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Dec 31, 2014 6:55 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Great ending to these episodes. Really liked how some of the action and humor were done overall. Senjougahara also makes an appearance an what a tease that was.

Ononoki's roles in this were cleverly done as well with her actions. Well she has her reasons of getting rid of Teori. It looks like she will be staying with Araragi for awhile too. ED song was great.

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Dec 31, 2014 7:04 AM

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so... no announce for new season? :((
 
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So they stepped up their game a little bit since MSS in my opinion. Bringing in more appealing backgrounds and effects, new music and such. Neko Kuro and MSS couldn't compete with either the weirdness of Bake's stylization or the high budget of Nise so the series started to look a bit stale. Hana and especially this shows that this format suits the series better (ignoring that Neko Kuro was released the same way and they should have had more time to produce it). But I have a feeling that Owari will be a 2 cour or something like that again...
Anyway, Tsuki got some of Araragi's plot rolling, or rather unravel that stuff that was going on behind the scenes. Curious how they will fit Koyomimonogatari in there since the only essential scene there will be about the last 5 minutes...
Also they changed the style of the text panels. Now making it more obvious that those are novel excerpts, kind of fitting the "story being told" style.
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Dec 31, 2014 7:07 AM

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pikeman1 said:
so... no announce for new season? :((


Unfortunately, no. There was no announcement of anything :/
 
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Dec 31, 2014 7:51 AM

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Amazing show.

can't wait for the raws to finish download and screen cap all of it.

I loved how everything was new, the backgrounds, the monlogue cards, etc...
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~
 
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Dec 31, 2014 8:00 AM

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pikeman1 said:
so... no announce for new season? :((
They'll animate everything is due time, I'm guessing Owarimonogatari will get a whole TV series instead of a special and will come out next though, maybe Fall if we are lucky.
 
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Dec 31, 2014 11:21 AM

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i love the whole foreshadowing of becoming an adult
even when oshino ouji states that "the more u lose the more you mature" it just gives me chills

cuz after seeing hana (which is the last part of the story, for now who knows what nisio wants to do) we realize how mature araragi has become. to the point where he is still araragi but you can tell there was a great deal of maturity.

i think the reason i liked tsuki more than hana is because hana seemed liked a conclusion and conclusions aren't really "fun" per say, they are just to wrap everything up.

From here on out I'm really excited to see the rest of the adaptions….just know shits bout to go down
 
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Dec 31, 2014 11:31 AM

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Moodie said:
i love the whole foreshadowing of becoming an adult
even when oshino ouji states that "the more u lose the more you mature" it just gives me chills

cuz after seeing hana (which is the last part of the story, for now who knows what nisio wants to do) we realize how mature araragi has become. to the point where he is still araragi but you can tell there was a great deal of maturity.

i think the reason i liked tsuki more than hana is because hana seemed liked a conclusion and conclusions aren't really "fun" per say, they are just to wrap everything up.

From here on out I'm really excited to see the rest of the adaptions….just know shits bout to go down


if you get the foreshadowed statements made by Tadatsuru, you'll get more excited though.
 
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yukaru00 said:
Moodie said:
i love the whole foreshadowing of becoming an adult
even when oshino ouji states that "the more u lose the more you mature" it just gives me chills

cuz after seeing hana (which is the last part of the story, for now who knows what nisio wants to do) we realize how mature araragi has become. to the point where he is still araragi but you can tell there was a great deal of maturity.

i think the reason i liked tsuki more than hana is because hana seemed liked a conclusion and conclusions aren't really "fun" per say, they are just to wrap everything up.

From here on out I'm really excited to see the rest of the adaptions….just know shits bout to go down


if you get the foreshadowed statements made by Tadatsuru, you'll get more excited though.
i did as well

god how i love this series so much, i hope the complexity isn't going over peoples heads tbh it would be a shame if ppl are just taking it at face value
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Dec 31, 2014 11:49 AM

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Moodie said:

god how i love this series so much, i hope the complexity isn't going over peoples heads tbh it would be a shame if ppl are just taking it at face value


To be honest,
Tsukimonogatari didnt have much underlying stuff compared to SS, Hana and Owari 1.
I just hope Shaft doesn't blow on Ougi Formula. That was best Monogatari shit after Kabuki book.
 
