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Jan 15, 2015 9:28 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ooh, so we get a meeting on that planet. Is it just me or does Bell and Aida look very casual in those normal clothes? They didn't waste time with the action in space either so the pacing was decent.

Some other awkward moments were like that very brief kiss out of nowhere. I feel like Aida and Bell are getting a bit closer though.
 
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Jan 16, 2015 12:38 AM

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Is Bell actually even her brother ?
I have a feeling that he won't be, he seems to have no memories of the room. They are about the same age so should have been together in the image and share memories
So for now I don't believe he is her brother

And in the subs I read did she really say "lover" about that captain that died.


And yea dude, that kiss was random.
 
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Jan 16, 2015 3:59 AM
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liddojunior said:

Is Bell actually even her brother ?
I have a feeling that he won't be, he seems to have no memories of the room. They are about the same age so should have been together in the image and share memories
So for now I don't believe he is her brother

And in the subs I read did she really say "lover" about that captain that died.


And yea dude, that kiss was random.


Yes, she said "koibi" in Japanese which is translated as "lover". Also, I'm quite suspicious of Bellri's status as well as I share the same concerns as you. I remember writing in the Episode 2 thread that I don't want them to be brothers and sisters because of that Rayhunton thing. I'm sure Bellri is feeling the same way as me in this episode lol. Bellri obviously has a thing for Aida and to be told that the one he loves is his sister, of course he is going to go crazy.

I wonder how the story will turn out...If the G-Self identifies Bellri as a Rayhunton, then it probably means just that. I'm seriously not sure how they will do a plot twist with Bell not being a Rayhunton despite the exposition in this episode. Malfunctioning? Maybe he is the son of the brother/sister of Aida's parents? Can cousins marry each other if that's the case?

Anyway, Bellri is going to be raging for a while before he can accept Aida as his sister. I would like to see him go all protective and start killing everyone who dares lay a hand on her. Throw away the pacifism and embrace your barbaric nature, Bellri!
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Yep Bellri is getting crazy. Bellri is Aida's brother? but where are the pictures of him being in that same room, they only identified him with that Gundam :O
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bellri is now newtype?
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Jan 16, 2015 8:06 AM
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I'm pretty positive Bellri and Aida aren't brother and sister. They revealed it to early and to casually so it's probably to flesh out his character. Bellri's about to go through his angsty mecha pilot phase. I'm looking forward to seeing how much edge they bring to his character. It's gonna be fun.

Also, that kiss was awkward, and neither of them looked like they enjoyed it.
 
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Jan 16, 2015 8:37 AM

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Didn't like Bellri's dialogue in this episode, came across more as aimless rambling than actually trying to say something.

Was kind of right abou the G-Self having a DNA scanner, it's just much more specific than scanning for Newtypes and aiming for a sepcific family.
 
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Samhiuy said:


Yes, she said "koibi" in Japanese which is translated as "lover". Also, I'm quite suspicious of Bellri's status as well as I share the same concerns as you.


Interesting. Wonder why they waited this long to bring up that information. I had always thought he was just some much older man who she respected at a mentor or as a father figure. It was completely random information.

Bell obviously is not happy that the person he "loves" is being called his sister. Nor that he had is life flipped upside down once again by the news of being from the moon.
 
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Jan 16, 2015 11:25 AM
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After 15 Episodes they finally said Gundam.
 
Jan 16, 2015 11:46 AM

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I don't think Bellri and Aida are really brother and sister.

Too bad, there isn't a picture of Bellri in that room.
 
Jan 16, 2015 1:35 PM

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I'm not surprised at all that they're brother and sister. I figured it out by episode 1.

Bellri is younger than Aida, that's why there were no pictures of him. He was probably not born yet at the time of the pictures, and the evil userpers basically deleted all their past information.

Bellri obviously takes after the father, who has the same shade of hair and eye color.

And most of all G-self was programmed to respond to people who matched the Rayhunton genetic code, They pretty much used every genetic test there could be to identify identiy: retinal scan, blood test, sweat test, hair samples... the machine checks all of that. It's pretty hard to fool all those markers. Plus, the people of the castle knew before Bellri even got there that there WAS a prince named Bellri and that they did send him to Earth. How much more proof do you need?

Also, Bellri DID say there was something familiar about the room and even pointed to the carriage about remembering having used it.

Also, this isn't the first time that Gundam has had a pair of hidden siblings in a story. And if I remember right, I think Tomino was taking about wanting to have this theme of "older sisters" in this series, so this make perfect sense.
 
Jan 16, 2015 4:49 PM

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Each episode is just barely interesting.
 
Jan 16, 2015 11:08 PM

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The political intrigue reached another level of hilarity - as always, with Klim in the middle.

Venus mentioned for first time, Gundam mentioned as well. These towasangian guys don't know what they had in storage ^^

Bellri with a tantrum backpack :D
 
Jan 17, 2015 4:58 AM

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After 15 Episodes they finally said Gundam.


I've been waiting eagerly for someone to finally say it as well!
 
