make sense that she would pull away and be frightened.

In short it seems the general consensus is that she was confessing, and perhaps the resolution in the forthcoming episodes make that abundantly clear. However this is at the least a confusing scene that can easily be interpreted another way, especially if this was the final episode and the end of the manga, which would prevent future input from being proof.

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In turns out it was a confession, and i saw different subtitles that had the line as "It turns out brother that I'm in love with you" . The subtitles by anime.fin are CRIMINALLY bad here, with the very vague "I.. Brother.. Love You" which is inconclusive, especially relative to the other sub and the english dub.
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Dec 14, 2014 5:30 PM
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That ending was really heartbreaking. They can't be brother and sister, they can't be lovers. They should at least be happy.
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Dec 3, 2015 12:37 PM

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that ending made me cry more than i wanted :(
 
Apr 16, 2016 7:43 AM

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this is getting weird
 
Jul 4, 2016 10:24 PM

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Damn it, they just need to be honest with each other. Nanoka is trying really hard coping with her feelings that she knows are severely looked down upon by society but Koshiro just stomped on her heart by calling her weird. He even likes her too and was the first person to show his feelings. Regardless if they actually decide to go against society and develop an intimate relationship, Koshiro is a hypocrite, and made his sister feel really disgusted with herself.

This show is really quite unique in many regards, and I think is an accurate representation of how something like this might play out in the real world, people do often say very hurtful things that are really the opposite of how they really feel just because they are embarrassed.

So far this is a solid 9/10






 
Sep 5, 2016 3:48 PM

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I didn't start watching this anime expecting a normal sibling relationship, but there are moments where I sometimes wish that this were an anime about a brother and a sister re-kindling a long lost bond after not having seen each other in 10 years rather than full blown incest as the romantic bond this show is trying to set up between these two feels a little forced as if they're being pushed together for the sake of the plot.

Though while I felt the development of their relationship wasn't great, I did like the way the anime handled things between the two this episode. It's very honest.
 
Nov 25, 2017 7:44 AM
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Best episode of the series so far..I have watched many anime melodrama but this is only 2nd series after welcome to NHK which has managed to bring tears to my eyes.
 
Mar 17, 2018 8:40 PM

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For the first time in the series Koshiro acts like a decent human being, or, at least, potential boyfriend... That scene made me skip a beat, won't lie. Still, I do think that for Nanoka it's just longing for mature, older and manly guy, and from Koshiro I suspect mainly high sexual tension and some loli-preferences... but I have to see the rest of episodes to decide for sure.
 
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"Do you want to sleep with me?"


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

And she finally expressed how she felt
 
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