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Nov 29, 2014 11:43 AM

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I have to agree on that. She is such an eye candy. Her best stances are just before and after her attacks if you know what I mean. HF will be fun. On the other hand, no one is interested in FZ Rider who is a middle aged man with lots of beard, laughs like a drunkard, probably reeks of alcohol and just happened to had conquered half the world when he lived.
Accomplishments=/=likeable chars.Especially when they are -a bit- delusional hypocrites.


Not when the anime-only viewers don't get to know anything about the FSN Rider. Appears in an episode, dies in a couple of weeks later with less than 5 minutes of screen-time. For those who just watch the anime, she is nothing more than a Tottemo-sekushi-senshi. Until HF, for anime-only viewers, that's the only reason I think they will consider her to be better than FZ Rider. But you have every right to disagree. For me, FSN Rider is better than F/Z Rider. To be honest, most of the servants in FSN are better than those in F/Z except for Saber. I like my pouting saber version more.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:43 AM
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It doesn't make sense to adapt Fate/Zero first.
DEEN had an adaptation of UBW too, so that's just BS.


Not to mention that they say they "Respect" that adaptation and then every.single.interview afterward takes shots at that adaptation.

You know where I could find a transcript of these interviews?
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:45 AM

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Fate was adapted in a form of a TV series but UBW wasn't, it was just a shitty rushed movie.
That doesnt make Fate tv series any less shitty.
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Accomplishments=/=likeable chars.Especially when they are -a bit- delusional hypocrites.


Not when the anime-only viewers don't get to know anything about the FSN Rider. Appears in an episode, dies in a couple of weeks later with less than 5 minutes of screen-time. For those who just watch the anime, she is nothing more than a Tottemo-sekushi-senshi. Until HF, for anime-only viewers, that's the only reason I think they will consider her to be better than FZ Rider. But you have every right to disagree. For me, FSN Rider is better than F/Z Rider. To be honest, most of the servants in FSN are better than those in F/Z except for Saber. I like my pouting saber version better.
I agree.I just point out that this isn't all there is to her.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:46 AM
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Accomplishments=/=likeable chars.Especially when they are -a bit- delusional hypocrites.


Not when the anime-only viewers don't get to know anything about the FSN Rider. Appears in an episode, dies in a couple of weeks later with less than 5 minutes of screen-time. For those who just watch the anime, she is nothing more than a Tottemo-sekushi-senshi. Until HF, for anime-only viewers, that's the only reason I think they will consider her to be better than FZ Rider. But you have every right to disagree. For me, FSN Rider is better than F/Z Rider. To be honest, most of the servants in FSN are better than those in F/Z except for Saber. I like my pouting saber version better.

Well no one actually said you have to like F/SN Rider better, and most of us agree that with just UBW, she's gonna get a lot of shit.
What we said is what we think, that F/SN Rider is better than F/Z Rider, which is of course due to knowledge of HF, so I really wouldn't expect F/SN anime only viewers to have the same feelings.

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Nov 29, 2014 11:49 AM
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Fate was adapted in a form of a TV series but UBW wasn't, it was just a shitty rushed movie.
That doesnt make Fate tv series any less shitty.[/quote]
TBH, the UBW movie was marginally better than the Fate tv series, at least it had (halfway) decent animation (at times) and didn't merge in other routes and anime original nonsense (just cut out 80% of detailed content).
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:53 AM

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Muh precious ride-her is dead. Not amused.

 
Nov 29, 2014 11:56 AM
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TBH, the UBW movie was marginally better than the Fate tv series, at least it had (halfway) decent animation (at times) and didn't merge in other routes and anime original nonsense (just cut out 80% of detailed content).


They removed a lot of the scenes that should be in the route though.

Honestly they were just skipping right to the fight scenes most of the time and half of them ended up making no sense as a result of that.

Fine, fine, they're both shit.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:57 AM

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Why did Caster appear as Rider after she died?

Was it like a philosophical scene about reincarnation or something?
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Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//

Like I said before, most masters and servants who don't get "the exposure they deserve" in one route get a whole lot more exposure in the other routes. It's not unusual for a character to get reasonable exposure in one of the routes, be under the spotlight in another one, and play a much less relevant role in one of them (e.g. they die pretty early, or get badly injured, etc).

This is actually very nice because it keeps things fresh. There's no need to be pitiful since pretty much everyone gets a chance to shine in the novel. If you disregard the existence of the other routes, you'll get the wrong idea about several characters.

Blood Requiem is constantly being sarcastic and impersonating secondaries. A lot of what he says around here is just the likely reaction of secondary.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:58 AM

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Why did Caster appear as Rider after she died?

