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Dec 13, 2014 10:31 PM

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Maybe the episode thread wasn't the best place to have this conversation.


 
Dec 13, 2014 10:33 PM

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In hindsight, would you'd rather the original FSN game to be H-free? As far as I know, Type-Moon's trying to rinse themselves clean of their past. Would the fate franchise have a larger fanbase than it does today?


I breezed through the H-scenes since all I did not care about the details about the sex. All I needed to know was that they had sex. Then I move along. The H-scenes didn't hinder my enjoyment. nor do they affect the story in a negative way if they were completely stripped out from the visual novel. Therefore, it's fine to have the H-scenes to remain in the original FSN game.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:35 PM

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SwordHand said:
Maybe the episode thread wasn't the best place to have this conversation.
Suprise mofuka.

Everyone becomes a Nasufag eventually, derailing threads is just a side effect.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:36 PM

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SwordHand said:
Once the mayhem dies down, there's nothing to talk about.

Here's something more constructive to debate:

In hindsight, would you'd rather the original FSN game to be H-free? As far as I know, Type-Moon's trying to rinse themselves clean of their past. Would the fate franchise have a larger fanbase than it does today?


Honestly it wouldn't have mattered much to me. I thought the H-scenes in the original FSN were terrible anyway, if anything i laughed at them. Being all ages tends to make things more accessible but not sure if you could have done the HF route without the H-content considering a bunch of spoilerish stuff but if you've read it, you'd understand.

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eroge =/= film with sex scene in it.

eroge is a much more limited genre. There are many good films that have sex scenes in them. There aren't very many good eroge, and even fewer good eroge adaptations.


I do agree that there are alot of shitty eroge. I'd go as far as to say that for every 1 good one, there are 10 that are just terrible. The rest being just average. But even so, you cant really let the worst representations of the medium taint your judgement on the media as a whole.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:38 PM

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I do agree that there are alot of shitty eroge. I'd go as far as to say that for every 1 good one, there are 10 that are just terrible. The rest being just average. But even so, you cant really let the worst representations of the medium taint your judgement on the media as a whole.


Just like for every great novel, theres 20 horrible ones, every great movie theres 100 that suck ect ect ect
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:47 PM

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Things like Clannad, G-Senjou, Kara no Shoujo, Sekien no Iganok all have sex scenes. Does that mean they don't have a good story to tell?

Tbh I have (personally) never seen anyone ever criticise FSN for having some sex in it. If I did I would laugh at them.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:49 PM

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Things like Clannad, G-Senjou, Kara no Shoujo, Sekien no Iganok all have sex scenes. Does that mean they don't have a good story to tell?

Tbh I have (personally) never seen anyone ever criticise FSN for having some sex in it. If I did I would laugh at them.


That's not including the 90+% of visual novels we never get translated over here. There might be gems out there that we've never even heard about, or at least never have gotten the chance to read.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:55 PM

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WrongPriest said:
Things like Clannad, G-Senjou, Kara no Shoujo, Sekien no Iganok all have sex scenes. Does that mean they don't have a good story to tell?

Tbh I have (personally) never seen anyone ever criticise FSN for having some sex in it. If I did I would laugh at them.


Clannad doesn't have any sex scenes actually. Unless you're talking about ~Tomoyo After~. Key is actually pretty good about releasing all ages VNs, although pretty much all of them besides clannad and Rewrite have an 18+ option. Curious to see what they do with Angel beats though (off topic)

The only thing i criticize when it comes to FSN's sex is how laughably bad the scenes are written lol.
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:58 PM

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That one in Tsukihime if you chose Akiha early on ಠ_ಠ
 
Dec 13, 2014 10:59 PM

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FontSize72LOL said:
WrongPriest said:
Things like Clannad, G-Senjou, Kara no Shoujo, Sekien no Iganok all have sex scenes. Does that mean they don't have a good story to tell?

Tbh I have (personally) never seen anyone ever criticise FSN for having some sex in it. If I did I would laugh at them.


Clannad doesn't have any sex scenes actually. Unless you're talking about ~Tomoyo After~. Key is actually pretty good about releasing all ages VNs, although pretty much all of them besides clannad and Rewrite have an 18+ option. Curious to see what they do with Angel beats though (off topic)

The only thing i criticize when it comes to FSN's sex is how laughably bad the scenes are written lol.
Ikr lol, Nasu does try his hardest. XD

At least he's conscious of it, he got some other guys to write the scenes in FHA.

Which is probably why he's steering clear of it in his new works, he leaves that kind of thing to other writers.
 
Dec 13, 2014 11:00 PM

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Shiro useful, it's so much better ! Ufotable realized an impressive job on this anime. This eisode was intense.

That "Trace On" ! I was in the same state than Shiro (*-*).
And the fight between Souichirou and Saber was just perfect.
 
Dec 13, 2014 11:00 PM

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Ufotable are great at setting up the intensity of this battle. They chose to dramatize shirou's projection and I think it works well as the main focus. The music they chose was very grandiose, well chosen and symbolic.
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Dec 13, 2014 11:02 PM

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^oh lol, people are here to talk about the episode.

I'm out. XD You did this swordhand!
 
