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Nov 30, 2014 3:47 AM
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Lol, the plants.

Seems like Yuuji and Makina are traveling together now since she has been marked as a target for assassination. Too bad for the guys trying to go after them. It looks like Yuuji prepared traps to counter. Ha. Found the episode tense with the traps going off and the mind games going on. Can't believe she got shot. Still, it was a happy ending this episode so yeah. I didn't think she would of died from that anyways.
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Nov 30, 2014 5:18 AM
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ok for me they adapted this route much better then the outhers this episode along with the ending was not rushed and they didnt missed too much info. next time it finally angelic howl
Nov 30, 2014 5:22 AM
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yuuji killed the Bitch? = 5-5 @@

very good ep from 8 bit, next week....





Finally....=(
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Nov 30, 2014 5:44 AM
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We are really lucky that Makina route doesnt require nearly as much development like teh other routes. Still not expectin' a good episode though.

Like expected: Makina route only 2 episodes. I still dont believe that we'll get 4 episodes for Angelic Howl now.

Edit: Kiyoka killed? :o Dat doesnt sound dat bad lol
sanleiNov 30, 2014 5:47 AM
Nov 30, 2014 5:53 AM
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sanlei said:
We are really lucky that Makina route doesnt require nearly as much development like teh other routes. Still not expectin' a good episode though.

Like expected: Makina route only 2 episodes. I still dont believe that we'll get 4 episodes for Angelic Howl now.

Edit: Kiyoka killed? :o Dat doesnt sound bad lol


yes yuuji did it @@

and I think you need to rewatch the first ep @@ remember the end of ep? the order of girls = Quality of adaptation

so

Amane
Michiru
Makina
Sachi
Yumiko

poor Yumiko fans....XD
Nov 30, 2014 6:08 AM
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amasj1414 said:
sanlei said:
We are really lucky that Makina route doesnt require nearly as much development like teh other routes. Still not expectin' a good episode though.

Like expected: Makina route only 2 episodes. I still dont believe that we'll get 4 episodes for Angelic Howl now.

Edit: Kiyoka killed? :o Dat doesnt sound bad lol


yes yuuji did it @@

and I think you need to rewatch the first ep @@ remember the end of ep? the order of girls = Quality of adaptation

so

Amane
Michiru
Makina
Sachi
Yumiko

poor Yumiko fans....XD

I would prefer for once teh
way of dealin' with her though xD Only time i thought, that this threatment would be a good choice. But yeah there was never a chance we see dat lol So i'm fine with this decision.

(I dont agree with ya on teh order though: I couldnt enjoy teh chiruchiru route, it was just way to rushed. Also Sachi got worse than Yumiko. Her route was moar faithful, but honestly so simplified and destroyed with that fetish, so it wasnt one bit enjoyable like Yumiko Original, which was just hilariously bad lol. )
Nov 30, 2014 6:26 AM
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All right, next Amane's route..I am really worried about how Angelic Howl will be adapted, but there are 4 episodes which is kinda hopeful.
Nov 30, 2014 6:26 AM
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sanlei said:
amasj1414 said:


yes yuuji did it @@

and I think you need to rewatch the first ep @@ remember the end of ep? the order of girls = Quality of adaptation

so

Amane
Michiru
Makina
Sachi
Yumiko

poor Yumiko fans....XD

I would prefer for once teh
way of dealin' with her though xD Only time i thought, that this threatment would be a good choice. But yeah there was never a chance we see dat lol So i'm fine with this decision.

(I dont agree with ya on teh order though: I couldnt enjoy teh chiruchiru route, it was just way to rushed. Also Sachi got worse than Yumiko. Her route was moar faithful, but honestly so simplified and destroyed with that fetish, so it wasnt one bit enjoyable like Yumiko Original, which was just hilariously bad lol. )
i glad they didnt rushed this route unlike the outhers and the ending choice was good for me
Nov 30, 2014 9:37 AM
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All right, next Amane's route..I am really worried about how Angelic Howl will be adapted, but there are 4 episodes which is kinda hopeful.

These four episodes are not just for Amane. Amane will get two episodes. Other two will be about Yuuji himself and his decisions. Maybe the final choice of the girl he will end up with. It is an anime so it will have original ending. I bet these two episodes will be about Yumiko and Yuuji.
Nov 30, 2014 10:45 AM

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I was so happy when he murdered her mother, lol. I thought that might be where it went early on but figured it was a long shot. Anyone know what the organ Makina's sister needed was or what happened with that if anything, or was it dropped?
Nov 30, 2014 10:46 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.