Was it like a philosophical scene about reincarnation or something?
For Someone's Glory.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:59 AM

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Rin is being such a tsundere in this episode.

Poor Rider, she got killed.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:59 AM
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Why did Caster appear as Rider after she died?

Was it like a philosophical scene about reincarnation or something?
Caster is love, Caster is life.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:00 PM

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Why did Caster appear as Rider after she died?

Was it like a philosophical scene about reincarnation or something?
For Someone's Glory.


Wasn't that
ability?

So that means Caster is
?

Is that why she wants to
so much?
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BloodRequiem said:
CorePriest said:
For Someone's Glory.


Wasn't that
ability?

So that means Caster is
?

Is that why she wants to
so much?


OMG, THIS MAKES SO MUCH S-SENSE *O*
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Nov 29, 2014 12:14 PM
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Rider didn't really deserve the name.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:15 PM

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Rider didn't really deserve the name.

yeah it should officially changed to ride-her.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:15 PM
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Well Rider bit the bullet early in this one. We hardly knew her! Unless of course we're in for a twist later on. The delights of being blisfully ignorant of what happens next.
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Nov 29, 2014 12:17 PM
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:23 PM

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well we got rid of the school bully, im glad cause he is a shitty villain, now we can move on to more interesting stuff
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:24 PM

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Rider didn't really deserve the name.

yeah it should officially changed to ride-her.


I'd Ride her all day.
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
damn it, too late...

Btw in 1) they dont even know why he has healing abilities, so how can they explain it?
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well we got rid of the school bully, im glad cause he is a shitty villain, now we can move on to more interesting stuff

oh the yuetsu I am getting from this post.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:26 PM

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Yeah the lack of monologues is upsetting, but Shirou's facial expressions were done so well it pretty much makes up for any characterization lost.

Loved how they handled the ending with Rin noticing the difference between the two of them.
 
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.
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Nov 29, 2014 12:30 PM

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Everyone agrees that Fate/Zero is better because it doesn't has those cliches.
Only people who never read the novel (and a very small minority from VN readers) agree to this nonsense.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:30 PM

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RIP Rider. This is quite different from the last adaptation, in which I remember [spoiler]rider wasn't killed until later.
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Just want to say Zero Rider will be defeated the moment FSN Rider use one of her Noble Phantasm.
Blame Zero Rider's Magic stats.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:33 PM

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Great episode again. This time is the highlight of my week. Welp, gotta go play more FHA to give Rider the attention she deserves.

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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Shirou doesn't know how powerful servants are at the beginning. Or even what he is in. It's foolish to fight a servant, not dumb. Wait, so you want him to be Lelouche or something??? Realistic people aren't calculating everything.
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
´

Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.
You mean Rider?So it would be logical to stay there with Rin and the girl and get snipped by her?He survived 3 fights(if you call the one with Archer a fight) with Servants and one with Rin due to using the environment and what he could as a weapon.Is that supposed to be luck for you?

Ass shots....Yeah I fap to those all day.....dude seriously?

Harem:try harder.If you dont know what harem means then dont use the word.
 
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Punch shinji.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:34 PM

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JGChaves said:
Everyone agrees that Fate/Zero is better because it doesn't has those cliches.
Only people who never read the novel (and a very small minority from VN readers) agree to this nonsense.


Speaking of which, I wonder if F/SN would have been considered less cliche in 2004.
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:35 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
Only people who never read the novel (and a very small minority from VN readers) agree to this nonsense.


Speaking of which, I wonder if F/SN would have been considered less cliche in 2004.
Fz is cliche as well.Just look at all those edgy MCs and shows with dark atmosphere.
 
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He did not get a theme song.
Rin got one after telling him to move out of the way. And his moving out of the way looked silly-ish.


To be fair, Rin was practically using one of her ultimate abilities then.
 
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Harem undertones, i died there.
 
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So right the next day after his nearly fatal injury (guessing by the amount of blood he lost) he's healed, I'm guessing this is because of [removed] but neither Shirou, Saber nor the show itself explained any of that, someone who doesn't know about that must find his quick recovery ridiculously stupid.

Shirou - "Were you holding back on me today?"
Saber - "No"
Shirou - "You didn't seem as hard on me as you did yesterday"
Saber - "Because your abilities have improved"

Shirou must be a genius to be improving so fast, not genius enough to stop living a normal life as if he's not an untrained mage in a deadly battle royale though.

