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Oct 29, 2014 4:00 PM
#51
I'm interested if the next tankōbon of Fūka will sale as much as volume 3. |
Oct 29, 2014 6:48 PM
#52
To see those two top the light novel list pleases me greatly! |
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Oct 29, 2014 6:59 PM
#53
Again some light novels missing from the list this week, but luckily only 1 since a lot charted on all the lists (Bunko, Books, Light Novels). Rank / Last week rank / Weeks charted / Weekly sales / Cumulative sales / Release date / Days since release / Novel Title 文芸週間20 18 10 **6 **3,824 154,748 14/09/17 **40 Zoku Owarimonogatari (続・終物語) 20 ** *** **3,136 (Cut-Off) |
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Oct 29, 2014 7:07 PM
#54
Oct 29, 2014 7:31 PM
#55
Yeaaah Tokyo ghoul :D I hope it crosses the 600k mark by next week. |
Oct 29, 2014 7:44 PM
#56
32k for Madan no Ou to Vanadis! That's pretty good for a light novel. Hopefully the anime will have good sales as well. |
Oct 29, 2014 8:01 PM
#58
Oct 30, 2014 12:51 AM
#61
Woo TG top fan boy moooooooode |
Oct 30, 2014 12:52 AM
#62
Koe no Katachi doing well. Anime adaptation possible, maybe? |
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Oct 30, 2014 1:19 AM
#63
I'm surprised no one adapted Vinland Saga yet. Its been amazing up to the latest chapter. I can see those in it for the action to be complaining after it gets to the Slave Arc though. That arc had one of the best character developments I've ever seen in manga. If it does get adapted, better be by a good studio. With Koe no Katachi ending soon, I can see an anime adaptation for it. I'd prefer it if an adaptation completes the story rather than leave it hanging after it ends. |
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Oct 30, 2014 3:33 AM
#64
Kyaaa ~~~Oresama <3 |
Oct 30, 2014 4:56 AM
#65
YEAH GO GO TOKYO GHOUL!😀😀 |
Oct 30, 2014 5:24 AM
#66
TG top woo |
Oct 30, 2014 6:12 AM
#67
32,488 *32,488 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.10 Nice little frist week boost due to the anime. Just wish they had more confidence with the series and had given the anime the budget it deserved rather than the cut down novel summary it's getting. |
Oct 30, 2014 6:36 AM
#68
Newhopes said: 32,488 *32,488 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.10 Nice little frist week boost due to the anime. Just wish they had more confidence with the series and had given the anime the budget it deserved rather than the cut down novel summary it's getting. I think the madan anime it lacking even as a summary(as its badly written and a misrepresentation ) still we will see how much the sales of the light novel have increased in the next couple of weeks as it usually gets the top spot on the first week of a new volume being released |
Oct 30, 2014 6:52 AM
#69
ikramit said: Newhopes said: 32,488 *32,488 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.10 Nice little frist week boost due to the anime. Just wish they had more confidence with the series and had given the anime the budget it deserved rather than the cut down novel summary it's getting. I think the madan anime it lacking even as a summary(as its badly written and a misrepresentation ) still we will see how much the sales of the light novel have increased in the next couple of weeks as it usually gets the top spot on the first week of a new volume being released Nope the main story line is intact it's just rushed and missing alot of the character development especially for characters like Lim and Mashas. Madan usually sells around 25k frist week so it had a healthly boost. |
Oct 30, 2014 7:00 AM
#70
20. *43,358 *43,358 Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaete mo Omaera ga Warui! Vol.7 Really happy about WataMote, I wish it was getting 100k+ sales in it's first week but I guess it doesn't get that much attention. |
Oct 30, 2014 11:25 AM
#71
Oct 30, 2014 1:15 PM
#72
I heard that this volume of TG only has 3 chapters and so is cheaper than usual. I wonder if those sales are partly due to that or if that is really the permanent fanbase. Either way, I'm really glad for it and hyped for season 2. |
Oct 30, 2014 1:30 PM
#73
Agafin said: I heard that this volume of TG only has 3 chapters and so is cheaper than usual. I wonder if those sales are partly due to that or if that is really the permanent fanbase. Either way, I'm really glad for it and hyped for season 2. Last volume has 11 chapters not 3. |
Oct 30, 2014 2:05 PM
#75
Agafin said: I heard that this volume of TG only has 3 chapters and so is cheaper than usual. I wonder if those sales are partly due to that or if that is really the permanent fanbase. Either way, I'm really glad for it and hyped for season 2. I subscribe tokyo ghoul since before it has anime or have all translated chapters, and since that time the series sold over 150,000 copies, for a seinen manga no anime, it was very at that very time, then it is logical to say that the series has already a solid fan base. |
Oct 30, 2014 2:45 PM
#76
Tokyo ghoul had been publishing 400k per volume before anime adaptation,and now it has surpassed 550k per volume so it is not weird And also people don't buy random volume of manga just because it is cheaper than usual Plus volume14 is same price as other volume |
umashikanekoOct 30, 2014 2:53 PM
Oct 30, 2014 7:00 PM
#77