I think it applies to VNs too, so all complaining people please , please stop.
Yeah, it is rushed as hell, but for this amount of time it is not bad at all!
rsc-plNov 30, 2014 11:55 AM
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Nov 30, 2014 10:50 AM

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So many stuff happened yet it wasn't bad at all!

Makina threatening to tell the corruption of Irisu in order to keep her sister safe! Makina's tantrum on the wall!

Escaping undetected like that was pretty amazing, using the freezer so they can't be tracked!

To be able to choke a guy like that! Makina getting shot and beaten up like that :O
Yuuji having have to give up Makina to get her to the hospital. Didn't expect Yuuji to kill the Irisu's president just like that!

JB's interaction with Yuuji was pretty nice.
Nov 30, 2014 10:53 AM

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YES!!! HE KILLED THE BITCH AND CAME OUT ALIVE!! Even better than the good end XD The few scenes she was shown in was enough to make me hate her all over again. F***N BITCH is one of the few that reached legendary status for me. I have never hated someone so much :P Too bad we didn't see her begging like a dog but oh well.

I don't care how rushed this was just from that :P

A bit sad we didn't get the conversation between Makina and her dad on death doors. That was really feelz inducing imo T^T

And what's with the start? Did they just imply H? ^^;
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It's time... the Angelic Howl. Though most people are worrying like bitches that they might butcher Angelic Howl but to me, that's the least possible that it will be butchered.

Anyway, as for this episode, Yuuji killed Makina's mom... and yet he didn't turn into a "garbage". lol. At least 8bit did something right.
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Nov 30, 2014 10:55 AM

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Between this and the Stand off episode (Yumiko arc), this Anime/VN sure is full of surprise.
Nov 30, 2014 11:10 AM

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Here we rush again.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:12 AM

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Well, this became a lot more violent than I had expected. I really didn't think Yuuji would kill the Irisu president, but when it came down to it, the look on his face was all the confirmation needed. And just how overpowered is he? After all, taking in an entire organisation and winning, including seemingly defeating at least 10 men (probably professionals as well) in regular combat is just insane.

Can't wait for next week when I finally get to see Angelic Howl. Here's hoping it lives up to the hype I seem to notice for it around here.
Nov 30, 2014 11:12 AM

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"Guarantee my sister's safety or I'll expose your past."

Is this girl stupid or what? Her sister's probably getting the top medical treatment in the country and is probably going to be given further protection from now on regardless, and this is what she calls her mom about.

Let me just say I can't cheer on Yuuji's killing of Makina's mom. They haven't made her do enough wrong to warrant this. It was explained that there are both Makina and Sarina supporters within the family. It was the Makina supporters who tried to kill Sarina. Makina's mom, while wanting her daughter dead only did it out of necessity for the company. She didn't influence the supporters in any way. Even with her dead there are still people within the family who would want Makina or Sarina as the heir. So nothing is solved in the end. Another attempt to kill either of them is still possible.

I can't believe they actually adapted Makina going back for the Apple sapling. It was stupid in the VN and it's stupid here.

Looks like it's time for Angelic Howl. The most overrated part of the game. Bring it on.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:12 AM

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I was hoping for 3 episodes but they did a pretty good job cramming it into 2 episodes, even if there was a lot of jumping between place to place. Yuuji certainly faired better than in the VN.
Angelic Howl starting next week and I doubt that'll receive 4 episodes.
Nov 30, 2014 11:16 AM
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That was disappointing. Not because it was bad, but I felt it could have been better. It lacked time - it felt like these last two episodes could easily have been 4-5.
By the way, I have NOT read the VN (or manga). This is purely my impression of the anime.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:29 AM
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Just started watching the ep, but wowowowow they did it?
Nov 30, 2014 11:30 AM

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Yuuji with that look on his face before shooting Makina's mom. She had it coming to her.
Nov 30, 2014 11:34 AM

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Nice arc though.
(didn't read the vn)
Oh god who are you people?
Nov 30, 2014 11:36 AM

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Now that's what you call a whore of a wife...

Dem Yuuji scars doe...

So Yuuji betrayed his employers to save Makina T.T

Ohooo, so Makina has memorized the documents that her father had and that's one of the reasons they're coming after her life eh... besides her wanting the safety of her lil sister guaranteed or she'll expose the corruption of her family.

Poor Makina... she got shot and beaten T.T

Hell yeah! Yuuji killed Makina's mother hitman style!

