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Dec 23, 2014 6:32 AM
#51
Serhiyko said: zygisrko said: Lol in my opinion your only born male or female. No matter what you changed it to. And there are also intersex, who may have both male and female genitals, gonads and even chromosomes. I mean, although such cases are very very rare, but how can you say that person is born male or female if (s)he has both XX and XY chromosomes at the same time How you say? Because I dont see many very very rare cases walking around and dont bother to acknowledge the 0.1%. |
Dec 23, 2014 6:41 AM
#52
zygisrko said: Serhiyko said: And there are also intersex, who may have both male and female genitals, gonads and even chromosomes. I mean, although such cases are very very rare, but how can you say that person is born male or female if (s)he has both XX and XY chromosomes at the same time How you say? Because I dont see many very very rare cases walking around and dont bother to acknowledge the 0.1%. A better argument for this would be that in the cases of intersex people, people born with fucky chromosomes (XXY and the like) and hermaphrodites, those people almost always choose to live and present themselves as either male or female. Very few embrace it as a lifestyle or gender identity. But also it's true that in terms of sex, at least, you're born either male or female. Specifically, if you have a Y chromosome you're male and if you don't you're female. (Or so my GCSE biology textbook said, anyway.) But that's a question of sex, and not of gender. |
Dec 23, 2014 7:52 AM
#53
utasan said: But also it's true that in terms of sex, at least, you're born either male or female. Specifically, if you have a Y chromosome you're male and if you don't you're female. (Or so my GCSE biology textbook said, anyway.) Except when some of your cells have XX chromosomes and other cells have XY chromosomes. So who were you born in this case: male or female? zygisrko said: How you say? Because I dont see many very very rare cases walking around and dont bother to acknowledge the 0.1%. It just proves that your opinion is not worth a penny since it is factually wrong, as I just proved |
Dec 23, 2014 8:31 AM
#54
Serhiyko said: utasan said: But also it's true that in terms of sex, at least, you're born either male or female. Specifically, if you have a Y chromosome you're male and if you don't you're female. (Or so my GCSE biology textbook said, anyway.) Except when some of your cells have XX chromosomes and other cells have XY chromosomes. So who were you born in this case: male or female? That's not a thing I've ever heard of, and I'm far from an expert, but going by the criteria above, you have a Y chromosome, therefore you're male. Once again though, that person would most likely end up living as either male or female either through their own choice or through the choice of their parents. Why are you so obsessed with mosaicism, anyway, it's not actually relevant to the topic. |
Dec 23, 2014 9:22 AM
#55
utasan said: That's not a thing I've ever heard of, and I'm far from an expert, but going by the criteria above, you have a Y chromosome, therefore you're male. But you don't! Half of you, at least utasan said: Once again though, that person would most likely end up living as either male or female either through their own choice or through the choice of their parents. Or neither. That's what the OP is trying to tell us utasan said: Why are you so obsessed with mosaicism, anyway, it's not actually relevant to the topic. It is, this is what it is all about and the only relevant thing to the topic |
Dec 23, 2014 9:43 AM
#56
Serhiyko said: But you don't! Half of you, at least Not sure biological sex is measured in halfs, bud. Or neither. That's what the OP is trying to tell us Not even close. OP isn't talking about genetic deformities (which are actually outliers and shouldn't be considered separate genders), OP is talking about special-snowflake non-binary tumblr bullshit. It is, this is what it is all about and the only relevant thing to the topic Nope, you're discussing sex and genetics, op is discussing gender and indentity. Different topics that, granted, intersect, but are not the same thing. |
Dec 23, 2014 1:12 PM
#57
utasan said: Not sure biological sex is measured in halfs, bud. That's what I'm saying, too. Not all of your cells have Y chromosome. Aren't all of your cells supposed to have Y chromosome if you are male? If you answer "no" to this question - you win utasan said: Not even close. OP isn't talking about genetic deformities (which are actually outliers and shouldn't be considered separate genders), OP is talking about special-snowflake non-binary tumblr bullshit. Okay utasan said: Nope, you're discussing sex and genetics, op is discussing gender and indentity. Different topics that, granted, intersect, but are not the same thing. Okay |
Dec 23, 2014 1:46 PM
#59
humans have only 2 genders.. male and female anything else you say is invalid /thread although you can say whatever you "think" you are on your about me. |
Dec 23, 2014 1:48 PM
#60
y'all so quick to get butthurt on topics that in fact has nothing to do with you. |
Dec 23, 2014 2:01 PM
#61
Lencurryboy said: lots of transphobia in this thread /: Not even. |
Dec 23, 2014 2:03 PM
#62
Lencurryboy said: lots of transphobia in this thread /: it's MAL |
Dec 23, 2014 2:03 PM
#63
stop pushing your sjw agenda onto me op |
an egomaniac and a fool |
Dec 23, 2014 2:07 PM
#64
Lencurryboy said: fear what u cant understandlots of transphobia in this thread /: |
