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Dec 13, 2014 12:04 PM

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- The dream was awesome
- Saber got tossed around = 5/5
- Shirou's first projection
- Caster in the HA outfit 5/5
- Kuzuki being awesome as he is
- Shirou worrying for the best girl

Only bad point is, those projection might come quite as DEM for the non VN readers, but who cares, awesome episode
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:04 PM

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yalvyn said:
>all dem rules and restrictions

It's sure difficult as hell post in this thread, no?


Like, Kobayashi Maru level difficult.

It's a product of adapting the prequel first, and then the original story later, I suppose. If I remember correctly, most of those rules are there because anime-only viewers kept mentioning Fate/Zero, even though F/SN isn't actually a technical sequel to it.
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:06 PM

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Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?


Look at all the other Knight servant stats. Magic Resistance is for the knight classes: Saber, Lancer & Archer. But Saber alone has much higher Magic Resistance. And it's emphasized by being a Saber class. It's never explained tho in UBW. Or any routes, I think.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:07 PM

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yalvyn said:
>all dem rules and restrictions

It's sure difficult as hell post in this thread, no?


Like, Kobayashi Maru level difficult.


Going from the American freedom of 4chan to this is kinda hard to get used to, I agree. Nevertheless, these rules keep shitposting to a minimum, so is not all bad.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:07 PM

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Holy Grail!!! that was awesome!! Saber got her ass handed to her by a human, ( even tho he got her by surprise) but godamn that was crazy.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:08 PM

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Drake1000 said:
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i no rite?

Not enough.

Oh yeah in the VN, Shirou's reasoning for coming out quickly to face Caster is because if he didn't she would destroy the entire area if he didn't come sooner. Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability.
Ufotable yet again disregarding the informations in the monologues.
You don't need a freaking monologue to guess that Caster would wreck the whole place to make Rin and Shirou come out if they refused to do it on their own.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:09 PM

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Ah, I see. I figured they couldn't make it convincing so they took care of most of the problematic parts off-screen. That works well with me. We also learned that Saber is pretty weak and got her ass kicked by someone Shirou can fight for some time with.

Music was very good this episode, better than ever before. The episode was good overall. Very good beginning to the episode as well even with the entire UBW poem.

Oh, and I actually prefer this voice actor of Souichirou over the original in the VN.

All in all, considering this was going to be the most problematic episode in the anime in my opinion, they handled it very well.

Also, all monologues aren't monologues, they just explain the situation to the reader and they don't mean that the character is actually thinking those. You guys need to learn more about VNs told from the protagonist's PoV.
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Drake1000 said:
Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?


Sabers do generally tend to have high magic resistance, but they don't have to be rank A.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:10 PM
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JabonHR said:
yalvyn said:
>all dem rules and restrictions

It's sure difficult as hell post in this thread, no?


Like, Kobayashi Maru level difficult.

It's a product of adapting the prequel first, and then the original story later, I suppose. If I remember correctly, most of those rules are there because anime-only viewers kept mentioning Fate/Zero, even though F/SN isn't actually a technical sequel to it.

And because we kept discussing the VN and other random Nasuverse things.
 
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mira-lala said:
Drake1000 said:
Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?


Look at all the other Knight servant stats. Magic Resistance is for the knight classes: Saber, Lancer & Archer. But Saber alone has much higher Magic Resistance. And it's emphasized by being a Saber class. It's never explained tho in UBW. Or any routes, I think.


Riders also have magic resistance, FSN Rider has a B even higher than Archer and Lancer.
 
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]I don't see what's so bad about a bit of "shounenism" (or whatever the fuck you call it) from time to time.
Just embrace the tiny bit of cheesiness and let yourself get hyped by the badass powerup, that's all.


It does not fit the tone and atmosphere and butchers Shirou's personality.
"butcher" is a pretty gross exaggeration.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:11 PM

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ElPysCongroo said:
Drake1000 said:
Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?


Sabers do generally tend to have high magic resistance, but they don't have to be rank A.


Not just Sabers. All the knight classes. They need it to get close to Caster. Otherwise she'd be too OP. But it's never A unless they have something to buff it. Or they already have Magic Resistance.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:12 PM

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GangstaPriest said:
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Not enough.

