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Nov 1, 2014 12:12 PM

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It can't be just non-stop fighting, this isn't a Micheal Bay movie.
That's not it, the infodumping and PTSD scene were both clumsy ways of conveying information to the viewer. I could care less for the action scenes if the slow, building moments were actually well written and directed but they aren't. What does cooking have to offer to the themes of Unlimited Blade Works? Why did Saber become a walking, talking textbook labeled "HGW for dummies?", why aren't they making changes so that we don't waste any time on Sakura?
The infodumping was a major con in the source material and it seems to have carried over here as well. The only worthwhile scenes in this ep were Kuzuki's intro, Mitzusuri briefly going into Shirou's state when engaging in archery, and Archer's figuring out of Caster.


F/sn is not F/sn without cooking and Sakura scenes.
 
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:13 PM

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Berserker's regeneration was explained a bit, so now I got the gist of it.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:14 PM

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Hmm, the golems look like dinosaurs...Did they change it from the original? Yeah, totes :3
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Nov 1, 2014 12:14 PM

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So much foreshadowing. Even people who didn't read VN could guess a lot.....
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Nov 1, 2014 12:16 PM

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Or on formidable sized Illya fanbase formed by her being MC in her own show.

 
Nov 1, 2014 12:17 PM

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This was just wonderful. The pacing was according to me better than I could have imagined, Illya scene felt dark and omnious (Which is always a good thing), Saber meeting Shirou's friends felt warm and nice and some CGI spooky, scary skeletons to mix things up added some mystery to the whole thing.

But Saber's staring contest with Kuzuki was probably my favorite scene though, next to Ayako's flashing unlimited budget works talk with Shirou! I mean, we got to see him for abit as well as how perfect (and dangerous) of a man he is, with some omnious music in the background and exciting tension between Saber and Kuzuki.

OST was reeeeally good this episode, Hideyuki keeps on switching between remaking F/SN and F/Z osts with his own nice touch on it, as well as adding lots of new variations and completely OC music. And to that, I tip my (non-existent) hat!

Side notes: While it was nice to see some skeletons I do hope they make them look less choppy on the BD-version, hopefully they'll have more time to make the skeletons for later in on the series look better before the BD-release as well.

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Spooky dinosaurs and stupid sexy Illya


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Nov 1, 2014 12:17 PM

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Rin vs Golems was in the VN.


You're probably right (I honestly don't remember it), but it definitely seemed a bit more...... exaggerated, I guess? I mean, the giant golem thing I don't think was in the VN, but regardless I liked the fight.


The fight is mentioned in the VN, but you didn't actually see it like you did here.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:18 PM

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Good episode, well I wasn't expecting to be "wowed" or anything here so this was fine. I really did like the scene between Mitsuzuri and Shirou, though. Particularly the look on his face after she says he never smiles.


I liked all the body language in that scene, like how shirou puts his hands in his pockets(hiding the facts/trying to avoid the situation) when she asks about rejoining the archery club.

I really liked all of his expressions in the scene and how he got the ptsd-trigger to the Great Fire at the thought of smiling.


I liked that part as well. Getting the quick flashback to the fire was a nice touch and gives you an idea of why Shirou is a little off from everyone else.

Also every time I see Mitsuzuri, I just can't stop thinking of Shiki lol. I like how the Nasuniverse has doppelgangers and that the doppelgangers actually have some slightly important rolls. Makes things more interesting I think.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:18 PM

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mirakura said:
Hmm, the golems look like dinosaurs...Did they change it from the original? Yeah, totes :3

If I remember correctly, there were no golems at this point in the VN.
And since the original ones give out Caster's identity almost instantly, maybe they decided to use dog skeletons (somehow they look like dog skeletons, not dinosaurs, for me) for now.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:19 PM

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Putting Ilya aside


No need. There will be movies for that. THey just need to add scenes to get the point across that VN readers had from fate route about the nature of the place and that character. Everything else is in movies.

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I liked that part as well. Getting the quick flashback to the fire was a nice touch and gives you an idea of why Shirou is a little off from everyone else.
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Not as much of a flashback as a trigger. Flashback is something you recall. A triggering experience triggers whole experience back at the person. Can result in some quite nasty stuff like panic attacks, passing out, fits of rage, etc.

We saw him have one in the Church when Great Fire was mentioned too.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:19 PM

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I'm surprised they're actually managing to waste this much time. All this slice of life crap just falls flat, the animation is lazy and so is the voice acting, everything just seems so insincere. I don't need minutes of my life wasted with nothing happening on screen, no plot, no character development, just them eating a meal or doing other cutesy shit. These eps could be halved and still contain the same amount of plot & character development, this specific ep could even be quartered.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:20 PM

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Worst episode so far, somehow topping the prologue. I was really enjoying myself getting the overhead view of them all sitting down for dinner, hey maybe next week we might get treated to Shirou chopping some cabbages for five minutes. Naked loli fanservice and harem slice of life? This series wavers between low/high tier garbage. It's genuinely criminal that series like this get such a budget.

