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Jul 26, 2016 12:00 PM
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Aaaah i dont like this end at all..... I feel sorry for satsuki..... :') damn it
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Jul 27, 2016 6:13 AM

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I want to cry, that was so cute. I never wanted her to end up with Mamura but I feel like this is how it was supposed to be all along.
Sep 4, 2016 5:20 PM

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honestly i'm not too sure about the ending. i was rooting for mamura from the start because while suzume's relationship with sensei was cute and sweet at times, it could never work and would ultimately end up with a lot of bitter emotions because of society's judgments and attitudes towards their student teacher relationship. i could appreciate how flawed everyone was and how characters were much more than one dimensional and through their characteristics and their choices, the story felt a lot more realistic. though with suzume's portrayal i really didn't feel like she deserved mamura for a majority of the second half of the series--and to a lesser extent, the finale, but i'm happy they ended up together because as a whole i enjoyed mamura as a person a lot more and it was satisfying to see him find happiness even if i didn't necessarily enjoy the person he found it with. i did love how much most of the characters grew throughout the series though.

another issue i had was that for how long the series was i didn't feel like i was invested in these relationships because of how suddenly people would fall in love or fall out of love in certain points. but that was definitely just my opinion. it made for a very bizarre experience where i knew i was supposed to feel someone's pain or someone's elation, but i never really did.

while i don't think the ending of the series was particularly rushed, i do feel that this chapter, as a finale, was rushed. we get sensei and suzume's "confessions" to each other, but then suddenly it's over, and while that made sense, it was really jarring for sensei's story to end like that considering he was a main character in the first half, and a major character at least by the second half. we get closure for that relationship, but it's still severely lacking because we don't see the aftermath of how the two deal with that and it's disappointing to see one of the key players of this story dealt with like kind of an afterthought.

i hate to sound too critical of the series though because i did enjoy it for the most part, the ending just left a bit of a disagreeable feeling in me.

that said, i felt that yuyuka's progression throughout the series made sense. all her life she's had people like her and fawn over her because she's "beautiful" so to speak so it makes sense that she's interested in mamura--someone who breaks apart from the fold. and with his rejection it makes sense for her to come to terms with her own misunderstood feelings towards him and to develop a real love towards someone else. it was immensely satisfying to see her get a happy ending in the end where she falls in love with togyuu and the course of that relationship that we got to see was well thought out and logical and realistic in my eyes.
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Sep 5, 2016 10:01 AM

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Mayuka said:
Kogi18 said:
That felt good - finally the second guy gets a chance to end up with the heroine :D

I have more of that (those types of manga) if you need it. It's fantastic when the author can write second loves well~

Oh can you direct them to me plz? :D
I'm fan of the romance where the guy work his way up for the girl he loves over the course of the manga. Like Good Ending and Maison Ikkoku.
Oct 23, 2016 11:59 PM

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Just finished reading this. WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH <3 Wow. For the first time I read a manga, the first guy who met wasn't the one for her <3 NICE MANGA <3 I really do love Mamura x Suzume ship. I didn't know that it's gonna end like that <3
May 11, 2017 5:18 PM
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worst. ending. ever. like what the hell, the manga was sooooo good at the beginning, she and sensei were so cute and she ends up with mamura?! i mean come on, she was so in love with sensei at the beginning just whhyyyyy, sensei loved her so much aswell! i hate that damn uncle for ruining everything and i hate the whole ending, it ruined the entire manga for me (ㅠㅅㅠ)!!
Jun 11, 2017 11:20 AM
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Its like ao haru ride but with touma ending lol
Aug 18, 2017 10:34 PM

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Why do people keep saying that Mamura is the second male lead? Stories can have more then one main male/female lead. Mamura was just as prominent to the story as Shishio was. While Shishio was the first love interest, it doesn't mean Mamura was second male lead.

Take Ran to Haiiro no Sekai

Sep 9, 2017 9:58 AM
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Really didn't like the ending. The only reason Suzume ever even started liking Mamura was due to timing -- he happened to need a fake girlfriend right when Sensei was forced to dump her. Suzume hadn't even remotely thought of him in that way until then. It was so rushed and awkward. While I'm a hardcore Shishio x Suzume shipper, I would have been totally okay with Mamura if their relationship had actually progressed logically to its conclusion.

Personally, for me, this isn't the real ending. It doesn't feel satisfying. The true ending is at the end of chapter 77, where after hearing Sensei's side of the story, Suzume reciprocates Sensei's feelings (the man she's loved all along, her daytime shooting star) & gently lets down Mamura. I think it'd even be humbling to see him accept that she could never truly move on from Sensei, no matter how much he tried. Just like how it was beautiful for him to tell her to go see him in the hospital.

