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Dec 8, 2014 11:34 PM

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Maerow said:
Definitely not for me.

But I like the art.
took you 9 episodes to figure that out?
 
Dec 8, 2014 11:49 PM

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No, don't kill Jeanne or Amira :(
Great episode as usual. The art and animation is so amazing *^* I really like how the story is progressing. This series is definitely one of my favourites of this season.
5/5
 
Dec 9, 2014 1:10 AM

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Oh, Jeanne can't escape the fire eh? And boy that forest damn. Fantastic.
 
Dec 9, 2014 2:22 AM

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Wow ... The art so detailed. EYEGASM !!

Favaro kill Amira ?? Not gonna happen, I swear.

Rita VS ... ?? I'm exciting for this.

And, poor Jeanne T_T
 
Dec 9, 2014 2:36 AM

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Amira's face when she says "Sorry. I can't" is just too adorable. I like her a lot.
 
Dec 9, 2014 3:22 AM

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Wow. It's still interesting as ever. Too bad everything
was forced into only 12 episodes. Grr hate that -.-
 
Dec 9, 2014 3:34 AM

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Seems like the score has dropped slightly.
 
Dec 9, 2014 3:34 AM

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Maerow said:
Sourire said:
took you 9 episodes to figure that out?


Well, I liked it until now, but this episode was really bad (and full of QUALITY)

In contrast, this was one of my favourite episodes. Every episode is awesome anyway.

robis798 said:
Seems like the score has dropped slightly.

;u;
 
Dec 9, 2014 5:22 AM

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I knew it. I knew at some point someone will say that to stop the revival of Bahamut, Amira should be killed. Although, it looks like he won't do it probably because of some ridiculous reason.

Jeanne will be burned in a stake and the people don't like it. I don't like it either. That demon who tempted her has some scheme like the other demons do. She should be saved by either angels or Lavalley.
 
Dec 9, 2014 6:27 AM

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Another great episode. Anime's going with a full head of steam and I'm guessing the ending'll be pretty good too. Can't wait for it.
 
Dec 9, 2014 9:02 AM

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robis798 said:
Seems like the score has dropped slightly.
rated by 9.5K people out of 30K watching
 
Dec 9, 2014 9:08 AM

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Sourire said:
robis798 said:
Seems like the score has dropped slightly.
rated by 9.5K people out of 30K watching


Just a small observation.
 
Dec 9, 2014 9:22 AM
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Why the name of Jeanne d'arc is fated to end up burned ? Let's accept that gods are busy now. Gabriel is still in Heaven , why she doesn't do something ?hmmm cruel world truly
Favaro really has a big mouth , whenever he open it he get screwed !
Shitty king how dare you treat and torture Jeanne like that ?
Rita was acting like a dog .lol
Big war about to happen for the sake of the key. Mainwhile Amira herself is wandering to find her mother not giving a shit about them .
 
Dec 9, 2014 9:27 AM

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robis798 said:
Sourire said:
rated by 9.5K people out of 30K watching


Just a small observation.

Most people just give their rating when the series has ended (very understandable). We'll see where this goes then.
 
Dec 9, 2014 10:06 AM

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Where did Cerberus disappear to though?

Concerning the score: 7-8 seems like a sensible score to me. It can stay where it is right now imo.
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Dec 9, 2014 10:33 AM

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So, will FAVAROOOOOOO kill Amira?
 
Dec 9, 2014 10:41 AM

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robis798 said:
Sourire said:
rated by 9.5K people out of 30K watching


Just a small observation.

Usually an underrated series will go way up in rating after it concludes. People who follow the series through to the end will likely give a higher rating than those who only watched a few episodes. Off the top of my head, Sidonia went from like a 7.6 to an 8.2 (it's dropped a bit since then) and Shinsekai Yori went from a 7.5 to an 8.5.

Obviously, it will depend on whether the ending is good or not.

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Where did Cerberus disappear to though?

Concerning the score: 7-8 seems like a sensible score to me. It can stay where it is right now imo.


