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Jan 4, 2015 5:15 AM

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If Japan wants to increase the birth rate, they have to remove the homosexual trait
 
Jan 4, 2015 5:20 AM

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moonnya said:
If Japan wants to increase the birth rate, they have to remove the homosexual trait


How are they going to do that? I thought there was no such thing as a gay gene or trait. Wouldn't it just be easier to pay people to have kids like other countries did long ago.
 
Jan 4, 2015 5:25 AM
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Wow that's a really ignorant statement to make, I've watched over 300 anime in my life and I've hardly come across any homosexuals who was at the same time a cross-dresser. So I'm going to assume that either you're watching all the wrong stuff or you're just making a bold statement to make yourself seem right. I bet you can't even name 12 gay cross-dressers.


Wow lol someone went on attack mode. No shit I can't remember 12 gay cross-dressers they were either background characters or side characters. I probably am just watching the one stuff it has nothing to do with making a bold statement to make myself seem right. It's simply what I have seen :/


Um when did I ever attack you, you just claimed that all homosexuals in anime are cross dressers and I just called you out on your bullshit. Even if they're are background characters or you can't remember their names you should still be able to remember what show their from, or are you using the background characters excuse to dodge the question?
 
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kyomi-san245 said:
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Wow lol someone went on attack mode. No shit I can't remember 12 gay cross-dressers they were either background characters or side characters. I probably am just watching the one stuff it has nothing to do with making a bold statement to make myself seem right. It's simply what I have seen :/


Um when did I ever attack you, you just claimed that all homosexuals in anime are cross dressers and I just called you out on your bullshit. Even if they're are background characters or you can't remember their names you should still be able to remember what show their from, or are you using the background characters excuse to dodge the question?


Take note that I put lol before I said "Someone went on attack mode"

No I'm not dodging anything I simply can't remember the shows these crossdressing gays were from. One scene I remember were the character was walking and a black dude in a pink dress with a weird voice starts talking.
 
Jan 4, 2015 5:38 AM
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Fierce_Deity22 said:
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Um when did I ever attack you, you just claimed that all homosexuals in anime are cross dressers and I just called you out on your bullshit. Even if they're are background characters or you can't remember their names you should still be able to remember what show their from, or are you using the background characters excuse to dodge the question?


Take note that I put lol before I said "Someone went on attack mode"

No I'm not dodging anything I simply can't remember the shows these crossdressing gays were from. One scene I remember were the character was walking and a black dude in a pink dress with a weird voice starts talking.


Well you take not as well, if you make a bold statement on a subject like this and you can't back it up people are gonna call you out on it.
 
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kyomi-san245 said:
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Take note that I put lol before I said "Someone went on attack mode"

No I'm not dodging anything I simply can't remember the shows these crossdressing gays were from. One scene I remember were the character was walking and a black dude in a pink dress with a weird voice starts talking.


Well you take not as well, if you make a bold statement on a subject like this and you can't back it up people are gonna call you out on it.


Does this do it for ya. :^/

Ya its weird in the anime I have seen it shows all gay people are cross dressers. Its just really disturbing.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1324409&show=140#p4mpfR1w9JSmJHmb.99
 
Jan 4, 2015 6:04 AM
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Fierce_Deity22 said:
kyomi-san245 said:


Well you take not as well, if you make a bold statement on a subject like this and you can't back it up people are gonna call you out on it.


Does this do it for ya. :^/

Ya its weird in the anime I have seen it shows all gay people are cross dressers. Its just really disturbing.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1324409&show=140#p4mpfR1w9JSmJHmb.99


Are you trying to be funny cause you're really not proving your point by doing this, my whole point is don't make such a bold claim if you can't even back it up with no other excuse that ''I claim to have seen it in all the shows I watched so you have to take my word for it'' ,because that's basically what I'm getting from all the statements you have made.
 
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I wonder if people will ever stop finding something to complain about. Anime is great the way it is.
Feel free to message me to chat.
 