In addition, there's a scene between Yukichi and Shishio's ex-girlfriend in chapter 77, where Yukichi says that he wishes he could have talked to Shishio & Suzume, because he was the reason their relationship ended. If Suzume actually knew WHY Shishio broke up with her, rather than the vague terms he uses in his confession, she would see him completely differently -- it was never his feelings that made him leave her. I feel like the mangaka purposely left out a confrontation between Yukichi, Shishio & Suzume because it would have been that much harder to justify her running off to Mamura.

Also, Shishio actually had substance. He was an interesting, three-dimensional character, who felt guilt, love & everything in between (although his jealous streak with Mamura near the end was quite stereotypical and annoying). His fight with Yukichi was one of the most powerful moments of the manga. It would have been incredible to see how Shishio & Suzume would actually make their relationship work in the future, as teacher and student. I feel like the mangaka was too lazy to write an actual, logical way for them to be together -- easiest way out is to just pair Suzume with another character her age. The teacher x student relationship was what made this manga UNIQUE -- to cut it out at the end is incredibly disappointing.

Mamura felt like every other shoujo love interest I've seen, time and time again. Blushes easily. Couldn't "connect" to girls but magically can now. Underdog that tries to steal the heroine away through multiple confessions/helping them through their love problems. It's frustrating that a manga that wasn't afraid to bend stereotypes and think outside of the box chose such a conventional, tired ending.

Sigh. Time to go read/write Shishio x Suzume fanfiction. This manga deserves a better ending, and I hope someone out there has written it (and if not, it'll be me). And, I guess if Suzume doesn't want him, Shishio's all mine. <3 At least we could actually have a legal relationship, lmao.

Overall though, the manga was a good read in and of itself. It gets a 7/10 in my book for the amazing first 50 chapters or so.
Oct 12, 2017 5:58 PM

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fishergirl16 said:
And, I guess if Suzume doesn't want him, Shishio's all mine. <3

Ahem, I know how you feel but actually Shishio belongs to her.

Dec 2, 2017 11:15 PM

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As much as I like Mamura, I don't really feel anything about sensei throughout the series.


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Jan 29, 2018 7:02 AM
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Ao haru ride dissapointing ending? Haha. Thanks guys. I've deleted Nisekoi from my mangarock app and this will follow suit, glad not to read it and waste time and bad taste.

Sorry, not a fan of a third wheel schmuck who derides the heavily favored canon pair, especially when the shmuck has zero substance and undeserving compared to the more interesting and intriguing MC. Haha

Reading through frustrated posts reminds me of myself while venting in Mal. That damn Onani Master haha. I learned my lesson. Lmao not again. Thanks people lol
Mar 18, 2018 12:57 PM

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I honestly never expected Mamura to be the end game. I wanted sensei to win but Mamura is fine too. I can see why it upsets some people (kinda like me too) but it's somewhat refreshing to see someone who seemed very much like a secondary love interest/a rival-kin to win in the end.
*Screaming autistically through the screen*
May 7, 2018 5:27 PM

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donno i was rather bored for most of it and only started it as i wanted a "nice guy wins" manga but that timeskip ending was random as hell..
Aug 26, 2018 12:42 AM
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Well, I like this manga.
but honestly, I hate this climax to be unexpected. cursed with first and true love, that is only hope, because the beginning of the relationship between sensei and the synopsis is directed at sensei, but why is enp up, only makes sensei repeat a second time, when he knows how to show honest feelings, and why makes sensei relationship and heroine too exploded. then make us believe that the relationship is good and right, only one in my mind, the author just likes the character mamura not sensei, damn it ~
Sep 13, 2018 3:43 AM

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Why the last volumes ends with chapter 78 but MAL says 86? I'm confused?
Oct 20, 2018 10:34 AM
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I like ending but....
From the first chapter i like Shishio a lot. No not just 'like' i am IN LOVE WITH HIM. Everytime i reread the manga i feel like crying. He deserves to be happy...
uuuugghh Shishio Satsuke you are reeeeaaaalllllyyy most amazing character i've ever seen..
Jan 27, 2:14 PM
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I really liked the end. Mamura is a much better choice for her.
Feb 3, 12:18 PM