Absolutely not, considering all the shows rated a high 7 or low 8 that Bahamut is objectively better than.

Yes, it is possible to have a bad opinion. Many people have fucking terrible, shit tier opinions when it comes to anime (or anything in general really).
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Dec 9, 2014 11:49 AM

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FestinaLente said:
Wow. It's still interesting as ever. Too bad everything
was forced into only 12 episodes. Grr hate that -.-

IMO, the pacing is perfect for a 12 episode series and it doesn't feel rushed at all.

I just want a second season.



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Dec 9, 2014 12:24 PM

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ex_necross said:
Absolutely not, considering all the shows rated a high 7 or low 8 that Bahamut is objectively better than.

By that logic I would have to rate SnB a 9 because Fairy Tail has gotten a 8.47. Sorry, I am not operating like that.. I try to judge everything without comparing it to other anime and especially without looking at the scores on this website. 7-8 is a good score. What's the problem? I honestly don't see the things which make this anime outstanding and why it should deserve a 9+. But what would I know.. I didn't watch that much anime yet..
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Yes, it is possible to have a bad opinion. Many people have fucking terrible, shit tier opinions when it comes to anime (or anything in general really).

Very true, so what's your point?
 
Dec 9, 2014 1:56 PM

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Maybe Fava will use Barb of Bahamut to release the key in Amira. Not killing her but saving her. Then destroy the key with Bahamut at the same time.

FAVARO SAVE AMIRA T_______T
 
Dec 9, 2014 2:42 PM

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I was a little bit lost as to what was going on this episode......then I realized that I forgot to watch episode 8......gg me.
 
Dec 9, 2014 8:23 PM

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That art, did you see that forest? And that freaking dragon?! Eyegasmic

Great plot progression, i wonder if this will get a second season...
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Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain.

We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us
 
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nah Favaro will not kill Amira
 
Dec 9, 2014 10:45 PM

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No0nePB said:
ex_necross said:
Absolutely not, considering all the shows rated a high 7 or low 8 that Bahamut is objectively better than.

By that logic I would have to rate SnB a 9 because Fairy Tail has gotten a 8.47. Sorry, I am not operating like that.. I try to judge everything without comparing it to other anime and especially without looking at the scores on this website. 7-8 is a good score. What's the problem? I honestly don't see the things which make this anime outstanding and why it should deserve a 9+. But what would I know.. I didn't watch that much anime yet..
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Yes, it is possible to have a bad opinion. Many people have fucking terrible, shit tier opinions when it comes to anime (or anything in general really).

Very true, so what's your point?


If you don't consider other anime that have gotten the same (or better) rating as the one in question, then your ratings are a bit flawed. If one anime is objectively better than another one yet shares the same rating, then there's something wrong.

Bahamut belongs with other mid to low-mid 8's, partly based on what else belongs there.
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:04 AM

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No0nePB said:
I honestly don't see the things which make this anime outstanding and why it should deserve a 9+. But what would I know.. I didn't watch that much anime yet..
Well as long as you understand ;)
 
Dec 10, 2014 12:16 AM

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Now THIS is fantasy.
 
Dec 10, 2014 4:44 AM

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ex_necross said:

1. If you don't consider other anime that have gotten the same (or better) rating as the one in question, then your ratings are a bit flawed. 2. If one anime is objectively better than another one yet shares the same rating, then there's something wrong.

1. I know, that's why I wrote: "I try to judge". It's not that I completely disregard other anime when I try to give a score, but it's definitely not a highly important criterion.
2. Agreed.
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No0nePB said:
I honestly don't see the things which make this anime outstanding and why it should deserve a 9+. But what would I know.. I didn't watch that much anime yet..
Well as long as you understand ;)

I don't mean "outstanding" as in "outstanding in this anime season", but rather "outstanding" in terms of quality. There are elements like animation, character interactions and an "original"(at least when comparing Favaro to other MPs of today's anime) main protagonist which are certainly outstanding to many people. And I agree with that notion. But the anime overall? Not so sure..

