grave_robber said: Good job xanic and Miki, Miki please reveal any results you may have from watching people on previous nights. Thanks =) Santas, what do you have for us? confirmation that pyro's naughty I believe ^^ ... And I know it is just me being a douche, but I really don't like the way you talk down to us grave :/ I can think for myself and I don't need to be "encouraged" like this all the time. Or maybe I am being jealous because I am not the one who has been controlling the game... ![]() |
Zymf said: grave_robber said: Good job xanic and Miki, Miki please reveal any results you may have from watching people on previous nights. Thanks =) Santas, what do you have for us? confirmation that pyro's naughty I believe ^^ ... And I know it is just me being a douche, but I really don't like the way you talk down to us grave :/ I can think for myself and I don't need to be "encouraged" like this all the time. Or maybe I am being jealous because I am not the one who has been controlling the game... I didn't think I was talking down to anyone, but if I made you or anyone feel that way, I apologize! I will watch my tone next time. I've been trying to encourage everyone because it's hard to trust someone, let alone all the people this person claims are townies. We have all these santas with conflicting results, it's not easy for anyone. Plus, I'm usually the suspect, I don't assume that people believe or trust me. I was getting into my role, I mean isn't the elf supposed help Santa and lift his spirits if he's feeling down? Saying things like I believe in you santa... Again, sorry for giving orders instead of asking politely, that sounds condescending, you're right. ![]() Lulu ❤ |
x_at_home said: grave_robber said: Trust me on this, it's pyro. I never lose a bet, I won't lose the one I made 2 days ago. Do you know Pyro is mafia because of the process of elimination or did he slip up somewhere? His actions and his posts, it was either him or miki but miki was being a real townie. I tested pyro several times and he didn't react the way he would if he were townie. I will explain everything as soon as the phase ends (with links to posts from everyone that helped me suspect or clear them). I still waited for confirmation from santas but with some of them being roleblocked and having too little results to help us know which santa's which, I went back and read the thread, I was able to confirm my suspicions through logical deduction and process of elimination. ![]() Lulu ❤ |
Jackrito said: Well I found out I am naive cop so that was fun to know so I guess we are going with pyro than unless someone else has some evidence to say otherwise. Also roy for all you know you were the paranoid or insane santa. Thank you! I was gonna say that last night but if I keep saying things, I will be accused of controlling the flow of information and the game. XD ![]() Lulu ❤ |
x_at_home said: LucianRoy said: They're pretty cruel. Those mafia baddies. I have faith in grave. She'll figure it out. Well, it should be all figured out already^^. Grave is definitely Mvp, but it was funny how you made me feel bad for saving the doc. omg yes! I wanted to cry that day, we lucked out big time when host-sama decided not to kill anyone ;_; ![]() Lulu ❤ |
grave_robber said: Zymf said: grave_robber said: Good job xanic and Miki, Miki please reveal any results you may have from watching people on previous nights. Thanks =) Santas, what do you have for us? confirmation that pyro's naughty I believe ^^ ... And I know it is just me being a douche, but I really don't like the way you talk down to us grave :/ I can think for myself and I don't need to be "encouraged" like this all the time. Or maybe I am being jealous because I am not the one who has been controlling the game... I didn't think I was talking down to anyone, but if I made you or anyone feel that way, I apologize! I will watch my tone next time. I've been trying to encourage everyone because it's hard to trust someone, let alone all the people this person claims are townies. We have all these santas with conflicting results, it's not easy for anyone. Plus, I'm usually the suspect, I don't assume that people believe or trust me. I was getting into my role, I mean isn't the elf supposed help Santa and lift his spirits if he's feeling down? Saying things like I believe in you santa... Again, sorry for giving orders instead of asking politely, that sounds condescending, you're right. Compared to some people I have played with you are nice in comparsion but I can see why some people take it the wrong way. It is just the need of wanting to win because you think you are right and want to prove that. But for some people to actally do something it is sometimes necessary to take a more direct approuch that can be seen as agressive and annoy people but overall it is what is best for the town as long as no lines are crossed. ![]() |