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Half of me is satisfied with the ending, half of me is still stuck with sensei :'(
I really liked this one, it's a bit different than other shoujo manga.
Mar 6, 12:18 AM
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I know im a bit late but im glad bcs at first i thought i was the only one who feel dissapointed bout the ending but then i found theres few ppl which (still)hoping if suzume ended up with sensei *me too guys me too*. However it already finished, we readers couldnt change how the story ended tho even we sensei x suzume shipper want them to be together at the end so bad.
Besides im a fan of sensei, sensei is really deserves happiness too. Yeah he was lying said he didnt love suzume at that time he did that for suzumes safe he didnt want continue the forbidden relationship. He's nice. He's funny. And the most important thing is he really do loves suzume. The time when he knew if suzume was officially dating with mamura made him feel sad AND THAT BREAKS MY HEART SO MUCH TOO LIKE I CAN FEEL HIS FEELING LOL. AH ALSO THE MOMENT WHEN HE GOT REJECTED BY SUZUME ON THE HOSPITAL THATS SO FUCKIN HEARTBREAKING I WAS CRYIN WHEN I READ THAT SCENE ALL OF SUDDEN. But theres same goes to mamura he's also kind, he did everything to make suzume happy, he always be there for suzume without being asked to and suzume is his first love doesnt it? Guess so bcs she's the only girl that he feel confident to talked to. It kind of direffent tho which triangle love dont usually ended up like this. Ended up with the sec guy. Both sensei and mamura is kind i can't😩
Now suzume, she loves sensei sooo muchhh, i dont think she has moved on from sensei at all, she thinks of sensei at all time and at any place, now if she had really moveon does she will think about sensei, does she will gets flashbacks, and damn does she will feel worried when her uncle told her if shishio was on the hospital? Ah i still dont get it. She still love sensei, she is 😩 she has a feeling for mamura but not as special as her feeling towards sensei god i high keyly want it ended up with shishioooo but i can do nothing😭😭😭 have read many shoujo but this is the first manga that successelly make me cry. Poor shishio he was a bit late to confess ahhh😭 wish he said if he loves suzume earlier. Geez im so into the story i- i just feel bad for shishio i think that i can feel how is his feeling said im too over lol.

Overall the drawings is sooo goood, both shishio and mamura are good looking kkk. Especially shishio's messy black hair and his outfit when he teaching is so fashionable. Besides, he's personality tho he is so funny and super kind.
Even it ended not as i wanted, still the storyline is good(but my heart isnt good at all im not fine with the ending)but the story teach that 'your first love isnt always a person who you ended up with'(EVEN THAT I WANT THEM TO BE TGT T_T) My new fav shoujo manga. 9/10
Mar 15, 3:27 PM
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ToG25thBaam said:

Now about the ending, I was frankly disappointed. Suzume was obviously in love with Shishio until the last chapter where he confessed to her. She was deeply in love with him so I find it hard to believe that she fell in love with Mamura and chose him over sensei. Plus, she hadn't shown any interest towards Mamura until she broke up and their relationship was not developed enough imo.
Personally, aside from the pairing I wished for, I found the ending too sudden and poorly written. It seemed to me like Suzume chose Mamura just because he cherished her so much, like she just put her feelings aside to prioritize Mamura. In other words, I think that the mangaka made a 180 degrees turn in the last couple of chapters. Not to mention that Shishio, who was on the focus for more than half of the chapters, was tossed aside for too long only to highlight Mamura.

I don't really think that's true though. in the final chapter Suzume said, that the reason she was feeling that way towards the end was she thought that she is still in love with sensei and afraid that the former feelings would return, but then finally realized that she was just afraid to let go of her nostalgia of her first love and leave it in the past. But I agree the understanding of this was not well executed and could have been developed in more that just three pages...

I don't know, sometimes you just don't choose the person you love the most passionately but a person who truly cares about you, is there for you and you can actually be together with. (This is also developed in Honey and Clover!) I know that this is a fiction, but guys, it's not like Suzume and Shishio could actually be together and realistically answer each others needs... Also agreed to that I don't understand why would Shihio be in love with Suzume in first place, it's not developed at all, unless he's just a lolicon, lol.
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Apr 28, 12:33 PM
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Loved the ending. I was so hoping that Suzume doesn't return to Sensei after all those things Mamura did for her and all the things she said to him. I was really scared when she came back to Tokyo for Sensei. The kiss was awesome 😆
Anyway, felt like Suzume will choose Mamura when he won the relay race, when she told him no to let her go and also when she refused to hear Sensei out in the infirmary. Glad that these signs were real for these couple.
May 17, 12:32 PM
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I am team Suzume and Sensei, I mean don't get me wrong Mamura is cute and all, but sensei has been a very kind hearted and nice person with Chun chun, even though he has his flaws, that's what makes him human. I really didn't like the ending, because I mean, even Mamura knew that Suzume still loved Shishio, and she literally traveled back from the beach to see Sensei in the hospital to then reject him,even though she knew deep down that she still loved him.Satsuki in the end regrets not having told Chun chun his true feelings and that he has always love her, and then she rejects him, even though she also didn't get over him?I really think the ending could've been better
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