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Jun 21, 2016 8:31 PM

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Krystalx27 said:
FoxyKitsune said:
I think it was terrible. They should have ended it at chapter 699


Kishi did, 700 is a epilogue.


That's not how it works.
 
Jul 21, 2016 8:10 AM
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You know when I look at some of these shippings, it's make me think that Kishimoto plays the new Fire Emblem for how random some of them feel.
Let me see if I have the relationships right:
NarutoXHinata (Thank God)
SasukeXSakura
ShikamaruXTemari (Interesting)
LeeXTenten (Interesting choice)
SaiXIno(Again, Thank God)
KibaXIDK (Don't know who she is...)
ChojiXThat one black chick for the from the Cloud Village? (Most random ship that I have EVER seen here)

I like that One Piece reference Boruto made on his father's monument.
All's well that ends well. I give this series a 10/10. It was flawed yes, IMO you can be flawed and have a very entertaining and amazing story at the same time.
 
Sep 8, 2016 10:22 AM

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I gotta say that adult Sasuke's hairstyle is ugly and ruins his entire character, might be the worst thing I've ever seen.
 
Mar 25, 2017 7:19 AM
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And the own son of Naruto Uzumaki have their story now
 
Apr 24, 2017 7:32 AM

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WTF is that on Boruto's head. Are you saying his head is an apple?
Shikadai is obviously Shikamaru's kid.

Wow. That kid is obviously Ino and Sai's kid. What an ugly combination. Sai's skin color with Ino's hair color is ugly AF. Plus, the eyes. Should have gave the kid Ino's skin color and just made him wear Sai's clothes.

Chouchou? That's clearly Chouji's kid, but the big issue here is WTF is up with her design? Who is the mother? Just by looking at Chouchou, I feel a familiarity due to the eye so it is probably someone we know. Kishi really told himself "Let me give Chouji a fat black kid to make everyone say WTF."

WTF! Is that Anko? No focking way! That is not my waifu! This is not the right future. 3 pages in and I'm already saying Kishimoto needs to redo this shit. Don't tell me Kishimoto is using the logo of woman in their 40's must be fat now.

So Naruto has two kids and the other is a girl. Bet that Hinata kid will be irrelevant AF thus making you wonder why Kishimoto gave Naruto 2 kids when only 1 is enough.

Rock Lee and his kid. lol Tenten owns a store. lol

Damn. Gaara lost all his spiky hair. Temari and Shikamaru got together. :)

Kiba got together with that cat girl. Sad as hell seeing Akamaru old as shit.

I knew that she would be Chouchou's mother, but how the hell did Chouji get with her. Need answers.

Asuma's daughter looking like Kurenai. Kurenai looking old as shit.

Damn. Guy looks like he aged while the same can't really be said for Kakashi.

Ohnoki on his deathbed. Mizukage got fat. Tsunade continues cheating death.

Dat laptop. Naruto really became Hokage. I like how Shikamaru looks like his dad.

Hold up. Is that Shizune? If so, why didn't you keep Anko the same, Kishimoto? You asshole. You ruined my waifu.

Boruto acting like Naruto once did. Of course Boruto would call Minato a geezer. Naruto doing fatherly things.

Iruka and Konohamaru. Sad seeing Iruka look that old.

Sakura is a mom? Who the hell is the father? Also, I see Kishimoto giving Sakura that Kushina hairstyle and reaction face. That is going to trigger certain people and they do have a reason to be triggered.

Sasuke is the father? Well, I do see the resemblance. It's strange. The kid reminds me of a Sasuke and Karin combination than a Sasuke and Sakura. Just saying. Kishimoto gave Sasuke a daughter? That's weird. Let me guess. Boruto and Sarada are going to get together. That must be the reason.

Sasuke looking like an Uchiha. Well, Madara-esque.

Oh shit! They have cities now. Been a long ass time since I read the Naruto one shot, but I think it had cities in it as well, so I guess Kishimoto added that here.

And that was the end of Naruto. Damn anime couldn't even adapt this chapter.

Reading this felt weird. The only character design I approve of is Shikadai. Everyone else looks weird or like shit.

Then there's Anko. You destroyed my vision of my waifu. Went from sexy fishnet woman to fat woman. You had me devastated like:

If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have).
 
Aug 10, 2018 5:45 AM

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Naruto is the new Hokage, boring last chapter, especially since his kid is doing the same things he did.
 
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700 chapters and finally done. I set here not entirely sure how I'd rate the series as a whole so I'm probably going to ramble on about my thoughts on it until I reach a decision but before that, this chapter wasn't very good. It clearly felt like an epilogue type chapter with 699 being the true "finale" so to speak, and it kinda works well as that. I wasn't that interested and I kinda forgot a lot of the stuff that happened and it was just a few days ago that I finished it. It's mostly just shipping, which I don't care about, and I knew most of these results from earlier. Sakura & Sasuke ended up together is gross.