Jan 4, 2015 7:28 AM

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Gay people are nearly always portrayed as borderline rapists/pedophiles who have to fuck every man in a 2 mile radius.
Women, especially moe characters, are often portrayed as psychologically weak (clumsiness, emotional dependence to males, emotional immaturity (tsundere), crybabies) and are often so sexualised it's ridiculous. Pantyshots, boobgrabs etc. are fine in an ecchi, but they don't belong in a serious show.


You're right. Forcing ecchi into a show where it doesn't belong really brings it down, and the moe genre has become tiresome and trite. However, there is a lot of good anime that doesn't do that. Abandon the crap shows and seek out better ones!
 
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Gay people are nearly always portrayed as borderline rapists/pedophiles who have to fuck every man in a 2 mile radius.
Women, especially moe characters, are often portrayed as psychologically weak (clumsiness, emotional dependence to males, emotional immaturity (tsundere), crybabies) and are often so sexualised it's ridiculous. Pantyshots, boobgrabs etc. are fine in an ecchi, but they don't belong in a serious show.


I like how you made several good points; however, the trolls on MAL say "why does it matter? or Who cares?

To be honest I'm not sure why they are being depict as such, my only guess is because the Japanese are huge on using stereotypes within their entertainment. Just look at every "white foreign," with blonde hair and blue eyes. Every black person either has a huge afro, dreadlocks ect. Women are often shown as weak. There are many more problems with plenty of anime, but it is beginning to get better.
 
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Homophobic.

Are u mad?

Yaoi is a Japanese word.....


 
Mar 6, 2015 1:06 AM

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I don't watch stuff between dudes so I can't confirm anything...

but in my experiance. Lesbian anime characters behave pretty much the same as straight female anime characters.. hell... Anime is probably the least homophobic media I've ever seen.

As for women.. I tend to disagree. There's just as many male stereotypes, if not more. Hell.. females in anime are generally stronger and smarter than the dump perverted male characters.

In other words... I don't really see what you're talking about, other than the fanservice.
 
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Kurosakimaru said:
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Gay people are nearly always portrayed as borderline rapists/pedophiles who have to fuck every man in a 2 mile radius.
Women, especially moe characters, are often portrayed as psychologically weak (clumsiness, emotional dependence to males, emotional immaturity (tsundere), crybabies) and are often so sexualised it's ridiculous. Pantyshots, boobgrabs etc. are fine in an ecchi, but they don't belong in a serious show.


I like how you made several good points; however, the trolls on MAL say "why does it matter? or Who cares?

To be honest I'm not sure why they are being depict as such, my only guess is because the Japanese are huge on using stereotypes within their entertainment. Just look at every "white foreign," with blonde hair and blue eyes. Every black person either has a huge afro, dreadlocks ect. Women are often shown as weak. There are many more problems with plenty of anime, but it is beginning to get better.


Why'd you necromance this thread..?

Anywho.. it's all about audience and what sells. The ridiculous gay men who are pretty much rapists are actually the fantasy of women. The dumber-than-rocks women are to sell to the self-insert no-life otaku's who couldnt get a woman with a mind outside of watching anime.

All the other shades fall in fetish territory, which the Japanese are more open to.. which is oddly the opposite of how they view people who are different than themselves in any way shape or form. Always gaijin - never nihon - and don't you fucking forget it.

And if you want to see gay men in anime/manga who aren't in an omnipresent field of roses with pointy chins and emaciated bodies you'll have to find that which is made by gay men for gay men: bara.

Yaoi is created by men/women for women. It's not gay porn, it's lady porn.
 
Mar 6, 2015 1:22 AM

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why is it wrong for women to do the exact same thing that men do? Masturbate to the opposite sex doing it
 
Mar 6, 2015 1:24 AM

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why is it wrong for women to do the exact same thing that men do? Masturbate to the opposite sex doing it


Not in and of itself, but that it has prevented there being any gay characters of substance. There are lesbians in anime who aren't some ridiculous stereotype. There not any gay men who are afforded that level of dignity in mainstream anime.
 
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aloricg said:
silversongwriter said:
why is it wrong for women to do the exact same thing that men do? Masturbate to the opposite sex doing it


Not in and of itself, but that it has prevented there being any gay characters of substance. There are lesbians in anime who aren't some ridiculous stereotype. There not any gay men who are afforded that level of dignity in mainstream anime.