Dec 13, 2014 11:07 PM

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lol[spoiler] projection came ut like origin bullet....though this is not a complaint as long as there is an explanation..which they even gave this episode and elaborate later i'm fine with it

why do people keep saying [spoiler] the foreigner's name when it hasnt been revealed yet it's kind of idiotic.....it's almost as bad as the attack on titan fanbase

was it just me? or was [spoiler] that opener from Kuzuki was a shout out to Witch of the holy night? or did that actually happen..i can always sift through Xer Blades youtube channel for the answer but hearing it from you guys is always fun

that Kuzuki though!!! he took saber to school that's what you get when you fuck with bad bad leroy brown!!!! as usual this series has a LOT of great dialogue there is so much to pay attention to and this episode doesnt not dissapoint. so after two weeks of debate how many priests REJOICED!! at this episode. TESTIFY!!
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Dec 13, 2014 11:17 PM

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FontSize72LOL said:

I do agree that there are alot of shitty eroge. I'd go as far as to say that for every 1 good one, there are 10 that are just terrible. The rest being just average. But even so, you cant really let the worst representations of the medium taint your judgement on the media as a whole.


Just like for every great novel, theres 20 horrible ones, every great movie theres 100 that suck ect ect ect

I believe it's referred to as Sturgeon's Law:
"Ninety percent of everything is crap."
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Dec 13, 2014 11:43 PM

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y'allz prudes if you let sum sex scenes bother you
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
 
Dec 13, 2014 11:53 PM

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How ufotable gets Saber's butt kicked is surprisingly great....
5/5.
 
Dec 14, 2014 12:13 AM

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Kuzuki yo dayum man! Saber & rin got f*cked big time & shirou shonen moment is well done. Great episode 5/5!
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Dec 14, 2014 12:43 AM

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Waaiiit this is only 12 episodes long??? Wtf? Is it gonna be split into a second season like Fate/Zero??
 
Dec 14, 2014 12:43 AM

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Waaiiit this is only 12 episodes long??? Wtf? Is it gonna be split into a second season like Fate/Zero??

yes, there will be a second season.
 
Dec 14, 2014 1:01 AM

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PriestMeido said:
Ufotable are great at setting up the intensity of this battle. They chose to dramatize shirou's projection and I think it works well as the main focus. The music they chose was very grandiose, well chosen and symbolic.



I really liked the music too. Although, for some odd reason, I was expecting Ufotable to burst out playing the Fate/Zero theme ("Pt 0") when the projection happened.

I do hope Point Zero in its epic form (we've seen the slow, quiet versions of it so far in the background) is played once in the new show, even if it's an original F/Z piece. Besides, the basic melody is being used as a theme of sorts anyway.
 
Dec 14, 2014 1:23 AM
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Lol that random powerup tho.
 
Dec 14, 2014 1:27 AM

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Lol that random powerup tho.


They explained he has projected stuff before, he neglected telling anyone because projection is almost universally deemed worthless.
 
Dec 14, 2014 1:52 AM
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Even when Saber is getting owned she's still beautiful <3
So only 2 episodes left and then we'll have to wait till april for season 2, life sucks :'(
 
Dec 14, 2014 1:59 AM

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elros75 said:
Even when Saber is getting owned she's still beautiful <3
So only 2 episodes left and then we'll have to wait till april for season 2, life sucks :'(


However, the visual novel awaits (if you haven't read it yet). Visual novel = book + music + background illustrations + character sprites + voice acting (in this case)
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:01 AM

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elros75 said:
Even when Saber is getting owned she's still beautiful <3
So only 2 episodes left and then we'll have to wait till april for season 2, life sucks :'(


There's plenty of Saber in the Fate route of the VN :D you could just watch it on Xer Blade's channel on youtube.
 
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elros75 said:
Even when Saber is getting owned she's still beautiful <3
So only 2 episodes left and then we'll have to wait till april for season 2, life sucks :'(


However, the visual novel awaits (if you haven't read it yet). Visual novel = book + music + background illustrations + character sprites + voice acting (in this case) + porn

Fixed.
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:09 AM

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That avatar suits you perfectly.
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:14 AM

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What the flying fuck. How can a Master shit on saber like that? She must be caught by surprise but still.. she got pretty wrecked by a Caster's Master. Kuzuki's like a character in Tekken, fucking badass like Kiritsugu and Kirei.

I know the relation between Shirou and him but damn, didn't know he could do that. I still think he's a shit character but the parrying of Kuzuki's attacks was pretty badass.

Goddamn Shinji looks like and acts like an idiot as always. Shit will really get real if that servant joins the war.
 
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What the flying fuck. How can a Master shit on saber like that? She must be caught by surprise but still.. she got pretty wrecked by a Caster's Master. .


He was enhanced by Casters strengthening magic (stated by Shirou this episode) and just like you said Saber was caught by suprise.
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:32 AM

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Archer's past was interesting. Don't really understand it-hoping that they'll elaborate.
I thought you read the VN?

Yea I know what happened to him it's just that it's unclear when it takes place if that makes sense without spoiling.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:35 AM

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Oooh. Shiro awakens.