Other than that, it's too early to make a final judgement anyway. There are still three episodes to go.

Man, if Favaro kills Amira, I would gladly give this at least a 9/10 - as long as everything is consistent ofc.

I just noticed.. How is Favaro even supposed to kill Amira? Angels and demons can't be killed by humans, can they? That includes demon-angel-hybrids as well, right? Hmm, maybe Favaro's tail might be the answer..
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No0nePB said:
ex_necross said:

1. If you don't consider other anime that have gotten the same (or better) rating as the one in question, then your ratings are a bit flawed. 2. If one anime is objectively better than another one yet shares the same rating, then there's something wrong.

1. I know, that's why I wrote: "I try to judge". It's not that I completely disregard other anime when I try to give a score, but it's definitely not a highly important criterion.
2. Agreed.
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Well as long as you understand ;)

I don't mean "outstanding" as in "outstanding in this anime season", but rather "outstanding" in terms of quality. There are elements like animation, character interactions and an "original"(at least when comparing Favaro to other MPs of today's anime) main protagonist which are certainly outstanding to many people. And I agree with that notion. But the anime overall? Not so sure..

Other than that, it's too early to make a final judgement anyway. There are still three episodes to go.

Man, if Favaro kills Amira, I would gladly give this at least a 9/10 - as long as everything is consistent ofc.

I just noticed.. How is Favaro even supposed to kill Amira? Angels and demons can't be killed by humans, can they? That includes demon-angel-hybrids as well, right? Hmm, maybe Favaro's tail might be the answer..


Well it's weird, you'd think that the more anime you watch, the worse your "favorite" anime start to seem. It's actually the opposite, the more anime you watch, the more it reinforces your opinion that the anime you thought were the best are actually the best. Anime get shittier as you watch more, not better.

People always say "you only think that anime is good because you haven't watched many", yet the more you watch the better and better it seems. I hate to say it but there really aren't that many "great" anime out there. I've only watched <200 and I'm already starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
 
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^I cant agree to that, all the shows that were once my favorites back when i started anime are long gone form the spotlight and only a handful of them even hold a 7+ score from me anymore, tastes change and the more you see the more critical you become on what you truly find good or bad.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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JizzyHitler said:
^I cant agree to that, all the shows that were once my favorites back when i started anime are long gone form the spotlight and only a handful of them even hold a 7+ score from me anymore, tastes change and the more you see the more critical you become on what you truly find good or bad.


Opposite for me, some of the earliest anime I watched barring Pokemon and Yugioh (70s-80s Gundam, Elfen Lied, Berserk, Monster, Evangelion, Record of Lodoss War, etc) have only proven to be stronger after watching more anime. I keep comparing new anime I watch such as RahXephon (which is extremely similar to Eva) and think "Man, I wish I was just watching Evangelion" or Claymore vs Berserk I think "This is like a weaker version of Berserk", and the list goes on and on.

Maybe I just watched the best shit from the start and am now cursed to mediocrity, but yeah. The more anime I watch, the more I realize that my favorites are just so much better than anything else. It's not nostalgia either, I rewatch the best anime frequently. I've actually upped the score on a lot of them, with a few exceptions.

Hell, even shit like the first DIGIMON movie actually blows a lot of anime I'm watching out of the water, no joke. It's kind of sad really.

I guess if I watched something like Naruto or DBZ first I would realize how shitty they were as I watch more anime, but luckily I never got into them.
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elefen lied was actually my favorite show originally, now its one of the lowest rated shows on my list, well the anime is, the manga is quite decent and way less retarded than the rushed finale the anime took that makes the series such a travesty now upon recollection. But still the point is i took my nostalgia glasses off and started judging things much more critically to determine what i truly like, it just happened that alot of my previous favorites ended up not holding their ground too well.

