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| Well looks like she still hasn't learned not to be so passive and not to take so many half since the first season when she couldn't shoot and got her friend killed. |
| Are you for real ? Just fucking shoot goddamit. All of this episode was just part o KAMuI master plan. But where the hell is Sibyl when her world is falling to pieces ? |
| Man, why did she stop him?! Curiosity killed the cat! It was good episode in terms of action but my suspension of disbelief triggered several times. One has to turn his brain off and do not think of details to enjoy the ride. Many things happened though: - too many inspectors and enforcers died - another Dominators get stolen - Togane stalking Akane, trying to get her psycho-pass up - city PP was affected by security program removal from their tablets - (and what's worse) whole thing got public - Sybil must be dying of rage right now |
| Erm... It was all sorts of ridiculous again. It'll be a long rant... The main question that I have is whether their country is controlled by Sybil or not now. Because it kinda is according to the lore, but it kinda isn't as far as this season goes. I was under impression that Dominators are Sybil's eyes and hands, and Sybil is so effective, because it is not a set of protocols, but a vile adaptive net of brains - so it can't be fooled by usual means. Why doesn't Sybil track or lock the stolen Dominators? Why is the rogue inspector not stripped of her authority to use them (if access can be granted, it can be taken)? Why can't Sybil overrun Dominators' judgement even in case of emergency, that obviously happens in this episode? Is she not perturbed? Because it was predictable, thet the resulting outbreak would be dangerous for her. Even if she is curios, doesn't safety usually comes first? No matter her goals, it seems unlikely that she would want an uncontrollable outbreak of data. Btw, I hope that the glove is the source that lets Kamui use the Dominator, because it is strange to lock the hand held gun solely to eye (and also use only one type of biometrics). Then, I don't understand why the chief is so idle in handling the issue with the game. Police is hacking ministry of defense code? Why? Just shut down the stuff, or black out the district. They can't stop acess to a MMO game in a totalitarian world? Really? Then there is the game. It continues to sadden me, that games look so bad in distant future, as well as the fact that they play it on handhelds. Other than that, why do they calling it "holo"? It's obviously not, since holo is something projected, and this is a VR, made by processing real environments, am I not right? They touched an interesting subject of soldiers in a psychologically controlled society, though it's a bit surprising, that their drones still are human-operated. Also their inspectors kill people to ensure national interests just fine, so why can't border guards do it? Lastly, why does nobody do his or her job? Chief is nowhere to be seen in the situation of crysis. Mika is doing whatever, even though it is the right time to ask the chief for support. Why do they do what doctor suggests despite Mika protests? She is stupid, but she is their inspector, and after her report they can all be sent to the facility. Enforcers discipline sure is lax in this season. >< They were better trained in Gino's times. Mika was even right in one case - letting people know was a ticket to disaster. Doctor could be curious, but others should've known better. In their total control world, they could even send drones to individual players... Not to say they could block access to the net. Btw, if the new kid is so good with coding, why not give him as a help to Shion? She needs help, and character dynamics would've become better. Other than that tiny Akane now outruns military tech, and does so instead of a bunch of enforcer men. Drones are not affected by hue, so why her? (Unmanned military tech that can't shoot, if the trajectory can lead to friendly fire, lol.) Enforcers are suddenly all over 300 (they are scared, but why necessary over 300?). The rogue inspector dresses silly and shoots her enforcer, even though she used to like them in a number of ways. I hope that it's because she is on very strong drugs. I understand Akane not wanting to shoot Kamui herself, but she could've let Tougane to try to damage the boat at least. She is supposed to be mature now. |
deadoptimistNov 13, 2014 4:14 PM
| She saw Kou in him, didn't want him to shoot because how she didn't want Kou to become a murderer. |
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| Dominator run out of ammo ? :O not bad episode. Togane reminding Kougami ? What is the scar on Kamui's face ? I wonder... |