So... The reason Shirou doesn't have Saber with him invisible all the time is because he doesn't have all that much mana, so why was Rin's Servant not with her?
So much tsundere, dumb choices, high-school romance and a bit of fan-service, the harem undertones... At least there's less bs slice-of-life and we got a death but the act wasn't even animated, disappointed. How is this better than Fate/Zero?


Agreed. How dare the show not explain things to us that we were clearly not supposed to know as of yet? Did they honestly believe that we would be patient enough to wait for our questions to be answered later rather than sooner? It's stupid that we're already 1/3 of the way into the show and they've yet to tell us everything.

It was also definitely stupid of Rin not to have Archer with her. Not allowing him to get close to her ally that he nearly killed and had to be restrained through the use of a command spell, just what was she thinking?

It's a terrible abomination, how different F/SN is compared to its prequel F/Z which was written after it. I expected F/SN to be just like F/Z, an it's an objective crime that it isn't. I wanted more darkness and maturity like F/Z, not some harem with annoying generic shounen protagonists. They also don't give us enough details. Sure this anime is an adaptation of one of three routes in the VN where different information and characters are given different amounts of spotlight and there will also be an adaptation of another route that will provide some of the info this route is lacking in, but it is an objective crime that Ufotable didn't think about cramming all routes into this one 25/26 episode anime.

I watched all nine episodes that have aired thus far expecting an F/Z 2, but clearly it's not a successor nor does it cater to my personal tastes. Therefore, as a result the show is an objective failure and clearly F/Z > F/SN.

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Speaking of which, I wonder if F/SN would have been considered less cliche in 2004.
Fz is cliche as well.Just look at all those edgy MCs and shows with dark atmosphere.


But I never said it wasn't...
 
Nov 29, 2014 12:38 PM
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.

Let's see;
1.Referring to the Lancer fight? Or the Rider one?
If it's the former, he didn't know wtf a servant was so why wouldn't he try to defend his life? Rider? He sensed the whole set up was a trap to get him to use a command seal, and in one of the bad ends of the VN Rider cuts off his arm the moment he does so.
2.He doesn't go about his life like that. He's just confident he'll be safe around other people, which he mostly is. As for putting himself in harms way, that has to do with aspects of his personality that have yet to be touched on. Though at this rate I have a feeling they'll go over your head.
3.Once for Rin. For Rider, huh? She barely appeared to get any fanservice. And I can call a certain someone being nude at one point in Zero fanservice, doesn't mean it's fanservice.
4.Wow, his guardian and mother/older-sister figure hangs around him, and his servant, look at that, what a shock and twist, what a harem.
Saber's a little miffed he's copying someone who's not his own teachers style, she doesn't see it in a romantic light.
Sakura and Rin do, the latter less so, which isn't a harem at all. Besides
 
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.


1. Shirou is not exactly sane and telling more is a huge spoiler
2. It doesn't feel like a fanservice honestly
3. Teacher is his guardian, Sakura is there for reasons stated in HF, Rin is just blushing to everyone
 
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.
You mean Rider?So it would be logical to stay there with Rin and the girl and get snipped by her?He survived 3 fights(if you call the one with Archer a fight) with Servants and one with Rin due to using the environment and what he could as a weapon.Is that supposed to be luck for you?

Ass shots....Yeah I fap to those all day.....dude seriously?

Harem:try harder.If you dont know what harem means then dont use the word.


It would be logical to either go with Rin and support her, seeing as how she's the more experienced mage, or run away with Rin, since he's completely exposed running towards a hidden Servant. But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte. Shirou vs Lancer - he was just running around... Shirou vs Rider - charging forward alone against an unknown enemy.
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Only people who never read the novel (and a very small minority from VN readers) agree to this nonsense.


Speaking of which, I wonder if F/SN would have been considered less cliche in 2004.
In 2004 DEENight didn't exist so yes.
 
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Everyone agrees that Fate/Zero is better because it doesn't has those cliches.

>Everyone agrees
>F/SN ranked higher than F/Z
U mad?


SAO had a high rating when it aired too.
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But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte

Can you be anymore wrong than this?
 
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Why people think Saber has a thing for Shirou in that brief exchange?
I mean who wouldn't be annoyed that you're asked to teach someone only to find out the guy is learning from another?
 
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It would be logical to either go with Rin and support her, seeing as how she's the more experienced mage, or run away with Rin, since he's completely exposed running towards a hidden Servant. But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte. Shirou vs Lancer - he was just running around... Shirou vs Rider - charging forward alone against an unknown enemy.


Are you making up scenes in your head?

1. Rin was immediately treating the student. Shirou wanted to distract the unknown attacker. He had no idea it was a Servant.