Zymf said: Well.. you've done nothing wrong Grave_robber, it's just me taking it the wrong way >.> ANYWAYS! The game will probably end tonight :D But just to be safe: Who have you investigated Jackrito? I checked Karote and got nice so now I know I am naive which I thought I might be I never once had faith I was a sane cop ![]() |
Don't worry too much, grave. I don't think you were too forceful though after some thoughts I would not use bets and vows to prove something in-game. It gives room to backfire horribly one day. I love your detective work and your energetic playstyle, I didn't feel much pressure, though my opinion on it is probably biased, lol. Your ideas are always interesting, Zymf, but it makes people hesitate to just jump on that plan. Don't let it discourage you to follow that way though, I love them even if I might not follow them. ![]() |
Zymf said: grave_robber said: Good job xanic and Miki, Miki please reveal any results you may have from watching people on previous nights. Thanks =) Santas, what do you have for us? confirmation that pyro's naughty I believe ^^ ... And I know it is just me being a douche, but I really don't like the way you talk down to us grave :/ I can think for myself and I don't need to be "encouraged" like this all the time. Or maybe I am being jealous because I am not the one who has been controlling the game... The irony lol. ![]() |
The_Pyromaani said: hosts can end this any time when they want. I just dont get how grave can bust me out since i play same even if im bad or good guy XD Actually you don't, you're more cautious and reserved when you're mafia. You were the hardest to confirm, so I tried to judge you by your actions, posts and lack of action where it was needed, some things you did/said were too calculated to be pro-town. I dunno why, but somehow I was able to read everyone correctly in this game, this is 1st for me, I'm as surprised as you are. ^^ ![]() Lulu ❤ |
Jackrito said: Compared to some people I have played with you are nice in comparsion but I can see why some people take it the wrong way. It is just the need of wanting to win because you think you are right and want to prove that. But for some people to actally do something it is sometimes necessary to take a more direct approuch that can be seen as agressive and annoy people but overall it is what is best for the town as long as no lines are crossed. Ah, you read me like an open book, why can't I read you this well? ^^' Thank you Jack, I'm glad you can see what I was trying to do, sometimes I don't watch what I say and choose the wrong words and it just comes out wrong, it's something I'm always working on. I want to be like you, Suzune-chan & Bryn, people lsn to you and they don't feel like they're being ordered to do things. Great leaders you are <3 Zymf said: Well.. you've done nothing wrong Grave_robber, it's just me taking it the wrong way >.> I don't like listening to the "leader" either, I march to my own drum and makes me suspect XD I would have followed your plan if I were a santa, I thought it was great and I think you're good at leading. x_at_home said: Don't worry too much, grave. I don't think you were too forceful though after some thoughts I would not use bets and vows to prove something in-game. It gives room to backfire horribly one day. I love your detective work and your energetic playstyle, I didn't feel much pressure, though my opinion on it is probably biased, lol. Your ideas are always interesting, Zymf, but it makes people hesitate to just jump on that plan. Don't let it discourage you to follow that way though, I love them even if I might not follow them. Hai Hai! Will stop with the betting, I have an addictive personality, if I don't watch it, I'm gonna start betting every game =/ ![]() Modified by grave_robber, Jan 5, 2015 12:38 PM Lulu ❤ |
grave_robber said: The_Pyromaani said: hosts can end this any time when they want. I just dont get how grave can bust me out since i play same even if im bad or good guy XD Actually you don't, you're more cautious and reserved when you're mafia. You were the hardest to confirm, so I tried to judge you by your actions, posts and lack of action where it was needed, some things you did/said were too calculated to be pro-town. I dunno why, but somehow I was able to read everyone correctly in this game, this is 1st for me, I'm as surprised as you are. ^^ Interesting indeed. You can be right. I haven't seen much different in my play style XD I use as my advantage something what Suzune said in 1 game: You are a dangerous one since i can't read you. ^ Works as advantage but works also as disadvantage lol XD ![]() ~I am just one sadist who supports friends~ |
Indeed you are dangerous Pyro, certainly not a player I would ever underestimate. And you're naughty! Were you sad you didn't get to be Evil Mrs. Christmas? ![]() Lulu ❤ |
Karrote said: The_Pyromaani said: No, not at all. At least im not a trap XD You called? Karote's a sexy tramp! Oops, I mean trap =3 ![]() Lulu ❤ |
