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Jan 29, 2015 10:56 PM

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Who cares about the reveal....

Seriously this episode was borderline awful. For an episode full of fighting...that was some utterly boring fighting. Stale. That's literally the word for it. All those one hits and the dialogue was about the worst the installment has seen. Not trending in a good direction.
 
Jan 29, 2015 10:58 PM

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In this episode interesting seconds was the end :/
 
Jan 29, 2015 11:09 PM

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Didn't really feel any built up in suspense in this episode...the fighting scenes seem inadequate and it bores me. Hopefully the next episode would be much better to make up for this one.
 
Jan 29, 2015 11:21 PM

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kinda boring ep and those low budget animation. naki saves the episode, too abd there is no "four gem lions". if they didn't show centipede at the end i would drop it. glad they didn't ruin the manga tho

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When I first watch this anime
I thought he's just a simple character who will try to protect his new home/society from discrimination by human. Him being ghoul/human will become the bridge to this process.
Turns out it just another generic battle shounen




anyways kaneki's group is more enjoyable to read than this emo kaneki on the anime.
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Jan 29, 2015 11:22 PM

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Centpede OMG
 
Jan 29, 2015 11:23 PM

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God i love the ED song so much...
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Jan 29, 2015 11:33 PM
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What a piece of poop. Manga destroys anime, as usual. Boring, slow, shitty fights; dunno know if it's even worth as an anime. I can not see how Ishida is writing this, kaneki turns into some white haired emo kid, just walks around drinking coffee without talking and grunting - oh, what? that was supposed to be cool? oh. - , and the Ayato & Kaneki duo. Both are one of the most kick ass characters in the manga, just turned to shit. Somehow ruined Kaneki vs Ayato - awesome fight scene - and then they ruined Centipede - another ridiculously epic moment-. Seriously, just what are they trying to do? and this is supposed to go on for 24 episodes? damn. They've prettied exhausted the best content there was. I don't see how this is enjoyable in the least. From the best manga to the shittiest anime. I think they need some sort of miracle to turn this around.

and as of now,
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Jan 30, 2015 1:05 AM

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Wow...that episode...was TERRIBLE

just a bunch of fighting and not much else this episode
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:14 AM

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Suzuya! Hahaha! He certainly is a good comedian at some point. He was a good one to watch. I hope I get to see where he kills the twins.
That big guy who was fighting Kaneki though. It was implied that he was Mr. Kamishiro. He's Rize's dad alright. The huge tentacles proves it.

Now Kaneki. He gets an awesomely weird power, rather an improvement in his power. I need to see what happens next. I do hope he gets to use it next episode.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:39 AM
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jimjameswhatever said:
Wow...that episode...was TERRIBLE

just a bunch of fighting and not much else this episode

Let's see. We find out:

- CCG planning a huge war against aogiri
- More about Amon's past
- Aogiri trying to increase their strength by adding ghouls from cochlea to their ranks
- The twin ghouls were artificially created like Kaneki and they seem to know about suzuya.
- Arata, Touka and Ayato's father, was being used as a quinque.
- Kaneki's motive and intention which is to get stronger by cannibalizing ghouls in order to protect the people in anteiku.
- Kaneki being a kakuja.

The animation was bad but that doesn't mean there was nothing important happening in the episode.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:40 AM

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wtf was that shit
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:40 AM

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I hardly bitch about animation quality, but my god it was distracting in this episode.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:46 AM

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Z4k said:
jimjameswhatever said:
Wow...that episode...was TERRIBLE

just a bunch of fighting and not much else this episode

Let's see. We find out:

- CCG planning a huge war against aogiri
- More about Amon's past
- Aogiri trying to increase their strength by adding ghouls from cochlea to their ranks
- The twin ghouls were artificially created like Kaneki and they seem to know about suzuya.
- Arata, Touka and Ayato's father, was being used as a quinque.
- Kaneki's motive and intention which is to get stronger by cannibalizing ghouls in order to protect the people in anteiku.
- Kaneki being a kakuja.

The animation was bad but that doesn't mean there was nothing important happening in the episode.


yeah but they all just got shoved into one episode in a very clunky manner. It wasn't just the bad animation.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:50 AM
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GUYS, alot of complaints are deserving, but I believe it's unavoidable because

0. ANIME and MANGA are just different medium, 1 vol of manga read all day is great, cramp that in 25 mins, something has to give
1. There are only 12 eps, like seriously 12x25mins. 5 hours. that's like nothing...
2. and the author is doing original story, trying to reach a satisfying conclusion
3. just sheer number of characters
4. the complexity of the material itself in original manga, in terms of physical (fight), emotional (relationships), metaphysical (one's existence) are its core strength. But try cramming it in anime, it just works against it.
4a. like Akira that her leg bit, that's for story dev (affection w/ Amon)
4b. Kaneki not talking, because we knows him already, and with 20 more characters to introduce, no time talking
4c. the bullet, skipping explanations, all that can attribute to cramming in 12 eps.