umashikaneko said: Tokyo ghoul had been publishing 400k per volume before anime adaptation,and now it has surpassed 550k per volume so it is not weird And also people don't buy random volume of manga just because it is cheaper than usual Plus volume14 is same price as other volume TG was doing 300K per volume before Anime adaptation. |
Oct 30, 2014 7:02 PM
#78
TG anime sucks and wasnt worth the sales boost. |
Oct 30, 2014 7:38 PM
#79
Sakubo777 said: I'm surprised no one adapted Vinland Saga yet. Its been amazing up to the latest chapter. I can see those in it for the action to be complaining after it gets to the Slave Arc though. That arc had one of the best character developments I've ever seen in manga. If it does get adapted, better be by a good studio. With Koe no Katachi ending soon, I can see an anime adaptation for it. I'd prefer it if an adaptation completes the story rather than leave it hanging after it ends. imo, this series feels like a series that should be fully adopted. Maybe when the manga ends it will get a full adaption, like what's happening to parasyte. |
Oct 30, 2014 8:53 PM
#80
LordPerucho said: umashikaneko said: Tokyo ghoul had been publishing 400k per volume before anime adaptation,and now it has surpassed 550k per volume so it is not weird And also people don't buy random volume of manga just because it is cheaper than usual Plus volume14 is same price as other volume TG was doing 300K per volume before Anime adaptation. the sauce from 6/19 says more than 4.5 million for the day vol12 start to sell. so it is more than 370k per volume 2 weeks before anime airing and that are not even included second publishment of vol12. anime started 7/3 the sauce from 7/17 says 5.2 million for 12 volume which is more than 430k so it is mostlikely about 400k right before anime airing. |
Oct 31, 2014 12:10 AM
#81
TG sold very less before the adaption. At best it sold 300k IIRC. |
Oct 31, 2014 12:26 AM
#82
ikramit said: Newhopes said: 32,488 *32,488 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.10 Nice little frist week boost due to the anime. Just wish they had more confidence with the series and had given the anime the budget it deserved rather than the cut down novel summary it's getting. I think the madan anime it lacking even as a summary(as its badly written and a misrepresentation ) still we will see how much the sales of the light novel have increased in the next couple of weeks as it usually gets the top spot on the first week of a new volume being released Madan has ranked in the top 10 series every week so far since the anime started airing. The first week for this volume was about 25% higher than the last one, in the same number of days. |
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Oct 31, 2014 6:34 AM
#84
umashikaneko said: LordPerucho said: umashikaneko said: Tokyo ghoul had been publishing 400k per volume before anime adaptation,and now it has surpassed 550k per volume so it is not weird And also people don't buy random volume of manga just because it is cheaper than usual Plus volume14 is same price as other volume TG was doing 300K per volume before Anime adaptation. the sauce from 6/19 says more than 4.5 million for the day vol12 start to sell. so it is more than 370k per volume 2 weeks before anime airing and that are not even included second publishment of vol12. anime started 7/3 the sauce from 7/17 says 5.2 million for 12 volume which is more than 430k so it is mostlikely about 400k right before anime airing. When discussing about sales, we often refer to sales of newer volumes rather than average sales. That's why you hear people saying that One piece sells 3 million even though it's average is around 5-6 million. The sales of recent volumes is a better indicator of the current fanbase. Either way, it seems I was wrong about it's latest volume containing only 3 chapters. So, with 500k per volume after 2 weeks, does that make TG the best selling seinen per volume? |
Oct 31, 2014 7:52 AM
#86
-Katsu-kun- said: Needs a third season of anime to boost the manga sales back up! Please....Chihayafuru slipping down.. |
Oct 31, 2014 9:51 AM
#87
hpulley said: -Katsu-kun- said: Needs a third season of anime to boost the manga sales back up! Please....Chihayafuru slipping down.. Hmmm...so should we be hoping for lower manga sales so that maybe it increases the chance of a 3rd anime season? If so maybe we should tell everyone in Japan to STOP BUYING CHIHAYAFURU RIGHT NOW! =O |
Oct 31, 2014 6:52 PM
#88
Agafin said: umashikaneko said: LordPerucho said: umashikaneko said: Tokyo ghoul had been publishing 400k per volume before anime adaptation,and now it has surpassed 550k per volume so it is not weird And also people don't buy random volume of manga just because it is cheaper than usual Plus volume14 is same price as other volume TG was doing 300K per volume before Anime adaptation. the sauce from 6/19 says more than 4.5 million for the day vol12 start to sell. so it is more than 370k per volume 2 weeks before anime airing and that are not even included second publishment of vol12. anime started 7/3 the sauce from 7/17 says 5.2 million for 12 volume which is more than 430k so it is mostlikely about 400k right before anime airing. When discussing about sales, we often refer to sales of newer volumes rather than average sales. That's why you hear people saying that One piece sells 3 million