Only a few days eh XD.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:39 AM

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If the guy in charge of series composition is a fan of Mega Man, I'm willing to bet his favorite character is Rush. All kidding aside, it must suck to be the guy in charge of cramming an entire visual novel worth of stuff into a single cour of episodes.
Nov 30, 2014 11:43 AM

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Worst episode so far.
Damn, that was horrible. Much worse than what they did to ChiruChiru and Sachi. Not even want to see Angelic Howl now.


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the pacing though
Nov 30, 2014 12:04 PM

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Worst episode so far.
Damn, that was horrible. Much worse than what they did to ChiruChiru and Sachi. Not even want to see Angelic Howl now.

Did you watch episode 6 ?
Imho, this is prolly the most well adapted route so far simply because Makina's route had a lot of pointless scenes. And the ending to tie it up with the next episodes wasn't too bad.
I personally can't wait to see how they handle Angelic Howl. Imo, they will use 3 episodes for Amane's route and use the last episode to adapt the beach scene.
Nov 30, 2014 12:05 PM

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this shows gives no shit about plot and go for the badass route..
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Nov 30, 2014 12:05 PM

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Just started watching the ep, but wowowowow they did it?
Yuuji got to second base with her in the last episode, not really surprising that they wen all the way.
I like how cold-blooded Yuuji is, wasted her mom without any hesitation.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:09 PM

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danae17 said:
All right, next Amane's route..I am really worried about how Angelic Howl will be adapted, but there are 4 episodes which is kinda hopeful.

These four episodes are not just for Amane. Amane will get two episodes. Other two will be about Yuuji himself and his decisions. Maybe the final choice of the girl he will end up with. It is an anime so it will have original ending. I bet these two episodes will be about Yumiko and Yuuji.


holy shit really?? Why is Yumiko kinda the central girl in the anime? It seems kinda weird to me, I can't say I really like her compared to the rest. Anyways, that's kinda disappointing since I had imagined it differently :/
Nov 30, 2014 12:11 PM

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gissellebatista said:
Worst episode so far.
Damn, that was horrible. Much worse than what they did to ChiruChiru and Sachi. Not even want to see Angelic Howl now.


Are u kidding me? This was episode was amazing >__>
Nov 30, 2014 12:16 PM

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So, Makina route done, whose next?
Nov 30, 2014 12:21 PM
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Worst episode so far.
Damn, that was horrible. Much worse than what they did to ChiruChiru and Sachi. Not even want to see Angelic Howl now.


It wasn't that bad ): but i felt like the level was lowered a little bit.
Nov 30, 2014 12:31 PM
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Yuuji and Makina are traveling together.

Yuuji killed Kiyoka.

Happy ending for Makina.
Nov 30, 2014 12:46 PM

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it wasnt that bad in grisaia standars
Nov 30, 2014 12:49 PM

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I'm quite speechless after seein' it. Its not as bad as 8bits handlin' of Chiruchiru route or just uber crap like teh way they adapated Sachi, because Makina route was always way too long for my taste and we have seen teh major stuff of this route. I'm goin' so far to call teh episode just as borin' as teh vn version, neither did pace this particular route well. VN version was way too long and this was way too rushed cut together.

I thought i could at least enjoy teh death of Kiyoka, but nope it felt very wrong in teh anime, even if i'm glad they didnt just leave it like teh crappy copy-pasted "good end".

It would've have been miles better if we had at least one moar episode and if it didnt adapt an altered bad end but an altered Meikyuu after end
. Kiyoka deserves to suffer, not just to die in teh most random way possible. Kajitsu Makina end sucked anyway and this would've been a better way to setup Rakuen.

So nope it failed again for me. I still enjoyed Makina's Tunafish Man Attack though, i give them dat. :)

2/5. Better than Sachi, but not enjoyable imo.

Edit: Also kinda weird to see teh H aftermath lol

Edit2: Also dat Chiara Pantsu :o

Edit3: I dont think i can enjoy Angelic Howl without teh epilogue and 8bit's handlin' but lets see what they got for teh last 4 episodes...
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Worst episode so far.
Damn, that was horrible. Much worse than what they did to ChiruChiru and Sachi. Not even want to see Angelic Howl now.