Oh... I wouldn't know...
um... there's um...
Bulat, I guess
 
Mar 6, 2015 1:50 AM

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Fate/Stay Night is sexist so I get what you mean, it's disgusting imo.

The VN is hard to read. Shirou has to protect a servant who's probably a million times stronger than him. WTH?


Your post is misleading.

Shirou and Saber are a team. It's only logical they protect each other.

Shirou pulled a sorry ass reason out of his ass to protect saber because of his superhero complex. He's not sexist. He just doesn't want saber to get hurt.

Saber's route is generally agreed to be the worst fate route. UBW and Heaven's Feel are the generally considered the best.

Shirou is an idealistic moron.
 
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PeripheralVision said:
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The VN is hard to read. Shirou has to protect a servant who's probably a million times stronger than him. WTH?


Your post is misleading.

Shirou and Saber are a team. It's only logical they protect each other.

Shirou pulled a sorry ass reason out of his ass to protect saber because of his superhero complex. He's not sexist. He just doesn't want saber to get hurt.

Saber's route is generally agreed to be the worst fate route. UBW and Heaven's Feel are the generally considered the best.

Shirou is an idealistic moron.


Having no idea what you're talking about.. it all sounds exceptionally stupid.
 
Mar 6, 2015 1:53 AM

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aloricg said:
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Your post is misleading.

Shirou and Saber are a team. It's only logical they protect each other.

Shirou pulled a sorry ass reason out of his ass to protect saber because of his superhero complex. He's not sexist. He just doesn't want saber to get hurt.

Saber's route is generally agreed to be the worst fate route. UBW and Heaven's Feel are the generally considered the best.

Shirou is an idealistic moron.


Having no idea what you're talking about.. it all sounds exceptionally stupid.



I think it made sense. What part sounds exceptionally stupid?
 
Mar 6, 2015 2:02 AM

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PeripheralVision said:
Casval_onii-san said:

The VN is hard to read. Shirou has to protect a servant who's probably a million times stronger than him. WTH?


Your post is misleading.

Shirou and Saber are a team. It's only logical they protect each other.

Shirou pulled a sorry ass reason out of his ass to protect saber because of his superhero complex. He's not sexist. He just doesn't want saber to get hurt.

Saber's route is generally agreed to be the worst fate route. UBW and Heaven's Feel are the generally considered the best.

Shirou is an idealistic moron.

Yes, yes he is (in fate). Wanting to protect women is a natural male reaction.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
Mar 6, 2015 2:05 AM

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black1blade said:
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Your post is misleading.

Shirou and Saber are a team. It's only logical they protect each other.

Shirou pulled a sorry ass reason out of his ass to protect saber because of his superhero complex. He's not sexist. He just doesn't want saber to get hurt.

Saber's route is generally agreed to be the worst fate route. UBW and Heaven's Feel are the generally considered the best.

Shirou is an idealistic moron.

Yes, yes he is (in fate). Wanting to protect women is a natural male reaction.


I disagree. A part of me feels that shirou doesn't want to protect Saber because of her gender but more of the fact that he can't stand being protected and have someone fight on his behalf. Perhaps he is a bit sexist, but I don't see it. We can both admit that in the end he is rather admirable, so I don't see the major problem with the Fate route.
 
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PeripheralVision said:
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Yes, yes he is (in fate). Wanting to protect women is a natural male reaction.


I disagree. A part of me feels that shirou doesn't want to protect Saber because of her gender but more of the fact that he can't stand being protected and have someone fight on his behalf. Perhaps he is a bit sexist, but I don't see it. We can both admit that in the end he is rather admirable, so I don't see the major problem with the Fate route.

Yeah his self worth is 0 pretty much.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
Mar 6, 2015 3:37 AM

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"borderline rapists/pedophiles who have to fuck every man in a 2 mile radius"

because anime is just trying to depict them as accurately possible

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Anime is anything but homophobic, I mean yaoi and yuri... Such a thing would never be legal in Saudie Arabia.
But sexist, yes, very. I'm a female myself but I hate 99% of female characters.
 