Basically the best way to enjoy this is you read through the Manga, gotten all the background info and social developments, and come back to this without expecting having everything explained with Spielberg movie pacing, and chillax.
 
Jan 30, 2015 1:57 AM
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jimjameswhatever said:
Z4k said:

Let's see. We find out:

- CCG planning a huge war against aogiri
- More about Amon's past
- Aogiri trying to increase their strength by adding ghouls from cochlea to their ranks
- The twin ghouls were artificially created like Kaneki and they seem to know about suzuya.
- Arata, Touka and Ayato's father, was being used as a quinque.
- Kaneki's motive and intention which is to get stronger by cannibalizing ghouls in order to protect the people in anteiku.
- Kaneki being a kakuja.

The animation was bad but that doesn't mean there was nothing important happening in the episode.


yeah but they all just got shoved into one episode in a very clunky manner. It wasn't just the bad animation.

Yeah it could've been better but it was to be expected since this was outsourced to Korean animators.
 
Jan 30, 2015 2:06 AM

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Wow wtf happened, did they run out of budget already? Majority of the fight scenes looked slow and weird

I know Kaneki was suppose to lose and all, but the crappy fight made it look like he's still bitch Kaneki

Kakuja hype
 
Jan 30, 2015 2:45 AM

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Hmm some fighting scenes felt really stiff... Fourth episode but i am not really feeling anything yet. Okay episode.
 
Jan 30, 2015 3:04 AM

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centipede chan is awesome! now its her time to shine lol
 
Jan 30, 2015 3:53 AM

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btbluesky said:
Basically the best way to enjoy this is you read through the Manga, gotten all the background info and social developments, and come back to this without expecting having everything explained with Spielberg movie pacing, and chillax.

>needing source material to get the most of an anime.
This is a real failure to adapt huh
 
Jan 30, 2015 4:27 AM

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gedata said:
btbluesky said:
Basically the best way to enjoy this is you read through the Manga, gotten all the background info and social developments, and come back to this without expecting having everything explained with Spielberg movie pacing, and chillax.

>needing source material to get the most of an anime.
This is a real failure to adapt huh

the anime is going a different route from the manga so this doesn't really make sense anyway. the second season is just bad so far.
 
Jan 30, 2015 4:58 AM
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Animation and writing all over the place.
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Jan 30, 2015 5:10 AM

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Australian ghoul

"aye mate give me some of dat flesh, if ya put up a fight ill fucken knock ya down mate"

 
Jan 30, 2015 5:20 AM

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Think this was the worst anime episode of any series so far for me
 
Jan 30, 2015 5:35 AM

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OH MA GAWD. KANEKI GETS A NEW FORM :O
 
Jan 30, 2015 5:36 AM

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It amazes me some people actually are defending this episode
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jan 30, 2015 6:08 AM

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Animation is so awful. Well done Pierot. I rate 8/8
Very bad episode, so underwhelming.
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Jan 30, 2015 6:11 AM

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Horrible episode, like SERIOUSLY bad. Forget the bad Animation, the episode was rushed as fuck. Seriously, horrible. :/
 
Jan 30, 2015 6:48 AM
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The Centipede reveal was so unexpected and out of place for me... He got punched through a wall, saw a bunch of skeletons and suddenly the transformation began? It felt that they did that just to reveal the centipede...
 
Jan 30, 2015 7:23 AM
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It amazes me some people actually are defending this episode

Nobody is defending anything. Most of the scenes were bad and that's it.
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Jan 30, 2015 7:35 AM

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I slept through most of this so i have nothing to say.

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Jan 30, 2015 7:39 AM

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this was very good... for a powerpoint presentation
 
Jan 30, 2015 7:41 AM

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I actually expected second season to be better considering Ishida has larger role in developing anime, but judging by your reactions it is just as bad as previous one. Leave it to Pierrot to fuck up things.
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Jan 30, 2015 8:03 AM

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Dimitrije1606 said:
I actually expected second season to be better considering Ishida has larger role in developing anime, but judging by your reactions it is just as bad as previous one. Leave it to Pierrot to fuck up things.
It's much worse than the first season. At least it had good animation so the fights were cool and we got to know what Kaneki thinks and all that stuff.
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:16 AM
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Zemroid said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
I actually expected second season to be better considering Ishida has larger role in developing anime, but judging by your reactions it is just as bad as previous one. Leave it to Pierrot to fuck up things.
It's much worse than the first season. At least it had good animation so the fights were cool and we got to know what Kaneki thinks and all that stuff.

