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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
26 17.57%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
10 6.76%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
1 0.68%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
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Jan 30, 2015 7:25 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So much nya~

What's with the outfit though? Lol. I mean, I'm getting the Godzilla vibes. This episode was more silly than I had expected. There's definitely some camera worthy shots and I'm starting to like Anastasia a bit now from this episode.

Based Anzu.
 
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Jan 30, 2015 7:54 AM

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Anzu clearly is the best girl...

did producer just laugh after watching the pr video ?

Producer is the best girl screw Anzu
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Jan 30, 2015 8:05 AM

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A day in the life (and promo episode as the producer was watching behind the scenes)

Kirari is hilarious as Godzilla

Anastasia pretty much wowed the crowd that gathered with her cool atmosphere, she's the obvious best of the main cast. I'm glad she got a CD debut.


 
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Jan 30, 2015 8:28 AM
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..Passionate idol activities, huh? Half of the cast just gets on my nerves.. There's no reason to have a few 10 year olds around aside from sales. It's a little out of place. Thankfully, those who got the CD debut are those I was rooting for. They're probanly the most unique of the bunch, so I can see why the producer picked 'em.
 
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Jan 30, 2015 8:37 AM

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vodall said:
..Passionate idol activities, huh? Half of the cast just gets on my nerves.. There's no reason to have a few 10 year olds around aside from sales. It's a little out of place. Thankfully, those who got the CD debut are those I was rooting for. They're probanly the most unique of the bunch, so I can see why the producer picked 'em.


It's more like they chose the wrong lolis, having best lolis like Nina, Chie, or Momoka in the main cast would've made having girls that young very exciting. We have worst girl, bland 11 year old (Miria is annoying in the anime, sad because her voice is lovely and her image song isn't bad at all), and the overrated sister of Mika (Mika needed to be in the main cast instead of Rika).


 
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Jan 30, 2015 9:35 AM

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Producer laughed ? ? ?

Anzu is very cute .
Can we see her take an active part???
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Jan 30, 2015 11:55 AM

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Nice ep :3

Dat Yawning Miku-nyan at the start was so damn KAWAIII <3

Anzu-chan is too cute XD 8 weeks off per week so lol. Best GRILL!

I just love Anastasia <3

And Producer giggling was fun to see ^^ Really like this guy.
 
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Jan 30, 2015 12:20 PM

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I think the producer laughed ^^

 
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Jan 30, 2015 12:25 PM

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Producer is the best girl screw Anzu


CD debut? That's quite something. The producers face always gets me XD
 
Jan 30, 2015 12:38 PM

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Anastasia is love. Anastasia is life.
 
Jan 30, 2015 12:51 PM

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Well this episode sucked. The lack of kawaii girls is also proving to be more negative here than before. The girls are all a bunch of wackos. Annoying and stupid. God how I want to punch kirarin. Her voice is just annoying. She doesn't look cute either. Her entire character is annoying. That nyan girl is also annoying as hell. Ranko is another crazy girl. I don't get that loli Anzu. If you don't want to work, then why the hell are you becoming an idol? That shy girl with the fat girl what'shername is another something. If you can't say anything without your notes to a fellow wannabe idol making a video of you, then how do you expect yourself to become an idol? The only bearable girls are Riina, Anastasia, Rin and to some extent, the jougasaki imouto. The younger jougasaki is also annoying but is at least a bit kawaii so she is forgiven. Anastasia and the stupid looking girl with her, were good not to get all surprised or excited or flustered or anything like the other idiots. But Mio had to make them look stupid with them acting like a cheerleader and a whatever game player.

The episode mainly depended on being entertaining through comedy and cuteness. It failed miserably in both. The majority of the girls aren't kawaii and the comedy wasn't good either. I think the episode wasted time doing basically nothing. If, and I mean if, they did this episode right, it could've made a better opening episode. They should've made this kind of episode the first or second episode. Nothing felt right here. This episode shouldn't have existed. They should have jumped to making the CD debut. Episode 5 should've been episode 4. I am seriously pissed here. A-1 and friends had one thing they excelled at (IDOLM@STER) and I don't want them ruining it. If you can't make stupid looking girls cute, then at least make the story something good.