Jan 17, 2015 5:23 AM
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No chuchumy = bad episode
 
Jan 17, 2015 6:49 PM
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finally the fishbowl stopped showing up for once lol Cant wait to see the Transformable Hello to take a break too.
For the first time, the story is NOT constructed around a space battle / attack operation / mission of some sort.

The loose loose plot construction finally lead to some big revelation on the two lead characters... the sort of a homage to Char's family back-end plot (a complex story soon to be detailed in the up-coming OVA.).

Bell's reaction to the being a 'loyal' out of the blue was rather logical compare to MANY other gundam character reactions to big plot twists. But the balcony tea scene showed him too casual instead of more fitting to the later confusion and rejection.

Once again, the lacking in proper detailing of many political SIDEs in this universe makes watching the conversations regarding plans and political environment hard to swallow.

Again, 00 has more sides than what was shown here, and audience were introduced step by step to these sides with only one side remain mysterious until season 2. Recon-G simply pops in these groups in conversation and expect audience to connect the dots...

over all, big plot twist takes away need for needless space battle sequences... story is always a better draw if done well.

6/10 because the confusing world setup.
 
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I like the art drawn in this anime, but story was like jumping...but its ok..
battle scene was alright I guess...
this anime had potential but I'll just see thought the end and see what happens..

so Bellri is going to end up with Noredo? kinda disappoint to be honest, cant see him being with Raraiya...ha-ha and I thought he was going to end up with Aida like Anakin and Padme

so I guess what's left is to see how it leads to Turn A I guess?

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Anyone know how many episodes this is supposed to be? These days it's quite rare for a 50 episode series to pop up so I'm assuming it's 24-25 episodes. But if so, this series is 2/3 of the way through and it still feels like they're setting the stage. Not that this can't be wrapped up in 8 episodes, but either the ending is going to feel at least somewhat rushed or a second season is already in the planning.
 
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And I'm here thinking, "What kiss? Somebody kissed in ep16?" I clearly missed that coz I don't remember seeing it.
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Jan 18, 2015 2:09 PM

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I really hope they aren't siblings that will just ruin this show for me Hopefully there will be some plot twist. That kiss with the green haired lady was pretty random and wierd and they finally said gundam.
 
Jan 18, 2015 6:48 PM
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fuck this shit
 
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well i wouldn't mind much the mess up story really, not the worst i've seen.....just hope they focused character development maybe..but we have to wait and see..
they've could just make Raraiya normal again in early episodes so that she might explain further more about Rayhunton thingy...and the Reguild Century background a bit..
..hope that Bellri is a clone or something, bet that would spice things up a little, maybe a clone from previous UC Amuro, probably thats why he has better skill piloting a MS
 
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And I'm here thinking, "What kiss? Somebody kissed in ep16?" I clearly missed that coz I don't remember seeing it.

Me too (can someone post a snapshot or the minute qhen that happens?)
Anyway, no chuchumi, no fun.
 
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I'm starting to belive that Belry is more autistic than Raraya when she landed on Earth. Just look at the guy, all laughing and stuff , accepting for a moment that aida is his sister and that he "kinda" remembers that he was there as a little kid, but then he goes outside the colony, for no apparent fucking reason just to get attacked and then he is still pissed and calls himself a pro, what a smuig bastard.
All that sudden crying from the other characters feels so forced, like how raraya is smiling and 1 sec later she is crying. Is this real directing? Also 16 episodes in and we finally hear the name Gundam.
 
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Rannta said:
aylarox said:
And I'm here thinking, "What kiss? Somebody kissed in ep16?" I clearly missed that coz I don't remember seeing it.

Me too (can someone post a snapshot or the minute qhen that happens?)
Anyway, no chuchumi, no fun.
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- Almost mind reading sixth sense out of nowhere. Check.
- Can move at insane speeds. Check.
- Talks nonsense and is becoming crazy. Check.
- Becoming an egomaniac self centered autistic guy. Check.
We got an Amuro, I mean yes the guy is an awakening newtype.

Also, you suddenly get to know that your love interest is your sister. Possible reactions:
1. That is life, moving on.
2. Siscon route.
3. Cockblock induced psychotic break up.

It seems newtypes go with 3.

Btw, the siblings things was way too much foreshadowed to be true. I could bet it is just a troll-bait for a later plot-twist.
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with that Rayhunton thing, wonder what kinda plot twist they could do?
sibling thingy sure is wierd..
 
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Wait...so the captain that was killed by Bellri, was Aida's lover? WTF? This is the first time I've heard of this shit. He seemed way too old for her. I thought it was a admiration of a superior officer sort of relationship.

So now I guess they're chalking up Bellri and Aida to have a relationship parallel that of Kira and Kagalli from Gundam Seed, as siblings. Sure to piss off the shippers.