But time for it as a whole. Or rather part 2, as a whole. Part 1 was a fairly solid shonen series that was really good at executing the emotional core of the protagonist and those he paralleled with like Gaara. I'd probably give that an 8, it was generally good stuff. The second half, and the far more lengthy portion of the series of course, is a lot more of a mixed bag.

You know, I convinced myself I was going to go and ramble on about my thoughts. About my disappointment in the use of the supporting cast (sans Shikamaru, honestly think he feels more like a main character than Sakura does, which is fine, Shikamaru is awesome), about how several of the plot-lines ended up (Kaguya for example, or how after getting caught Yamato's plot is told resolved in like six panels spread out across hundreds of chapters it feels like). But I think ultimately, if I'm going to spend my time ruminating on Naruto, I should just be concise and talk about it's central conflict, the one between Naruto & Sasuke.

Outside of just being spoiled of it, it was obvious that Sasuke was going to end up being redeemed. It was obvious Naruto was going to win him back, it was all throughout the manga's DNA that it was going to, hence the Talk no Jutsu. Which by the way, I like because to me Talk no Jutsu just translates to the series caring more about the characters than the action, which is where my interests typically lie anyway. Especially with the direction Part 2 took, I found a lot of the fights kinda boring here but that's neither here nor there. I'm a bit conflicted on the Sasuke arc because I want to love it.

The most frustrating thing about Sasuke's plot-line is how well it should gel with me. To copy what I wrote to a friend because I'm too lazy to reiterate my points, "I do like the direction Sasuke takes after joining the war and I do like, not necessarily the final fight, but the aftermath of the final fight. I think Kishimoto executed that moment really well, the use of the flashbacks and thoughts from Sasuke, the expressions, he drew that chapter really well and several moments were effective based on the drawing (like Sasuke's expression after Naruto said it hurt seeing Sasuke isolate himself again), and the final imagery of the lack of arm, and blood hand holding reinforcing their relationship was pretty strong too, and came as a shock when turning that page. I want to praise that but the thought running through my head was "I really wish this worked for me, I really wish the build-up matched" because like, this kinda ridiculously loyalty, saving someone trying to martyr themselves, is totally up my wheelhouse. But the two biggest problems is that I don't think what we saw of Naruto & Sasuke's relationship prior to his departure warranted the dedication that Naruto held for him (which granted, they did pin somewhat on Sakura making him promise), and I feel the stuff about their childhood probably should've been established prior to the arc where he was basically leaving. Like I really liked Gungrave which had a similar best friends turn enemy kinda thing to it but that worked a lot more for me because it did a much better job of establishing a strong bond between those two protagonists. Here, it just seemed like kinda your typical shonen rival relationship, until Sasuke decides he's going to run off to Oorochimaru, once that threat's established, we start getting deeper insight into what Sasuke means to Naruto, and while I think it connects fine to what we know about both of them, coming in at that point feels a bit forced. The other problem being Sasuke just going completely off the rails after finding out Itachi's backstory and deciding that everyone in Konoha needed to die. Like, if he didn't have that extreme drop, I think this could've really worked for me because in isolation, I do really like that conclusion chapter to their conflict, but as a whole, Sasuke was too all over the place."

The short version of that is if their relationship dynamic was a lot stronger earlier on/if got more time to absorb into it prior to the threat of Sasuke's departure and/or if Sasuke didn't nosedive into insanity against all inhabitants of Konoha, I think this plot line would've really worked for me because in a bubble I do think Kishimoto nailed the ending of their arc. Like, even Sasuke's reason for fighting Naruto after the whole Kaguya stuff, I thought that logically lined up with his character profile, revealed some essence of likability in the manner that he was trying to essentially martyr himself, and made it more plausible for him to be brought back. It's just, I can read that chapter and tell that if things were handled a little differently in the middle of the story or near the beginning, then this would've really worked on me. I could've loved this, instead I have a detached appreciation for the ending execution and a frustration at what the build was.

Anyway, I've been mulling between whether or not Naruto is a 6 or a 7 for me and ultimately I decided to go for a 7. It's close but ultimately I always lean more favourably. And there was still a lot of this series I really liked, even if the moments became fewer and fewer between in the final stretches. Also, just cause I never mentioned it anywhere else, one of my favourite moments of the past two hundred chapters, maybe my favourite, was Naruto's goodbye to Minato where he was answering everyone of Kushina's words from before she died. It was really sweet, their was a long space between them so it felt more touching revisiting it, and I think it's moments like that that Kishimoto really nailed.
 
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Terrestrious said:
700 chapters and finally done. I set here not entirely sure how I'd rate the series as a whole so I'm probably going to ramble on about my thoughts on it until I reach a decision but before that, this chapter wasn't very good. It clearly felt like an epilogue type chapter with 699 being the true "finale" so to speak, and it kinda works well as that. I wasn't that interested and I kinda forgot a lot of the stuff that happened and it was just a few days ago that I finished it. It's mostly just shipping, which I don't care about, and I knew most of these results from earlier. Sakura & Sasuke ended up together is gross.

