Does anyone else not like Watari?

type-beta said:

You must hate harems then. And no one is playing with anyone's heart. You're just playing with your fantasy. I didn't see any promise exchange. Or maybe I'm too antiquated and today when you talk to a girl you're automatically engaged to her.

I don't remember the exact words being used, but for example "cute" has different shades and may encompass more than the look alone. You can say that a kid or a puppy is cute and talk at the same time about the look and the behavior.
Don't just hate for the sake of hating. It's not like Watari is going to steal Kaori from you.

Kaori isn't interested in Kousei's look, just his piano skills. I have to admit that taking advantage of one's own abilities for one's own gain sounds almost better than judging something based on appearance alone.

Isn't Kaori two-timing Kousei. I mean, they walked home together and even went to a café.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also I don't see how Kaori is two-timing Kousei, they're not even dating.

IhateWatari4 said:
About the playing with someone's heart I'm not talking about this manga/anime.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also I'm fine with most harems as long as the MC

IhateWatari4 said:
Also yes cute can be used for many things, but I don't see how it could mean anything but looks after her performance when he says "You were really cute up there". He commented on how she looked and not on how she did first, in fact he said nothing to her about the performance.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also Kaori's last accompianist quit and she needed a new one, so why not use one that you know?

IhateWatari4 said:
Not to mention if I remember correctly she knows he quit and is maybe trying to get him to play again.

IhateWatari4 said:
When you said the whole when you talk to a girl you're automatically engaged to her I never once said anything close to that. Not to mention you say Kaori if two-timing... but how does walking home together and going to a cafe mean you're dating automatically?

IhateWatari4 said:

Oh and another thing about after her performance Kousei talks about her receiving flowers from those 2 girls not about how she looks. She's up there to perform not to look pretty for Watari. I mean what if you were up there performing and afterwords he's just like "you looked cute"... not a single word on how you did performance wise.

type-beta said:

I simply applied the same logic that was used in this thread (also your logic by the way). I'm pretty surprised you agreed on the absurdity of this though.

You must hate harems then. And no one is playing with anyone's heart. You're just playing with your fantasy. I didn't see any promise exchange. Or maybe I'm too antiquated and today when you talk to a girl you're automatically engaged to her.

We're talking about this anime so I inferred that your general statement applied also to this anime.
Double standards.
"That was awesome! You were so cute! It was incredible.". This is what he says after the first performance. Lines taken out of context (as always) are deceptive and misleading. Those are fitting compliments from someone who doesn't know anything about music.
She barely knows him. She just happened to stumble upon a world renown gifted pianist and thus, going full opportunist, she decided to catch the ball. The timing couldn't have been better.
So now she also has the "saviour syndrome".

type-beta said:
I simply applied the same logic that was used in this thread (also your logic by the way). I'm pretty surprised you agreed on the absurdity of this though.
We're talking about this anime so I inferred that your general statement applied also to this anime.
Double standards.
"That was awesome! You were so cute! It was incredible.". This is what he says after the first performance. Lines taken out of context (as always) are deceptive and misleading. Those are fitting compliments from someone who doesn't know anything about music.
She barely knows him. She just happened to stumble upon a world renown gifted pianist and thus, going full opportunist, she decided to catch the ball. The timing couldn't have been better.
So now she also has the "saviour syndrome".

EDIT:
It was a provocative statement. Already answered above. It was to make you realize how it was foolish to hate the guy for apparently playing with the heart of a girl he barely talked to.
Watari DID comment about the performance (read better). He is just a man of few words. And Kousei is saved by the shaking hand. He was going to say something indifferent and detached.

IhateWatari4 said:
Show me the logic you're talking about.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also I wqs reading the manga and he said no such thing, they probably addes it in for the anime to make he seem like he didn't only care about how she looked up there.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also no matter if you're into music or not you should be able to tell if someone's good or not.

IhateWatari4 said:
He's not world renowned that I know of, I never once saw them say that.

IhateWatari4 said:
Besides who is going to accompany a violin that's hard to follow, I pretty sure word would get around because Tsubaki said it was a small world. Also I said maybe, I have no idea what she's thinking.

IhateWatari4 said:
On mangahere he says nothing about her performance so I don't know where you saw it. But even if Kousei was going to say something indifferent, he didn't.

type-beta said:
Read the thread. People calls him n-timer and thinks he is dating Kaori just because they spoke to one another a couple of times and supposedly were going to walk home together. This was debated. No evidence was given. People still flies with fantasy. You called him playboy.
Or maybe the manga translators forgot to translate/mistranslated something
He gave her compliments, I quoted them above.
Watch closer. I recall something about "youngest winner in (insert famous competition here)", "someone we (younger musicians) look up to", "every musician of our generation knows you"...watch the scene with the cat in the third episode. Also, didn't you see how the judges of the competition immediately recognized him?
She's opportunistic, that's what she's thinking.
I'm watching the anime. This is a discussion about the anime. Translators make mistakes.