Oh yeah in the VN, Shirou's reasoning for coming out quickly to face Caster is because if he didn't she would destroy the entire area if he didn't come sooner.[/B] Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability[/B].
Ufotable yet again disregarding the informations in the monologues.
You don't need a freaking monologue to guess that Caster would wreck the whole place to make Rin and Shirou come out if they refused to do it on their own.


"Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability"
Maybe you should pay more attention to that sentence of my post.
 
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Drake1000 said:
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Look at all the other Knight servant stats. Magic Resistance is for the knight classes: Saber, Lancer & Archer. But Saber alone has much higher Magic Resistance. And it's emphasized by being a Saber class. It's never explained tho in UBW. Or any routes, I think.


Riders also have magic resistance, FSN Rider has a B even higher than Archer and Lancer.


No, she's got natural Magic Resistance. Riders don't tend to get it given by the Grail.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:12 PM
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Ah, I see. I figured they couldn't make it convincing so they took care of most of the problematic parts off-screen. That works well with me. We also learned that Saber is pretty weak and got her ass kicked by someone Shirou can fight for some time with.

1.What did they take care of off-screen?
2.Again, Saber isn't weak;
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Saber is still stronger. It just so happens that while Shirou knew exactly what kind of monster he was facing, Saber thought he was just some random normal human, so she severely underestimated him and was too stunned to react in time to his first strike to the back of her neck, which disoriented her, making her unable to fight properly. Additionally, Shirou had time to observe his fighting style. In the VN it's stated that now that Saber is used to it, he wouldn't be able to defeat her again. Furthermore, to elaborate on what Forgetfulnes said;
(not sure if they is a spoiler, but yeah)
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:12 PM

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As always, everybody watches the episode and loves it, then goes onto these forums and start nitpicking the show to death until "ehhh it was alright".
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Dec 13, 2014 12:12 PM
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Darn! How is this freaking series not made into live action yet? This is the next franchise to milk similar to Marvel, DC, LOTR, etc if done properly and correctly..
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Dec 13, 2014 12:14 PM

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GangstaPriest said:
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It does not fit the tone and atmosphere and butchers Shirou's personality.
"butcher" is a pretty gross exaggeration.

No at this point it's a complete butchering of Shirou's character, on par with DEEN Night. He's just another narutard now.
 
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mira-lala said:
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Riders also have magic resistance, FSN Rider has a B even higher than Archer and Lancer.


No, she's got natural Magic Resistance. Riders don't tend to get it given by the Grail.

So you're saying it's mandatory for the knight classes to have magic resistance? I'm ok with this.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:15 PM

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Kuzuki beating Saber made perfect sense. The VN explains this perfectly:

If you haven’t read the VN or don’t want to be spoiled, just know that the false priests are lying to you. They claim to know what they’re talking about, but they’re just trying to troll you – and failing badly.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM

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That episode was amazing! Best episode of the series so far with by far the best fight scene. It had the animation quality of the first 2 eps but the epicness of all the others. I swear the budget on this ep was 2x that of previous normal length ones. This is ufotable at their best. Definitely the best tv anime fight seen I've ever seen. UBW looked nice too. This ep boosted it from an 8 to a 9 for me. Those snow effects looked lush. This is the only episode so far that I have nothing to nitpick about. It didn't conflict in my vision from the Vn but actually enhanced it and that's what a great adaptation should do!

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
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GangstaPriest said:
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It does not fit the tone and atmosphere and butchers Shirou's personality.
"butcher" is a pretty gross exaggeration.


A thoughtful suicidal desperate person disregarding his safety being turned into hotblooded screaming shonen hero?

I'd say that fits butcher definition.
 
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Drake1000 said:
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You don't need a freaking monologue to guess that Caster would wreck the whole place to make Rin and Shirou come out if they refused to do it on their own.


"Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability"
Maybe you should pay more attention to that sentence of my post.
Like I said, that's not that big a problem when even without that piece of info Shirou's action still makes perfect sense.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:18 PM

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Drake1000 said:
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No, she's got natural Magic Resistance. Riders don't tend to get it given by the Grail.

So you're saying it's mandatory for the knight classes to have magic resistance? I'm ok with this.