I didnt start with mediocrity, i just accepted my changing tastes and adapted to them as they come, there is still some good shit from when i began watching but i watch way more good things now that i take risks in what i watch.
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Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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JizzyHitler said:
elefen lied was actually my favorite show originally, now its one of the lowest rated shows on my list, well the anime is, the manga is quite decent and way less retarded than the rushed finale the anime took that makes the series such a travesty now upon recollection. But still the point is i took my nostalgia glasses off and started judging things much more critically to determine what i truly like, it just happened that alot of my previous favorites ended up not holding their ground too well.

I didnt start with mediocrity, i just accepted my changing tastes and adapted to them as they come, there is still some good shit from when i began watching but i watch way more good things now that i take risks in what i watch.


Well I mean if your taste changed then that is a personal thing, not really related to the quality of anime. My taste has more or less not changed, I always loved psychological and mature anime and that's still how I am today, evident by my favorites being NGE, Texhnolyze, Lain, Monster, Jin-Rou etc. Elfen lied was one of the better anime I had seen back when the amount of anime I'd seen was <30, and it still holds strong after watching all of the "must see" anime out there. I did drop Elfen Lied from a 10 to a 9 after watching again and realizing how much haremshit and moeshit it had, but other than that it's still one of the better anime out there.

But there's no accounting for taste (unless it's shit taste), so if your personal taste changed then there's no point trying to make sense of it. I wouldn't say that has anything to do with the actual anime though.

I do take risks though, right now I am watching freaking Romeo x Juliet, the furthest thing from my usual taste possible. It's ok, nothing special. I guess the only reason I'm sticking with it is the medieval high fantasy setting. The only thing I absolutely refuse to watch is moe, harem, and pure school anime. I've yet to be able to finish a single episode of one of those.
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Dec 11, 2014 8:29 AM

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Wow this anime just keeps getting better! Favaro has a huge decision to make and that alternative world was beautiful, I wish they showed more scenes in it before they want back though.
 
Dec 11, 2014 9:32 PM

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No0nePB said:
ex_necross said:

1. If you don't consider other anime that have gotten the same (or better) rating as the one in question, then your ratings are a bit flawed. 2. If one anime is objectively better than another one yet shares the same rating, then there's something wrong.

1. I know, that's why I wrote: "I try to judge". It's not that I completely disregard other anime when I try to give a score, but it's definitely not a highly important criterion.
2. Agreed.
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Well as long as you understand ;)

I don't mean "outstanding" as in "outstanding in this anime season", but rather "outstanding" in terms of quality. There are elements like animation, character interactions and an "original"(at least when comparing Favaro to other MPs of today's anime) main protagonist which are certainly outstanding to many people. And I agree with that notion. But the anime overall? Not so sure..

Other than that, it's too early to make a final judgement anyway. There are still three episodes to go.

Man, if Favaro kills Amira, I would gladly give this at least a 9/10 - as long as everything is consistent ofc.

I just noticed.. How is Favaro even supposed to kill Amira? Angels and demons can't be killed by humans, can they? That includes demon-angel-hybrids as well, right? Hmm, maybe Favaro's tail might be the answer..


I hope your joking when you say you will give this show a 9/10 if Favaro kills Amira... that completely contradicts your analysis on what qualities make an outstanding anime, or what makes it worthy to get a 9/10.
*insert cringey anime reference here*
 
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BlissX said:
No0nePB said:

1. I know, that's why I wrote: "I try to judge". It's not that I completely disregard other anime when I try to give a score, but it's definitely not a highly important criterion.
2. Agreed.

I don't mean "outstanding" as in "outstanding in this anime season", but rather "outstanding" in terms of quality. There are elements like animation, character interactions and an "original"(at least when comparing Favaro to other MPs of today's anime) main protagonist which are certainly outstanding to many people. And I agree with that notion. But the anime overall? Not so sure..

Other than that, it's too early to make a final judgement anyway. There are still three episodes to go.

Man, if Favaro kills Amira, I would gladly give this at least a 9/10 - as long as everything is consistent ofc.