2. No he was not. The first scene with him and Lancer was not the fight everyone means. It's when Lancer ambushes Shirou at home and Shirou was doing better than people give him credit for.

3. He never charged forward once he saw Rider, what the hell did you watch?
 
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But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte

Can you be anymore wrong than this?

He already was in calling the anime a harem, when there are basically only 2 girls that like him. And one of them doesn't get screen time this route.
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It would be logical to either go with Rin and support her, seeing as how she's the more experienced mage, or run away with Rin, since he's completely exposed running towards a hidden Servant. But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte. Shirou vs Lancer - he was just running around... Shirou vs Rider - charging forward alone against an unknown enemy.

Yeah, just leave that girl to die.
Or turn their back on a servant and get killed instantly.
Writing isn't Stay Night's forte? Pls.
Shirou vs Lancer? No, really, you expect him to beat Lancer? And he did more than run around; he deflected two of Lancers attacks and blocked his third with an improvised shield.
Shirou Vs Rider: Only option. Can't turn his back, and standing there would allow her to snipe them from afar, which is even worse. And trying to use his command spell would have gotten him killed, as I said before.
 
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.


The dumb choices you mentioned are all purposeful, I'm guessing you haven't figured it out.

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r3birth said:
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You mean Rider?So it would be logical to stay there with Rin and the girl and get snipped by her?He survived 3 fights(if you call the one with Archer a fight) with Servants and one with Rin due to using the environment and what he could as a weapon.Is that supposed to be luck for you?

Ass shots....Yeah I fap to those all day.....dude seriously?

Harem:try harder.If you dont know what harem means then dont use the word.


It would be logical to either go with Rin and support her, seeing as how she's the more experienced mage, or run away with Rin, since he's completely exposed running towards a hidden Servant. But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte. Shirou vs Lancer - he was just running around... Shirou vs Rider - charging forward alone against an unknown enemy.


It LOOKED like that, but really, he was thinking. Hence why most of the VN readers are complaining for the lack of monologues. In the VN, we know what's happening, and that he's calculating what he does.

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Why people think Saber has a thing for Shirou in that brief exchange?
I mean who wouldn't be annoyed that you're asked to teach someone only to find out the guy is learning from another?


-Who said she didn't~?
-Lol, I found that hilariously Tsunderlicious.
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r3birth said:
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You mean Rider?So it would be logical to stay there with Rin and the girl and get snipped by her?He survived 3 fights(if you call the one with Archer a fight) with Servants and one with Rin due to using the environment and what he could as a weapon.Is that supposed to be luck for you?

Ass shots....Yeah I fap to those all day.....dude seriously?

Harem:try harder.If you dont know what harem means then dont use the word.


It would be logical to either go with Rin and support her, seeing as how she's the more experienced mage, or run away with Rin, since he's completely exposed running towards a hidden Servant. But then again the writing isn't Stay Night forte. Shirou vs Lancer - he was just running around... Shirou vs Rider - charging forward alone against an unknown enemy.

So you clearly ignore that there is a girl that needs further treatment OR that running away together would make them easy targets.

He made a weapon out of a poster and defended against his first attack, run away(which is why you criticize the Rider scene),then defended himself again with the poster using a different method.Clearly he was only running around using luck.
I already explained the Rider fight.Common sense and paying attention isnt your forte.
 
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r3birth said:
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Let's see;
1.Yes, because they're keeping the reveal for later and because it was already revealed in the Fate route at this point in the VN. That is also a spoiler and should be in tags. And they already said he has healing abilities, so no, not stupid.
2.There is a reason for it, maybe? He was clearly copying Archers technique, which they said in the episode itself.
3.It's because Saber

4.Because she's confident she doesn't need him? Or that she can summon him in time?
What dumb choices? Fanservice where? Harem undertones where?
Oh no, they didn't show people dying, not enough grimderp and edgy for me, wah wah.
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Dumb choices - So many from the beginning of the show, like Shirou trying to fight a Servant alone, or going about is life as if his life is not in danger, putting himself in harm's way instead of being calculating, etc.

Fanservice - Notice I've written "a bit of fan-service", not flat-out fan-service. This englobes the gratuitous ass-shots of both Rider and Rin.

Harem undertones - the teacher, sakura, rin and saber, all hanging around him. So cringy, sakura always doing the senpai thing, rin always doing the tsundere thing, even saber acted tsundere this episode.


Agreed as well. Shirou was an idiot thinking he could take on a servant alone. It wasn't like that servant would have continued nearly killing other people without someone to intervene in any way they could. You're right that keeps going about his life as if there was no danger.
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