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Nov 1, 2014 11:50 AM

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I know that the 2014 version is way superior, but I need some reasons to explain to my friend how 2006 is not as good.
 
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Nov 1, 2014 11:52 AM

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Latex Sakura
 
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Nov 1, 2014 11:53 AM
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The 2006 version doesn't exist.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:03 PM

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Dawngirl9 said:
I know that the 2014 version is way superior, but I need some reasons to explain to my friend how 2006 is not as good.
Shit story.
Shit characters.
Mediocre animation even for its time.
Only good thing was the OST.
 
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Nov 1, 2014 12:04 PM

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The 2006 version doesn't exist.

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I think that's the UBW movie. At least I've always looked at the 2006 series as an average anime, terrible adaptation.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:12 PM

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Dawngirl9 said:
I know that the 2014 version is way superior, but I need some reasons to explain to my friend how 2006 is not as good.


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=635739

Already made an explanation thread few months back.
 
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Nov 1, 2014 12:29 PM

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It's not difficult if you have working eyes.
 
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Nov 1, 2014 12:37 PM

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This man knows his stuff very well.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:51 PM

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2014 > 2006 so obviously 2014 version is better.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:55 PM

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Meh UBW movie > 2014 F/SN
 
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Nov 1, 2014 1:27 PM

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lets not forget those GAR as fuck dolphins
 
Nov 1, 2014 1:34 PM

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Anyway, This is:
VN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fate UBW(2014)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fate 2006
 
Nov 1, 2014 1:37 PM
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Animation in 2014 is better than 2006,that's about it.


 
Nov 1, 2014 1:53 PM

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2014 far superior animation.
if you heard someone bitching 2006 anime piece of horrible shit trash, ignore him. its either priest or typemoon-fags. there is nothing wrong with 2006 they are overreacting
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Nov 1, 2014 1:59 PM

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2014 far superior animation.
if you heard someone bitching 2006 anime piece of horrible shit trash, ignore him. its either priest or typemoon-fags. there is nothing wrong with 2006 they are overreacting


It's weird that everyone who knows what FSN is about dislikes the 2006 adaptaion right? Must really throw you for a loop.

This thread is a weird topic though, hard to compare them considering they cover different material.
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:06 PM

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Oh my ...

I totally forgot this ...

FUCK YOU !
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:37 PM
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Meh UBW movie > 2014 F/SN

I.... just... cant... understand...
How can a nearly 2 hour.... animation with absolutely NO story and aboslutely no characterization and scenes which DONT match the novel( last fight of UBW) be better than this show which explains and is faithful to VN?
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:39 PM

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Hetment said:
cupc said:
Meh UBW movie > 2014 F/SN

I.... just... cant... understand...
How can a nearly 2 hour.... animation with absolutely NO story and aboslutely no characterization and scenes which DONT match the novel( last fight of UBW) be better than this show which explains and is faithful to VN?
You need to check your sarcasm detector~

Well to be fair the way sarcasm around here works you need to know the user..
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:40 PM

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Hetment said:

I.... just... cant... understand...
How can a nearly 2 hour.... animation with absolutely NO story and aboslutely no characterization and scenes which DONT match the novel( last fight of UBW) be better than this show which explains and is faithful to VN?
You need to check your sarcasm detector~

Well to be fair the way sarcasm around here works you need to know the user..


Which, actually, makes things harder for me.
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:43 PM

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Hetment said:
cupc said:
Meh UBW movie > 2014 F/SN

I.... just... cant... understand...
How can a nearly 2 hour.... animation with absolutely NO story and aboslutely no characterization and scenes which DONT match the novel( last fight of UBW) be better than this show which explains and is faithful to VN?
because its only 2 hours so its not wasting my time
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How dare you steal my name
lewd is love, lewd is life !

 
Nov 1, 2014 2:47 PM

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fst said:
BotatoPriest said:
You need to check your sarcasm detector~

Well to be fair the way sarcasm around here works you need to know the user..


Which, actually, makes things harder for me.
I miss O/U thread; used to know what everyone meant with their posts. Ahh good times :')
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:49 PM

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Can't deny that having all the world's cancer in one place was nice.

...

