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Nov 29, 2014 10:57 AM
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BloodRequiem said:
Rin was just a plot device to make Shirou look awesome TBH.

All we are missing is "Sasuga Oniisama" and it will be Mahouka all over again.

"I'm used to seeing dead bodies"

I almost cut myself on that edge.

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Just when i tought that this anime couldn't get more shonen-esque

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Nov 29, 2014 11:00 AM

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Lol NTR vibes XD


SHIROU, BEWARE! Caster officially has a Saber fetish, like all her other fans *u* BEEEEEEEWAAAAAAAAAARE!!!!
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Nov 29, 2014 11:00 AM
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i would have really liked to see the whole shirou threatening shinji to kill him but it was obvious they'd take the other choice
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:01 AM

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Twas greatly enjoyed =3


I love sword-style NTR.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:02 AM

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I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:03 AM

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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.


Because she is, not on this route tho, wait for HF
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:04 AM

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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.


Watch the Heavens Feel movie to find out, you have seen NOTHING of FSN Rider.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:05 AM
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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.

Roughly about the level, yeah. Given certain abilities, F/SN Rider has an edge.
Speaking character wise
F/SN Rider>F/Z Rider
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Nov 29, 2014 11:07 AM

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celeminus said:
i would have really liked to see the whole shirou threatening shinji to kill him but it was obvious they'd take the other choice
That's another route.

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I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.
Without many spoilers, FSN Rider could one-shot FZ Rider in a sec.
The char that killed her could kill FZ Rider in the same way as well.

tl;dr
FSN Rider>>>>>>FZ Rider
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:07 AM

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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.


Because thirsty F/SN fans like their fap fodder moe waifu character. It's only because this Rider is a girl.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:08 AM

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NO!!!! Rider TT-TT!!! Damn...now I wish they show the HF movies soon! This is the route that made Rider look weak!!
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:09 AM

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BloodRequiem said:
Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.


Because thirsty F/SN fans like their fap fodder moe waifu character. It's only because this Rider is a girl.
Exactly. I love these kinds of characters. FZ Rider is not my type.
 
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Twas greatly enjoyed =3


I love sword-style NTR.


haha, this =3 Jelly Saber is Tsunderlicious~~~~
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i would have really liked to see the whole shirou threatening shinji to kill him but it was obvious they'd take the other choice


That's another route.


that happened in Fate? damn my memory is messed up, time to reread the novel i guess
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:11 AM
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That's another route.


that happened in Fate? damn my memory is messed up, time to reread the novel i guess

Yup.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:13 AM

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Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
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Nov 29, 2014 11:13 AM

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I caught Rin pouting as usual! So nothing else really mattered. But prior to that I caught Saber pouting! That left an incredible impression on me! For now, I can say this has been a pouting masterpiece. And I mean in a good way. :D
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Nov 29, 2014 11:14 AM

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So the servant who killed Rider must have been either Lancer or

As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:15 AM

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Epicenter said:
I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
If you're talking about F/SN 2006, it's not a Fate route adaptation. It's a general VN adaptation (meaning all routes) but has the shipping from Fate route.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:16 AM

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Epicenter said:
Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
None of BloodRequiem's posts are actually serious. When he's saying something, he means the opposite or is outright telling lies to confuse you (I mean seriously, look at his avatar).

But what everyone else said, UBW is the second route. You didn't even really see her seriously fight, so it's impossible to judge her strength. She shows more stuff in both Fate and Heaven's Feel. The 2006 anime in general more or less follows the Fate route, although it's an amalgamation of all three route.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:16 AM
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Epicenter said:
Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//

>I agreed with BR
You know he's not serious, right?
 
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Epicenter said:
I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
If you're talking about F/SN 2006, it's not a Fate route adaptation. It's a general VN adaptation (meaning all routes) but has the shipping from Fate route.


Which makes it better. You get 3 in one instead of this dragged out show. Plus they had better characterization for Sakura instead of just cooking and saying senpai all the time.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
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Epicenter said:
Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
Well even tho a horrible adaptation, the 2006 FSN at least showed that Rider could wreck Saber without the full use of her Noble Phantasm.Or at least I want to remember that it did.
It's weird that you admit that you dont know much but then agree with BloodRequiem's....post.

