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Dec 10, 2014 12:49 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
Don't forget, we also have Saberfags, Rinfags and Sakurafags (inb4 Fai starting another argument about how Sakura has no fans).


I thought so too, So I made a proud Sakura Fan :)

Now no-one can say she has no fans
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:49 PM

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OP if you don't like ridiculous quotes and the like I doubt you will like Fate / Zero, I almost dropped the series a whole point just from a scene that had three of the characters (won't name names) discussing what it meant to be a good king . . . There was a lot of other attempts at including philosophy into the series that I found either jarring or just plain retarded, but honestly cannot remember. The series was okay, but if you don't like Fate/Stay Night I can't imagine you would love Fate/Zero.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:50 PM

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I prefer Fate/Zero

The main character in Stay Night is just too dumb :x (PPL DIE IF THEY'RE KILLED)
Yeah he's so dumb for saying a common Japanese idiom. How dare he be Japanese and say Japanese stuff. Must be stupid.


Well it was funny to see that translation, it doesn't really matter btw. The thing is that he isn't portrayed as well as in the light novel.
Emiya or Rin are would've been way more interesting than him !
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Dec 10, 2014 12:51 PM

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Shrimperor said:
Seriously tough,
since i never wathced F/Z (will wait until after i play the VN, maybe during x-mas vacation) and ubw isn't finished yet,
i am gonna say only one thing:
F/Z 2nd op is more awesome then the ubw anime 1st op.


2nd op sounds like something similar to KnK music for me.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:52 PM

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KawaiiWeeabz said:
Well it was funny to say that translation, it doesn't really matter btw. The thing is that he isn't portrayed as well as in the light novel.
Emiya or Rin are would've been way more interesting than him !


ROFL @ bolded parts. Not sure if serious.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:53 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
KawaiiWeeabz said:
Well it was funny to say that translation, it doesn't really matter btw. The thing is that he isn't portrayed as well as in the light novel.
Emiya or Rin are would've been way more interesting than him !


ROFL @ bolded parts. Not sure if serious.


I don't even know whats going on anymore.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:54 PM

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Dec 10, 2014 12:54 PM

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ROFL @ bolded parts. Not sure if serious.


I don't even know whats going on anymore.


Yes, appearantly F/sn used to be a LIGHT novel now. Also did you know? Emiya would have been better MC than Emiya!


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Why doesn't anybody wait until ubw is finished and then compare it to F/Z?


This.
 
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Shrimperor said:
Seriously tough,
since i never wathced F/Z (will wait until after i play the VN, maybe during x-mas vacation) and ubw isn't finished yet,
i am gonna say only one thing:
F/Z 2nd op is more awesome then the ubw anime 1st op.


2nd op sounds like something similar to KnK music for me.
Cause it's by the same people.
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Shrimperor said:
Why doesn't anybody wait until ubw is finished and then compare it to F/Z?


I'll never know. It's the only thing that will make me argue with someone. If they compare F/Z to the same point as FSN and give good evidence I'm fine with it, but when they shit on FSN then bring up Fate/Zero I just shake my head.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:56 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
nocorras said:


2nd op sounds like something similar to KnK music for me.
Cause it's by the same people.


I know I'm just saying it sounds like it's straight ripped from KnK (not that it's bad that it sounds similar)
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:56 PM

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Shrimperor said:
Why doesn't anybody wait until ubw is finished and then compare it to F/Z?
Because this has a higher rating and too much hype so OBVIOUSLY it HAS to be better than F/Z and we CAN compare the two; it doesn't matter if they finished airing or not.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:00 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
Shrimperor said:
Why doesn't anybody wait until ubw is finished and then compare it to F/Z?
Because this has a higher rating and too much hype so OBVIOUSLY it HAS to be better than F/Z and we CAN compare the two; it doesn't matter if they finished airing or not.

That's why i never rate an unfinished show.
you just can't compare a finished with an airing show.
Let it end first and then Praise it/shit on it like you want.

Edit: And as if MAL rating matters anyway....
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Dec 10, 2014 1:03 PM

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Shrimperor said:
That's why i never rate an unfinished show.
Well, I do like to see how my opinion changes as the show goes on.

