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Jan 4, 2015 7:58 AM

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This episode was glorious
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:26 AM

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I don't like the new opening but the episode was awesome!
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:27 AM

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Awesome episode!
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:29 AM
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Volbla said:
It amuses me how distraught Ange is that the dragons are humans. Because that makes such a big difference? No. No it doesn't. I mean, she personally had been killing them as a bit of a sport, which is a bit messed up, but the main reason they're killing dragons is because they attack first. She didn't have a problem in this episode shooting human soldiers in the head. Because it was in self defense! It's the same thing!


The only reason Ange decided to kill was because of what they did under Julio's orders, and that they were going to kill Momoka.

If they didn't, we'd have another Kira on our hands.
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:52 AM

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Unfinished opening :'(
They should have just delayed it for next week, the reused scenes just ruined the great song, (same artist that did the evangelion op song)

Embryo is so HOT, I'd go gay for him :) all of the homo
 
Jan 4, 2015 9:00 AM
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I approve of these pairings. I hope this is a sign of things to come.
 
Jan 4, 2015 9:08 AM

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New OP and ED just doesn't fit the visuals.. Anw the songs are ok.
 
Jan 4, 2015 9:25 AM

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Julio is gone which was nice. Hated that guy. It seems the Villkiss changes colors and there is different powers according to that.
 
Jan 4, 2015 10:14 AM

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Well since the brother(apparently) got killed this early I'm guessing Embryo, who pretty much is his double in appearance anyway, will become the final boss. Though admittedly his healing of a couple of the girls does leave his true aim ambiguous. I'd still say it's a safe bet he's final boss material.

Preferred the first op and ed.
 
Jan 4, 2015 10:18 AM

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This show could have easily survived without the hentai porn crap, tbh, it would have given it more depth.
 
Jan 4, 2015 10:39 AM

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Glad to see all the main character Norma made it out alive. Although most of nameless characters are now dead. I got panicky when I heard Momoka and Chris get shot.
 
Jan 4, 2015 10:49 AM

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Well, that's it for Julio, I wish his Dragon Bitch would died as well.
 
Jan 4, 2015 10:55 AM

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Woo Cross Ange's back, and I didn't think I'd say that when I first started watching the series.

Tusk being a boss saving Vivian in style. New OP and ED were nice but a lot of re-used animation from first ones so I'm guessing they're not finished yet. Actually just seen the article regarding that so I guess it'll be changed next week.

Embryo seems pretty overpowered but he's making for a pretty interesting character to watch, and it was nice to hear a male rendition of that song.


Tbh op enemies make things more interesting. Probably one of the reasons Code Geass had so much tension.

Hopefully ep14 can keep it up.
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Jan 4, 2015 11:04 AM

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We got a new opening song.

Julio is gone now. I wonder who is that Embryo guy?
 
Jan 4, 2015 11:22 AM

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I'm loving both of those new OP and ED songs :p but i don't quite like it when they still reused some of the scenes on the first OP and ED. And it looks like Ange's Vilkiss can be transformed into different forms? with different powers. Colored in red = Offensive mode, Colored in blue = Speed?
 
Jan 4, 2015 11:27 AM

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Lame opening song.
The studio couldn't finish photography on time so the new frames will be fixed next episode (hopefully).


As for the episode itself.. did you SEE that laser beam sword?! Ange melting the **** out of everything in sight 0_o

And ayone else notice that Embryo guy doesn't even use the light of Mana to revive people? It's been one heck of an episode, Norma being executed, Ange & Tusk going homicidal, the brother dies, Vilkiss has multiple combat modes etc.
Brilliant stuff.
 
Jan 4, 2015 11:54 AM

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I was wondering when a massacre was going to take place. Those norma kids just got gunned down without any screaming or anything. Embryo seems like an interesting villain, he's probably gathering up the paramail riders as pawns methinks
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Jan 4, 2015 11:56 AM
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-What happened to Salia and why is she jealous of Ange? She couldn't have used Vilkiss anyway as she wasn't royal and didn't have the ring.

-Where were Ersha and Chris? They were last seen on the deck but weren't with the ship with Jill.

-Why did Alektra change her name to Jill anyway?
 
Jan 4, 2015 11:59 AM

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-Why did Alektra change her name to Jill anyway?

coz alektra sounds stupid and she recently played resident evil 3 nemesis
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Jan 4, 2015 12:08 PM

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I don't know weather Embryo is a villian or not, but he if his a villain than hell yeah he is far more interesting than Julio was and thank god that coward is dead . Best moment of the episode and Embryo best Character yet :)

At this point i am not going to even bother to guess who is with who and what side. For all we now jill could be the final enemy, u can never tell with this complex plot.