| While I'm still thoroughly enjoying this season, I have to agree that it's not nearly as smart as the first season. It seems like it is a lot less planned out, and everything goes by a lot faster without really being developed. Maybe it just seems different because it's just one villain they're going after, while there were multiple separate cases (albeit, they were all connected, but still) in the first season. But again, everything just seems not quite as intricate, and the plot just kind of hurtles forward. However, as I said, I'm still enjoying the season. I like seeing Tsunemori's changes from the last season, such as how she takes charge and the way that she attempts to teach Shimotsuki. I do question her actions at the end of this episode though; it seems like a bit of cheap writing. I was expecting her to at least somehow delay/stop the boat or do something smart that didn't involve killing Kamui. Her character seemed more reminiscent of season one Akane in that moment. Interested to see how the last 5 episodes will play out. |
| o ya lets take off the hologram from the game so people know that theyre responsible for enforcers deaths and raise their crime coefficient. great idea. |
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LusciousLobsters said: why did togane remind akane of kougami at the end? was it like the circumstance and the lighting, or did i forget something from season 1? Well, mainly I think because Akane can't forget Kougami (she is kind of emotionally attached to him) and Togane reminds her of Kougami: - they are both good at fighting - they are smoking the same cigarettes (even Akane is smoking them passively - it seems she misses Kougami and his smell of cigarettes). - he acted similarly to Kougami - he even said the same sentence as Kougami did. (That it's the job of an enforcer to do the "dirty" jobs). - the OP...  |
Tenko-sanNov 14, 2014 7:20 AM
| Something's bothering me. Tougane checks Akane's psycho pass on a daily basis and probably points his denominator at her all the time too and if so, then the chief should have taken notice of this and became suspicious of his actions an take preventive measures... He has been monitoring her since he got there and it has been a year since! If the chief doesnt think this is suspicious she's either too lax or just overlooking his actions on purpose. |
| —Actually, nevermind. |
| Akane should have let Togane shoot him -_- |
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denno- said: Something's bothering me. Tougane checks Akane's psycho pass on a daily basis and probably points his denominator at her all the time too and if so, then the chief should have taken notice of this and became suspicious of his actions an take preventive measures... He has been monitoring her since he got there and it has been a year since! If the chief doesnt think this is suspicious she's either too lax or just overlooking his actions on purpose. It seems that they are working together (there were many hints for that - even in the OP you can see it pretty clearly).  Well, do I have to comment on that?! |
| Man what an episode. Of course, Akane is protecting Tougane from becoming Kogami. Except, Tougane may be a bad guy in disguise. |
| This is what I was fearing with the direction episode 4 seemed to be going. It's great for 'confirming Sybil's downsides one by one' and it's plenty intense, but the writing just doesn't seem to take things like the setting and hierarchy of control as seriously as season one did. I really can't find a way to make any counter arguments with most people's issues with the episode. It's a great idea with a clever setup but the whole situation just raises too many 'plot hole' flags. The ending though, I dunno.. It's not like it isn't in Akane's character. I mean just watch the end of season one again if you're having such a problem with her decision. Same with stopping Togane, having that mindset of ''I'll let the Enforcer do it to protect myself since he's already screwed" would in itself contradict her ideologies and philosophies on justice and would probably end up clouding her hue. She has to stay clear right now. Even if Kamui is killed, his successes have shown just how crucial it is for this system to have an Inspector with a un-stainable hue. I still didn't like it but I dunno it isn't exactly unbelievable. Jesus Mika don't even make an attempt to tip Akane off to the fact that she could very well be in danger with Togane..I just don't know what her character is supposed to provide the story at this point. |
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| I will pretend that season 2 never happened because that ending man..its so stupid. All the development that Akane underwent in S1 was put to the test there and that idiot still couldn't pull the trigger. Lol, this season is a joke So blatantly obvious. The OP spoiled the Tougane - Bad guy link Plus, so much running around and obvious bloodshed, doesn't contrast well with S1. Kamui, plotholes, the awful awful awful script, the CGI..ugh..And so many random convenient explanations thrown in. Really bad animation too. Its sad. Truly. PP was one of my favorites, this sequel is way below average. Way below. Dont blame them though..well i kinda do, they couldve tackled the downfall of Sybil plus the return of Kougami here, coupled with a movie ending. But no, you gotta rehash the ideas in S1 and present them in a butchered way in S2, ugh. Stupid tatsunoko and baka script writer. HATEEEE But i'll continue to watch due to completions sake |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