Dec 23, 2014 3:47 PM
#65
Dec 23, 2014 4:30 PM
#66
Serhiyko said: It just proves that your opinion is not worth a penny since it is factually wrong, as I just proved I wasnt trying to prove that there is 0.1% intersex individuals in the world or MAL. Lol, I was saying whats the point if there are practically no one on here that is intersex and if there is, they dont make up the rest of the crowd. |
Apr 26, 2015 7:03 PM
#67
I recently joined this site and one glaring thing that I noticed was that there were only the options of "male" and "female" under the gender category. Even though this doesn't affect me personally all that much, it could be frustrating or possibly ostracizing for people who don't fall on the gender binary. I did a search on gender in the forums and found that someone had mentioned this some time ago, but no one took them seriously. Note that these days Facebook allows you to set your gender as anything you want. If this community decides to add further options, we could then discuss what gender labels might be best to add. |
Apr 26, 2015 7:06 PM
#68
Agreed. Having a drop down list for gender on sites like this just feels so useless. Just have a blank box and let people write whatever they want... |
Apr 26, 2015 7:24 PM
#69
Why frustraiting when they arent forced to pick anyway? Id go for it only if tentacle monster and android are options. But yeah might as well just be blank. |
Apr 26, 2015 7:27 PM
#70
add an option to "fill in the blank" people can and will abuse this, but it's the most flexible option. or maybe add a "neither" option, if you don't want to give users the freedom to choose. |
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Apr 26, 2015 8:03 PM
#71
DreamingBeats said: People already abuse male and female by posing as the other so that isnt more a risk really. Let them abuse all they want it does nothing.add an option to "fill in the blank" people can and will abuse this, but it's the most flexible option. or maybe add a "neither" option, if you don't want to give users the freedom to choose. |
Apr 26, 2015 8:24 PM
#73
Monster with Tentacles as an option. Otherwise, don't count me in. |
Apr 26, 2015 8:25 PM
#74
As others are suggesting, I would personally like a fill-in-the blank for the gender section and I don't think it would take too much work. Honestly, if devs want to get lazy about it, take the AIM section and rename it Gender. This would give users unlimited options-- unless there's a character limit, but hey. |
Apr 26, 2015 8:29 PM
#75
just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) |
Apr 26, 2015 8:31 PM
#76
Apr 26, 2015 8:32 PM
#77
Apr 26, 2015 8:36 PM
#78
j0x said: just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) That's actually not true. There are people who are intersex. 13lue said: Why'd you want to hide your gender, that's seriously suspicious. Who said anything about hiding one's gender. The idea is to have an option to give a better representation of one's gender. |
Apr 26, 2015 8:38 PM
#79
stephen5000 said: j0x said: just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) That's actually not true. There are people who are intersex. 13lue said: Why'd you want to hide your gender, that's seriously suspicious. Who said anything about hiding one's gender. The idea is to have an option to give a better representation of one's gender. I don't think it's needed as the default should be either male or female. Why do you need a representation for your gender? You're more than a male? |
Apr 26, 2015 8:39 PM
#80
Apr 26, 2015 8:50 PM
#81
Swiggy said: take the AIM section and rename it Gender. This would give users unlimited options-- unless there's a character limit, but hey. that's actually a good idea. it's not like people even use aim anymore... (or even know what it is) |
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Apr 26, 2015 8:52 PM
#82
I find it kind of sad that due to Tumblr's bullshit "demigender" "spacekin" "fictivegender" "autisgender" (Autism as a gender, yes, that's what it is) that these kinds of suggestions can't be taken as seriously was one may think they would and often only leads to laugh and giggles. I don't care either way though if this option is implemented. If I see someone use a fill-in-the-blank gender option to list themselves as a dragon or god unironically I just know who to avoid forever. Why the fuck did I make this my 3000th post? Ugh. |
Apr 26, 2015 9:08 PM
#83
YES please. I leave my gender blank for this reason. |
added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
Apr 26, 2015 9:14 PM
#84
I made a similar suggestion a while back and ended up asking a mod to lock it because of the amount of hate. That said, I still support the idea. |
Apr 26, 2015 9:19 PM
#85
ihateeveryone said: I find it kind of sad that due to Tumblr's bullshit "demigender" "spacekin" "fictivegender" "autisgender" (Autism as a gender, yes, that's what it is) that these kinds of suggestions can't be taken as seriously was one may think they would and often only leads to laugh and giggles. I don't care either way though if this option is implemented. If I see someone use a fill-in-the-blank gender option to list themselves as a dragon or god unironically I just know who to avoid forever. Why the fuck did I make this my 3000th post? Ugh. I think this is actually a great post for your 3000th. At least, I found it to be a good read. Being serious, I think it would be something genuinely good to implement. |
Apr 26, 2015 9:22 PM
#86