If sunrise started this series like this from the beginning people would not have been so quick to drop it. what a waste.
 
Jan 4, 2015 12:18 PM

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I love you 2015 for killing that guy, massacre those poor kids is so cruel..
We have an Interesting villain now..

 
Jan 4, 2015 12:20 PM

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-What happened to Salia and why is she jealous of Ange? She couldn't have used Vilkiss anyway as she wasn't royal and didn't have the ring.

-Where were Ersha and Chris? They were last seen on the deck but weren't with the ship with Jill.

-Why did Alektra change her name to Jill anyway?


No ring, but Salia is of royal lineage. Her sister (Alektra/Jill) was a princess. Anyhow her sister promised her the Vilkiss, which I guess was a big deal to her.

If anything though, it's not as silly as Kunato's obsession with the Tsugumori from Knights of Sidonia.
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Jan 4, 2015 12:24 PM
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I was wondering when a massacre was going to take place. Those norma kids just got gunned down without any screaming or anything. Embryo seems like an interesting villain, he's probably gathering up the paramail riders as pawns methinks

Yeah, some of the other bits reminded me of EoE of all things, huh.
 
Jan 4, 2015 12:24 PM

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5/5

I like the new OP and some added stuff to it.
Episode was gruesome with charcoaled children and the little war going on.
So is embryo a good guy or bad? Have no idea
Episode got my head twisted into a few knots, but its enjoyable.
 
Jan 4, 2015 12:36 PM

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Sunrise Studio 8 already had Buddy Complex sequel

Haha, I wish, but nope ;_;
 
Jan 4, 2015 1:41 PM

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This show CONTINUES to impress me!
Poor girls though. damn. Most of them were incinerated. The kids too... its good to hear that some of the soldiers were NOT on board with killing the kids though. Wonder what happened to the captured ones if Ange destroyed the ships? And so the Embryo guy is dangerous according to Tusk, but also strangely benevolent? I mean he did revive those girls. wonder if those two were important somehow?
Next episode it looks like Vivi turns back into a dragon.

Also, new op SUCKS.
But the new ED is pretty good!
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Jan 4, 2015 1:53 PM

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bastek66 said:
Nachtwandler_21 said:
Sunrise Studio 8 already had Buddy Complex sequel

Haha, I wish, but nope ;_;


Yeah i wished too, but apparently the low sells off DVDs buried the chances of a new season, the Two OVAs episodes definitely finished all
 
Jan 4, 2015 2:03 PM

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I hope Embryo really is the new villain and not some bullshit like he's a semi good guy(because this show lacks a good villain)

New OP&ED is meh...not that it matters for me because I usually skip anyway.
 
Jan 4, 2015 2:06 PM
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New OP sucks.

God when will Salia die already,she's such a whiny bitch.

Lol,killed off Chris like nothing.Then they revived her her...whatever.

Hope Embryo makes a good villain/antihero,whatever he is.

 
Jan 4, 2015 2:19 PM
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Embryo is too OP to be an enjoyable antagonist. Good battle otherwise.
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Jan 4, 2015 2:26 PM

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Embryo is actually pretty compelling as antagonist imo. Yes, he is OP, but so is Ange.

GOD, the wait for each episode kills me. I am actually very interested in how things will turn out.
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Jan 4, 2015 3:06 PM

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I've waited a week for this!

Anyway, I knew that Julio guy would try to kill everyone. I almost jumped out of my seat when Chris got shot in the head... thought for sure she was a goner. And the way Embryo pwned Julio... damn! Glad he's gone, though. Now, either Embryo or Julio's dragon bitch will be the main villain of the series.

New OP is way too tranquil, but new ED is cool. Let's hope we get some actual animation next week.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
Jan 4, 2015 3:09 PM

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New OP and ED uh.

So many deaths this episode, and god powers too.
But Tusk acted like a boss, next episode's gonna be interesting.
 
Jan 4, 2015 3:21 PM

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So does this guy just do whatever he feels like on a whim? I thought Embryo wanted "Humanity" to kill of his mistakes the "Norma". Yet he is goin around like Jesus healing Norma o.o
 
Jan 4, 2015 3:33 PM
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I definitely liked the first OP more than this one. It's still fine though. On the flip side, I like the ending theme a lot.

Anyway, glad this show is back after the one week break. Julio is finally gone, though it was Embryo who did the dirty work and not Ange. I still can't get over how crazy insane those tornado cannons are! O.o SO STRONG!
 
Jan 4, 2015 4:22 PM

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Not really feeling the new OP. And Hilda is still best girl.
Next episode is all about Tusk and Ange...gross, wherever that guy goes, annoying cliches follow.
 