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Anime is anything but homophobic, I mean yaoi and yuri... Such a thing would never be legal in Saudie Arabia.
But sexist, yes, very. I'm a female myself but I hate 99% of female characters.

Bullshit is anime sexist - sorry but there's no argument here. There are good and bad male characters across all the genres of anime, there's fanservice across both genders although admitedly ecchi series are mainly targeted at men.

You're accusing an entire medium of being sexist, you may as well say books or films are too - there's no argument to be made. If you want to have a series discussion then at least talk about mainstream stuff, though I don't know how far you'll get considering a lot of them have BA female characters which aren't fanserviced and your dislike of them is purely personal.

Also, being a female doesn't make your opinion on female characters better - for one if they're aimed at anyone it's males, just as male characters are aimed at females. Secondly I'll go back to the point that characters you like and dislike are entirely a personal preference, of the top of my head I know one girl who loves shotas and one who loves loli's - another who's into yaoi shipping. You not liking female characters does not make anime sexist.
 
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Anime is anything but homophobic, I mean yaoi and yuri... Such a thing would never be legal in Saudie Arabia.
But sexist, yes, very. I'm a female myself but I hate 99% of female characters.

Bullshit is anime sexist - sorry but there's no argument here. There are good and bad male characters across all the genres of anime, there's fanservice across both genders although admitedly ecchi series are mainly targeted at men.

You're accusing an entire medium of being sexist, you may as well say books or films are too - there's no argument to be made. If you want to have a series discussion then at least talk about mainstream stuff, though I don't know how far you'll get considering a lot of them have BA female characters which aren't fanserviced and your dislike of them is purely personal.

Also, being a female doesn't make your opinion on female characters better - for one if they're aimed at anyone it's males, just as male characters are aimed at females. Secondly I'll go back to the point that characters you like and dislike are entirely a personal preference, of the top of my head I know one girl who loves shotas and one who loves loli's - another who's into yaoi shipping. You not liking female characters does not make anime sexist.
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To tell you my honest feelings, Admiral Müller, as the groom at a wedding ceremony, the Kaiser is simply just a handsome man, I'm afraid to say. But as the supreme fleet admiral who leads entire fleets, he's really a godly person. Don't you think so, too?
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I think he's quite godly as a groom, too.
 
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Actually male characters and female characters are primarily made for men by men with a hetero male audience being the assumed "gaze." Or vantage point if u want to call it that.

Yaoi is by str8 females for str8 females. There's pretty much no representation in the mainstream for a homosexual vantage.
 
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Kreion said:

Bullshit is anime sexist - sorry but there's no argument here. There are good and bad male characters across all the genres of anime, there's fanservice across both genders although admitedly ecchi series are mainly targeted at men.

You're accusing an entire medium of being sexist, you may as well say books or films are too - there's no argument to be made. If you want to have a series discussion then at least talk about mainstream stuff, though I don't know how far you'll get considering a lot of them have BA female characters which aren't fanserviced and your dislike of them is purely personal.

Also, being a female doesn't make your opinion on female characters better - for one if they're aimed at anyone it's males, just as male characters are aimed at females. Secondly I'll go back to the point that characters you like and dislike are entirely a personal preference, of the top of my head I know one girl who loves shotas and one who loves loli's - another who's into yaoi shipping. You not liking female characters does not make anime sexist.
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I've seen and read enough yaoi to see this much, at least. It doesn't take much to notice. Would be nice if they would have some less rape-y yaoi. Or just one that doesn't suck. *glares at Junjou Romantica*
 
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If rape ,which is one of the worst things you can do to another person, is in general glorified to ludicrous extents and treated like its absolutely nothing noteworthy in a lot of manga series (even a lot of non H ones),then I cant see why you should expect the portrayal of male homosexual characters to be anything remotely resembling reality.
 
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Kreion said:
Shirayukishi said:
Anime is anything but homophobic, I mean yaoi and yuri... Such a thing would never be legal in Saudie Arabia.
But sexist, yes, very. I'm a female myself but I hate 99% of female characters.