Sam1198777 said: I don't think you understand Akane's development in season one..I will pretend that season 2 never happened because that ending man..its so stupid. All the development that Akane underwent in S1 was put to the test there and that idiot still couldn't pull the trigger. Lol, this season is a joke |
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AlexTheRiot said: I truly do, and it is absolutely NOT in her character this time. See, couldn't she have shot him in the leg? She actually did hit Makishima with a helmet from the back just after he had killed her friend, she didn't go all ass-wimpy at nona? tower. This guy has literally killed so many inspectors, friends of hers too. But no. Either the writers shouldn't have blatantly tested that and brought that scene up, or they shouldve let her take some better action this time and not collapse just like she did the first time, when confronted with a killer villian. Makes no sense, how much you try to justify the trainwreck this isSam1198777 said: I don't think you understand Akane's development in season one..I will pretend that season 2 never happened because that ending man..its so stupid. All the development that Akane underwent in S1 was put to the test there and that idiot still couldn't pull the trigger. Lol, this season is a joke |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
Sam1198777 said: Even if she shot his leg that boat was getting the hell out of there. The only surefire way to end things then and there would be to shoot to kill(would she really be good enough with a machine gun to merely wound him anyway?), and that's just not something we're ever going to see Akane do unless Togane succeeds in his plans. In fact I'd say the true importance of the scene was to demonstrate that, despite Kamui pushing her mentally, she is still able to make those decisions that make her an un-stainable Inspector so that we have her progress mapped out the way Togane does.AlexTheRiot said: I truly do, and it is absolutely NOT in her character this time. See, couldn't she have shot him in the leg? She actually did hit Makishima with a helmet from the back just after he had killed her friend, she didn't go all ass-wimpy at nona? tower. This guy has literally killed so many inspectors, friends of hers too. But no. Either the writers shouldn't have blatantly tested that and brought that scene up, or they shouldve let her take some better action this time and not collapse just like she did the first time, when confronted with a killer villian. Makes no sense, how much you try to justify the trainwreck this isI don't think you understand Akane's development in season one.. |
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| Disappointed, she should have learned from that time when she didnt shoot Makishima, Akane should have just let Tougane shoot Kamui. Lame, Kamui is still lame |
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| Another crazy episode, I can't get enough from this show. Sam1198777 said: I think that'll be only you.I will pretend that season 2 never happened because that ending man..its so stupid. |
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AlexTheRiot said: So basically you're saying the scene, heck, the whole development, was well executed and served a proper purpose? Oh so, you're telling us that this scene served to show us that Akane remains calm in the face of adversity? Hmm..i wonder what the hell season one did during the entire course of its run.. /sarcasmSam1198777 said: Even if she shot his leg that boat was getting the hell out of there. The only surefire way to end things then and there would be to shoot to kill(would she really be good enough with a machine gun to merely wound him anyway?), and that's just not something we're ever going to see Akane do unless Togane succeeds in his plans. In fact I'd say the true importance of the scene was to demonstrate that, despite Kamui pushing her mentally, she is still able to make those decisions that make her an un-stainable Inspector so that we have her progress mapped out the way Togane does.I truly do, and it is absolutely NOT in her character this time. See, couldn't she have shot him in the leg? She actually did hit Makishima with a helmet from the back just after he had killed her friend, she didn't go all ass-wimpy at nona? tower. This guy has literally killed so many inspectors, friends of hers too. But no. Either the writers shouldn't have blatantly tested that and brought that scene up, or they shouldve let her take some better action this time and not collapse just like she did the first time, when confronted with a killer villian. Makes no sense, how much you try to justify the trainwreck this is Also, no, the scene showed that she did have time (he wasnt leaving, he clearly said "we know you wont shoot (you wimp)". And even after that, she stopped togane. Which is insane. They wanted to show a very "kogami i remember you" kinda scene there, but they really failed. lolol Pointless scene. Just to put in Kogami to please some kogami worshippers. Literally filler shit. This season has been a rehash of used ideas, and that too in a very butchered, and cheap (and not to mention gory) way. sad |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