Jan 4, 2015 4:44 PM
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To those wondering about the OP Fukuda gave an apology that the OP animation wasn't totally finished for the episode so expect changes in the future. Also, the home release version of this OP is apparently going to send the fan-service meter over 9,000.
 
Jan 4, 2015 4:47 PM
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New OP is way too tranquil, but new ED is cool. Let's hope we get some actual animation next week.


The OP seems to be trying to be angsty...ugh, I don't really want anyone to die, but this being Sunrise mecha and all, I don't have many hopes. But then again, Fukuda is involved too.

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Also, the home release version of this OP is apparently going to send the fan-service meter over 9,000.


I'll admit, I can't wait...dat delicious Sala, I can't get her out of my head.
 
Jan 4, 2015 4:50 PM
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That song at 13:44 when Ange is fighting, what's it called?
 
Jan 4, 2015 4:59 PM
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Well, I will give credit where it is due. I still think the plot is a big mess that looks like the result of a drunken dice game, but it is clever what they did with Aura the dragons mentioned 2 episodes ago. I was under the impression it had something to do with the Light of Mana or the Dragon's equivalent. I seriously did not expect it to be a submarine.

Still, Emma, how stupid can you be? I expected a submarine to show up to save the day since I saw the flash back of the Ancient Human's submarine getting to Arzenal. It shouldn't be too surprising that they left one for the Normas. However, how in the world did they manage to hide and build a sophisticated submarine base without anyone noticing? I guess Emma got her job from daddy's connections.
 
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Jan 4, 2015 6:23 PM
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I watched this anime purely because it's a rare original anime but so far, my impression is this is a poorly written show without internal consistency.

My first pet peeve: why the fuck does the female Mail Riders have the wear bikinis? They even pointed that out in episode 2 then just wave it off? Tusk is wearing full Battle Dress Uniform for eg. I know it's to pander to the otaku fanbase but .... urghhh. You are flying through the air very fast, at very high altitude, in an open cockpit it's gonna be cold so at least throw on a sweater. Not to mention debris, shrapnel, bullets and other hazardous stuff.

Second, why the open cockpit? Really. if i were a closed cockpit, Chris would not have taken a shot to the head.

Third: episode 12. No better way to drive the narrative than an exposition dump?

Fourth: why the fuck does the Normas just kinda accept their fate? Especially when their leader know the truth. And she did not really have a contingency plan? She did, thus the escaping sub or whatever, but with 90% of your subordinates dead, that's a crappy plan. There's exactly one Mana user commander to oversee the whole base, who is kinda incompetent in the first place.
 
Jan 4, 2015 7:26 PM

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As expected of Sunrise the mix of unexpected elements makes it so exciting, wonder if the submarine will also act like a spaceship as some of the battle scenes in the OP seem to take place there.
 
Jan 4, 2015 7:49 PM

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I stopped watching for a while but I'm glad I went back to it. Looking forward to the rest.
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:18 PM
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New op and ed songs aren't bad at all, they should switch places with each other (good thing the animation will be changed to new scenes cause the reuse bothered the shit out of me)

This episode was pretty crazy, I like where the plot is going. Was hoping Ange would've killed Julio but I am very interested in Embryo. I wonder when that hot chinese princess looking girl will appear again.
 
Jan 4, 2015 8:35 PM
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oh man. i really love this anime. finally that ahole dies :D

lets see how the story will develop from hereon
 
Jan 4, 2015 9:08 PM

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I just hope Ange ends up with Tusk and not the dragon princess.

Yeah me too, thats one of my fears, not an avid fan of yuri here so yeah, hopefully the next episode judging by the title "Ange and Tusk" will make it clearer to us who Ange may end up with HOPEFULLY lol


Who are you people, get out of here, i dont ever want to see this again
ange and the princess is where its at.
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Jan 4, 2015 9:22 PM

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So is Embryo God?!
Though he is the creator of mana
Vilkiss new mode
Paint it Red makes it 3x as fast
Make it Blue to do GN Particle teleportation
Embryo, again, so he knows the Endless Song
 
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guyklc said:
I've waited a week for this!

Anyway, I knew that Julio guy would try to kill everyone. I almost jumped out of my seat when Chris got shot in the head... thought for sure she was a goner. And the way Embryo pwned Julio... damn! Glad he's gone, though. Now, either Embryo or Julio's dragon bitch will be the main villain of the series.

New OP is way too tranquil, but new ED is cool. Let's hope we get some actual animation next week.


It's been two weeks bust. But it was worth the wait for this intense episode.
 
Jan 4, 2015 11:19 PM

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villkiss very handy three color switch mode

OP1 is better than the new OP2 but! ED2 is OK!
 
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