Well, at least we won't have more useless episodes later on (i hope). The following episodes should at least be better than this one, although that won't be enough.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:02 PM

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I don't think that this episode sucked.
I enjoyed it (maybe not like last ones, but still, it was not bad)
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Jan 30, 2015 1:02 PM
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Anzu-chan and Ranran are dominating this show so far :>

A cuddle a day keeps the pouting away~
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Jan 30, 2015 1:39 PM

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Good episode.

That yawning of Miku-nyan at the start was cute at the beginning.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:41 PM

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Is there a bot for this series polls because GODDAMN! Dat poll XD I gave it a 5 too tho but just wondering :P
 
Jan 30, 2015 2:52 PM

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The PR was really entertaining to really just get a better glimpse of each member.

Looking forward to the CD debut! Still haven't managed to remember their names yet.
 
Jan 30, 2015 3:30 PM

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Last week, we saw him giving a faint smile.

And now... did he just chuckled?

Another aberration!
 
Jan 30, 2015 4:30 PM

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l want the tall one to sit on my face SO BAD
 
Jan 30, 2015 5:00 PM
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More focus on the girls due to them filming a PR video.

Really starting to like all the girls with the exception of Anzu.

Have to say my favorite girl is Anastasia<3

 
Jan 30, 2015 5:52 PM

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That was a fun PR video.

Producer chuckled.

A CD Debut? I kinda wonder what it means. Besides the trio, I'm glad Anastasia and Nitta were chosen.

Anastasia stands out. She's charming and her accent is adorable. Just look a the people in background looking and clapping at her. Also, Anzu is annoying.
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Jan 30, 2015 6:41 PM

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The Idolm@ster knows its audience, it won't be great for everyone, but at least this show doesn't deliberately anger its fans, like what the half-sunk Kancolle anime did.
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Jan 30, 2015 7:55 PM

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best girls getting their cd debut !
 
Jan 30, 2015 10:18 PM

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Miku... that yawn was unbelievably adorable.

God, Rin would be adorable in anything really <3

Whelp, looks like they didn't need the cafe after all.

That was pretty clever Miss Goth Loli.

Super happy happy candy shower!

Cute episode.
 
Jan 30, 2015 10:26 PM

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Nothing much.. just a bunch of under-aged girls whoring themselves in front of a camera..

Moving on.
 
Jan 30, 2015 10:31 PM

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nice to see some more of the idols. they're all pretty cool, i only dislike anzu. :P
ranko is hilarious haha. and producer chuckled :D
 
Jan 31, 2015 12:44 AM

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meh, main problem is that there's too many girls. when ur favorites don't get enough air time & u find the rest annoying, it's really hard to even care. the 1st ep was so good until they added all these girls.

quality > quantity. i'm off this train for now; better yet, i'll just go to where they show Rin Shibuya and skip the rest.
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Jan 31, 2015 2:30 AM

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I enjoyed the documentary/interview style of this episode a lot. It was reminiscent of the first episode of the 2011 without being a blatant copy. Having the main trio film it was fun.

I can't quite imagine our Cinderella Girls P-san going around and filming and talking to the girls so casually like 765's Producer was able to do. (Though I think that's part of CG producer's charm)

I think I enjoy almost all the girls so far, most of them seem pretty cute and charming. But Anastasia really seems impossible not to adore. It's very easy to see how both her and Nitta were chosen when they had such a great interview and even gathered a crowd doing it.

Also worth mentioning how adorable Rika's lion roar was, I love all her lion costume cards in the game so that scene was a nice touch.
 
Jan 31, 2015 4:06 AM
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Seems that next episode is going to be full of drama and salt, looking at its title.
 
Jan 31, 2015 9:48 AM

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Why the producer-san never have a name ? ._.
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Jan 31, 2015 11:33 AM
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I'm having a hard time trying to care about this characters, they don't fell remotely believable, just a bunch of quirks in human shape.