iAmZiro said: Only me? Oh you really need to see the previous pages on this threadAnother crazy episode, I can't get enough from this show. Sam1198777 said: I think that'll be only you.I will pretend that season 2 never happened because that ending man..its so stupid. |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
| Is it just me or does the OP get more distorted each episode? Anyways... crazy episode, still confused on how this'll be resolved. |
yahzeeNov 13, 2014 6:01 PM
| Oh look, another Shogo scenario where Akane doesn't want to shoot. |
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| I almost though Tsunemori was going to shoot for a minute there and then she saw part of Kogami through Tougane. |
| well I understand if Akane won't shoot Togane because she remembered Kougami. But the boat? Unless doing so with make her psycho pass clouded, why not doing so -_-; but man, this is great episode with so many action and blood. I can't hate Mika anymore she's the clown of the show. |
| Your so-called peaceful world makes me bored, so don't blame me if I destroy all of it. - http://worldinverse.smackjeeves.com |
Sam1198777 said: lol nice try at a straw man, or more likely you just didn't try to understand what I was saying. Never did I say it any of those things. I'm not sitting here trying to justify every little thing the way you're trying to knock everything. I'm just thinking about what she show is telling us with/about its characters. It's about Akane's state of mind that keeps her clean. This season is about the limits she can be pushed to. It's about her maintaining that conviction that we saw her come out of season one with, and she can't do that if she starts making decisions that require the kind of thought process that could cloud her hue any more than slightly. So basically you're saying the scene, heck, the whole development, was well executed and served a proper purpose? Oh so, you're telling us that this scene served to show us that Akane remains calm in the face of adversity? Hmm..i wonder what the hell season one did during the entire course of its run.. /sarcasm The reason I commented on its purpose was not to justify it happening, but to make assumptions on what the show is trying to tell us to think about, and why. It showed that Kamui has not shaken her mind up enough to cause her to make decisions that compromise her conviction, for the possible purpose of foreshadowing an event in which Togane might succeed in doing that. I think the revelations of his stalking and (more importantly) his blunt comment on wanting to turn her black solidifies that thought. Also, no, the scene showed that she did have time (he wasnt leaving, he clearly said "we know you wont shoot (you wimp)". And even after that, she stopped togane. Which is insane. How do you figure she had time? Also, no, he was leaving. The motor started and the boat began moving, and THEN Akane switched to the AK. Did you miss the shot of Shisui clearly getting in the way of a clean shot when the boat started moving? That's when he said "I know you can't shoot. And like I said, even if she tried a desperation shot to wound him it wouldn't matter as the boat was already speeding out. Also, it isn't insane to think she would stop Togane. Kougami aside, Togane's attempt to shoot Kamui would(like I mentioned) end up killing Shisui more likely than not. Which brings me back to Akane's conviction. |
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deadoptimist said: Erm... It was all sorts of ridiculous again. It'll be a long rant... The main question that I have is whether their country is controlled by Sybil or not now. Because it kinda is according to the lore, but it kinda isn't as far as this season goes. I was under impression that Dominators are Sybil's eyes and hands, and Sybil is so effective, because it is not a set of protocols, but a vile adaptive net of brains - so it can't be fooled by usual means. Why doesn't Sybil track or lock the stolen Dominators? Why is the rogue inspector not stripped of her authority to use them (if access can be granted, it can be taken)? Why can't Sybil overrun Dominators' judgement even in case of emergency, that obviously happens in this episode? Is she not perturbed? Because it was predictable, thet the resulting outbreak would be dangerous for her. Even if she is curios, doesn't safety usually comes first? No matter her goals, it seems unlikely that she would want an uncontrollable outbreak of data. Btw, I