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yukaru00 said:
Moodie said:

god how i love this series so much, i hope the complexity isn't going over peoples heads tbh it would be a shame if ppl are just taking it at face value


To be honest,
Tsukimonogatari didnt have much underlying stuff compared to SS, Hana and Owari 1.
I just hope Shaft doesn't blow on Ougi Formula. That was best Monogatari shit after Kabuki book.
have they really "blown it" when it comes to the gatari series

unlike their other works besides madoka it seems that they are putting a lot of effort in this it seems that not only is the big sales helping them out but the staff at shaft studio really do enjoy this series. Even tho shinbo isn't the only man directing it it seems that this is exactly what he wanted to make for the longest. I've seen his older stuff and this series is really tailor made for the likes of him
 
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Moodie said:
have they really "blown it" when it comes to the gatari series

unlike their other works besides madoka it seems that they are putting a lot of effort in this it seems that not only is the big sales helping them out but the staff at shaft studio really do enjoy this series. Even tho shinbo isn't the only man directing it it seems that this is exactly what he wanted to make for the longest. I've seen his older stuff and this series is really tailor made for the likes of him


kabuki. blown too much. animu felt inferior than the book itself.
or maybe it is just me and and my head.
 
Dec 31, 2014 12:38 PM

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Man the whole thing was just fantastic, and everything introduced here and only made my excitement for the rest of the final season grow stronger.
 
Dec 31, 2014 1:53 PM

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Amazing!
Absolutely enjoyed it and that OST at the hour mark was amazing.
9/10
Oh god who are you people?
 
Dec 31, 2014 2:06 PM

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Completely ragey ending to an awesome OVA(?) or whatever Tsuki is. And ending it with ClariS's new song "border/broder" is just the icing on the cake. What a way to bring in the New Year. The rest of Final Season should be epic.
 
Dec 31, 2014 2:53 PM
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Finished watching it all right now. It was great.
 
Dec 31, 2014 3:18 PM

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Lovely interaction between Ononoki and Shinobu once again
 
Dec 31, 2014 3:19 PM

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Does anyone know what this is? Was strolling in /a/ on a monogatari thread and found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYXusSjThKk

Seems like another Hanekawa arc? although I'm pretty sure it has to be something else since I thought they finished with her arcs
 
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Does anyone know what this is? Was strolling in /a/ on a monogatari thread and found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYXusSjThKk

Seems like another Hanekawa arc? although I'm pretty sure it has to be something else since I thought they finished with her arcs


That's just a commercial for a recent Nisio books that was released. I guess the joke was that Horie Yui wanted a spin-off novel with Hanekawa so Nisio wrote this. It's doesn't have anything to do with Monogatari though (I think), the character isn't Hanekawa.
 
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mugi said:
ne0tas said:
Does anyone know what this is? Was strolling in /a/ on a monogatari thread and found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYXusSjThKk

Seems like another Hanekawa arc? although I'm pretty sure it has to be something else since I thought they finished with her arcs


That's just a commercial for a recent Nisio books that was released. I guess the joke was that Horie Yui wanted a spin-off novel with Hanekawa so Nisio wrote this. It's doesn't have anything to do with Monogatari though (I think), the character isn't Hanekawa.


ah gotcha. Any clue as to if it might get animated?

edit: scratch that. do you know what it's called?
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Okitegami Kyoko no Bibouroku

people keep messing up the last word.
fixed.
 
Dec 31, 2014 4:40 PM

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That was pretty amazing yet again!

Ononoki getting the spotlight, I really enjoyed the part as they were walking to the shrine and what Araragi wanted as his ideal resolution. The crane game with Araragi taking his time just really added to the "doll" feeling. Ononoki interacting with others while doing her own thing was quite enjoyable!

With her staying in the Araragi household for a while. Can't say how much I've enjoyed seeing this!
 