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Lol that random powerup tho.


It's not random at all. It's foreshadowed a bit, but you only get it once his true ability is properly explained and revealed.
One thing great about Nasu works is the amount of attention to detail they have to them.
 
Dec 14, 2014 2:36 AM

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That avatar suits you perfectly.

It did until MAL started being dumb as per usual.
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:00 AM
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Emiya being useful for once, his projection magic is more better than his strengthening magic
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:10 AM

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was it just me? or was


For the last spoiler -yes it was. Its not how he did it in the VN, but that IS very similar to how


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Emiya being useful for once, his projection magic is more better than his strengthening magic


Shirou has been ueful for last 5 episodes or so already.

If not for him, Rin would be a corpse with a knife stuck in her head by now.
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:13 AM
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Saber looked pathetically miserable in this episode.
Being kicked by a badass MAster of Caster.
Oh i love it.
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:29 AM

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SwordHand said:
Once the mayhem dies down, there's nothing to talk about.

Here's something more constructive to debate:

In hindsight, would you'd rather the original FSN game to be H-free? As far as I know, Type-Moon's trying to rinse themselves clean of their past. Would the fate franchise have a larger fanbase than it does today?

i think so, i mean,
it would be better if it was just implied
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However, that said, some things are needed
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:49 AM

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Excellent episode, don't remember kuzuki is that strong though. Saber can't do anything ._.
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Shrimperor said:

i think so, i mean,
it would be better if it was just implied
or

However, that said, some things are needed


Nah, pretty sure Fate would be undersold just like when Rewrite decided not to have H-scenes and that was supposed to be Key's flagship Visual Novel.

Not that I care about H*, but without it, most VN's we know just wouldn't have any sequels/prequels to them.

so, most people (atleast in Japan) buy/read VN because of the H-scenes?
sounds like a dumb reason to read/enjoy a story imho.....
 
Dec 14, 2014 3:57 AM
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Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.
 
Dec 14, 2014 4:05 AM

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Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.


^

THIS.

At this point Mahoyo sold less than Tsukihime. Its still "decent" sales, but among the lower ones for TM.
 
Dec 14, 2014 4:08 AM

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Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.
Dw I foresee Mahayo Realta Nua coming out with 10+ gratuitous Yuri H scenes.

It's the wise move financially.
 
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CookingPriest said:

j0x said:
Emiya being useful for once, his projection magic is more better than his strengthening magic


Shirou has been ueful for last 5 episodes or so already.

If not for him, Rin would be a corpse with a knife stuck in her head by now.


well ye, its just that this is the first time he have good competence doing it, the past heroic things he had done to save Rin was rather unmemorable to me
 
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WrongPriest said:
InsertPriestHere said:
Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.
Dw I foresee Mahayo Realta Nua coming out with 10+ gratuitous Yuri H scenes.

It's the wise move financially.


So the reverse FSN? good

AS long as ufotable does not chicken out and do not use the 4kids censor alts (both in fsn and in mahoyo)
 
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j0x said:
CookingPriest said:



Shirou has been ueful for last 5 episodes or so already.

If not for him, Rin would be a corpse with a knife stuck in her head by now.


well ye, its just that this is the first time he have good competence doing it, the past heroic things he had done to save Rin was rather unmemorable to me


I think he needs to do more things with blue sparks flying out of his ass, that seemed to garner attention.
 
Dec 14, 2014 4:13 AM

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Wow, I can't believe that Blondie allowed that mongrel Shinji to touch him. Although, my body is ready for his glorious introduction to Saber.
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InsertPriestHere said:
Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.


Wasn't Mahoyo too short and without voices ? and it was the 7th best selling VN in 2012 and H-Free Fate sold more than the original release
 
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Wow, I can't believe that foreigner allowed that mongrel Shinji to touch him. Although, my body is ready for his glorious introduction to Saber.

spoiler that shit.

We do not know his name yet.

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Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.


Wasn't Mahoyo too short and without voices ? and it was the 7th best selling VN in 2012 and H-Free Fate sold more than the original release

lack of voices benefits in SUPERB VISUAL QUALITY. Holy shit dem character designs and music.

It was but then it fell off the list quite fast, while fate keeps selling

H-Free fate sold purely due to hype.,
 
Dec 14, 2014 4:19 AM
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Adab1za said:
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Mahoyo undersold without sex scenes, so yeah.


Wasn't Mahoyo too short and without voices ? and it was the 7th best selling VN in 2012 and H-Free Fate sold more than the original release

Mahoyo wasn't that short by VN standards, I'd think, though I admit to being uncertain on this. And unvoiced VN's aren't uncommon, no doubt they just want to use it for the console version to make it sell.
H-Free Fate was released by the time Fate already had an established fanbase.
 
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j0x said:


well ye, its just that this is the first time he have good competence doing it, the past heroic things he had done to save Rin was rather unmemorable to me


I think he needs to do more things with blue sparks flying out of his ass, that seemed to garner attention.


nah i think a lot of people ignore or forget his actions because Shirou is an annoying moralfag/SJW that do not have the ability to defend his ideals very well although this episode prove that he will have the ability to defend his ideals in the future
 
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