even though it's average is around 5-6 million. The sales of recent volumes is a better indicator of the current fanbase. Either way, it seems I was wrong about it's latest volume containing only 3 chapters. So, with 500k per volume after 2 weeks, does that make TG the best selling seinen per volume? You mean oricon estimation? Oricon estimation is by no means actual sales but speculation they collect data only from 2000 shops when there are more than 50,000 shops that sell manga in Japan and multiple x times that number. Some manga are very over(under)rated because they sell more manga at shops that are mainly (not) counted by oricon. And also faster seller are much overrated than slower seller on oricon chart,so I don't think it is good indicator of popularity.Some manga sell 40 percent of its sales in first month while some manga sell 90 percent of its sales in first month. Vagabond has published 60 million for 35 volume 1 million for Vol35 first edition which is currentely more popular manga I think. I think oricon estimation ranking is very interesting data because it is easy to compare each manga as long as people keep in mind its limitation and it is not very accurate nor reliable data. |
umashikanekoOct 31, 2014 9:02 PM
Nov 1, 2014 7:04 AM
#89
umashikaneko said: You mean oricon estimation? Oricon estimation is by no means actual sales but speculation they collect data only from 2000 shops when there are more than 50,000 shops that sell manga in Japan and multiple x times that number. Some manga are very over(under)rated because they sell more manga at shops that are mainly (not) counted by oricon. And also faster seller are much overrated than slower seller on oricon chart,so I don't think it is good indicator of popularity.Some manga sell 40 percent of its sales in first month while some manga sell 90 percent of its sales in first month. Vagabond has published 60 million for 35 volume 1 million for Vol35 first edition which is currentely more popular manga I think. I think oricon estimation ranking is very interesting data because it is easy to compare each manga as long as people keep in mind its limitation and it is not very accurate nor reliable data. Very interesting and informative post. Is the same true for anime disc sales? Oricon apparently doesn't report foreign disc sales, but are there any Japanese sales they don't include? Or are discs primarily sold on the internet so it doesn't matter? |
Nov 1, 2014 9:36 AM
#90
Hahalollawl said: umashikaneko said: You mean oricon estimation? Oricon estimation is by no means actual sales but speculation they collect data only from 2000 shops when there are more than 50,000 shops that sell manga in Japan and multiple x times that number. Some manga are very over(under)rated because they sell more manga at shops that are mainly (not) counted by oricon. And also faster seller are much overrated than slower seller on oricon chart,so I don't think it is good indicator of popularity.Some manga sell 40 percent of its sales in first month while some manga sell 90 percent of its sales in first month. Vagabond has published 60 million for 35 volume 1 million for Vol35 first edition which is currentely more popular manga I think. I think oricon estimation ranking is very interesting data because it is easy to compare each manga as long as people keep in mind its limitation and it is not very accurate nor reliable data. Very interesting and informative post. Is the same true for anime disc sales? Oricon apparently doesn't report foreign disc sales, but are there any Japanese sales they don't include? Or are discs primarily sold on the internet so it doesn't matter? No I don't think so.CD and DVD data seems thoroughly gathered judging from the name of shops and number of shops(40,000). Maybe because they are long term relation with those CD/dvd shops while book ranking is newer thing and only a few people pay attention to the list,so they put little effort. Ps. the biggest reason I find oricon Manga ranking less reliable is not because of the number but because they collect data from certain kinds of shops(they collect enough number of sales data if they collected randomly in my opinion For example they collect data from major on-line shops such as Amazon while ignoring convenient stores Manga selling on on-line shops might be much different than Manga selling in convenient stores. |
umashikanekoNov 1, 2014 11:42 AM
Nov 1, 2014 10:02 AM
#91
umashikaneko said: You mean oricon estimation? Oricon estimation is by no means actual sales but speculation they collect data only from 2000 shops when there are more than 50,000 shops that sell manga in Japan and multiple x times that number. Some manga are very over(under)rated because they sell more manga at shops that are mainly (not) counted by oricon. And also faster seller are much overrated than slower seller on oricon chart,so I don't think it is good indicator of popularity.Some manga sell 40 percent of its sales in first month while some manga sell 90 percent of its sales in first month. Vagabond has published 60 million for 35 volume 1 million for Vol35 first edition which is currentely more popular manga I think. I think oricon estimation ranking is very interesting data because it is easy to compare each manga as long as people keep in mind its limitation and it is not very accurate nor reliable data. This times 