I just noticed.. How is Favaro even supposed to kill Amira? Angels and demons can't be killed by humans, can they? That includes demon-angel-hybrids as well, right? Hmm, maybe Favaro's tail might be the answer..


I hope your joking when you say you will give this show a 9/10 if Favaro kills Amira... that completely contradicts your analysis on what qualities make an outstanding anime, or what makes it worthy to get a 9/10.


Honestly I wouldn't mind if he actually had the balls to do it, but we all know it won't happen. And if it does happen, all the bleeding-hearts will downrate this into oblivion.
 
Dec 11, 2014 10:51 PM
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If Jeanne drinks that shit it'll make no sense.

Someone chosen by the gods themselves for her skill in combat, mental prowess, charisma, purity of heart, and determination would cave after a day in jail and drink some shady tonic offered to her by her most hated foe? Absolutely not.
 
Dec 12, 2014 8:06 AM

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Episode in which the narrative shows events already planned or expected, nevertheless proves very usable and fun at times.
The designs are still discrete level and the scenes they also well done and they help to make it even more engaging the facts narrated.
I hope that Jeanne of Arc will not remain a secondary character but has a much more central role in the story.
Favaro who knows what you will make of the claw of Bahamut, a sword or a spear?
 
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SO EXCITED FOR NEXT EPISODE!!! I know he won't, but I want Favaro to kill Amira haha, also Rita is in fuckin' trouble.
 
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This is the kickstarter episode for me, i onlly felt the progression of the series when they came to "anartea" was it? The few episodes before doesn't felt too exciting.

Amazing art as usual,its great now that character development for kaisar are developed(damn he felt stupid back then,but i like him the way he is now), now for favaro's development(he.was an interesting character, just he doesn't have too much developmenf per say), Rita?!? I hope she's safe, im hoping Jeanne is safe and if she turns into a demon becomes the vassal of satan


On a side note,i've a funny feeling both favaro and kaisar are gonna "fuse" and then become both the holy knight, OOORRRRR Favaro becomes rhe holy knight and KAISAR becomes the vassal of zeus.(but im pretty sure Amira is the "hero")
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Wow, this is the first episode that I did not enjoy. So much exposition & it was handled poorly. Especially the part where Favaro & friends suddenly got transferred to another dimension & met the dragon. The dragon said it was fate that guide them to the dragon's place, I say it was because the writer said so. It came out of nowhere.

After that episode, I am pretty certain the ending will be rushed & anticlimatic, just like Chaika. I hope I am wrong.
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Dec 15, 2014 6:52 AM

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Liked it
 
Dec 16, 2014 6:44 AM

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Damn those forest visuals *v*
 
Dec 16, 2014 8:07 AM

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maybe in this alternate world, Jean will not die burning

that old dragon is so evil, asking Favaro to kill a 5 year old...
 
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The preview killed me. Thanks lol
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Fingers crossed that Jeanne won't join the dark side.


Rita is our only hope of Jean getting out this. Go zombie loli power.

Favaro really was put on the spot now. Is there really no way to take the key out of her? I mean if it means taking her life then it would have been better if she stayed there.
 
Dec 21, 2014 5:45 PM

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Episodes keep getting better and better, the graphics here were just spendid!

Let's prepare ourselves for some character development with Favaro
 
Dec 21, 2014 11:00 PM

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love the dragon's animation.
lots explained
Fava thinking to kill or not to kill amira
 
Dec 26, 2014 6:26 AM

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Bacchus has arrived at the capital, Rita got caught by Martinet.. A weird dragon appeared and caused chaos in the mind of Favaro. The animation was really great in this episode.

WE still do not know the role of Bacchus, Martinet, Beelzebub and Lucifer.. Will they be able to clearly wrap up the show without leaving no stone unturned or will they rush the fuck outta it?
 
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Jeanne being set up for the murder. Arghh.
Awesome episode, as usual.
 
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That was a nice dragon. A bit too many character to care about all of them
 
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