Shrimperor said:
you just can't compare a finished with an airing show.
Let it end first and then Praise it/shit on it like you want.
Stop making sense.
It's not welcome here.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:03 PM

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Oh, so the reason why all the secondaries complain is because they are jealous that the so-called "Harem shounen hentai show for children with generic MC" is ranked higher than the SUPER MATURE URO-APPROVED FULL OF GORE AND DEATH PERFECTLY WRITTEN FLAWLESS SUPERIOR SHOW?
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:04 PM

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I remember when FZ both seasons where in the top 10 in MAL because people were giving it a 10 after the first episode. If you rate a series really high after a couple of episodes, you are just inflating the score of the anime. Hence why both seasons of FZ are now not even in the top 20 because people adjusted their scores.

Never understood the phenomena of rating a series after one episode.
 
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Oh, so the reason why all the secondaries complain is because they are jealous that the so-called "Harem shounen hentai show for children with generic MC" is ranked higher than the SUPER MATURE URO-APPROVED FULL OF GORE AND DEATH PERFECTLY WRITTEN FLAWLESS SUPERIOR SHOW?
Not what I said, but there might be people who think like that.

To be blunt I hope I never come across someone like that.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:06 PM

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Never understood the phenomena of rating a series after one episode.
It's called first impressions.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:10 PM

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BotatoPriest said:

Shrimperor said:
you just can't compare a finished with an airing show.
Let it end first and then Praise it/shit on it like you want.
Stop making sense.
It's not welcome here.

Ah, sorry,
my mistake.
I forgot for a moment there that i was in a Type-moon sub-forum
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:11 PM

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Shrimperor said:
BotatoPriest said:

Stop making sense.
It's not welcome here.

Ah, sorry,
my mistake.
I forgot for a moment there that i was in a Type-moon sub-forum

Hey!
We can make sense.. we just get distracted.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:14 PM

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WrongPriest said:
Shrimperor said:

Ah, sorry,
my mistake.
I forgot for a moment there that i was in a Type-moon sub-forum

Hey!
We can make sense.. we just get distracted.
Moe female Rider with a moustache blushing in a preist outfit.

Yeah no.

I still like it though.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:15 PM

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I actually watched F/Z first, but immidietly followed with the F/sn VN.

Result:

main character:
UBW!Shirou/HF!Shirou >>>> ZERO!Kiritsugu >> FATE!Shirou

enjoyment:
UBW-route&HF-route > F/Z >>> Fate-route


So yes, the main character is an important deciding factor for me, but I think F/Z is actually better than the first route of the VN, but it's still overshadowed by the the other 2 routes, which means the chance is very high that my rating for this anime will be better than for F/Z.

And if anyone is interested: I dropped the anime by DEEN around Episodes 2-4 and never completely watched the DEEN UBW movie either, just a few scenes here and there.
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Dec 10, 2014 1:20 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
I actually watched F/Z first, but immidietly followed with the F/sn VN.

Result:

main character:
UBW!Shirou/HF!Shirou >>>> ZERO!Kiritsugu >> FATE!Shirou

story:
UBW-route&HF-route > F/Z >>> Fate-route


So yes, the main character is an important deciding factor for me, but I think F/Z is actually better than the first route of the VN, but it's still overshadowed by the the other 2 routes, which means the chance is very high that my rating for this anime will be better than for F/Z.

And if anyone is interested: I dropped the anime by DEEN around Episodes 2-4 and never completely watched the DEEN UBW movie either, just a few scenes here and there.


Wow, that's almost exactly like me as far as view order and rankings except I watched the UBW movie for shits and giggles. I dropped DEENnight in the first 30 seconds because I couldn't stand Sakura's english voice over so I said fuck it and read the VN.

 
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And if anyone is interested: I dropped the anime by DEEN around Episodes 2-4 and never completely watched the DEEN UBW movie either, just a few scenes here and there.

atleast you didn't read half of that shitty manga adaption.
but hey, atleast it made me know of the Fate Franchise xD, however i wanted nothing to do with it.
Few years later, and now i want to read the VN :D
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Dec 10, 2014 1:24 PM

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Hmm for me

UBW Shirou > Fate Shirou > HF Shirou > Kerry

and for routes

UBW > HF > Fate = FZ
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:38 PM

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CookingPriest said:
Hmm for me

UBW Shirou > Fate Shirou > HF Shirou > Kerry

and for routes

UBW > HF > Fate = FZ
I put Fate Shirou and HF Shirou on equal terms since they are polar opposites, both being extreme.