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If you're talking about F/SN 2006, it's not a Fate route adaptation. It's a general VN adaptation (meaning all routes) but has the shipping from Fate route.


Which makes it better. You get 3 in one instead of this dragged out show. Plus they had better characterization for Sakura instead of just cooking and saying senpai all the time.
Latex lingerie isnt characterization.
 
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Here, have some Saberly goodness =3



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Nov 29, 2014 11:18 AM

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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.
The really cool thing about Fate/Stay Night having three different routes is that it really emphasizes that war and tactics can swing in wildly different directions at the drop of a hat. It's not just about power levels. Even if you're really strong you can still be assassinated or lead into a fatal trap, or go up against someone suited specifically for fighting you but are otherwise generally weaker. In general, almost every single character only gets to be amazing in a max of two out of the three routes. For example, if FSN Rider and FZ Rider were at full strength and went all out against each, FZ Rider will likely lose simply because he has no defense against a particular fatal technique FSN Rider never got to show in this route.

Strength doesn't mean everything. Just go look at the Servant stats page; Archer is by far one of the weakest Servants in this war statwise, yet he's been one of the most impressive so far.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:18 AM
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Epicenter said:
Alright, alright, I'll wait for the Heaven's feel movie. But based on Fate Zero and UBW Rider of UBW sucks multiple levels compared to Zero's and I agreed with Blood Requiem. I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//

Don't bother, it is shitty.
Too bad no Ufo Fate.
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BotatoPriest said:
If you're talking about F/SN 2006, it's not a Fate route adaptation. It's a general VN adaptation (meaning all routes) but has the shipping from Fate route.


Which makes it better. You get 3 in one instead of this dragged out show. Plus they had better characterization for Sakura instead of just cooking and saying senpai all the time.

BR pls.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:22 AM

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Good stuff, I'm pretty happy how this turned out to be honest. Shirou was pretty awesome here, I liked the PTSD face, and I'm actually kind of glad that
. The Saber summoning scene was pretty cool as well. And, oh wow at Rider's neck twist.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:22 AM

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FSN Rider>>>>>>FZ Rider


I have to agree on that. She is such an eye candy. Her best stances are just before and after her attacks if you know what I mean. HF will be fun. On the other hand, no one is interested in FZ Rider who is a middle aged man with lots of beard, laughs like a drunkard, probably reeks of alcohol and just happened to had conquered half the world when he lived.
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Epicenter said:
I'm still confused as to how someone was implying to me that this Rider was on the level of Rider from Fate Zero last week.
The really cool thing about Fate/Stay Night having three different routes is that it really emphasizes that war and tactics can swing in wildly different directions at the drop of a hat. It's not just about power levels. Even if you're really strong you can still be assassinated or lead into a fatal trap, or go up against someone suited specifically for fighting you but are otherwise generally weaker. In general, almost every single character only gets to be amazing in a max of two out of the three routes. For example, if FSN Rider and FZ Rider were at full strength and went all out against each, FZ Rider will likely lose simply because he has no defense against a particular fatal technique FSN Rider never got to show in this route.

Strength doesn't mean everything. Just go look at the Servant stats page; Archer is by far one of the weakest Servants in this war statwise, yet he's been one of the most impressive so far.

Not when you're Shirou.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:23 AM

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Good stuff, I'm pretty happy how this turned out to be honest. Shirou was pretty awesome here, I liked the PTSD face, and I'm actually kind of glad that
. The Saber summoning scene was pretty cool as well. And, oh wow at Rider's neck twist.
He doesnt use them here in the VN either.He reinforces two chair legs or something....
 
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Epicenter said:
I didn't watch the Fate series though, people shit on it so much I assumed I shouldn't//
If you're talking about F/SN 2006, it's not a Fate route adaptation. It's a general VN adaptation (meaning all routes) but has the shipping from Fate route.



Yes that was what I was speaking of.
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Nov 29, 2014 11:24 AM

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5/5 as always. I'm so satisfied whit Ufotable adaption. Everything going so smooth and how it should be. Perfect adaption so far.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM

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FSN Rider>>>>>>FZ Rider


I have to agree on that. She is such an eye candy. Her best stances are just before and after her attacks if you know what I mean. HF will be fun. On the other hand, no one is interested in FZ Rider who is a middle aged man with lots of beard, laughs like a drunkard, probably reeks of alcohol and just happened to had conquered half the world when he lived.
Accomplishments=/=likeable chars.Especially when they are -a bit- delusional hypocrites.
 