It is. Casters are very strong right? And they always attack from long distances because they can't do CQC, right? They keep their opponent far away by attacking relentlessly. BUT. If the opponent has magic resistance, they can go straight through those attacks. This is just to make it fair.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:19 PM
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Awesome episode! Kuzuki-sensei has been figured out. The action scenes were glorious, as well as Shirou's projection scene. I wonder if they will actually continue to pursue Caster and Kuzuki-sensei since he will most likely not leave Ryuudou temple now.

 
Dec 13, 2014 12:19 PM

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Guys it all makes 100% sense. Shut the fuck up (sorry about swearing but this is a huge steeping stone for shirou in every way. Me thinks #bait)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
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GangstaPriest said:
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"Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability"
Maybe you should pay more attention to that sentence of my post.
Like I said, that's not that big a problem when even without that piece of info Shirou's action still makes perfect sense.

That's like one of the few things that foreshadows that upcoming scene that I'm not going to mention but that you probably have guessed if you read the VN or heck saw the shitty Deen UBW movie.
So yeah it's not that okay to skip these kind of very important details.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:20 PM

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This is the best episode so far by far.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:21 PM

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CookingPriest said:
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"butcher" is a pretty gross exaggeration.


A thoughtful suicidal desperate person disregarding his safety being turned into hotblooded screaming shonen hero?
Shirou is a shounen. Shirou is a hero. Shirou screams a lot. Shirou gets pretty hotblooded when it comes to protecting those in mortal danger (obviously forgetting about his own well-being in the process).

It does seem like ufo's portrayal is on point.
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:21 PM

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Aniplex used the engrish chant instead of a direct translation.

That sort of is what you need to do though because the Engrish isn't some fansub group's translation, Archer actually says that stuff in Engrish
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Dec 13, 2014 12:22 PM

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Yes shirou is a boy. Hence caster saying "boyaa". He doesn't actually get powered up just an ability that he's always had. I could go into specifics but that would be spoilerz.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:24 PM

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I was waiting for the blond guy to punch Shinji because he touched him.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:25 PM

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How am I supposed to make this under 300kb? Pls MAL.

 
Dec 13, 2014 12:25 PM

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falcon punch

Stay in yesterday 時を止めて
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:25 PM

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I was waiting for the blond guy to punch Shinji because he touched him.


So was I. There was so much foreshadowing for that. Or maybe the goldie insulting Shitji for dear touching him. Them eyes tho *u*
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Dec 13, 2014 12:25 PM
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Damn, Kuzuki put in work this episode; he really punished Saber. :O Emiya's epic moment was pretty refreshing to see as well.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:26 PM

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falcon punch


LOL how could I not think of that
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:26 PM

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Benphyre said:
falcon punch



Imma save this. Perfect.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:27 PM

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Benphyre said:
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This scene left me wondering how she wasn't rendered permanently immobilized.

Also wow, that triple quote.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:28 PM

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falcon punch



This scene left me wondering how she wasn't rendered permanently immobilized.


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Dec 13, 2014 12:29 PM

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cupc said:
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falcon punch



This scene left me wondering how she wasn't rendered permanently immobilized.

Also wow, that triple quote.
Reinforcement, I guess.

We need more Kuzuki gifs in this thread.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
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cupc said:
Benphyre said:
falcon punch



This scene left me wondering how she wasn't rendered permanently immobilized.

Also wow, that triple quote.


She used strengthening magic on her legs before to enhance her physical ability, I'm assuming she did the same here to lighten the blow.
 
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Shirou in VN didn't scream or yell during the scene, he's basically like I need a weapon I need a weapon I need a weapon or Tohsaka will die.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:31 PM

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Kuzuki is so good at combat even he is a master of Caster. That was pretty impressive that he can take on a servant like Saber solo so easily.
 
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Shirou in VN didn't scream or yell during the scene, he's basically like I need a weapon I need a weapon I need a weapon or Tohsaka will die.


Yeah Monologues, something this adaptation lacks.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:32 PM

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Sensei is my favorite master
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:33 PM

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Yes, and Caster is Rin.
And Ayako is Shiki.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 13, 2014 12:33 PM

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Shinji is Lancer. They both have blue hair.

Edit: Can't believe you sniped me by 12 seconds.
 
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Kuzuki is so good at combat even he is a master of Caster. That was pretty impressive that he can take on a servant like Saber solo so easily.
Surprise attacks + enemy underestimating you + mage buffs help, yo.
 
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Omg, during the talk in the living room, they meshed Rin and Archer's themes together. O_O


 
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