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| That was unexpected! Poor Leon! Didn't think all of that would happen to him... and... did he just kill himself at the end there? Or at least, attempt to? Oh God. The music is beautiful as always. Easily one of my favorite soundtracks. |
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| Why is Alfonso is so perfect all the time? I think Mendoza's death was pretty fitting; the only thing that made him powerful was his Makai Gate anyways. |
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| Wow, that was unexpected... Best episode so far. |
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| We didn't actually see Mendoza die. We saw him get eaten by a horror (which he controls), then we saw the horror get killed. A villain is never dead unless you see the body, and even that isn't always good enough! |
| Leon totally deserved it. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: ...they should have shown Leon overcoming his rage not lose his armor. No... I dislike the usual anime cliches where a young, inexperienced hero does an ass-pull and inexplicably overcomes his enemy through sheer force of will. This twist will do fine. This show has a grim, dark world and a story that is not all sunshine and roses is true to the setting. Leon has not grown enough to overcome his inner demons and remains the cynical, self-absorbed man-child he was at the start. At least Alfonso had a purpose to fight for- to protect the people. What does Leon have to fight for? Dragon_Slayer_X said: Not that i hate Alfonso, but the Prince lived in ignorance for most of his life while Leon had to stay hidden and carry around the sorrow and hatred and his playboy father didn't help much. Thats precisely the problem. Leon nursed his sorrow and hatred and refused to let go. Thats why he is unfit to wear the armor. The Knights are meant to protect, not to seek blood and revenge. Leon is a younger version of Bernardo. And his father did try to help Leon, but Leon was too stubborn to accept it. Rewatch ep 4 again. See how his dad told Leon he would take care of the horror because Leon couldnt kill a child? See how Leon brushed his dad off? And how Leon hesitated when the horror took on the face of a child? Leon got away cheap that time, because the horror was too stupid to keep wearing the child's face and got cut down. You're missing a lot of the subtleties in this show. |
| Oh, phew. For a moment I thought that was the end of S1, but it's only halfway through. I'm really liking this show, though the transfer of the armor felt abrupt and the title of Golden Knight felt to me like it lost some importance in doing so... Alfonso activated it with no problems at all. However, seeing the generally calm and collected Leon sudden despair and fail at a crucial time was very nice, and also when he was rejected by his Alfonso and his father as the Golden Knight. Moreso, the end where he stands on the edge of a valley, arms spread, and falls into the abyss. Leon destroying the town was sad to watch though. He had always been a caring guy, going out of his way to help people. At heart he's good, but he just utterly failed. :( Alfonso was given the spotlight this episode. He completely upstaged Leon, defeated Mendoza (kind of), returned as the prince, and also lost his mother. However, I feel like the series will give us another twist; perhaps where Leon will redeem himself and Alfonso will be the one to fall into misguided intentions and become the new antagonist in the future. Yet I'd also like for a happy ending where the two become good friends again. I'm really curious to see where this show endings up. The goal of defeating Mendoza is already accomplished 12/24 episodes in, and there is a second season coming. Hopefully we'll be exploring more of the Makai Knights aside from our main cast. That would be interesting. |
MirorinDec 21, 2014 12:23 AM
| Darn! Now this I gotta see! Next episode: "The Return of the Iron Cheff (Knight)" |
| Byt the way, I think it's understandable that Alfonso was so harsh with Leon - seeing the golden knight, he thought to be a savior, wreak detruction, must be a shock to him. Also I agree with those, who say that it's good to see a teenage hero fail miserably - that's what teens often do, due to inexperience, after all. I can't imagine any of the young knights falling to darkness, though. Both of them were shown to be inherently good guys. |
| PREVIEW: Those are teh voice actors! Why they're there? I have no idea. Wow, intense ep. The animation picked up a bit too. Poor poor Leon. I'm surprised. A similar thing happened in Season 1 of live TV GARO, but it was a consequence connected to the armor. Even after Herman's friend turned, he still remained a knight. What will you do Leon? |
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| That great episode, I felt frustrated by Leon have lost everything, in an episode everything he built fell apart, already Alfonso became the hero, was not the outcome I wanted, but quite surprised me I thought this would be the last episode, but it seems that will continue, now I'm more curious to follow the development .. |
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| Its not over yet?.. Im not stickin around for a second season. |
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| I'm surprised how many people defended leon, yes what happened to him is tragic, he was a knight destined to save the world from evil only to lose everything he had built up within a single moment, but whats more tragic is the hundreds to thousands of innocent lives that died because of his carelessness and being consumed by his emotions that he was supposed to control. Someone said it before but he is nothing more than a younger bernardo, a knight who failed in his sole duty of protecting the weak and was consumed by his own hatred and selfishness only to pay the price for it. its harsh, but completely warranted, really the amount of small details this single episode had is pretty overwhelming, this may be in my top 3 favorite episodes of the season |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| And looks like Alfonso hijacked Leon's main character role. I really pity Leon. I really do. Seeing him begging Alfonso for his armor back is so pitiful. He basically lost everything, but that's the consequence for breaking one of Makai Knight's code of honor. Keep fighting Leon! |