Bullshit is anime sexist - sorry but there's no argument here. There are good and bad male characters across all the genres of anime, there's fanservice across both genders although admitedly ecchi series are mainly targeted at men.

You're accusing an entire medium of being sexist, you may as well say books or films are too - there's no argument to be made. If you want to have a series discussion then at least talk about mainstream stuff, though I don't know how far you'll get considering a lot of them have BA female characters which aren't fanserviced and your dislike of them is purely personal.

Also, being a female doesn't make your opinion on female characters better - for one if they're aimed at anyone it's males, just as male characters are aimed at females. Secondly I'll go back to the point that characters you like and dislike are entirely a personal preference, of the top of my head I know one girl who loves shotas and one who loves loli's - another who's into yaoi shipping. You not liking female characters does not make anime sexist.


I'm not saying anime is the only sexist medium out there. And I'm not saying every anime is sexist. But if you disagree to the fact that many female characters are out there purely for fanservice then you're blind. Yes, there is male fanservice as well. Yes there as shallow male characters, take Sebastian Michaelis (Kuroshitsuji) for example. He has no character development whatsoever, no special personality traits, but he is one of the most popular male characters out there. Why? Because he is attractive. His cold character makes him attractive, his deep voice makes him attractive. That's about it.
So for you to say that this doesn't exist with females, it does. Many harems/ecchi/shounen have quite the ordinary guy as a lead role, but the girls can almost always be devided in a few catagories. The tsundere, the oppai chick, whatever. No special traits, the same thing again and again.
Why do I say that anime is sexist? I only realised this a few days ago. I'm watching Saionkoku Monogatari. I'm normally not interested in the lead female character, especially not in a reversed harem, but I was pleasently surprised by her character. The anime actually revolves about her trying to become part of the Imperial Court in China, even though it's strictly forbidden for females (actual history). This has been one of the few anime so far where a woman actually defends her right as a woman, she is smarter than most men because she doesn't give up. The anime is actually about feminism (in a good way), and I realised that I've almost never seen such a thing in anime.
Females are mostly supporting roles in anime, it can't be denied that most of the time, the main male lead is the hero. That's ok for me, I like that.
But it annoys me that so many girls are helpless and clueless, Sakura in Naruto, Orihime in Bleach are mostly hated.
It is a fact that the hierarchy between men and females are different in Asia.
You can't deny that. I'm very close friends with a Japanese woman of 50, and a Korean girl of 17.
They always have to comply to the wishes of their husband. It's not like they are slaves, but it's not like they can be a rebel either. It's just different, I've seen a Korean show called "Hello Counselor" where Korean people tell their problems, and the audience decides whether is a "problem" or not. I can't bear to watch the show anymore, after I've seen females treated so.. unkindly. Even though I'm not a feminist, it was quite hard for me.
Another example is Shoujo, almost 9 out of 10 of the female leads are the ones who confess to the male lead in the first chapter. The man rejects them, but the girls persuade the guy to date and in the end he gives in.
Take Ookami Shoujo to Kuro ouji for example? I hate females who destroy their pride. I'm sorry that's just me. So yes, I do hate most females in anime because of that reason. The two Nana's in NANA are the perfect examples of the opposites in female characters. One Nana is a man chaser, the other one actually has her own will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAj1TFk_GNM

If you're slightly interested, watch the first "story" of this woman in the show.
Her husband promised when they got married to at least get rid of his animals in their house because it's absolutely full. There are dead rats in the refrigator etc.
Yet, even after years he did not get rid of them, he only filled their house with more insects, a snake, huge spider etc. The woman has to clean the house which has become a huge mess because of it, she actually is the one with a stable job so she works and provides the income, she has to take care of their kid(s) (their health is in danger because the kid had breathing problems because of the animals) and on top of it, she's pregnant. The man doesn't care about it, and says he wishes his wife could understand his love for the animals. She can't divorce, that's looked down upon if a woman does. And what shocked me the most, it that the audience doesn't really see it as a problem. The second stoy proves my point as well. It's just quite different in Asia.
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It's called stereotyping. This exists everywhere :/
 
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Not really, depends what you watch.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
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If rape ,which is one of the worst things you can do to another person, is in general glorified to ludicrous extents and treated like its absolutely nothing noteworthy in a lot of manga series (even a lot of non H ones),then I cant see why you should expect the portrayal of male homosexual characters to be anything remotely resembling reality.