Dec 31, 2014 4:44 PM

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Had some boring parts, but was ok after all, the confrontation with that dude at the shrine was nice.

Wonder what will they bring out next.
 
Dec 31, 2014 5:02 PM
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Are we never going to see Oshino Meme again?
 
Dec 31, 2014 5:08 PM

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That was good.
Dem interactions b/n Shinobu and Yotsugi xD
Wonder what's next...
 
Dec 31, 2014 5:28 PM
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umm, so, a question


otherwise, can't wait for me :3 i have to say tho the fanservice just got out of hand in this one, I don't like it, it feels cheap.
 
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kuropa said:
umm, so, a question


otherwise, can't wait for me :3 i have to say tho the fanservice just got out of hand in this one, I don't like it, it feels cheap.


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but a proper way to explain what he's saying is that he thinks that something fishy is going on and there might be someone pulling the strings behind what has happened so far in this town recently. He wants Oshino to be brought back as help who is seemingly uninvolved to fix whatever is happening because Oshino's thing is that he "keeps the balance".
 
Dec 31, 2014 6:06 PM

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That was a great watch, last anime of the year for me. I can't believe how much I missed Senjougahara, it was great seeing her again.

Man this feels like a big teaser for what to come :O

I NEEED MORE
 
Dec 31, 2014 6:19 PM

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It was over too fast

 
Dec 31, 2014 6:22 PM

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wait so shinobu bit him at the end? so does that mean he's a vampire now? damn. i was looking forward to him turning into full vampire too.
 
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pikeman1 said:
so... no announce for new season? :((

They already announced that all the novels will be adapted
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Dec 31, 2014 8:04 PM

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Once again this series never ceases to amaze me.

This was a great story about both Araragi and Ononoki. I may be mistaken but I feel like the real story is it took Ononoki, a doll, a monster to teach Araragi who was becoming a monster to be human. Also Ononoki now becoming his companion he doesn't need to use his vampire powers and in a since stay the way he is. Human. Great to see how much Araragi has matured stated by Ougi. Coming from Neko (black) to now you can really see that. Even with that being said he still the same perverted silly guy. Also did Senjougahara get cutter? Anyway another great series.

10/10. Also if I wrong about the monster thing let me know.
 
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mugi said:
kuropa said:
umm, so, a question


otherwise, can't wait for me :3 i have to say tho the fanservice just got out of hand in this one, I don't like it, it feels cheap.


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but a proper way to explain what he's saying is that he thinks that something fishy is going on and there might be someone pulling the strings behind what has happened so far in this town recently. He wants Oshino to be brought back as help who is seemingly uninvolved to fix whatever is happening because Oshino's thing is that he "keeps the balance".


ya that's what I got too, although, then, as araragi asked, why did he do it knowing full well there's something fishy or someone might be behind all of this, i guess maybe it will be revelead in future adaptations? it's just not still clear if he has that knowledge that he would still do the kidnapping, or did he do it just because he wanted araragi to turn full vampire and then kill him because he's a specialist in odities?
 
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Loved it, as usual. The themes explored weren't anything extravagant but I think that was necessary for us to properly look at Araragi's character. This was definitely a great way to get the ball rolling on the final stretch of his growth, and Ononoki was absolutely the perfect cast for the role. Only complaint is that I think knowing Kizu provides more insight into Araragi and what he's faced with in relation to what he's already gone through, so those who haven't read it may miss a tiny bit in the presentation, though that isn't necessarily what's important about this story.

I think the backgrounds and effects were better than ever on this one, particularly the scene outside the burnt down cram school before Gaen called Kagenui. Hopefully more to come in Final Season.

Well, I guess I'll read all of Koyomimonogatari that's translated for now since it's there, but I wish BT would pick up on Owari or at least some of SS.

Oh, and obligatory "Kizu fucking when!"
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So Tsukimonogatari concluded with Araragi having to find where Oshino is and having Ononoki stay with him for a while.

Senjougahara seems to be a little acting cute this episode - "Koyokoyo".






After finishing this it seems as though Tadatsuru is the only one who didnt do the headtilt.