hope that the glove is the source that lets Kamui use the Dominator, because it is strange to lock the hand held gun solely to eye (and also use only one type of biometrics). Then, I don't understand why the chief is so idle in handling the issue with the game. Police is hacking ministry of defense code? Why? Just shut down the stuff, or black out the district. They can't stop acess to a MMO game in a totalitarian world? Really? Then there is the game. It continues to sadden me, that games look so bad in distant future, as well as the fact that they play it on handhelds. Other than that, why do they calling it "holo"? It's obviously not, since holo is something projected, and this is a VR, made by processing real environments, am I not right? They touched an interesting subject of soldiers in a psychologically controlled society, though it's a bit surprising, that their drones still are human-operated. Also their inspectors kill people to ensure national interests just fine, so why can't border guards do it? Lastly, why does nobody do his or her job? Chief is nowhere to be seen in the situation of crysis. Mika is doing whatever, even though it is the right time to ask the chief for support. Why do they do what doctor suggests despite Mika protests? She is stupid, but she is their inspector, and after her report they can all be sent to the facility. Enforcers discipline sure is lax in this season. >< They were better trained in Gino's times. Mika was even right in one case - letting people know was a ticket to disaster. Doctor could be curious, but others should've known better. In their total control world, they could even send drones to individual players... Not to say they could block access to the net. Btw, if the new kid is so good with coding, why not give him as a help to Shion? She needs help, and character dynamics would've become better. Other than that tiny Akane now outruns military tech, and does so instead of a bunch of enforcer men. Drones are not affected by hue, so why her? (Unmanned military tech that can't shoot, if the trajectory can lead to friendly fire, lol.) Enforcers are suddenly all over 300 (they are scared, but why necessary over 300?). The rogue inspector dresses silly and shoots her enforcer, even though she used to like them in a number of ways. I hope that it's because she is on very strong drugs. I understand Akane not wanting to shoot Kamui herself, but she could've let Tougane to try to damage the boat at least. She is supposed to be mature now. I had a list of things I wanted to bring up, but you touched on so many it's almost scary. I have to admit I quite enjoyed S1, even though I've never been a huge Urobutcher fan. But the writing here just pales, so far imo. I don't even know where to start...but, I'm I the only one who hopes Saiga will punch that GDamn smiling politician in the face? Ughhhh, getting so annoying. LOL |
magnum339_tyrant said: Why didn't Akane kill Kamui? (rhetorical question) What happened to the Dominators? Why they have ammo now? Now that everyone's dead, there's only Division 1 to protect Japan. What will happen? If Togane's working with Kasei to study Akane's hue to bring her to the Sybil System (or even if he's not), then I think he wants to sabotage the brain party by turning her black. I guess he has a grudge against the System, maybe because they turned his mother (probably Kasei) into one of them? (just a theory) I don't know about his grudge against the system. When Mika reported Sakuya was pointing a dominator at Akane, Kasei seemed to overlook it. I think they're more of a team than enemies. Also, since Sakuya has the highest recorded Crime Coefficient, it seems odd that he's still alive. Perhaps Kasei prevented his death. IMO, the most dangerous person to Kasei and the Sibyl System is Akane, because she knows the truth behind it. The only way to get rid of Akane is to cloud her hue. |
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| At this point, Kamui is just too much of a villain sue. Everything he plans just goes off perfectly without a hitch, every single time. And we're never shown how he pulls all this shit off. He just magically waves his hands and suddenly there's super-detailed holo, the MWPSB's computer systems are compromised, etc. Maybe it will all be explained later on, and then it will all make sense, but right now, the way he just cruises his way through everything and single handedly pulls off insanely complicated stuff without anything ever going wrong, with no explanation ever given as to how he is able to do all this so easily? Reminds me a lot of a certain other Kirito, and that's NOT a good thing. |
| By the way, who was driving the boat?! |
dondon151 said: Solution: use the Destroy Decomposer on the boat. lol fst said: Drones? Sybil? Citizens playing GTA on a tablet?By the way, who was driving the boat?! |
AlexTheRiotNov 13, 2014 7:14 PM