I haven't seen much rape in the animes I've watch.

I don't care much for the portrayal of rape in h manga. Let people enjoy their creepy ass stuff.
 
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Kreion said:

Bullshit is anime sexist - sorry but there's no argument here. There are good and bad male characters across all the genres of anime, there's fanservice across both genders although admitedly ecchi series are mainly targeted at men.

You're accusing an entire medium of being sexist, you may as well say books or films are too - there's no argument to be made. If you want to have a series discussion then at least talk about mainstream stuff, though I don't know how far you'll get considering a lot of them have BA female characters which aren't fanserviced and your dislike of them is purely personal.

Also, being a female doesn't make your opinion on female characters better - for one if they're aimed at anyone it's males, just as male characters are aimed at females. Secondly I'll go back to the point that characters you like and dislike are entirely a personal preference, of the top of my head I know one girl who loves shotas and one who loves loli's - another who's into yaoi shipping. You not liking female characters does not make anime sexist.


I'm not saying anime is the only sexist medium out there. And I'm not saying every anime is sexist. But if you disagree to the fact that many female characters are out there purely for fanservice then you're blind. Yes, there is male fanservice as well. Yes there as shallow male characters, take Sebastian Michaelis (Kuroshitsuji) for example. He has no character development whatsoever, no special personality traits, but he is one of the most popular male characters out there. Why? Because he is attractive. His cold character makes him attractive, his deep voice makes him attractive. That's about it.
So for you to say that this doesn't exist with females, it does. Many harems/ecchi/shounen have quite the ordinary guy as a lead role, but the girls can almost always be devided in a few catagories. The tsundere, the oppai chick, whatever. No special traits, the same thing again and again.
Why do I say that anime is sexist? I only realised this a few days ago. I'm watching Saionkoku Monogatari. I'm normally not interested in the lead female character, especially not in a reversed harem, but I was pleasently surprised by her character. The anime actually revolves about her trying to become part of the Imperial Court in China, even though it's strictly forbidden for females (actual history). This has been one of the few anime so far where a woman actually defends her right as a woman, she is smarter than most men because she doesn't give up. The anime is actually about feminism (in a good way), and I realised that I've almost never seen such a thing in anime.
Females are mostly supporting roles in anime, it can't be denied that most of the time, the main male lead is the hero. That's ok for me, I like that.
But it annoys me that so many girls are helpless and clueless, Sakura in Naruto, Orihime in Bleach are mostly hated.
It is a fact that the hierarchy between men and females are different in Asia.
You can't deny that. I'm very close friends with a Japanese woman of 50, and a Korean girl of 17.
They always have to comply to the wishes of their husband. It's not like they are slaves, but it's not like they can be a rebel either. It's just different, I've seen a Korean show called "Hello Counselor" where Korean people tell their problems, and the audience decides whether is a "problem" or not. I can't bear to watch the show anymore, after I've seen females treated so.. unkindly. Even though I'm not a feminist, it was quite hard for me.
Another example is Shoujo, almost 9 out of 10 of the female leads are the ones who confess to the male lead in the first chapter. The man rejects them, but the girls persuade the guy to date and in the end he gives in.
Take Ookami Shoujo to Kuro ouji for example? I hate females who destroy their pride. I'm sorry that's just me. So yes, I do hate most females in anime because of that reason. The two Nana's in NANA are the perfect examples of the opposites in female characters. One Nana is a man chaser, the other one actually has her own will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAj1TFk_GNM

If you're slightly interested, watch the first "story" of this woman in the show.
Her husband promised when they got married to at least get rid of his animals in their house because it's absolutely full. There are dead rats in the refrigator etc.
Yet, even after years he did not get rid of them, he only filled their house with more insects, a snake, huge spider etc. The woman has to clean the house which has become a huge mess because of it, she actually is the one with a stable job so she works and provides the income, she has to take care of their kid(s) (their health is in danger because the kid had breathing problems because of the animals) and on top of it, she's pregnant. The man doesn't care about it, and says he wishes his wife could understand his love for the animals. She can't divorce, that's looked down upon if a woman does. And what shocked me the most, it that the audience doesn't really see it as a problem. The second stoy proves my point as well. It's just quite different in Asia.

