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Dec 27, 2014 8:22 AM

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BloodRequiem said:
Fucking ruined This Illusion with Lisa's shitty singing.


Does she do the whole wailing thing again? It's not an Aniplex sponsored production unless they manage to cram LiSA in their somewhere in any case.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:22 AM
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RinArcher said:

Probably a good idea.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:23 AM

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VanishingKira said:
I meant is that this & deen's version were basically the same quality wise,not that they were the same as in exactly alike,seeing as how they were obviously different in some sense since they were different routes after all.

Should I even go into how different the characters are even before the route split?
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:24 AM

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Gonna watch that PV everyday until the next episode ;_; Dedication-su.
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Dec 27, 2014 8:25 AM

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HentaiPriest said:
VanishingKira said:
I meant is that this & deen's version were basically the same quality wise,not that they were the same as in exactly alike,seeing as how they were obviously different in some sense since they were different routes after all.

Should I even go into how different the characters are even before the route split?


No you shouldn't, just leave em be. Who cares.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:27 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
For the X-th time! It's THIS ILLUSION and NOT DISILLUSION!

Yes, yes, I know the japanese pronounce both the same, but I clearly saw in BIG LETTERs the words "THIS ILLUSION"!

I will keep using DISILLUSION to annoy you.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:27 AM

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VanishingKira said:
I meant is that this & deen's version were basically the same quality wise,not that they were the same as in exactly alike,seeing as how they were obviously different in some sense since they were different routes after all.
I would like to hear more on that tbh.

I remember you said in prologue thread that you already dislike the characters because of DEEN version. So without context all I can get from your posts is that you didn't even give them a chance in this version.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:27 AM

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fateoffate said:
Grey-Zone said:
For the X-th time! It's THIS ILLUSION and NOT DISILLUSION!

Yes, yes, I know the japanese pronounce both the same, but I clearly saw in BIG LETTERs the words "THIS ILLUSION"!

I will keep using DISILLUSION to annoy you.


I'm already Disillusioned by Ufotable when they made this piece of shit.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:28 AM

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Disillusion remix is great. I want it on my mp3 player right now.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:28 AM
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CookingPriest said:

Dat reference

They're different glasses though, if anything it'd be a reference to the scene in HF (and maybe Fate too, can't recall exactly) where she wore like glasses.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:28 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Disillusion remix is great. I want it on my mp3 player right now.


Star Child: "SO BE IT"!
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:30 AM

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I hope they use DISILLUSION for the 2nd season.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:33 AM

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BloodRequiem said:
fateoffate said:

I will keep using DISILLUSION to annoy you.


I'm already Disillusioned by Ufotable when they made this piece of shit.

Unlimited Budget Works? More like Unlimited CG Works.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:33 AM

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When is S2 scheduled?


 
Dec 27, 2014 8:33 AM

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kei78 said:
When is S2?

April.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:34 AM

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fateoffate said:
I hope they use DISILLUSION for the 2nd season.





Clearly DEEN anime is SIMILAR to what ufotable does, see? Even the theme song is the same!
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:34 AM

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kei78 said:
When is S2 scheduled?


april
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:34 AM
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fateoffate said:
I hope they use DISILLUSION for the 2nd season.

Apparently it's gonna be OP for next season.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:36 AM

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antonn said:
BloodRequiem said:


I'm already Disillusioned by Ufotable when they made this piece of shit.

Unlimited Budget Works? More like Unlimited CG Works.


Extremely detailed sandwiches and taiyaki.

>CGI gems
>CGI spooky scary skeletons
>Laser beam arrows
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:37 AM

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D:

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WANT IT RIGHT NOW!!!
Need to schedule a marathon in March


 
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found a LQ version of the new THIS ILLUSION:

 
Dec 27, 2014 8:39 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
found a LQ version of the new THIS ILLUSION:



That glorious BD quality.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:40 AM

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antonn said:

I'm already Disillusioned by Ufotable when they made this piece of shit.