I wonder if Angra Mainyu would have been born from it if we had kept at it long enough. Or if it were allowed to exceed 500 pages.
 
Nov 1, 2014 2:53 PM

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-w-; vs *w*
guess which is better
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Nov 1, 2014 3:05 PM

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ninjastarforcex said:
Hetment said:

I.... just... cant... understand...
How can a nearly 2 hour.... animation with absolutely NO story and aboslutely no characterization and scenes which DONT match the novel( last fight of UBW) be better than this show which explains and is faithful to VN?
because its only 2 hours so its not wasting my time
you can watch any other good movie in that 2 hours...Just because its relatively short it doesnt make it magically bearable...
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Nov 1, 2014 3:37 PM

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2006 version is better. It doesn't pointless otaku pandering with loli fanservice.
 
Nov 1, 2014 3:38 PM

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2006 version is better. It doesn't pointless otaku pandering with loli fanservice.
Actually it does.
 
Nov 1, 2014 3:42 PM

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Why not just let your friend watch both and decide for him/herself? I know, crazy idea, letting people have their own opinions.

FSN 2006 was enjoyable for what it was. It's obviously not living up to the current adaptation but I still don't regret watching it.
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Oh for the love of
-_- nvm gotta love MAL
 
Nov 1, 2014 3:42 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
antonn said:
2006 version is better. It doesn't pointless otaku pandering with loli fanservice.
Actually it does.

That's the joke :^)
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
 
Nov 1, 2014 3:45 PM

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JabonHR said:
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Actually it does.

That's the joke :^)
Well I thought he was making the other joke..

It's kinda hard to know which one is being made.
 
Nov 1, 2014 3:51 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
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That's the joke :^)
Well I thought he was making the other joke..

It's kinda hard to know which one is being made.

Why not both?
 
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Well I thought he was making the other joke..

It's kinda hard to know which one is being made.

Why not both?
Well they sort of can't exist with each other, but then again this is Nasuverse so what the hell.
 
Nov 1, 2014 4:37 PM

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2014 far superior animation.
if you heard someone bitching 2006 anime piece of horrible shit trash, ignore him. its either priest or typemoon-fags. there is nothing wrong with 2006 they are overreacting


Of course there were many things wrong with the 2006 anime. Anyone who claims that nothing was wrong in that anime isn't any better than those who declare it a piece of unwatchable trash. Neither of which I do, btw.
 
Nov 1, 2014 8:26 PM

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As someone who has never read the VN. I can tell you the 2006 version is fine, if you care not about the VN at all.

There are flaws but it is no worst then the SAO flaws. Is the 2014 version better was probably the fights are more flash. But can you enjoy the 2006 F/Sn of course you can.
 
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As someone who has never read the VN. I can tell you the 2006 version is fine, if you care not about the VN at all.

There are flaws but it is no worst then the SAO flaws. Is the 2014 version better was probably the fights are more flash. But can you enjoy the 2006 F/Sn of course you can.

I would say most of the problems that aren't seen by the anime only community is because they have zero exposure to the last route of the VN (in anime form). It is a very important route for answering many unanswered questions. In my opinion, that's where 2006FSN makes the biggest mistakes because they make a complete mockery of it.

When the Heavens Feel movie(s) come out it will become very apparent how many plot elements they completely ignored in 2006.
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Nov 1, 2014 9:12 PM

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And for the same reason, we have people spewing out stuffs like "Zero does not spoil SN"
 
Nov 1, 2014 9:29 PM
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If it is a F/SN anime on its own you might enjoy the 2006 version. While the focus is on the Fate route they also through in little nods UBW and HF, and those will probably get lost on you.

Personally speaking I enjoyed the 2006 version, but I also watched Fate/Zero and did some research on the VN(No major spoilage) before watching the 2006 anime so the implications ended up making sense to me. It has flaws, what doesn't, but was a fun experience for me.

UBW Movie I would only watch if you watched 2006 anime beforehand because it has to skip like half a series worth of content to get to big fights while still making some sense.If the 2014 anime is your first exposure to UBW then just stick with it.

As to the question of which anime is better: the 2006 anime is already done, but the 2014 version won't be done till late next spring. I don't compare finished and unfinished products.
 