| that preview got me really hungry! |
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| What the? This anime show suddenly become one of the best this season! This episode was so powerful & I really liked the plot twist! Well done! Really well done indeed! To be honest, I do not mind Alfonso become Garo. He is more honorable & composed(and of course better character overall on every aspect) person than Leon. He definitely will be a better Garo(he already has actually). As for Mendoza, I do not think he is dead. I am sure of it. Mark my word. |
| I like anime. |
| Episode from the strong impact, very nice! Happy to have followed immediately this anime, it deserves as much history, narrative and for the good work done by the study Map. Narration late season pretty tough and engaging, a final good that so many good wishes. Happy that they are going to continue the story with a 2nd season. For now, I transform my vote from 6/10 to 8/10! |
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| I felt pity for Leon too, but I still think that stripping him off his golden armor is just. He did screw up major time and in a very crucial point. As someone already mentioned it on this thread, Leon had time to learn how to control his emotions, he had warnings. He was constantly reminded that he should be careful of these spiteful feelings he has and that he NEEDS to control them in order to fill his role properly. He also got the ring that was supposed to help him - well, the conclusion is that he should have been prepared. Leon kept training and getting stronger, but his motivation was purely revenge. Alfonso on other hand, wanted to get better for the sake of his people and during all his training he had this in his mind. Also let me mention something - if Alfonso didnt say to defeat Mendoza first and just went along with Leon's proposition and rescued his mother, they would had saved her. Practically Alfonso made a personal sacrifice by choosing his duty over his own mother. Leon on other hand shoved his duty aside and acted on his negative feelings, making him an egoist. That's why he's not fitted to be the Golden Knight, at least for now. As much as I wanted Leon to be awesome and badass, in the end he was indeed inexperienced, young and obsessed. Even though Alfonso seems like the perfect boy which is kinda suspicious, I was happy to see his development. It was a great contrast of how Leon actually is and how he is supposed to be, actually. I kinda have the feeling that Alfonso will be the one who will come in Bernardo's shoes at some point (because they were both feeling betrayed - Bernardo by humans in general, wavering and questioning his goals of protecting even though he was perfect in duty, and Alfonso by the Golden Knight, since he was supposed to protect people instead of destroying a whole village in flames). I guess the perfect boys gone wrong parallel would be quite possible. I don't mind seeing Leon as a dark knight tho. That would be really nice and quite surprising as a plot. We need some development from German Luis tho. For now he's still some comedy relief horny dad which is kinda saddening. He had too few "serious" moments, imo. Let's hope for the best in the second season. |
| Great episode ! Leon goes mad after seeing his mother die. This cliffhanger is crazy (o.O). But the preview is totally WTF >< |
| Totally deserved to lose his armor, he failed his duty outright. This episode felt like a finale. Maybe it originally was meant to be. |
| Interesting episode, however, to me, the pretext for Leon's anger or rage and revenge, is quite stupid. I don't think anyone can really be attached to someone they never met before, even if they're your parent. They're a stranger to you, and, frankly, I don't think you'll go berserk mode for someone you don't know. I'd understand if Leon had been living with his mother(unconditional love) and then see her unjustly put on a stake, to seek revenge, but, this story, won't work for me. On the other hand, Alfonso acted like a leader; instead of being selfish, he acted on the principle on the need of the many outweigh the need of the few(i.e. his mother). It shows that he's mature enough to not fall prey to his feelings. The death of Mendoza was anticlimactic, so, I think he's alive, but I'd rather see him staying dead. I also hope Leon dies, but, I don't think that such thing will happen, and, Ema, or whatever was her name, will probably save him(at least that's my take on it). |
ourielDec 24, 2014 3:30 AM
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ouriel said: leon definitely wont die here, 1 of 2 things are going to happen, either hes going to succumb to becomming a horror/ inherit the dark amor, or hes going to go on the path of redemption and become a more level headed character as he goes through trials to redeem himself.Interesting episode, however, to me, the pretext for Leon's anger or rage and revenge, is quite stupid. I don't think anyone can really be attached to someone they never met before, even if they're your parent. They're a stranger to you, and, frankly, I don't think you'll go berserk mode for someone you don't know. I'd understand if Leon had been living with his mother(unconditional love) and then see her unjustly put on a stake, to seek revenge, but, this story, won't work for me. On the other hand, Alfonso acted like a leader; instead of being selfish, he acted on the principle on the need of the many outweigh the need of the few(i.e. his mother). It shows that he's mature enough to not fall prey to his feelings. The death of Mendoza was anticlimactic, so, I think he's alive, but I'd rather see him staying dead. I also hope Leon dies, but, I don't think that such thing will happen, and, Ema, or whatever was her name, will probably save him(at least that's my take on it). |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: leon definitely wont die here, 1 of 2 things are going to happen, either hes going to succumb to becomming a horror/ inherit the dark amor, or hes going to go on the path of redemption and become a more level headed character as he goes through trials to redeem himself. Well, I said I hope he dies, but, I don't see that happening, and, I suspect he will probably take the route of being a level-headed character. :) |
