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Feb 10, 2008 6:22 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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But hey he should just pick random cards now. 8D
 
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Feb 10, 2008 6:24 PM

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Nah, Kaiji'll survive. He'll do what it takes.



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Feb 10, 2008 7:55 PM

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the bit in the preview with Tonegawa going ":OOOOOOOOOOO" means Kaiji will find a way. I BELIEVE.
 
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Feb 10, 2008 8:04 PM

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Well, he can't get 20 mil now. Probably just going to bet his eye in the next round. But, man, Tonegawa is kicking ass. Kaiji is probably going to have to cheat with both hands to win. If another ep wasn't already called breakdown, this would be it. Super cool.
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Feb 11, 2008 12:05 AM

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'Drill Drill Drill ! heh heh heh ' i m liking the old man :P

Let's see how Kaiji handle the situation next .
 
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Feb 11, 2008 12:19 AM

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Probably he's gonna start winning but then theres a twist and he goes into bigger debt but keeps his ear.


 
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Feb 11, 2008 12:37 AM

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Torisunanohokori said:
Well, he can't get 20 mil now. Probably just going to bet his eye in the next round. But, man, Tonegawa is kicking ass. Kaiji is probably going to have to cheat with both hands to win. If another ep wasn't already called breakdown, this would be it. Super cool.

Who says you can't bet over the 30mm limit?



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Feb 11, 2008 3:59 AM

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Insanely intense episode, and to think all they are really doing is sitting down playing a card game:) I loved how Kaiji's facial expressions were animated in this episode - if his face doesn't scream to you "I'm pretty fucked up right now" I don't know what would...

It was also nice to see one of the nameless black suits caring about what happens to Kaiji :P
 
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TheWestExit said:
Torisunanohokori said:
Well, he can't get 20 mil now. Probably just going to bet his eye in the next round. But, man, Tonegawa is kicking ass. Kaiji is probably going to have to cheat with both hands to win. If another ep wasn't already called breakdown, this would be it. Super cool.

Who says you can't bet over the 30mm limit?


no gain for tonegawa and co. once the drum is pierced, this drill can't get much further. in the manga it seems to be a pin, I don't see how that would work. maybe take his second ear. but do you think kaiji would ever consider loosing his sense of hearing after being defeated so horribly? :)

 
Feb 11, 2008 7:49 AM

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One of most intensive episodes.
This ep gave me same kind feeling like on ep 14 or 15(cant remember) when people started to fall from beam.
I think e-card will probably end in next episode. Kaiji gets to keep his ear and wins 3 million.

 
Feb 11, 2008 9:01 AM

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8 episodes to go and E-card Arc is finishing.

I would go for a second round on E-card.

Great Ep.
 
Feb 11, 2008 1:47 PM

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This is too tense. the moments when they show the eardrum rupturing actually make me flinch o-o That shit would hurt!
 
Feb 11, 2008 2:33 PM

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i never knew such a simple game like Ecard could be so intense
it makes me want to try playing, without wajering any body parts, of course
 
Feb 11, 2008 2:46 PM

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ukiuki said:
i never knew such a simple game like Ecard could be so intense
it makes me want to try playing, without wajering any body parts, of course

But not wagering any body parts would defeat the purpose of Ecard, it's only dramatic because you have so much to lose. If you only bet money, you won't be in as much despair as if you bet an ear, since you can always earn more money but you can't grow back another eardrum.
 
Feb 11, 2008 4:20 PM

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it was funny seeing Kaiji break down like that after his plan failed.

 
Feb 11, 2008 9:33 PM

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I thought for sure Kaiji was going to win when he bet 10mm on the slave side but this show always goes down the path I do not predict. This was arguably the most tense episode yet since this show displays emotions unlike any I've seen before in anime. I can actually feel Kaiji's pain, hopelessness, and fear. That is what makes it so tense and that is why it is unequaled in the world of anime at this point.

This show outclasses everything in just about every field right now. I'm still freaked out by episode 18.
 
Feb 12, 2008 4:59 AM
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Oach!

That blood splattering ear drum drill looks damn painful!
 
Feb 12, 2008 6:35 PM

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bigjig said:
It was also nice to see one of the nameless black suits caring about what happens to Kaiji :P
Most likely because he has to tidy up afterwards
 
Feb 12, 2008 11:19 PM

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Kaiji def. had a lot of emotions expressed this episode. He needs to keep his poker face
 
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Hm, didn't like this episode too much. The psychological stuff was too obvious for this show, looking forward to more though.

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Mar 27, 2008 4:51 AM

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Another intense episode. Looks like Kaiji will manage to turn things to his favor, in the next episode. Can't wait to see how =P
 
Dec 8, 2008 5:02 PM

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Wow, I started to watch the show today, and I had school today and I have it tomorrow. I guess I should go to bed now :<<
Well 18 episodes on one day isn't so bad? :P
 
Jan 20, 2009 7:25 AM

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Don´t you think Kaiji should have bet 9mm instead? Almost the same amount of money, but it would also guarantee his safety. Bad move, Kaiji!
 