Unlimited Budget Works? More like Unlimited CG Works.[/quote]

This version really does make a lot of use of CGI for sure, especially for fight sequences and special effects. I'd say it might even be above average for current series from what I've seen of it. You can even see the Unlimited CG Works in the season 2 PV a few pages back.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:41 AM
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HentaiPriest said:
VanishingKira said:
I meant is that this & deen's version were basically the same quality wise,not that they were the same as in exactly alike,seeing as how they were obviously different in some sense since they were different routes after all.

Should I even go into how different the characters are even before the route split?


Do not. It is not possible to change VanishingKira's opinion. The fact that he admitted that it was merely an opinion and not the objective truth makes it clear that there is nothing to argue about :)

One's opinion is based on one's own perspective and knowledge. Since your knowledge in regards to literature and Fate/Stay Night's story is on a different level compared to him, it is not possible to change his opinion. He cannot understand you ideas just as you cannot understand his way of thinking. When it comes to subjective controversies, the most you can do is influence or override the other opinions. These are always based on oneself, which are unlike objective truths.

Of course, his statement pertaining to the quality of the story-telling of F/SN can be interpreted as either objectively or subjectively. It becomes a problem when one twists an opinion into an absolute fact. The flaw lies in VanishingKira's tone of speech and lexical choices. Speaking in absolute helped to create tension and his clarification about his statement being an opinion also furthers the problem. The contradiction between his statement's wording and its pragmatic meaning creates a form of hypocrisy which is annoying to see.

tl;dr - Just don't bother. Let people be as long as they don't try to force it down other people's throat. Clearing up their misconceptions towards the show is akin to teaching a cockroach to talk.

I'm going to sleep and waking up to watch the subbed version. I honestly hope that there will be no shitfest for today. Everybody be happy and let's all watch the episode (whether you enjoy it or not, let's walk away with a smile and not snot coming out of your nose because someone doesn't agree with you).
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:43 AM

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I actually like LISA's version of disillusion the most so far. I just like LISA's songs overall. Such a beautiful voice.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:43 AM
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BloodRequiem said:

That glorious BD quality.

I think listening to that hurt my ears, thanks Grey-Zone. >.>
No really, sounds kinda terrible recorded like that.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:45 AM

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Samhiuy said:
I'm going to sleep and waking up to watch the subbed version. I honestly hope that there will be no shitfest for today. Everybody be happy and let's all watch the episode (whether you enjoy it or not, let's walk away with a smile and not snot coming out of your nose because someone doesn't agree with you).
Well, This Illusion guaranteed VN readers won't complain much.
 
 
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As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
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So does this mean HS is going to be delayed too, then? ~.~
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:49 AM

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I didn't like her singing but even then it was still a good addition to the series.

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I actually like LISA's version of disillusion the most so far. I just like LISA's songs overall. Such a beautiful voice.
It takes one "as you want it" ep for you to like everything.lol.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:50 AM

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Dec 27, 2014 8:51 AM

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HentaiPriest said:
I didn't like her singing but even then it was still a good addition to the series.

CookingPriest said:
I actually like LISA's version of disillusion the most so far. I just like LISA's songs overall. Such a beautiful voice.
It takes one "as you want it" ep for you to like everything.lol.
Yo yo yo yo yo...

Wtf are you doing.

Don't poke the CG.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:54 AM
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HentaiPriest said:
I didn't like her singing but even then it was still a good addition to the series.

CookingPriest said:
I actually like LISA's version of disillusion the most so far. I just like LISA's songs overall. Such a beautiful voice.
It takes one "as you want it" ep for you to like everything.lol.

Well, he didn't change his score.
 
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Insertanamehere said:
BloodRequiem said:

That glorious BD quality.

I think listening to that hurt my ears, thanks Grey-Zone. >.>
No really, sounds kinda terrible recorded like that.


You are welcome!



I let the LQ of this illusion by LiSA and Disillusion run side by side and I noticed: LiSA's voice has more power behind her voice, IMO. Can't wait to listen to the full HQ version.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:55 AM

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Bye Shirou.. he's on his own now. Time to wait the entire winter season QQ

Also Shirou Potter!

 
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Insertanamehere said:
HentaiPriest said:
I didn't like her singing but even then it was still a good addition to the series.