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| Well, Alphonso stole the show by far.. Eventually, he adorns the Gold Knight armor and tbh, it actually suits him rather than Leon.. Lel.. Fucking Leon had to snap at just the wrong moment :/. Zaruba was in the hands of Herman.. so, I think it will not go to Alphonso.. He is already way more powerful even without the Zaruba. I probably think that Mendoza is still alive. I mean, it was not even shown clearly that he had got eaten up by that horror. I think.. as long as Octavia is alive, there is a high chance that Mendoza is alive too. Ema's motives are still unknown though. |
| Well, Leon managed to remain an emo, PoS loser right to the end. He has managed to display a grand total sum of zero character development in twelve episodes. Usually the only characters that are so blinded by hatred and revenge are boring one-note villains. |
| Looks like some sort of live action guest speaking episode aired today instead of a new episode. |
Stark700Dec 26, 2014 10:36 AM
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so i dont think this is any real confirmation but this promotional art kind of feeds my theory about where this may be going Leon looking down whilst having a red aura while alfonso looks up in a blue aura, not set in stone but i do feel like its somewhat likley leon is gonna go down the path of darkness and become an antagonist while alfonso takes up the main character slot. That said leon taking a path of redemption would also be a interesting story to see unfold, but i think the former would be much more interesting |
JizzyHitlerDec 26, 2014 8:12 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I doubt mendoza died tbh lol. And what the heck was that preview? I guess it was so they dont spoil anything but holy crap it made me laugh. Leon was one of those characters that have the edge and just all talk and can't do anything. I'm glad he lost his Garo armor. |
 "If I don't have to do it, I won't. If I have to do it, I'll make it quick." -Oreki Houtarou |
| @JizzyHitler Thanks for the promo art. I agree that with this Leon's downfall to becoming an antagonist is more likely. Unlike on the initial promo art for the first 12 eps, Garo on that pic is Alphonso's and not Leon's. It's also interesting that Herman is at Alphonso's side instead of Leon's. It seem to mean that he is going to support Alphonso now, while Ema will probably be helping Leon. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
My prediction came true. It will be now similar to live action garo. Looks like Leon met his reason to live(girl). Leon changed his coat from black to white so he changed. And like someone said red aura and white coat are characteristic signs of Garo master. Live action garo has that kind of coat.  Also white coat from live action garo has the same symbol as Leons white coat(his back). |
darkstar123Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM
| I think Alfonso is beginning to walk the wrong path after this while Leon taking a path of redemption. While It is true that Leon destroyed the city but he did not do it intentionally. On the other hand, Alfonso, he made a decision and that decision led to his mother dying. It is certainly not his fault that his mother died but he does have responsibility in that because he chose not to save his mother first while bullshitting about duty. As a character, Alfonso is very lack of warmth feeling. |
 "A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
| Suddenly, angst. My god, I love (and hate at the same time) angst so much. Yes please, give me more. I'm tired of the typical hero dramas, break characters before they ever get to be good. Make them suffer. Make them fuck up. Sometimes they'll fail too much and won't be able to get back. This i like uwu I absolutely loved the development Leon got(or will get) - there's SO MUCH potential there. Definitely my favorite character in the anime, and one of the most memorable this season :D |
| Great episode without the cliche everyone's happy ending. I really like this series! |
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darkstar123 said: thats a badass coat*snip* |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Man, this kind of episode is something I'd expect from a season finale and it's only halfway. And isn't there another 24 episode season after this too? Wow, I can't even imagine where they plan to go from here. I have to admit Garo has been my hidden gem choice of the season. On a somewhat unrelated note, I can't stop listening to the OP now. GAAAAROOOO! GA-RO!!!! |
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| Hmm that felt like a pretty good end to me. Why did they choose to make this 2-course and/or even another season? Could have ended those bad CGI armors right here. Seriously. That would have been a good point to end it. The kingdom is saved and the main enemy is dead(or at least assumed dead). Who gives a shit about that brat anyway. If he wants to kill himself that's his problem. On a side-note though -> what was that preview for the next episode? That was... I don't know if weird is the right word for that. |
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