Awkward kisses are awkward.
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I'm starting to belive that Belry is more autistic than Raraya when she landed on Earth. Just look at the guy, all laughing and stuff , accepting for a moment that aida is his sister and that he "kinda" remembers that he was there as a little kid, but then he goes outside the colony, for no apparent fucking reason just to get attacked and then he is still pissed and calls himself a pro, what a smuig bastard.
All that sudden crying from the other characters feels so forced, like how raraya is smiling and 1 sec later she is crying. Is this real directing? Also 16 episodes in and we finally hear the name Gundam.
^Side note: *Smug.

I was wondering why I always felt something was just off, but it seems the actions don't match the words, and vice versa. This seemed to happen multiple times for every character. Is everyone bipolar in their universe?

This show was interesting at first with the hand-drawn art style, which I loved for that nostalgic feel, since the Gundam franchise (any mech series really) has been over-saturated with too much 3D animation as of late.... but the storytelling is all over the place. For that, I'm going to have to rate this show down a couple of notches.


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Great episode, but lots of conflicting parts.

It's kinda hard to believe that both Aida and Bellri are both related to each other. Out of a sudden they just accept it as is? wtf.

Also they haven't shown any proof that Bellri is indeed her brother. No pictures or anything. And why does he accept it as is? Even though Bellri's mother knew that he was adopted in the first place, Bellri should have ask for more details.

And yes some of the actions doesn't make any sense. Raraiya laughs then in 1 second she gets teary for some reason. It just doesn't make any sense.

And why the hell is Bellri mad about his birthplace being a colony? He enjoyed the scenery there, but for some reason he asks why he lives in such a place? He also can't accept Aida's as his sister, yet he seem to be going well to her in the early scenes.

The kiss isn't weird since they have been doing it since the last episode. I guess it was just random, but it's a way to calm that guy down.

And why is it that Klim and his crew was captured in the first scene in the last episode, then out of sudden their inside the enemy's ship being all friendly now?

They really need to explain these in detail instead of throwing things around like that. The world is interesting, but it's a shame they couldn't develop a coherent story.

Oh well can't wait for the next episode.
 
Jan 19, 2015 8:00 PM
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This has that Star Wars siblings thing....

That kinda threw me for a loop. Siblings?? I dunno about you all, but that literally came out of no where for me.
 
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Also, if someone could explain what's happening in the past few episodes it'd be pretty awesome. This series really doesn't care to explain, which is fine, but still makes for confusion.
 
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Finally some other mystery is revealed, but the narrative remains indecipherable to the lack of basic information that leave the dark about certain dynamics.
It does not help even the behavior of the protagonists rather bizarre.
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Jan 24, 2015 6:02 AM

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Haha Bell's frustration at the end of the episode. He really wanted to band Aida, now he's going to go through his typical gundam teen pilot angst faze.
 
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Now Bellri is nuts. Why is he on Earth? And Aida ended up in Ameria.

Really strange that Bellri won't kill and he has such an aggressive fighting style. That's why Dellesen and Cahill ended up the way they did.

(sigh) little stuff makes sense, and yet everyone is antagonistic. Tomino's way of direction makes way for hasty exposition. We don't know what is where and why. As a viewer, I feel that the characters are inconsistent in the way they move and speak and there's no consequence. I can't even sense Aida's lost longing of family.

Other than this flaw, it's a pretty show to look at, especially during battle scenes. All we know is that Towasanga and Earth have a deep connection, especially when it comes to the engineering of their machines (at this time, what is the darn point of bringing up the stupid taboo? They're breaking it left and right).

if this Rayhunton thing is true, what about Raraiya? Did I miss something?

Rockpie x Commander Masher has been hinted for some time. Not that random.
 
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So Aida and Bellri are supposedly brother and sister... Yeah I won't buy that just yet, although I have nothing against it either. It just seems like an obvious plot twist to reveal otherwise later - not to mention that Bellri was in none of the photos with Aida's mommy and papa.

The direction stays at a frustratingly messy level typical to Tomino, but Tomino is always fun, and GReco is no exception.
 
Feb 8, 2015 4:14 AM

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Wow they started calling each other brother and sister without proof or even raising an eyebrow. Don't really like the development, like the execution even less
 
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pacing is alot better now that were in space but writing is still all over the place, sometimes its fine others it what the fuck worthy like raraiya breaking into tears out of no where.

Also bell has got to be the most spoiled and obnoxious gundam protagonists ive seen yet, hes such a self centered little brat who lacks any proper motivations to his actions nor sudden angst, hes just detestable, Hes essentially amuro without the character development or rationality amuro had.
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The writing feels so random. Its like jumping away to the next and then skipping another. And seems like Bell doesn't accept Aida as his sister.
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Jul 21, 2015 8:35 AM

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GAH! Waited so long for #Anime-Gundam to complete the sub, oh well HS it is..
I like how Bellri and Aida just accepts that they are siblings without doubt.
And then at the end Bellri loses he's shit and not accepting it??! Man Bellri's thought process is so random XD

Also doubtful that Bellri is her real sibling, since he doesn't recall anything. Nor are there any pictures of him.
 
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Bell and Aida are brothers and ....Princeps!!! kekkeke


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