yeah, townies obviously won ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time I could've killed zurel day 2, but then somebody screwed me up. No particular names... ![]() mixer* titos* snacks* dip* |
LucianRoy said: xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time I could've killed zurel day 2, but then somebody screwed me up. No particular names... stop blaming me >.< ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time I could've killed zurel day 2, but then somebody screwed me up. No particular names... stop blaming me >.< The funny thing is, it wasn't you. ![]() mixer* titos* snacks* dip* |
LucianRoy said: xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time I could've killed zurel day 2, but then somebody screwed me up. No particular names... stop blaming me >.< The funny thing is, it wasn't you. I was kidding :P I got my opinion out there, and gave a very basic reasoning of why zurel was suspicious. I was satisfied with that. ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Why deny me this sweet victory byon-kun? I'm still waiting for game end T_T Fine, I guess I'll go do some staff work, so many pms to reply x_x ![]() Lulu ❤ |
[center]Night 4 grave_robber: Pyro is definitely the last mafia. Let's win guys! xanic: Sounds good ^_^ The town decides to lynch The_Pyromanni The_Pyromanni - Investigating Elf was lynched on Day 4 Townie Victory! Player list 1. LucianRoy - Insane Santa [color=green]2. DatNeonPanda - Paranoid Santa[/color] 3. x_at_home - lazy Santa 4. Zurel - Evil Santa 5. Karrote - Evil Mrs. Christmas 6. xanic - Mrs. Christmas 7. Smurphinator - Rudolph 8. grave_robber - Elf 9. Mikiuza - Watcher 10. Jackrito - Naive Santa 11. Zymf - Sane Santa 12. The_Pyromaani - Investigating Elf 13. Loveandhate91 - Snow Miser Night Actions: Night 1: Snow miser kills Sane Santa Mrs. Christmas nurses Sane Santa Reindeers is watching Naive Santa Elf is shooting the Snow Miser Naive cop is investigating Insane Santa Sane cop is investigating the Reindeers Lazy cop is investigating Rudolf Mrs. Evil Christmas sleeps with Lazy santa Investigating elf is investigating Insane cop Mafia(Mrs Evil christmas) kills Snow Miser Night 2: Mrs. Christmas nurses Elf Sane Santa investigates Elf Elf shoots the Lazy Cop Insane Cop investigates Rudolph the fool Reindeers is watching the Elf Naive cops investigates Sane Santa Lazy cop investigates Insane cop Mafia(Mrs. Evil Christmas) kill Smurph Invesitgating elf investigates Mrs. Christmas Mrs. Evil christmas sleeps with Insane santa Townie MVP: grave_robber for reading players like a book! She picked up hints and snuffed them out. And was also able to deduce the exact three mafia members. And she also shot a mafia member too. Mafia MVP: Karrote for manning the fort in their club. Made good decisions and didn't draw too much attention to himself. Final comments: This was a blast to co-host! Thanks to grave_robber for asking me to co-host and thanks to Byon for actually letting me co-host with him! This game was amazing and was definitely interesting to read, and it has definitely taught me a lot too. I hope you all had as much as I did co-hosting ^_^ [center] ![]() |
Yay!! We won!! GG everyone ^^ Thank you byon-kun & Soren for hosting this super fun game, I loved the 5 cops idea! Whaaa? I didn't kill the SK? My ego as vig's been crushed! I'm kidding, this is my 1st time being vig, I'm glad I achieved my goal of correctly using 1 of my shots and killing a bad guy :p But really, why didn't I kill him? I sent in my action before the mafia. Well, a long explanation post coming your way (might take time as I'm making another huge post in another game, bear with me ^^') I'd like to apologize to DatNeonPanda for overreacting when he went after in on day 1, I would also like to thank him for do so, it drew out almost all the bad guys. ![]() Modified by grave_robber, Jan 7, 2015 1:52 AM Lulu ❤ |
Man, now I have to reveal my day 1 strategy and find a new one... Ah well, here goes: Grave said: 1. Make most players feel at ease by asking questions about roles, rules and other helpful information, making jokes and getting to know players. 2. Vote for someone who will not get mad about it or try to kill/lynch you later on based on this vote. 2.1. Vote for Karrote or Jackrito if present in game, they are friends and will not take it personally. 