Feb 8, 2009 4:01 PM

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Kaiji looks hopeless...
 
Apr 29, 2009 6:05 AM

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kaiji is gonna make it cuz h e heaz what it takes but damn i rather be in debt and keep my ears, eyes and balls!
 
Dec 14, 2009 7:43 AM

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Ouch... that scene with the drill getting his ear twice in a row hurt... and damnit Kaiji when will you learn... flaunt your victory and explain why you won AFTER you win... also who the hell told those cripples at the door what the rules are?
 
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Tonegawa is cool
 
Mar 18, 2010 2:35 AM

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Fuck ! I hate how they keep repeating the "blood splattering ear drum" scene.
it's sick .
 
Nov 28, 2010 6:42 AM

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mulderman said:
This is too tense. the moments when they show the eardrum rupturing actually make me flinch o-o That shit would hurt!


This.. I was like "Ouch!!"..
 
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God damn.... The ear rupturing image was horrible! Gave me chills down my spine!
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Dec 14, 2011 3:51 PM

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lol tonegawa has got a soul read on this kaiji
 
Feb 18, 2012 6:22 PM

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HydraA said:
Don´t you think Kaiji should have bet 9mm instead? Almost the same amount of money, but it would also guarantee his safety. Bad move, Kaiji!


There we go, that's why I checked out discussion for this ep, was wondering if someone was gonna mention this ^^ I thought exactly the same, he should have bet 9 instead of 10
 
Aug 30, 2012 6:06 PM

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Whatever everyone here said, I believe the real problem is not of the bets Kaiji chose, but something else: he is exposing himself too much! Tonegawa's stoic calm and ability to observe Kaiji's thoughts are anything but abnormal; with enough experience, in Tonegawa's words, anyone can master their arts.
In other words, Kaiji showed too much emotion here, making it easy for Tonegawa to hit his blind spots. At this rate, Kaiji will lose the match -- unless he learns to control his emotions and fear in a niche of seconds.
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Sep 27, 2012 9:13 PM

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I just had to use my earbuds to listen to this episode.
 
Oct 1, 2012 7:08 PM

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Kaiji will survive.


 
Jan 16, 2013 12:36 PM

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it took kaiji 20mm to see the obvious? even i was able to think of some of kaijis thoughts, its not so very hard. also they explain too much

im a big fan of phsychologic anime but this ... i dont know
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Sep 11, 2014 12:22 AM

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I've never seen Kaiji in so much despair before. Here's hoping he can turn the tables next episode!

 
Dec 22, 2014 7:11 PM

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Well theres already no way he'll get 20million unless he's allowed to wager beyond the eardrum, which i doubt.
 
May 7, 2015 4:53 AM

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Damn...fucking Tonegawa op as fuck. Kaiji is in big shit now, wonder how he will beat this monster. Exciting times ahead.
 
May 7, 2015 1:46 PM

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If only he could hire Akagi to play this match

 
Oct 2, 2015 11:33 PM

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Tonegawa is formidable opponent indeed
 
Oct 24, 2015 1:49 PM

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Damn, a ear-drum getting pierced is the last thing I wanted to see... Nice.

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Dec 22, 2015 12:58 AM

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This episode is filled with Kaiji's awesome facial emotion, hilarious but full of despair
 
Feb 27, 2016 1:59 AM

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Dammit Kaiji you just gotta trick him with your body language since that's how he's reading your moves. It's not rocket science, you're just obvious as hell >_>
 
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Well, that was quite a bad episode. If anything made the first card game interesting were those somewhat imaginative solutions to the various problems Kaiji was facing. E-Card is way too simple and it's getting painful to see him making such terrible decisions everytime. I mean, it is not that hard to bet the proper amount on the first place.

And then you have all the non-subtle revelations - actually pretty common for the show -, both from Kaiji's monologues (that are really getting stupid), Tonegawa's side (preachy to a fault) and the very same narrator stressing the needle and potentially destroyed ear everytime. Alright, we got it. Stop repeating stuff we should have understood already for the hundredth time, it won't build any more suspense/tension.
 
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How is an anime about a card game simpler than rock paper scissors more intense than every action anime I've ever watched?
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Sep 1, 2017 8:49 PM

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Why didn't you bet for 9mm instead ;-; He's reading Kaiji like an open book and he did the most reckless move possible, forcing him to have to win at least a single game against the experienced Tonegawa.

His face shows real despair and I pity what will happen to his eardrum if it keeps up like this. Auditory destruction being shown multiple times in the episode was cruel and unusual.








 
Sep 25, 2017 2:00 PM

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this is just nuts...this anime is crazy addictive, i've even forgot to post my thoughts here lol

but the fact that he wagered 10mm with the slave was just dumb...basically he just put himself into this situation

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He was stupid when he bet 10 mm.
I hope this game ends fast, it's getting boring again.
 
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It's pretty hard to control your body language,especially in desperate situations like this.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

 
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