I hate to say this guys..
I Agree 100 percent.
This episode didn't give an ounce of entertainment.
It wasnt butchered plotwise like Michiru and Yumiko. Sachi too ofc
It wasn't a trainwreck...
But it was simply the worst.
Pointless episode that didn't give me a shred of entertaintning factor.
All it did was to present Makina's ending in a very monotonous script to screen. It was so badly rushed I blinked and half of her ending already progressed. At least the other routes were entertaining because they were trainwrecks. This was even too lazy to be called a trainwreck.
Sigh... I can't believe I don't look forward that much to AH anymore.. with all the rumors it will be 2 episodes. It makes me even less hyped... oh and yeah, yuuji killing makinas mom was so pointless. He just entered, bang, didnt even let her say a sentence. It was uncalled for without any build up... that part really killed yuuji's creditability in the anime.
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YES!!! HE KILLED THE BITCH AND CAME OUT ALIVE!! Even better than the good end XD The few scenes she was shown in was enough to make me hate her all over again. F***N BITCH is one of the few that reached legendary status for me. I have never hated someone so much :P Too bad we didn't see her begging like a dog but oh well.

I don't care how rushed this was just from that :P

A bit sad we didn't get the conversation between Makina and her dad on death doors. That was really feelz inducing imo T^T


And what's with the start? Did they just imply H? ^^;

It's like you read my mind or something :D
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IT FELT SO AWESOME TO SEE HIM SHOOT THAT BITCH XD

BAM*

*Eyes of someone looking at a despicable piece of trash*

BAM BAM BAM***

Nov 30, 2014 1:32 PM

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oh and yeah, yuuji killing makinas mom was so pointless. He just entered, bang, didnt even let her say a sentence. It was uncalled for without any build up... that part really killed yuuji's creditability in the anime.

Yeah dat has to be one of teh worst scenes of teh year lol. It maked sense in teh bad end, but it didnt here.

I knew she was goin' to die thanks to readin' teh thread in advance and i still couldnt believe it. Teh setup is nonexistent lol.

This adaption really loves "random stuff happenin', random people dyin' or suicidin'".
Nov 30, 2014 1:37 PM

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Yyeeah! that damn bitch died! ( ゚Д゚)<!!

I seriously do not understand how Sarina survived that explosion T_T.. That just seems so dumb IMO.
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I feel like they completely removed what made Makina's character so entertaining. The main reason I loved reading her route was because whenever she spoke I knew it would be gold. But without it her route is far less enjoyable. Thats the reason why Makina was my favorite heroine, she was damn entertaining.

Either way, next week we are starting 90% of the reason I have been watching this anime (and by the looks of it, 90% of why 8bit is animating it).
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Nov 30, 2014 2:06 PM

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The kill was so cold it was beautiful
Nov 30, 2014 2:09 PM

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Now who would want to anger Yuuji?He just open the door shot a few rounds then go didn't even hesitate killing that b!tch. Next week Amane route I'll be looking forward to this.
Nov 30, 2014 2:23 PM

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Wonder about that too, wait what was teh question again?

I dont know y, but chiara is honestly teh only character i really can enjoy so far in teh anime version. I didnt like her in teh vn though. Its really weird. :/ It feels like 8bit are portrayin' her in teh best possible ways while not carin' for teh main girls lol (Chiruchiru still has her moments, but really chiara steals teh show, whenever she is on teh screen).
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Great episode 9/10
Nov 30, 2014 2:36 PM
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waaaaaait a minute are they actually squeezing in Meikyuu and Rakuen in the last two eps despite everything? Or am I just misremembering something

...I mean... that one scene... is so much foreshadowing o.o
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waaaaaait a minute are they actually squeezing in Meikyuu and Rakuen in the last two eps despite everything? Or am I just misremembering something

...I mean... that one scene... is so much foreshadowing o.o

That scene where they talk about the professor actually was in Kajitsu.
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Nov 30, 2014 2:58 PM
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Pik3Rob said:
HaXXspetten said:
waaaaaait a minute are they actually squeezing in Meikyuu and Rakuen in the last two eps despite everything? Or am I just misremembering something

...I mean... that one scene... is so much foreshadowing o.o

That scene where they talk about the professor actually was in Kajitsu.
oh was it?

probably wasn't anything you ever really thought too much about while playing it the first time

well we'll see what happens, with the pacing they've gone with throughout this anime I wouldn't say Angelic Howl is gonna get any more than 2 eps either so they'll still have to do something in the remaining last 2 eps if so... which again with the current pacing might be enough to adapt the grand route of the sequels

either that or some weird anime original thingy which could be essentially anything I guess


I just feel it's a bit weird in the way that this adaptation skips out on so incredibly many scenes yet they still included that seemingly irrelevant scene which is only related to the sequels... well idk *shrug* :s
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