As for routes I feel the same way.
 
Dec 10, 2014 1:47 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
Oh, so the reason why all the secondaries complain is because they are jealous that the so-called "Harem shounen hentai show for children with generic MC" is ranked higher than the SUPER MATURE URO-APPROVED FULL OF GORE AND DEATH PERFECTLY WRITTEN FLAWLESS SUPERIOR SHOW?




 
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Has this thread cooled down yet?
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
 
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Use the share links provided
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Has this thread cooled down yet?

And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
 
Dec 10, 2014 10:02 PM

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Thanks to everyone who gave his/her opinion and reminding me of what a fan(dom) forum looks like. These 12 hours have truly been educational for meh ^_^.

I guess I will give FZ a go just so I keep can up with the story and skipping the Nasuverse exposition as usual. Maybe I'll read synopses for the Sakura and Tohsaka routes of FSN after.
 
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I guess I will give FZ a go just so I keep can up with the story and skipping the Nasuverse exposition as usual.

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madeener said:
These 12 hours have truly been educational for meh ^_^.


Have they, now?

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I guess I will give FZ a go just so I keep can up with the story and skipping the Nasuverse exposition as usual.


The enlightenment is truly blinding.
 
Dec 10, 2014 10:24 PM

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madeener said:
Thanks to everyone who gave his/her opinion and reminding me of what a fan(dom) forum looks like. These 12 hours have truly been educational for meh ^_^.

I guess I will give FZ a go just so I keep can up with the story and skipping the Nasuverse exposition as usual. Maybe I'll read synopses for the Sakura and Tohsaka routes of FSN after.


Wait... so you didn't even watch the current UBW anime and instead only played through half of Fate route (which is generally considered the weakest part of the whole VN) and the absolutely shitty 2006 adaption by studio DEEN that turned anyone not called Saber (and maybe Archer) into a background character?

I am speechless...

for reference: I dropped the F/sn anime from 2006 at EP3 (and until today never continued with it, aside from watching some scenes to laught about it), so it's not like people here defend anything Fate/ related merely due to the label.
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Dec 10, 2014 10:32 PM

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Bait of Babylon is certainly active all over this thread and apparently continues to skewer victims.
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Grey-Zone said:
madeener said:
Thanks to everyone who gave his/her opinion and reminding me of what a fan(dom) forum looks like. These 12 hours have truly been educational for meh ^_^.

I guess I will give FZ a go just so I keep can up with the story and skipping the Nasuverse exposition as usual. Maybe I'll read synopses for the Sakura and Tohsaka routes of FSN after.


Wait... so you didn't even watch the current UBW anime and instead only played through half of Fate route (which is generally considered the weakest part of the whole VN) and the absolutely shitty 2006 adaption by studio DEEN that turned anyone not called Saber (and maybe Archer) into a background character?

I am speechless...

for reference: I dropped the F/sn anime from 2006 at EP3 (and until today never continued with it, aside from watching some scenes to laught about it), so it's not like people here defend anything Fate/ related merely due to the label.


At this point, I think he's just having fun teasing you guys.


 
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Bait thread and seven pages in around half a day.

Why am I not surprised?
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Dec 10, 2014 11:50 PM

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Yeah, that raises flag to me as well, considering that line is far more in depth in the VN and makes perfect sense.
Only that?

Your Priest senses are down.


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Dec 10, 2014 11:52 PM

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I think... I think we should let these threads die after the first 10 replies. They are almost never worth it.
 
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Can't you VN readers just accept it's slow at the beginning. In the VN, it's reasonably slow, seeing as it's in a VN setting, which is naturally slow anyway. An anime changes that, tho. And I, a VN reader, have already said I feel the pacing slow, because it is. But non-VN readers don't know that it'll pick up the pace ~.~

Tl;dr: Lala-chan says stop bullying the poor anime-only-ers
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But bullying is fun!
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Dec 10, 2014 11:59 PM

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Can't you VN readers just accept it's slow at the beginning. In the VN, it's reasonably slow, seeing as it's in a VN setting, which is naturally slow anyway. An anime changes that, tho. And I, a VN reader, have already said I feel the pacing slow, because it is. But non-VN readers don't know that it'll pick up the pace ~.~

Tl;dr: Lala-chan says stop bullying the poor anime-only-ers


Wait? Who has to accept what now?