2.2. Make sure to explain the reasons behind your vote to keep all players at ease and avoid lynch trains Unfortunately, this point has to be changed now since jack has been targeted by other players for day 1 lynches repeatedly and karrote almost got lynched by this strategy in a game we're playing now. 3. Watch out for "red flags". red flags are interesting posts by players that could mean they're townies or bad guys, they help me get a read on these players 4. Change vote if necessary or if a possible target is found. The theory behind this strategy is that day 1 is taken as a chance to relax and get to know the game mechanics, this puts people at ease. When people get comfortable, they make mistakes. Mistakes are almost always made by all parties on day 1. point #4 occurs if others or myself create a situation when too many red flags go up & 1 or more people become "too suspicious". ------------------------------------------ Now unto the actual hints & "red flags": Now there were other posts that were "interesting" by these players but not enough to raise red flags [*]Day 1 1. Zymf suggests all santas come forward Interesting strategy! But only a super brave townie or a reckless mafioso would do it 2. Smurphinator says she thought an important role detail for the cops was a typo Now I understand general lack of interest by players about most roles but not about the most important town roles (cop, doc, vig). Tbh, I wasn't sure it was a detail or a typo either. So I asked, that's what a real townie does, they would wanna know this because this is important and could cost us the game. I remove my vote under the claim of vague lynch rules to ease smurph's tension (it is important for me to keep players relaxed and open so they'd slip up). 3 zymf makes 2 excellent posts on how to find santas: here & here. He's an expert player, is he trying to draw them out or is he a townie, leaning towards townie now. 4. Lucian's first post is a message to vig why make your 1st post about the vig and what they should do when you're the guy who takes command and starts lynches? I agreed with him at that point since no real suspects had been found 5. Panda uses decent logic & accuses me of being naughty. The theory behind is accusation ir quite right but this kind of implementation kills way more townies than mafia, I'm obviously upset at being the #1 suspect yet again, but I see an opportunity to create a juicy lynch to attract baddies 6. L&H votes for me based on my username and doesn't contribute much else. Now xanic usually joins lynches if he likes the reason so I understand his vote but L&H voting for someone without knowing why they're being voted for or pretending that he doesn't know is just wrong and anti-town 7. x_at_home makes more than 1 good townie posts, this being a nice example he actually cares about the results of the lynch and game mechanics 8. blatant lie by pyro about his behavior up until this point, pyro had been goofing like he does sometimes, some posts were "off" but not red flags, he knows how I play day 1, he would question panda's logic or motives or at least defend me if he was townie, he has done so with others when he was pro=town, why not now? Happy to see me die? I make a self preservation move which is usually perceived as scummy) to get baddies to join in on the fun by tying the votes & then I Invite them to come out & play 9. Zurel accepts my offer this one registered on day 2 or night 2, I was just desperate to survive at that particular moments 10. Karrote ninjas in a vote when I'm not looking Didn't say much all day but voted to save me? Karrote avoids messy day 1 lynches, and this is super messy, he's trying to gain my trust/gratitude so I won't suspect him, he becomes a suspect a few hours later Now I see the total vote count and realize karrote voted right before I did and Panda's about to die if I don't unvote, I decide to wait a minute or 2 to see if either of them unvotes (we agreed to tie the votes, not lynch panda, a good townie would stick to the deal because they wouldn't wanna mislynch is a game with such small numbers). I refresh the page to unvote & it's too late, I had sacrificed Panda who after our discussion convinced me he was pro-town (i'm feeling pretty crappy about messing up my 1st day in this game and possibly dooming the town). [*]Night 1 1. Zurel doesn't react to panda's death and is only concerned about the length of night phases We agreed to tie the votes, the way things played out, it seemed like I added my vote just to kill panda, I look super scummy right now, you're not even gonna comment on that? If you're so worried about your night action, you can send it now and change it later 2. I test pyro for the 1st time and he gives a bad answer He also didn't care or react to panda's death 3. Smurph sneaks in an untrue statement about me reacting the way I did when being mafia I spot the sneaky little post and respond here, she drops it, why? if you're really convinced I'm scum, why back off? I was scummy as hell @ that point, so she's afraid I would kill her, is it because she's townie or 3rd party? 