What a good series to end the year, I hope 2015 will have a lot of decent anime.

Overall 8/10.
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Dec 31, 2014 9:40 PM

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Another fantastic story.I guess it's finally time for me to say that...Monogatari never disappoints me? It's been so many full/short seasons and i'm still watching it like under some spell asking for more.Relations of characters in this series are just as gold as always.I mean, look at Shinobu and Yotsugi playing in snow (lmao) or Koyokoyo and Tsukihi in bath - now some people say that this one is incest, but i just can't see it this way when i see idiot Aragi smiling like pedobear and Tsukihi doing weird poses xd
OST fit perfectly in some moments, there has been moments in MS when i thought that they could do better with OST, but they nailed it for most parts in Tsukimonogatari.Animation...right, i probably don't have to say anything about animation.
Oh, and seeing Senjougahara for that moment at the end after that whole awesome watch made a great start of 2015 for me.

In general, another solid 9/10 and i'm hoping to see more of MS in near/ future.
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Welp, Ononoki just beat around the bush haha.

Hitagi! Oh my gosh, I missed you big time! Dat ending too and it kinda feels odd about the new song from ClariS (mainly because of the new member but I'll get used to it soon). 8/10, please Shaft, make Kizu quick and the other ones after Tsuki.
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Yes. This was good stuff as always. It was a nice way to finish the year.
Can't wait for the adaptation of the rest of the Final Season!
 
Dec 31, 2014 11:03 PM

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Great show as expected from Shaft

Now we wait for them to animate the last of the Monogatari series and........Kizumonogatari
 
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wait so shinobu bit him at the end? so does that mean he's a vampire now? damn. i was looking forward to him turning into full vampire too.


Those are the bite marks from spring break, they were permanent. Hes had them the entire time, which is why he grows his hair out in Hana so he can hide the marks.
 
Jan 1, 2015 12:11 AM

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Missed this the first, but does Hanekawa have all white hair now?
 
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Great end to tie in the rest of final season. Once again Shaft comes up with amazing visuals and animations... the flash screens were different this time. Yep, that was the best way to spend the new year. Also every girl was practically mentioned in this one.
 
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8.5/10
I wanted to see more Senjougahara, but that animation was so great hardly a break to see it though with all the dialogue. Very strange way to end the arc
 
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Tadatsuru and Kagenui is cursed to never walk on ground ever. That's so deep and intimately astonishing.
The Fire Sisters and Kanbaru got folded inside that box and is asleep. Haha!

Hitagi showed up! Valentines day chocolate! No matter how many times I see that, I still can't get used to her assaults on Koyomi.
I hoped for Hanekawa to also be seen. Oh well.

That was so awesome! I hope the other parts get animated sooner than next year. I'm still waiting for it all, Shaft.

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Jan 1, 2015 3:39 AM

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God, that was glorious. Loved it. holy shit do i miss the Monogatari series.

Kagenui teasing Shinobu was gold, i loved it0 :3

a strong 9/10

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Jan 1, 2015 3:43 AM

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Great show which shows everything the franchise should be. Good way to finish the year of 2014 and hopefully start a new year filled with other great shows in 2015.
 
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Some delicious wincest vibes at the beginning and the ending for once, always shows the best of what Monogatari has to offer (which in itself is pretty ironic). I like how Tsuki focuses almost solely on more or less all the best girls of the entire series. That being said, as always, the story itself is very unimpressive so for the vast majority of it, it really fails to stay interesting, at least when it's actually being somewhat serious. Despite that though I'd still say this was probably the best entry in the Monogatari Series since Nise to me.

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Jan 1, 2015 4:33 AM

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Gosh Shaft. Making me fall more and more in love with Tsukihi.
Dat Senjougahara scene <3 Missed my waifu so much.
A good solid 8.5/10.
*still waiting for news surrounding Kizumonogatari*
 
Jan 1, 2015 6:52 AM

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Well damn that was great. Refreshing way to start 2015, wish it was longer... Enjoyed every second of it. 9/10


 
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Yeah, it was much much better than Hana.
9/10.
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