+1 I like this post and I agree with some points.

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I've seen and read enough yaoi to see this much, at least.

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No you haven't.

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watch nodame cantabile

recommend me anything!
 
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did SSW open a school for gifted trolls or something ??!!
 
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did SSW open a school for gifted trolls or something ??!!
lmao i assume ALTS but who knows... an SSW army O.O
 
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did SSW open a school for gifted trolls or something ??!!
lmao i assume ALTS but who knows... an SSW army O.O

it's time to quit MAL

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I didn't know that Jonathan McIntosh watched anime.
 
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lmao i assume ALTS but who knows... an SSW army O.O

it's time to quit MAL


nuh-uhh!!!
i want to sign up to some courses!!!
like subtle bating mechanics :3
 
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did SSW open a school for gifted trolls or something ??!!


I am a gifted troll to be honest... Let's be honest. I am a troll
 
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did SSW open a school for gifted trolls or something ??!!


I am a gifted troll to be honest... Let's be honest. I am a troll


I FUKIN LOVE U !!!! <3
U R LIKE WHY I COME BACK TO MAL ALL THE TIME !!!
 
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I am a gifted troll to be honest... Let's be honest. I am a troll


I FUKIN LOVE U !!!! <3
U R LIKE WHY I COME BACK TO MAL ALL THE TIME !!!


Most trolls don't have my creativity
 
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I FUKIN LOVE U !!!! <3
U R LIKE WHY I COME BACK TO MAL ALL THE TIME !!!


Most trolls don't have my creativity


y do i get the feeling that you r leaving mal ?? :|
 
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Most trolls don't have my creativity


y do i get the feeling that you r leaving mal ?? :|


I am preparing for the possibility of me being banned for a bit after that little fiasco. It was a harmless prank, but others might not see it that way. I'd have to be prepared to travel on to the next place... as is the way of a troll.

That's why I need to try and stay on the admins good side
 
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SSW GAMBAREE!!!!
u r my favorite mal user btw, because your name rhymes with my favorite anime which is SSY.
 
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Sex sells.

Kinda gay ( Happy )
 
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y do i get the feeling that you r leaving mal ?? :|


I am preparing for the possibility of me being banned for a bit after that little fiasco. It was a harmless prank, but others might not see it that way. I'd have to be prepared to travel on to the next place... as is the way of a troll.

That's why I need to try and stay on the admins good side


lol someones scared
"If you died, would anyone care? Would they really care? Maybe, they'd cry for a day. But, let's be honest no one would give a shit. They wouldn't. The few people that would feel obligated to go to your funeral would probably be annoyed and leave as early as possible. That's who you are. That's what you are. You are nothing to anyone. To everyone."
-Mr. Robot

"I can take another name, and build a new life.. But on the inside I'll always have that instinct, no matter how much I hate it. I'm yakuza through and through. Guile only gets you so far in this game. Remember that. You won't get another chance."
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Huh. I Just finished watching episode 8 of Shinsekai Yori
 
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Huh. I Just finished watching episode 8 of Shinsekai Yori


that joke is so 2012
"If you died, would anyone care? Would they really care? Maybe, they'd cry for a day. But, let's be honest no one would give a shit. They wouldn't. The few people that would feel obligated to go to your funeral would probably be annoyed and leave as early as possible. That's who you are. That's what you are. You are nothing to anyone. To everyone."
-Mr. Robot

"I can take another name, and build a new life.. But on the inside I'll always have that instinct, no matter how much I hate it. I'm yakuza through and through. Guile only gets you so far in this game. Remember that. You won't get another chance."
-Kiryu Kazuma
 
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