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soraibi said: Me too. It's like the new staff listened to complaints about the show being pretentious with all those bits and wanted to go for a more ''direct'' approach.and I'm also missing the awesome quotes from plays and books from last season ;( |
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| This week's most useless character goes to... What a surprise. It's Mika again.  |
| I bet those bitches will think twice before picking up a Call of Duty game! Lmao im evil af |
TyrelNov 13, 2014 7:47 PM
| After Akane couldn't pull the trigger in season 1, we all knew she was going to be too much of a pussy to do it at the end there. And of course she had to stop Togane because she had a Kogami flashback. Couldn't have even let him pop off a couple rounds. Inspecter Shisui went full evil, at least her latex villain one piece looks sexy. Speaking of Kogami, don't they show him a bit in the OP? I was almost certain that it was him in the chair scene where he like vanishes, and in the scene before that with the dude sitting with his head down in the room changing colors, I'm not sure if that's Kogami or Kamui. Nobunagun said: anyone else saw how Akane got a headshot in this week's OP visuals? It's highly unlikely that this would ever happen but who knows, though? Still pretty interesting to see that scene. It's actually been like that for a while ago. They changed it in episode 2 or 3 and it's shown that ever since. darkreaver94 said: Vexper said: Since when did dominators run out of shots? Those things have ammo? I don't recall that ever being a problem before, am I missing something lol. Don't think so. I think it is more of cheap writing to make the situation more intense. It doesn't seem like cheap writing at all. Obviously the dominators are energy based weapons. It's only natural they would run out of energy, but they've never really put the inspectors and enforcers in a situation where they would need to use them till empty. In season 1 they never had to kill a horde of drones, just one or two. Plus, the decomposer mode is the most lethal, meaning it would use the most energy. |
| I'm confused as to how kids in an age with holographic technology and guns that can read anxiety levels, could be fascinated with a game that looks like something out of the 80s. And Shisui...I'm having an impossible time swallowing her newly found creepy devotion to Kamui's cause. Did she have some huge unfulfilled axe to grind that would allow the wholesale slaughter of her friends and colleagues? That part is coming off as so cheesy to me. I'm afraid "Hungry Chickens" is becoming synonymous with "Hyper Oats." An interesting idea, but sloppily handled. Hopefully the remaining episodes start to fill in the holes and focus on the characters... |
DouluoNov 13, 2014 8:18 PM
| Another major issue I had was that the denominators had actual ammo....like wtf? In the days where holographic technology is available and guns that scan and give a persons information, there is actually limitations on the bullets? Utterly ridiculous. |
| Some convenient writing this episode..seriously Akane? After everything that happened in S1? You could at least TRY to shoot the boat u know... Also don't get me started on the whole drone bullshit...since when does Dominators run out of shot? Way to cheaply build suspense, convenience at it's best... Well Mika, i don't hate you, but you seriously give me reasons to..."That is your job" Get REKT Shisui's personality feels so forced, also lol that outfit...you go diva! "Turn her black"? Yep, this ep. confirms it, Tougane isn't Kougami, he wouldn't ever say something like that. What about that last scene then? I believe that was meant to be a reference to S1. Tougane's action reminded Akane of Kougami, needless to say she doesn't want him to end up like that. Though i wouldn't be worried if i was you Akane, that guy already has the highest hue ever.... Also if Tougane is working for Sibyl, then why would he want Akane's hue to go black, even though she's 'helping' Sybil despite knowing it's true identity? That wouldn't make sense, although he could be acting on his own, but if that's the case, and he knows nothing about Sybil true identity, checking an inspector EVERY SINGLE DAY is suspicious as fuck, but even so Sybil just ignores it...maybe i'm looking to deep on it, or maybe i'm overlooking something...Maybe he's with Kamui? But that doesn't make sense either... By all means, DON'T GET ME WRONG, i thoroughly enjoyed this episode, and i love Psycho-Pass 2, but it is obvious Urobutcher is no longer writing this... Holy fucking shit, i think this may be my longest, most well thought post to date! O.o oh never mind, just saw what it looks like after posted, nothing special... Just shows you how much i care about this series, 5/5 entertainment value for this episode, i was pretty hyped. . |
PriestSlayerNov 13, 2014 8:27 PM
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| The one thing I did like: The Dominators only have three Elimination Rounds. It's an energy based weapon, so that's believable! |
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