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Nov 1, 2014 12:22 PM

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I am really enjoying this show, the pacing is just right i think. I wish they were all 40 minute episodes tbh. There so much stuff id love to learn about in the universe!
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Nov 1, 2014 12:24 PM

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So many people here just go and watch DEEN 2010 movie, so that "main plot" could come fast. LMAO.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:24 PM

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Seeing the servants fight though, I always look up a lot on their abilities and stats to see how portrayed they are when it comes to this adaptation. But this kinda exceeds my expectations a lot.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:25 PM
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Worst episode so far, somehow topping the prologue. I was really enjoying myself getting the overhead view of them all sitting down for dinner, hey maybe next week we might get treated to Shirou chopping some cabbages for five minutes. Naked loli fanservice and harem slice of life? This series wavers between low/high tier garbage. It's genuinely criminal that series like this get such a budget.

>inb4 priest reply that the loli scene was 'fitting, deep and symbolic' or that this episode wasn't a harem one.

I'm already laughing.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:25 PM

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So many people here just just go and watch DEEN 2010 movie, so that "main plot" could come fast. LMAO.


I am already laughing at people going "wtf nothing happened"

Those expecting an "action show" might as well drop this. UBW is all about character exploration, through and through. Shirou's daily life and changes in it are part of that.


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Harem what?


Don't you know - it has more than one female in cast. it is TOTALLY a harem. Mahoyo is a harem too then. "harem" of friendship that is
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:25 PM

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And what the hell happened to Lancer he hasnt shown up since episode 2

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Nov 1, 2014 12:27 PM

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not an interesting ep this time, though i was expecting it after the previous fight
so Ilyas maids are completely different from the ones in Kaleid
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:28 PM

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The in depth explanation of the different classes is just one more reason why this is meant to be seen before F/Z.

Of course hoping that people realize this is as fruitless as thinking nobody will bitch about an episode that doesn't have an action scene every 5 minutes.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:29 PM
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Really not sure why they felt they needed to put a bath scene with an 8 year old... but whatever I just skipped it once I realized what was up.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:30 PM

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CookingPriest said:

Not as much of a flashback as a trigger. Flashback is something you recall. A triggering experience triggers whole experience back at the person. Can result in some quite nasty stuff like panic attacks, passing out, fits of rage, etc.

We saw him have one in the Church when Great Fire was mentioned too.


Ya, that's a more accurate way to call it. It was well done how they handled that scene.
 
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skudoops said:
Really not sure why they felt they needed to put a bath scene with an 8 year old... but whatever I just skipped it once I realized what was up.

What she said is important.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:30 PM

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Too much Shirou... 1/5.
 
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not an interesting ep this time, though i was expecting it after the previous fight
so Ilyas maids are completely different from the ones in Kaleid

Yeah one of them scared the crap out of me
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Nov 1, 2014 12:31 PM

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Really solid episode. I liked the pace of this episode quite a bit and they did a pretty good job with the slice of life imo. Nice foreshadowing as well. The extra scenes were a pretty nice touch as well.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:31 PM

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Arcanix said:
Too much Shirou... 1/5.


DEEN poison is so strong in this one.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:33 PM
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skudoops said:
Really not sure why they felt they needed to put a bath scene with an 8 year old... but whatever I just skipped it once I realized what was up.
She's


It doesn't really matter

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skudoops said:
Really not sure why they felt they needed to put a bath scene with an 8 year old... but whatever I just skipped it once I realized what was up.

What she said is important.


Meh was short enough that I don't think I missed too much. I also did the same thing when they tried to pull that shit in Monogatari, but that was far worse.. I wanted to drop the whole show after that.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:34 PM

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Holy shit, Sakura was actually not annoying this episode, is this real life ?

5/5
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:35 PM

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as much as i like michael bay fight scenes, these slow pace slice of life scenes were great. even after watching deen's fsn and ubw, im still thoroughly enjoying this adaption.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:35 PM
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Kind of boring since I've already read the VN. Can't wait for more fight scenes.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:36 PM

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skudoops said:
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She's (spoiler that shit).


Meh it doesn't really matter, she looks 8 and I know there's a reason for that.

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What she said is important.

Meh was short enough that I don't think I missed too much. I also did the same thing when they tried to pull that shit in Monogatari, but that was far worse.. I wanted to drop the whole show after that.

You miss thing about the power of Berserker and why she go after Shirou.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:37 PM

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To be fair, Taiga was tiny so she could be cute. Ilya is tiny because reasons, more than just to be cute.
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CookingPriest said:
chickenonthepan said:
So many people here just just go and watch DEEN 2010 movie, so that "main plot" could come fast. LMAO.