What-chu going on about Lala?
 
Dec 11, 2014 12:01 AM

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mira-lala said:
Can't you VN readers just accept it's slow at the beginning. In the VN, it's reasonably slow, seeing as it's in a VN setting, which is naturally slow anyway. An anime changes that, tho. And I, a VN reader, have already said I feel the pacing slow, because it is. But non-VN readers don't know that it'll pick up the pace ~.~

Tl;dr: Lala-chan says stop bullying the poor anime-only-ers


I didn't read every post, so I can't say for sure, but I don't think anybody has denied that UBW starts slow and then picks up later.

Most of the time the arguments start when people say UBW is slow compared to F/Z, which is also slow at the beginning and picks up later.
 
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ANGRY2011 said:
I think... I think we should let these threads die after the first 10 replies. They are almost never worth it.


Everyone is aware these things are rarely ever worth the time, but as priests they are compelled to correct the sins that are brought upon them.
 
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mira-lala said:
Can't you VN readers just accept it's slow at the beginning. In the VN, it's reasonably slow, seeing as it's in a VN setting, which is naturally slow anyway. An anime changes that, tho. And I, a VN reader, have already said I feel the pacing slow, because it is. But non-VN readers don't know that it'll pick up the pace ~.~

Tl;dr: Lala-chan says stop bullying the poor anime-only-ers


Wait? Who has to accept what now?

What-chu going on about Lala?


ANGRY2011 said:
mira-lala said:
Can't you VN readers just accept it's slow at the beginning. In the VN, it's reasonably slow, seeing as it's in a VN setting, which is naturally slow anyway. An anime changes that, tho. And I, a VN reader, have already said I feel the pacing slow, because it is. But non-VN readers don't know that it'll pick up the pace ~.~

Tl;dr: Lala-chan says stop bullying the poor anime-only-ers


I didn't read every post, so I can't say for sure, but I don't think anybody has denied that UBW starts slow and then picks up later.

Most of the time the arguments start when people say UBW is slow compared to F/Z, which is also slow at the beginning and picks up later.


Meh, just felt like saying something =3
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CookingPriest said:
Hmm for me

UBW Shirou > Fate Shirou > HF Shirou > Kerry

and for routes

UBW > HF > Fate = FZ


UBWShirou = FateShirou >>>> HFShirou

UBW > Fate = HF.
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mira-lala said:
CookingPriest said:
Hmm for me

UBW Shirou > Fate Shirou > HF Shirou > Kerry

and for routes

UBW > HF > Fate = FZ


UBWShirou = FateShirou >>>> HFShirou

UBW > Fate = HF.


Hmmmmmmmm.

UBWShirou > ZeroKerry = HFShirou > Fate Shirou

UBW > HF >>> Fate

Zero... uh... I dunno man. It is too different to fit into a direct comparison to me.
 
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Fate/Zero is definitely a must see, the animation quality is identical to the Unlimited Blade Works, and there were very well fleshed out characters (glances at Caster & Gilgamesh) that add a lot of dark themes to it.
 
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This thread kind of exemplifies why the whole Fate thing is kind of nauseating to me at least when it comes to the fanbase which is a shame cause the shows are fairly decent stuff for Visual Novel adaptation fare which I'm so very much not normally into. You wouldn't know it was supposed to be enjoyable or interesting though talking to the fanbase.
 
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Both Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero are equally bad so I'd suggest not watching Fate/Zero either. Childish ideals, underdeveloped cast, plot conveniences made for characters to escape fatal encounters, shoehorned in tragic backstories, an unnecessary ending made to tie into a porn game, a pompous resolution that tries to appear more meaningful than it actually is, etc...

Just skip it all.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
This thread kind of exemplifies why the whole Fate thing is kind of nauseating to me at least when it comes to the fanbase which is a shame cause the shows are fairly decent stuff for Visual Novel adaptation fare which I'm so very much not normally into. You wouldn't know it was supposed to be enjoyable or interesting though talking to the fanbase.


This thread is a bait made by someone who is clearly not a fan. "People die when they are killed" is something that came out of an out of the context translation of the DEEN anime. It's not in the VN, yet the OP claims to have read the VN.

The post above is bait too but at least it's trying to do it in a humorous way, which is fine.
 
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