IhateWatari4 said:
Kaori? You mean Keiko right?

IhateWatari4 said:
Yes, he did give her a compliment but it was only on looks in the manga (source material) but according to you he said more.

IhateWatari4 said:
But as I said before they could have added that. Also when she says every musician in our generation knows you could be a overstatement or just kids in Japan. Also the judges recognize him because they're from Japan and supposely he's famous. You don't have to be world famous to be recognized in a community.

IhateWatari4 said:
Yes this a discussion about the anime I'm just saying from the translated source material he said nothing about her performance.

IhateWatari4 said:
Also you don't seem to like Kaori very much and seem to think she takes advantage of people. So I think Watari is shallow and is only interested in looks and you think Kaori takes advantage of people, right?

type-beta said:
No, Kaori...people is sure/thinks that Watari is dating Kaori. As I said, questions were raised, answers weren't given.
Nope. I already read Diamond Dust and watched Nodame Cantabile which put together are basically the same story, the adult version.
It was an overstatement on my part. He is very well known and was considered one of the best of his generation. She knows that.
Quickly skimming through the second chapter I saw he clearly praised the performance. Not in front of her...one panel was probably not enough space.
Not saying she takes advantage of people, just of Kousei as far as the story goes. She's a pretty typical character with strong traits and character. I don't particularly like her nor despise her. I'm simply stating and reporting what I see. People seems to be entranced by the music and pretty visuals (and sakura petals...obviously...they can't miss one episode) of this anime and considers Kaori more than what she really is (at the moment at least). She had good moments, said something laudable, but also acted selfishly and forcibly (remember that she barely knows Kousei). People likes her because she encompasses what adolescence represents and because she's part of the shipping pairing. People identifies with the MC (this is a shounen) and thus feels the need to protect the couple. Every threat, Watari included, must be hated. And the execution of the anime clearly helps in delivering this. Also, no one seems to care about Tsubaki, the true victim of the last episode. She's another threat; empathy is undeserved. Despite being the only one worried about Kousei's condition. I didn't read the manga but if the love polygon and teen melodrama happen, "favorite pairing" threads will bloom like it were spring.

Smudy said:
Watari looks like the generic playboy character for now, he's basicly the only thing about this series that still keeps it from being 10/10 at the moment. He really needs some more character development.

SolvitePriest said:


they are all generic.

Watari is obviously secretly in love with the softball girl, who is secretly in love with kousei.

Its just a generic love square anime like everything pa works makes, but with music to make hipsters "relate".

SolvitePriest said:


they are all generic.

Watari is obviously secretly in love with the softball girl, who is secretly in love with kousei.

Its just a generic love square anime like everything pa works makes, but with music to make hipsters "relate".

SolvitePriest said:


they are all generic.

Watari is obviously secretly in love with the softball girl, who is secretly in love with kousei.

Its just a generic love square anime like everything pa works makes, but with music to make hipsters "relate".

Kamima said:
All of the characters in the show are pretty horrible.

TheOneOtaku said:


They're not that bad, are they? I mean, they're just middle schoolers living in the time of their youth.

TheOneOtaku said:
The anime just begun, so you don't get to know a lot about the characters. You shouldn't judge an anime until you watch it to the ending.

JizzyHitler said:
hes like the only character i dont hate, poor kid is subjected to selfish bullies all around him using him for their own benefit at expense of his mental being

QuattroVaginas said:

...Watari?

Confucius said:
Why is your name "IhateWartari4" is IhateWatari1 stolen?

IhateWatari4 said:
He pisses me off, all he ever does is comment on Kaori's looks while making stupid faces. I understand if you see a cute person and want to get to know them but he comments on her looks all the time! As some people commented that Watari's talk with Kousei in ep. 2 at around 17 min. is a good thing and makes him a better character. But before he starts his advice or whatever you want to call it he comments on how Kaori's cute again... really dude we get it. Also when Kousei said he can see why Watari's chick magnet, Watari replies by saying "You bet. There are plenty of girls I like." it could be a bad translation but if not... no respect. At least Kaori doesn't comment on his looks all the time, she just thought he was cute and wanted to get to know him. Also as someone pointed out in a comment below he hints about something in ep. 2 if anyone missed that. If that means what I think it means then it makes it even worse that he's playing around with Kaori. Not mention if what he hinted at is true, then he needs to stop this stuff with Kaori and be upfront about it. I mean your bestfriend likes her (I'm pretty sure as of now) and you know that, so why are you getting in the way? Don't discuss or spoil anything past what happens in the latest episode. KoarixKousei <3