It takes one "as you want it" ep for you to like everything.lol.

Well, he didn't change his score.
I mean in the same ep.
 
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Ahh so THAT is the reason why people said something about "Shirou Potter". Didn't notice until now.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:57 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
Ahh so THAT is the reason why people said something about "Shirou Potter". Didn't notice until now.


He looked like Shiki and Aoko's kid to me.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:58 AM

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BloodRequiem said:
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Ahh so THAT is the reason why people said something about "Shirou Potter". Didn't notice until now.


He looked like Shiki and Aoko's kid to me.

Would Shiki or Aoko be the futa?
 
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BloodRequiem said:
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Ahh so THAT is the reason why people said something about "Shirou Potter". Didn't notice until now.


He looked like Shiki and Aoko's kid to me.
He looked like Mikiya if he dyed his hair...
 
Dec 27, 2014 8:59 AM
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BloodRequiem said:
Grey-Zone said:
Ahh so THAT is the reason why people said something about "Shirou Potter". Didn't notice until now.


He looked like Shiki and Aoko's kid to me.

Aoko's hair is genetically brown though.
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He looked like Shiki and Aoko's kid to me.

Would Shiki or Aoko be the futa?

I think he meant Tohno.

Though I guess you could say he looks like Ryougi's and Enjou Tomoe's kid or something. Or just Enjou Tomoe.
 
Dec 27, 2014 9:06 AM

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i would prefer version from 2010 to LISA version


 
Dec 27, 2014 9:08 AM

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It seems like BloodRequiem wrote a review for UBW...

Such sarcasm, much Urobuchi, very Zero.
"Just because I’ve gotten weaker, it doesn’t mean that you got stronger, right?" - Accelerator
 
Dec 27, 2014 9:14 AM

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I think I said before that waiting for the second cour would be true pain and that PV at the end just confirmed it for me.

Anyway, that episode was THIS ILLUSION/10, caught me off guard with that one, good one ufo.
Not sure how I feel about them changing the whole location of the Rule Breaker scene, though I can't say I entirely dislike it at least, and Archer blasting the whole thing apart was nice for sure.
Really liked that added scene with Taiga in the cemetery, and of course the Kirei one fighting in the church.
Not sure I can comment on everything right now since there's lots of things to stomach still, but overall I believe I'm content with the finale.

And now the waiting game begins anew.
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another.
 
Dec 27, 2014 9:15 AM

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If LiSA's version is going to be the 2nd OP, Awesome.I'm tired of hearing typical Kalafina and a new Disillusion would be nice
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Noruhma said:
I think I said before that waiting for the second cour would be true pain and that PV at the end just confirmed it for me.

Anyway, that episode was THIS ILLUSION/10, caught me off guard with that one, good one ufo.
Not sure how I feel about them changing the whole location of the Rule Breaker scene, though I can't say I entirely dislike it at least, and Archer blasting the whole thing apart was nice for sure.
Really liked that added scene with Taiga in the cemetery, and of course the Kirei one fighting in the church.
Not sure I can comment on everything right now since there's lots of things to stomach still, but overall I believe I'm content with the finale.

And now the waiting game begins anew.


Hahaha 1:1 words out of my mouth.

Good now I don't have to comment.
 
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WrongPriest said:
Noruhma said:
I think I said before that waiting for the second cour would be true pain and that PV at the end just confirmed it for me.

Anyway, that episode was THIS ILLUSION/10, caught me off guard with that one, good one ufo.
Not sure how I feel about them changing the whole location of the Rule Breaker scene, though I can't say I entirely dislike it at least, and Archer blasting the whole thing apart was nice for sure.
Really liked that added scene with Taiga in the cemetery, and of course the Kirei one fighting in the church.
Not sure I can comment on everything right now since there's lots of things to stomach still, but overall I believe I'm content with the finale.

And now the waiting game begins anew.


Hahaha 1:1 words out of my mouth.

Good now I don't have to comment.
You did.
 
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HentaiPriest said:
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Hahaha 1:1 words out of my mouth.

Good now I don't have to comment.
You did.


He knows...

 
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DAT PV!!! Is it April yet D:
 
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