stephen5000 said: j0x said: just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) That's actually not true. There are people who are intersex. ah ye like hermaphrodites, so just add it to make 3 sex options then (male, female, intersex) instead of the huge number of genders out there im for minimalism |
Apr 26, 2015 9:25 PM
#87
j0x said: stephen5000 said: j0x said: just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) That's actually not true. There are people who are intersex. ah ye like hermaphrodites, so just add it to make 3 sex options then (male, female, intersex) instead of the huge number of genders out there im for minimalism As I insisted in December, we could instead have a gender option for "other"..? The OP's suggestion is much more preferable, but I'm not sure if the community would welcome it. |
Apr 26, 2015 9:34 PM
#88
vodall said: j0x said: stephen5000 said: j0x said: just rename that "Gender" feature to "Sex" since there are only 2 sex anyway (male and female) That's actually not true. There are people who are intersex. ah ye like hermaphrodites, so just add it to make 3 sex options then (male, female, intersex) instead of the huge number of genders out there im for minimalism As I insisted in December, we could instead have a gender option for "other"..? The OP's suggestion is much more preferable, but I'm not sure if the community would welcome it. ye "Other" option can be a good replacement for the "Not Specified" option and also i remember we have this statistics so that Gender feature thing really should be renamed to a Sex feature imho |
Apr 26, 2015 9:40 PM
#89
I think it's better to use "gender" rather than "sex". "Sex" is personal and medical and not something everyone wants to share. "Gender" is more about who you are as a person. Btw, does anyone know why this update wasn't pursued back in December? |
Apr 26, 2015 9:43 PM
#90
my guess is that there wasn't much demand back then and/or they were too lazy busy to make the change. |
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Apr 26, 2015 9:43 PM
#91
stephen5000 said: Btw, does anyone know why this update wasn't pursued back in December? lol get use to it, suggestions in MAL takes a long long time to implement and most suggestions are ignored by the developers, although we got a new and a group of developers now i read on the announcement board so things might change around this part of the forum |
Apr 26, 2015 9:44 PM
#92
stephen5000 said: Btw, does anyone know why this update wasn't pursued back in December? At the time, MyAnimeList was under a different management largely known for its inability to keep the site updated. |
Apr 26, 2015 11:27 PM
#93
Apr 26, 2015 11:31 PM
#94
A "neither/other" option like a lot of other websites have seems enough, no need to have a a full list of 20-something neo-genders. Because you know that someone is gonna end up feeling left out no matter how many of those you add. |
Apr 26, 2015 11:34 PM
#95
Harii said: A "neither/other" option like a lot of other websites have seems enough, no need to have a a full list of 20-something neo-genders. Because you know that someone is gonna end up feeling left out no matter how many of those you add. Too true. Which is why a fill in the blank could also be useful. But "other" works fine and the person could just expand on this in the about section, if they so choose. |
Apr 27, 2015 12:48 AM
#96
So we have two votes for tentacle monster now 13lue said: No gender usually means its a teenage girl. Why'd you want to hide your gender, that's seriously suspicious. 13lue said: transsexual isnt a gender really though. Its more a description of a state of gender dysphoria. Although transgender can mean a group of non binary genders in general. Yeah, make another choice. "Transexual". stephen5000 said: Aw but id like to see how many people put "yes please'" for their sex. I think it's better to use "gender" rather than "sex". "Sex" is personal and medical and not something everyone wants to share. "Gender" is more about who you are as a person. Btw, does anyone know why this update wasn't pursued back in December? ihateeveryone said: Wow i didnt even hear of some of those. People are really retarded about this stuff lately its like no one knows whats a normal varience and think they are any different from anyone. I find it kind of sad that due to Tumblr's bullshit "demigender" "spacekin" "fictivegender" "autisgender" (Autism as a gender, yes, that's what it is) that these kinds of suggestions can't be taken as seriously was one may think they would and often only leads to laugh and giggles. I don't care either way though if this option is implemented. If I see someone use a fill-in-the-blank gender option to list themselves as a dragon or god unironically I just know who to avoid forever. Why the fuck did I make this my 3000th post? Ugh. Does that mean wed have " cis shitlord" as an option too? |
Apr 27, 2015 2:47 AM
#97
13lue said: Yeah, make another choice. "Transexual". Transexual isn't a gender. |
added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
Apr 27, 2015 7:45 AM
#98
Lemongrope said: Just have a blank box and let people write whatever they want... Bad idea traed said: 13lue said: No gender usually means its a teenage girl. Why'd you want to hide your gender, that's seriously suspicious. Truth |
Apr 27, 2015 8:42 AM
#99
this is why we have the non-specified option for people who don't want to put male or female what a pointless suggestion |
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