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?
Probably.

Their excuse for not making Fate route doesnt make sense anyway.
 
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The graphics were nice as always and the tension of Caster and her master!


Well I actually thought the 3D skeletons looked a bit on the stupid side, but I guess that's just me.


I actually didn't like that either. Hope they work on it for the BD.
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?

Most likely not, Deen's adaptation was still mainly the Fate route.
 
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?
They plan to give out the Fate route for free for iOS and Android. I wouldn't get high hopes for a Fate adaptation.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:29 AM
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5/5 as always. I'm so satisfied whit Ufotable adaption. Everything going so smooth and how it should be. Perfect adaption so far.

I'm amused at how I literally just posted your avatar pic.
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?

We hope.
But not looking that likely.
 
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So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?

Most likely not, Deen's adaptation was still mainly the Fate route.
Well UBW movie was mostly UBW route as well.

We have already seen in the remake that execution makes a huge difference.
 
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Epicenter said:
So if Fate wasn't the actual Fate route, are they going to be making something for the Fate route like UBW and the Heaven's Feel movie?


As a fan of the VN i would hope so, but the most likely thing is they not adapting Fate route
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:33 AM
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FSN Rider>>>>>>FZ Rider


I have to agree on that. She is such an eye candy. Her best stances are just before and after her attacks if you know what I mean. HF will be fun. On the other hand, no one is interested in FZ Rider who is a middle aged man with lots of beard, laughs like a drunkard, probably reeks of alcohol and just happened to had conquered half the world when he lived.

So? We aren't even comparing historical accomplishments here, but character.
Do you actually know F/SN Rider or are just throwing this out there.
Also not even the British Or Mongol Empires conquered half the world, so I don't know why you think his Empire was that large. Was it impressive? Yes. Half the world? Uuuh no.
 
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Most likely not, Deen's adaptation was still mainly the Fate route.
Well UBW movie was mostly UBW route as well.

We have already seen in the remake that execution makes a huge difference.


They said they respect Deen's adaptation of Fate
It wouldn't make much sense for them to do UBW then HF
And then go back to the "tutorial" route.
 
Nov 29, 2014 11:35 AM
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Well UBW movie was mostly UBW route as well.

We have already seen in the remake that execution makes a huge difference.


They said they respect Deen's adaptation of Fate
It wouldn't make much sense for them to do UBW then HF
And then go back to the "tutorial" route.

It doesn't make sense to adapt Fate/Zero first.
DEEN had an adaptation of UBW too, so that's just BS.
 
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TBH Shirou wouldn't have wasted a command spell if they just made Saber transfer into his school. Tenkousei are so common in Nippon people probably won't even suspect anything. She even looks 12 which is the perfect school age.
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So why dont they respect the movie?Both shows were half assed.

I agree that it wouldnt make sense but I think Epicenter's question was about something else.
 
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They said they respect Deen's adaptation of Fate
It wouldn't make much sense for them to do UBW then HF
And then go back to the "tutorial" route.

It doesn't make sense to adapt Fate/Zero first.
DEEN had an adaptation of UBW too, so that's just BS.


Not to mention that they say they "Respect" that adaptation and then every.single.interview afterward takes shots at that adaptation.
 
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Good stuff, I'm pretty happy how this turned out to be honest. Shirou was pretty awesome here, I liked the PTSD face, and I'm actually kind of glad that
. The Saber summoning scene was pretty cool as well. And, oh wow at Rider's neck twist.
He doesnt use them here in the VN either.He reinforces two chair legs or something....


Ah,yeah, my bad.
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5/5

 
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It doesn't make sense to adapt Fate/Zero first.
DEEN had an adaptation of UBW too, so that's just BS.


Not to mention that they say they "Respect" that adaptation and then every.single.interview afterward takes shots at that adaptation.

Fate Zero is an entirely different story, FSN is 3 routes that complete each other, going from HF back to Fate is awkward. They probably only meant to adapt Fate Zero but seeing it's success decided to do FSN.
Fate was adapted in a form of a TV series but UBW wasn't, it was just a shitty rushed movie.
 
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