I am already laughing at people going "wtf nothing happened"

Those expecting an "action show" might as well drop this. UBW is all about character exploration, through and through. Shirou's daily life and changes in it are part of that.



Exactly.

This isn't just a mindless action show, but more about the characters, plot, and world. Not to say that the action isn't fucking awesome though, it's just not the main focus. But even the action and fight scenes are all well thought out. With the Berserker fight, for example, we had so many different character motivations, strategy, skill, and foreshadow. So much that we can have a long lengthy discussion just about what was going on behind the scenes in that fight.

I think that speaks for itself right there on how much depth this series has.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:38 PM

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Aren't we supposed to spoiler her fucking age since its kind of HUGE spoiler as it was NOT revealed yet?

Spoiler that shit.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:39 PM

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Another amazing episode, Saber's new outfit is lovely :3
I like all of these slight changes and foreshadowing, too. Ufotable certainly knows what they are doing.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:39 PM

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Wow, I have checked other forums and I have to say this episode sure has gotten a lot of hate.
 
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Oh yeah, get hyped for the next episode because shits get real :)

I love the pacing so far. There not going too fast, it's the opposite in fact, since they are adding new scenes to the original scenario, like the one with Ilya and the one with Mitsuzuri. The encounter with Kuzuki-sensei is quite interesting too.

Rin is being her habitual tsundere.




Aaaand, now she's doing her spooky face :O



Shirou imidiately regret it...



The food show has started, fuck yeah.


And Shirou is having an awkward souper xD


How to make Saber happy in one simple step :


Fate/stay loli butt.


''Will senpai ever notice me?''


Happy Sakura is best Sakura.


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Aren't we supposed to spoiler her fucking age since its kind of HUGE spoiler as it was NOT revealed yet?

Spoiler that shit.


Does it matter? She's not a big part of the story.
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:41 PM

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yellowmumba said:
CookingPriest said:
Aren't we supposed to spoiler her fucking age since its kind of HUGE spoiler as it was NOT revealed yet?

Spoiler that shit.


Does it matter? She's not a big part of the story.

Like Horton Hears A Who said, a spoiler's a spoiler, no matter how small.

Plus if not here, she'll become relevant during the HF Movie(s) anyway, and it's not like anyone in their right mind will watch that before UBW.
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CookingPriest said:
Aren't we supposed to spoiler her fucking age since its kind of HUGE spoiler as it was NOT revealed yet?

Spoiler that shit.


It's kind of too late now since it's already been quoted..... :/
 
Nov 1, 2014 12:42 PM

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Lots of great bonding in this episode.
CG looked pretty good in Rin's scene.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:42 PM

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AHHH, it's so perfect.

Rin never ceases to be a badass.

I loved the OST this episode.
 
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Vexper said:
Worst episode so far, somehow topping the prologue. I was really enjoying myself getting the overhead view of them all sitting down for dinner, hey maybe next week we might get treated to Shirou chopping some cabbages for five minutes. Naked loli fanservice and harem slice of life? This series wavers between low/high tier garbage. It's genuinely criminal that series like this get such a budget.

>inb4 priest reply that the loli scene was 'fitting, deep and symbolic' or that this episode wasn't a harem one.

I'm already laughing.


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CookingPriest said:
Aren't we supposed to spoiler her fucking age since its kind of HUGE spoiler as it was NOT revealed yet?

Spoiler that shit.


*Sigh*, what's done is done I guess.
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Great episode, just everything about it was done well. I never fail to love when Fujimura gets attention. And the ptsd is a great addition, it never hit as hard before but it makes me remember that Shirou is haunted very much by his past.

lol at this thread too, the people that started shit in other threads trying to bait the priests again.
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JabonHR said:
yellowmumba said:


Does it matter? She's not a big part of the story.

Like Horton Hears A Who said, a spoiler's a spoiler, no matter how small.

Plus if not here, she'll become relevant during the HF Movie(s) anyway, and it's not like anyone in their right mind will watch that before UBW.

She's relevant in Heaven's Feel?
 
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Vexper said:
Worst episode so far, somehow topping the prologue. I was really enjoying myself getting the overhead view of them all sitting down for dinner, hey maybe next week we might get treated to Shirou chopping some cabbages for five minutes. Naked loli fanservice and harem slice of life? This series wavers between low/high tier garbage. It's genuinely criminal that series like this get such a budget.

>inb4 priest reply that the loli scene was 'fitting, deep and symbolic' or that this episode wasn't a harem one.

I'm already laughing.


Nothing wrong with a little build up.
Keep in mind that this will probably have another season.
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yellowmumba said:
JabonHR said:

Like Horton Hears A Who said, a spoiler's a spoiler, no matter how small.

Plus if not here, she'll become relevant during the HF Movie(s) anyway, and it's not like anyone in their right mind will watch that before UBW.

She's relevant in Heaven's Feel?

I thought you said you read the VN.
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