And then there's Anzu and Kirari who just creep me out. They don't even feel human.
 
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Seems that next episode is going to be full of drama and salt, looking at its title.


Drama and salt is what the series needs since the slice of life can't be done as well as the first series due to the most average and below average main cast. Even with said cast, the story can easily be saved.


 
Jan 31, 2015 1:27 PM

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Godzilla is still the greatest fear of the Japanese people. I'm also pretty sure Rin's Butterfly costume is a reference to Mothra.
Overall a pretty good episode, I really loved the first episode of the original Idolm@ster and this episode was quite similar.
And I can see that Anastasia pretty much steals the show.


 
Jan 31, 2015 7:06 PM

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I thought producer is going to drop someone from the project,
well I guess its not going to happen, cus it is too hardcore for this anime.



and Rin Shibuya > other.
 
Jan 31, 2015 8:08 PM

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anastasia start debut CD in next episode >.< but anzu always cute >.<
 
Feb 1, 2015 3:51 AM

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Anastasia and Rin getting their CD debut.
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Feb 1, 2015 8:21 PM

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This kinda reminded me of the first episode for the IDOLM@STER! where the producer was recording all of the girls :')

I didn't know Anzu was 17....I seriously thought she was like 6 or something ._.

 
Feb 2, 2015 8:57 AM

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Episode quite nice even if most of the narrative is devoted to fooling around, only in the end we have an advancement of the plot.
Drawings experiencing a sharp decline in quality.
Passable overall the episode, although it may be helpful to better understand the characters of the protagonists.
 
Feb 2, 2015 4:31 PM

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Nice episode. Pretty much an another introductory episode, by showing some of different side of the girls.
Startin' to like Miku and Riina now, while still disliking some of the girls. :S

Does Riina pretending to like rock or something? Seems unnatural for a second there hmmm...
Producer-san chuckled! Character development right there lol xD
 
Feb 2, 2015 4:49 PM

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I'm largely disappointed by the characters, though I expected it since I knew going in that most of the CG cast is largely defined by a single personality quirk, whereas the members of 765 are much more fully fleshed out. To me, Rin is the most realistic, though I like Uzuki the best so far(shoot me, the rest of you, go right ahead). The rest pretty much revolve around one trait and some of them are annoying as hell. I would like to see character development a la the 2011 anime, but again, like the previous anime, they're likely going to need a similar number of episodes for it. Possibly even more, since there are two more idols here(one if you count Ritsuko as an idol). This show won't really reach its full potential with just 12 episodes.

Producer-san actually feels more nondescript/out of the way, like a relatively unimportant background character, than awkward. That needs to be fixed too. The girls can't just bounce thoughts off each other all day long, especially given the responses are likely to be similar from each one. And the Producer should feel more important to a show like this.

There's also a major conflict missing from the story. I hate to keep making comparisons to the 2011 Idolmaster, but in that story, the whole thing was "765Pro trying to claw its way to the top with sheer talent". Right now, that sort of overarching draw is missing from CG and it needs something to get people to stay with it. I went into the 2011 anime with little knowledge of the franchise as a whole but it convinced me to stay and enjoy the adventure. I'm not saying CG needs to be accessible to people who have no idea what Idolmaster is, but it should have something to convince people who may want to try it to stick around.
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Feb 2, 2015 8:23 PM

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We got to know the girls a bit more but as others have said, there doesn't seem to be much to define them other than one - often annoying - personality trait.

This isn't a realistic take on idols but even so, Anzu is simply unbelievable and her don't-wanna-work attitude is not cool. The Nyan/meow girl is becoming an eyesore and I want to mute the sound every time she speaks. The others are barely any better since none of their little quirks are endearing.

The music and dance has been so disappointing too.
 
Feb 2, 2015 9:31 PM

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Out of all the girls, Anastasia stands out the most for me due to her unique accent and personality, her looks and fashion sense do not do her any harm at all as well :D
 
Feb 3, 2015 12:12 AM

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The Love live Rin clone makes me want to sew an ox hand on her head and slice her belly with a rusty hook while her screams are muffled by the ox head (AHS Coven). I hated rin and she's no exception. Not too familiar with the other Cideralla girls, but they prolly could've gotten someone else to act as the motehr figure for anzu, cuz the slow talker can get pretty annoying. Too many idols atm, and they need some screen time, though, I'm really hoping for some love for Riina.
 