First season didn't have good animation either except the first and last episode.

And why are you guys blaming Ishida? He's the author not the animation director lol.
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Jan 30, 2015 8:24 AM
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OMG not even done with the episode... but some of these fighting / action scenes are unforgivable. What kind of production budget did they put into this? $5?? It was a promissing looking sequel but looks like Pierrot are at it again
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:31 AM

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Wow! They really exhausted their budget with this fighting scenes. All 10 pounds of it.
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:32 AM

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5/5.
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:42 AM

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Z4k said:
Zemroid said:
It's much worse than the first season. At least it had good animation so the fights were cool and we got to know what Kaneki thinks and all that stuff.

First season didn't have good animation either except the first and last episode.

And why are you guys blaming Ishida? He's the author not the animation director lol.

I am not blaming Ishida at all. I just hoped that since he had larger part now, anime would be different. He is still awesome with manga. He can't undo fuckups Pierrot created in anime. I blame Pierrot for everything.
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Jan 30, 2015 8:43 AM

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Jesus, why are the fights so boring? This adaption has been pretty disappointing so far


Horrible animation, bad directing.
You can literally take the exact same episode with the exact same events and it can be 10 times better if it was done right. Other than the horrible animation the fights had the directing of the scenes just fails to create any atmosphere. Hell a smart director would have avoided showing much of those awkward fighting scenes in that way if he knew their was no budget for them so he can avoid ruining the atmosphere.
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:46 AM
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this was very good... for a powerpoint presentation


agreed. I don't know why all these people are hating on Pierrot. This was an AMAZING powerpoint presentation.
 
Jan 30, 2015 8:51 AM

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The animation was terrible. My god...
The ep wasn't that great imo.
They didn't show too much of Kaneki's craziness and badassery and had is ass kicked to him too early. They should have had that later, and presented more of what he's actually capable of in different fights along with his ferocity and personality.
He's supposed to be wiping the floor with his enemies. I understand that his opponent was Shachi, but they should have saved him for later.

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Jan 30, 2015 9:32 AM

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Z4k said:
jimjameswhatever said:


yeah but they all just got shoved into one episode in a very clunky manner. It wasn't just the bad animation.

Yeah it could've been better but it was to be expected since this was outsourced to Korean animators.


I honestly think the pacing was worse than the animation quality. None of the important scenes you mentioned packed any punch due to the fact that they all somehow led to yet another fight (which was poorly animated, so it ended up being underwhelming). So yeah, I guess it would have looked better with japanese animators, but that's not my main concern with how this episode played out.
 
Jan 30, 2015 9:39 AM
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Idk if it's just me but this episode felt dull overall.
No inner monologues of Kaneki as to why he's doing what he's doing unlike in the manga. Plus, he has no personality development so far and now we're getting the centipede version of his? That's just my opinion though.
 
Jan 30, 2015 10:26 AM

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Anyone else like how Kaneki barely got shown for 3 episodes, only snips of him being silent and badass, all that build up of him now on a completely different level...

...only to get absolutely destroyed in his very first fight by a ghoul that had three seconds of screentime?
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Jan 30, 2015 10:58 AM

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jfc this whole series looks like ass
 
Jan 30, 2015 11:22 AM

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Maledict said:
Anyone else like how Kaneki barely got shown for 3 episodes, only snips of him being silent and badass, all that build up of him now on a completely different level...

...only to get absolutely destroyed in his very first fight by a ghoul that had three seconds of screentime?

I completely agree. I feel as if it's a disgrace to Kaneki. They're not showing enough of his character or personality.
Really annoying...

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Jan 30, 2015 11:24 AM

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rofl centipede

Kaneki finally fighting but he hasn't gone all out yet

Damn that ending cant wait to see Kaneki go supersayin next episode

i feel like they put all the action in this episode because there has just been build up so far

There was barely any talking in that episode

 
Jan 30, 2015 11:36 AM
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The really sad thing about all this is that I don't think I'll be able to take the manga seriously now if I read it.
 
Jan 30, 2015 12:13 PM

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So CCG guards confirmed for Storm Troopers? All those shots that hit absolutely nothing....
 
Jan 30, 2015 12:38 PM
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Pretty ok episode as usual. Who exactly is that man Kaneki was fighting anyway? plot, you're disappointing in telling me.
How many more (excuse my language) retarded characters need to appear in this show, honestly?
The purple-haired weird-hat is enough for me xD



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