But time for it as a whole. Or rather part 2, as a whole. Part 1 was a fairly solid shonen series that was really good at executing the emotional core of the protagonist and those he paralleled with like Gaara. I'd probably give that an 8, it was generally good stuff. The second half, and the far more lengthy portion of the series of course, is a lot more of a mixed bag.

You know, I convinced myself I was going to go and ramble on about my thoughts. About my disappointment in the use of the supporting cast (sans Shikamaru, honestly think he feels more like a main character than Sakura does, which is fine, Shikamaru is awesome), about how several of the plot-lines ended up (Kaguya for example, or how after getting caught Yamato's plot is told resolved in like six panels spread out across hundreds of chapters it feels like). But I think ultimately, if I'm going to spend my time ruminating on Naruto, I should just be concise and talk about it's central conflict, the one between Naruto & Sasuke.

Outside of just being spoiled of it, it was obvious that Sasuke was going to end up being redeemed. It was obvious Naruto was going to win him back, it was all throughout the manga's DNA that it was going to, hence the Talk no Jutsu. Which by the way, I like because to me Talk no Jutsu just translates to the series caring more about the characters than the action, which is where my interests typically lie anyway. Especially with the direction Part 2 took, I found a lot of the fights kinda boring here but that's neither here nor there. I'm a bit conflicted on the Sasuke arc because I want to love it.

The most frustrating thing about Sasuke's plot-line is how well it should gel with me. To copy what I wrote to a friend because I'm too lazy to reiterate my points, "I do like the direction Sasuke takes after joining the war and I do like, not necessarily the final fight, but the aftermath of the final fight. I think Kishimoto executed that moment really well, the use of the flashbacks and thoughts from Sasuke, the expressions, he drew that chapter really well and several moments were effective based on the drawing (like Sasuke's expression after Naruto said it hurt seeing Sasuke isolate himself again), and the final imagery of the lack of arm, and blood hand holding reinforcing their relationship was pretty strong too, and came as a shock when turning that page. I want to praise that but the thought running through my head was "I really wish this worked for me, I really wish the build-up matched" because like, this kinda ridiculously loyalty, saving someone trying to martyr themselves, is totally up my wheelhouse. But the two biggest problems is that I don't think what we saw of Naruto & Sasuke's relationship prior to his departure warranted the dedication that Naruto held for him (which granted, they did pin somewhat on Sakura making him promise), and I feel the stuff about their childhood probably should've been established prior to the arc where he was basically leaving. Like I really liked Gungrave which had a similar best friends turn enemy kinda thing to it but that worked a lot more for me because it did a much better job of establishing a strong bond between those two protagonists. Here, it just seemed like kinda your typical shonen rival relationship, until Sasuke decides he's going to run off to Oorochimaru, once that threat's established, we start getting deeper insight into what Sasuke means to Naruto, and while I think it connects fine to what we know about both of them, coming in at that point feels a bit forced. The other problem being Sasuke just going completely off the rails after finding out Itachi's backstory and deciding that everyone in Konoha needed to die. Like, if he didn't have that extreme drop, I think this could've really worked for me because in isolation, I do really like that conclusion chapter to their conflict, but as a whole, Sasuke was too all over the place."

The short version of that is if their relationship dynamic was a lot stronger earlier on/if got more time to absorb into it prior to the threat of Sasuke's departure and/or if Sasuke didn't nosedive into insanity against all inhabitants of Konoha, I think this plot line would've really worked for me because in a bubble I do think Kishimoto nailed the ending of their arc. Like, even Sasuke's reason for fighting Naruto after the whole Kaguya stuff, I thought that logically lined up with his character profile, revealed some essence of likability in the manner that he was trying to essentially martyr himself, and made it more plausible for him to be brought back. It's just, I can read that chapter and tell that if things were handled a little differently in the middle of the story or near the beginning, then this would've really worked on me. I could've loved this, instead I have a detached appreciation for the ending execution and a frustration at what the build was.

Anyway, I've been mulling between whether or not Naruto is a 6 or a 7 for me and ultimately I decided to go for a 7. It's close but ultimately I always lean more favourably. And there was still a lot of this series I really liked, even if the moments became fewer and fewer between in the final stretches. Also, just cause I never mentioned it anywhere else, one of my favourite moments of the past two hundred chapters, maybe my favourite, was Naruto's goodbye to Minato where he was answering everyone of Kushina's words from before she died. It was really sweet, their was a long space between them so it felt more touching revisiting it, and I think it's moments like that that Kishimoto really nailed.


Sasuke never should have been redeemed simply because Kishimoto created a plot hole just having him survive against Deidara's explosion.
 
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Even on a reread, I still don't like the war arc, but overall the series is not as bad as I initially thought. I'd say a 7.5.
 
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