100. Oricon data is adequate for comparing volumes of the same series (provided they get roughly equal numbers of weeks on the chart), but is a pretty demonstrably uncertain way of comparing series. I computed the average percentage of first-printing totals Oricon estimation represents as 61%, with a spread of ±23%. That indicates that there can be a factor-of-two difference in print runs for two titles with identical oricon totals and average underestimation of total sales. And that's not the full extent of the spread. There are plenty of series printing 100,000+ volume runs that rarely if ever make the charts. Many of those are super long-runners targeted towards adults like Golgo 13 and Oishinbo, but Shimauma is a Young King title that's only 5 years old and it had a million copies in print through 8 volumes despite charting just once at under 15k. |
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Nov 1, 2014 10:49 AM
#92
Nov 1, 2014 12:57 PM
#93
j0x said: wow Giant Killing is selling well but where is season 2 of the anime? lol IK, R. Not to mention a next season of Kingdom.... |
Nov 1, 2014 1:05 PM
#94
ichii_1 said: With the succes of nozaki-kun the chances of her other work getting animated just sky rocketed :) *9. *70,465 *70,869 Oresama Teacher Vol.19 Probably. |
Nov 1, 2014 1:09 PM
#95
i like seeing linebarrel chart, wish it would actually get translated though, fingers crossed for an anime adaption that isnt dogshit when it nears its end also the link for it sends you to this instead of the actual page for it http://myanimelist.net/manga/3653/ |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Nov 1, 2014 1:23 PM
#96
Torisunanohokori said: umashikaneko said: You mean oricon estimation? Oricon estimation is by no means actual sales but speculation they collect data only from 2000 shops when there are more than 50,000 shops that sell manga in Japan and multiple x times that number. Some manga are very over(under)rated because they sell more manga at shops that are mainly (not) counted by oricon. And also faster seller are much overrated than slower seller on oricon chart,so I don't think it is good indicator of popularity.Some manga sell 40 percent of its sales in first month while some manga sell 90 percent of its sales in first month. Vagabond has published 60 million for 35 volume 1 million for Vol35 first edition which is currentely more popular manga I think. I think oricon estimation ranking is very interesting data because it is easy to compare each manga as long as people keep in mind its limitation and it is not very accurate nor reliable data. This times 100. Oricon data is adequate for comparing volumes of the same series (provided they get roughly equal numbers of weeks on the chart), but is a pretty demonstrably uncertain way of comparing series. I computed the average percentage of first-printing totals Oricon estimation represents as 61%, with a spread of ±23%. That indicates that there can be a factor-of-two difference in print runs for two titles with identical oricon totals and average underestimation of total sales. And that's not the full extent of the spread. There are plenty of series printing 100,000+ volume runs that rarely if ever make the charts. Many of those are super long-runners targeted towards adults like Golgo 13 and Oishinbo, but Shimauma is a Young King title that's only 5 years old and it had a million copies in print through 8 volumes despite charting just once at under 15k. Not strange, it just first week sold from unknown magazine with irregular release(like WSJ which around every 3 months) meaning people may don't know about release date and buy it later, made series sale slowly compare to popular manga. and from what I look it was an old data. it has high possibility series was grow later. Golgo 13 is too long, it can't gain new reader anyway nor keep old reader. series like this always decrease dramaticly for said reason. Oricon is not 100% accurate, but it relaible enough to base on. that what I want to say. |
Nov 1, 2014 1:44 PM
#97
Monomunu said: Not strange, it just first week sold from unknown magazine with irregular release(like WSJ which around every 3 months) meaning people may don't know about release date and buy it later, made series sale slowly compare to popular manga. and from what I look it was an old data. it has high possibility series was grow later. Golgo 13 is too long, it can't gain new reader anyway nor keep old reader. series like this always decrease dramaticly for said reason. Oricon is not 100% accurate, but it relaible enough to base on. that what I want to say. The data it's based on is end-of-2013 data, which is less than a year old. Shimauma has had 2 volumes come out since 8: 9 on February 24 and 10 on May 26. It charted in neither of those weeks, so what I described is very much an ongoing thing. Feb 24: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1093803 May 26: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1193869 Not trying to say that Oricon data is wholly unreliable; generally, it is true that series with bigger oricon numbers have bigger numbers in general. My point is that there's a large enough spread in the accuracy of its estimates from series to series that people should exercise extreme caution when using it to compare different manga. |
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