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She isn't working on it this time around and she won't be there to fuck things up even more like she usually does. Also Deen isn't doing it so that's a plus as well.
 
Nov 2, 2014 12:00 AM

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Couldn't bare the 2006 version. They made Shirou annoying, plus the fights felt pretty slow. Before I knew about the VN, I thought Shirou was a generic shounen protag.
 
Nov 2, 2014 12:22 AM

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Bullcrap, 2006 animated Fate while 2014 animated UBW. Why comparing the two but the answer is obviously 2014 in terms of everything?

This is why I really want a Fate remake so everybody will be now happy and satisfied that ufotable adapted F/SN's three routes.
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Bullcrap, 2006 animated Fate while 2014 animated UBW. Why comparing the two but the answer is obviously 2014 in terms of everything?

This is why I really want a Fate remake so everybody will be now happy and satisfied that ufotable adapted F/SN's three routes.


2006 did not adapt fate route.
 
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Bullcrap, 2006 animated Fate while 2014 animated UBW. Why comparing the two but the answer is obviously 2014 in terms of everything?

This is why I really want a Fate remake so everybody will be now happy and satisfied that ufotable adapted F/SN's three routes.


2006 did not adapt fate route.
It did. It adapted parts of UBW and HF too. It was just very badly and, for source readers, very unsatisfactorily adapted. Unless you want to pretend the 2006 anime didn't exist, then yes, the Fate route wasn't adapted in 2006.
 
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2006 did not adapt fate route.
It did. It adapted parts of UBW and HF too. It was just very badly and, for source readers, very unsatisfactorily adapted. Unless you want to pretend the 2006 anime didn't exist, then yes, the Fate route wasn't adapted in 2006.


2006 Took like ~20% of fate (all saber shit), 5% of HF and 10% if UBW and filled in the rest with their own bullshit.
 
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2006 did not adapt fate route.
It did. It adapted parts of UBW and HF too. It was just very badly and, for source readers, very unsatisfactorily adapted. Unless you want to pretend the 2006 anime didn't exist, then yes, the Fate route wasn't adapted in 2006.
I like to think of it more of a general VN adaptation (as in not a particular route) with Fate shipping and ending. Also they missed SO MUCH stuff from Fate route, if that's what they were aiming to adapt...
 
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I watched the 2006 anime before i even read the VN, and it was one of the most boring anime i've ever seen, it was so boring i even slept while watching the last 4-5 episodes.(which is a first one for me).
Then i started to read the VN(which i haven't finished so far because i'm too busy)and watched Fate/Zero.

So yeah, 2014 Ufotable > 2006 DEEN.
And to each their own, some people find 2006 great, some find it bad. In my case it was in the middle while watching it, but after reading some of the VN i'd say i hate it not because i'm a fanboy(not as much as Fai and the rest), But because i can't force myself to say something is good after knowing it's original material and the possibilities the show could've had but missed due to bad staff or time limit.

But in the end i'd say let him have his own opinions, forcing people into saying what they don't want to admit or say will always backfire at you.
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It did. It adapted parts of UBW and HF too. It was just very badly and, for source readers, very unsatisfactorily adapted. Unless you want to pretend the 2006 anime didn't exist, then yes, the Fate route wasn't adapted in 2006.
I like to think of it more of a general VN adaptation (as in not a particular route) with Fate shipping and ending. Also they missed SO MUCH stuff from Fate route, if that's what they were aiming to adapt...

How much did they not adapt?
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Watch both.

2006 version is underrated because of VN fanboys.
 
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Watch both.

2006 version is underrated because of VN fanboys.


Lets see about the 2006 version,spoilers obviously:

16 episodes of Shirou constantly bitching and moaning until he gets up his stupid ass and actually somewhat did anything,Archer introduced and appearing only at the beginning and only showed up
, "strong" but still in need of constant protection waifu Saber every single damn episode,Gilgamesh barely introduced right at the very end.....
Yup clearly a underrated gem.
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I like to think of it more of a general VN adaptation (as in not a particular route) with Fate shipping and ending. Also they missed SO MUCH stuff from Fate route, if that's what they were aiming to adapt...

How much did they not adapt?


Anything and everything not related to Saber.
 
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