Feb 3, 2015 9:21 AM

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Miku and Anzu best girls for this episode :)
MikuMio are really like AmiMami, Rin-chan is like Chihaya.
 
Feb 3, 2015 2:09 PM

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Anzu is so lazy nya~
 
Feb 3, 2015 7:25 PM
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The Idolm@ster knows its audience, it won't be great for everyone, but at least this show doesn't deliberately anger its fans, like what the half-sunk Kancolle anime did.


Good joke, what with all the "only 3 characters matter the others are decorations" mentality of Cinderella Girls anime, not to mention the loli shaming (stop trying to act as if you were appealing Rika, you're just an ugly kid, not your glorious sister), whereas the college student is instantly erotic just because.
Nope, this is a hideous adaptation, much worse than even Kancolle.
 
Feb 4, 2015 4:47 PM

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Although the idols aren't fleshed out yet, I did like getting to see how some of them act normally. Miku and Ranko in particular faltered in their acts a bit. Most of the others tend to act how I'd suppose they act anyway.

Anastasia is my favorite girl outside of the main trio (well, other than Rin, actually), so I'm glad she was picked for the CD debut.

Anzu continues to be annoying and suspension-breaking.


FireKiller87 said:

It was interesting to read some comparisons to the original Idolmaster with a criticism more substantive than "this sucks".

Can you confirm the 12 episodes part, or is that just an assumption? If it is only 12 episodes I'd like to see more focus on developing the main three. Otherwise they should have enough time to flesh them all out.
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Although the idols aren't fleshed out yet, I did like getting to see how some of them act normally. Miku and Ranko in particular faltered in their acts a bit. Most of the others tend to act how I'd suppose they act anyway.

Anastasia is my favorite girl outside of the main trio (well, other than Rin, actually), so I'm glad she was picked for the CD debut.

Anzu continues to be annoying and suspension-breaking.


FireKiller87 said:

It was interesting to read some comparisons to the original Idolmaster with a criticism more substantive than "this sucks".

Can you confirm the 12 episodes part, or is that just an assumption? If it is only 12 episodes I'd like to see more focus on developing the main three. Otherwise they should have enough time to flesh them all out.


Unfortunately I don't have any concrete information whatsoever about the episode count. I just believe that a 12-episode adaptation will not suit CG very well at all for reasons that both you and I have mentioned or implied, namely that not everyone will get development.

If they do go the 12-episode route, though, I think it's fine if the main trio get the most development as you mentioned. And it's still too early, at least for me, to tell if all 14 idols are truly main characters or if Uzuki, Mio and Rin are our main focus characters. But if the production goes with the former, they're going to need a hell of a lot more than 12 episodes to get this done right. I feel that a show like The Idolmaster lives and dies not just by the plotline but by the characters as well. Unfortunately, comparing CG to the original(and I only recently finished the original Idolmaster so it is very, very fresh), I'm not getting very much of either out of CG.
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Well, if we take into consideration that all 4 episodes were basically "main trio" episodes so far, I doubt anyone else will suddenly get the spotlight for more than just a few cameo appearances here and there.
Or if next episode will really feature Anastasia's group in the spotlight, that would mean they're changing the structure of the series so far, which is quite a stupid thing to do at this point in the series, especially if it's 12 episodes.
 
Feb 6, 2015 11:19 AM

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The problem with cinderella is the character design. There are good characters like rin, anastasia and the chubby girl; good "partner" characters like chieri and mio but other characters are just annoying, like the ultra-loli girl and the "nyaa" girl. The nyaa girl (i don't even remember her name) is probably the worst cat-esque character design in the history of the japanese animation. She ruin all the moments.
 
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Hey! there were donuts in that cookie-basket!

Cute episode... need performances though...
 
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