4. Miki asks who he would kills if he were mafia Is he trying to give the doc possible targets, is he trying to get a list of the best players so he can kill them, or is he pretending to be a good player who's helping out the doctor/is the doctor. Flag raised [*]Day 2 1. Pyro makes an excellent post 2. Lucian starts to win me over, he does it again here 3. xanic's starting to look like a townie to me 4. Zuu's looking more suspicious Why would you believe my claims? this is our 2nd game together and you supposedly don't know my alignment or role in either 5. Xanic hints @ his role I start thinking that I'm imagining hints, but decided to flag it 6. Zuu accuses xanic and brings up his old trolling days why does she wanna lynch him so bad? simply to sacrifice him and gain trust? she already seems townie to most of us... Did the mafia catch the hint or investigate him? He's looking more like a townie to me 7. Miki hints @ his role Is he a bad guy preparing to claim santa? or a townie (santa/other), flag raised I try to create false hints about xanic's role by talking about his eyes ( fake watcher role hints), I don't know if the mafia picked up on it and believe me or checked him or if they thought I was just messing around. (I partly was just goofing off) 8. Smurph makes a careless post where she says she doesn't believe me and that karrote was the last to vote for panda I was the last to vote, I had a minute or 2 to unvote or change it, if she doesn't believe I'm the vig, why doesn't she look more carefully into my actions? because she's not townie, she doesn't care if I'm mafia or not, she has a different goal, she's the jester. I decide to kill her that night and mask my suspicions 9. Pyro makes an interesting choice is he a good townie or is he trying to throw off suspicion because both miki & I named him as a suspect [*]Night 2 1. Karrote gives me confirmation of my suspicions By now several players have voiced their suspects @ Miki's request, I think Miki is town but not sure about his role, some names appear on most lists(Pyro, karrote & Zurel) Lucian manages to confuse me about who the jester might be so I decide to confuse the mafia by going back and forth with my action. I actually did send actions then cancel them, just to mess with everyone including byon-kun (I can't miss a chance to confuse everyone :p) [*]Day 3 1. I test pyro one more time & he doesn't defend himself but instead points @ karote. 2. Karrote claims and says x is innocent By now I'm sure karrote is fake claiming but he chose a townie so that x would trust him and of course the rest of us - With the jester gone, I get tired of the santas being shocked so I decide to start my plan to take down the mafia (which originally was to not let pyro know I was on to him, karote knew I was onto him, I was going after zuu 1st because she was suspected by most so I figured it would be easier to get everyone to vote for her). - I try to tell miki I know his role (we see eye to eye) and wait for confirmation that comes in the form of clearing zymf. How would miki clear zymf if he's santa, he can't, what other townie role could clear him? the watcher, confirmation! Mafia had raised too many flags in my head by now, I'm convinced of what I know - it's night (3 AM just like it is now =D) and I decide to stop messing around and not let confusion take over the town so I tell the everyone who the fake santa is 3. Miki tests/challenges pyro to protect his role from being fake claimed (I knew you were the real watcher ^^) As you can see, pyro can't claim because he can't fake the results, he can't claim santa, no one would believe him anymore, I made sure to tell everyone I knew who the doctor was and they better not claim that role so he knew better than to fake claim doc. This was the final confirmation I needed on pyro The rest you know, I lsn to zymf and come forward with my true list of suspects and then announce my plan and ask everyone to trust me. ![]() Lulu ❤ |
Soren333 said: Holy shitballs. Indeed, so many red flags went up in my head this game. I was in the zone or sth XD ![]() Lulu ❤ |
Thanks everybody! ^^ I gotta get some sleep, and find me a new day 1 strategy. Also, karrote we need to change, we read each other too well now, it's not even funny O_O Good night! ![]() Lulu ❤ |
I cannot believe grave got my hint ;_; haha ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Also, holy shit. grave understands my playstyle as well ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
kingxanic said: Also, holy shit. grave understands my playstyle as well Grave tuned into your wavelength in the zombie mafia v1 She's learning your patterns now. This is not a bad thing (unless we find ourselves on different teams that is XD) ![]() Modified by grave_robber, Jan 7, 2015 1:54 AM Lulu ❤ |
grave_robber said: kingxanic said: Also, holy shit. grave understands my playstyle as well Grave tuned into your wavelength in the zombie mafia v1 She's learning your patterns now. This is not a bad thing (unless we find ourselves on different teams that is XD) "xanic usually votes if he likes the reason" you didn't say if it was a good reason. Only I had to like it xD ![]() "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
LucianRoy said: xanic said: LucianRoy said: xanic said: yeah, townies obviously won Ya never know. Nobody believed me when I voted on zurel >.< the first time I could've killed zurel day 2, but then somebody screwed me up. No particular names... Who was it? ![]() Lulu ❤ |