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Oct 25, 2014 11:50 AM

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Tsundereppoi said:

> works out
> still gets dominated by a girl

These two need to have sex

O wait...


Well its a general rule of the whole universe that you to be a magus you need to be built as fuck, because doing magic is extremely tiring and hard procedure(you sort of see it when Shirou tries tracing first in EP1 where a failed attempt makes him sweat and catch breath and how Rin after summoning Archer wakes up with splitting headache).

We have seen that already in the Ep0 where Rin was quite easily pushing away the table in her summoning chamber.

So yes, it is a fair assumption that Rin is a wee bit more stronger than your average female(or male)

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looks awsome, but wasn't shirou supposed to get chopped up in half?


Not in this route.

Having Archer be there to help with things really is worth a lot.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:51 AM

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Ah, this episode was the greatest.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:51 AM

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CookingPriest said:

Well its a general rule of the whole universe that you to be a magus you need to be built as fuck, because doing magic is extremely tiring and hard procedure(you sort of see it when Shirou tries tracing first in EP1 where a failed attempt makes him sweat and catch breath and how Rin after summoning Archer wakes up with splitting headache).

We have seen that already in the Ep0 where Rin was quite easily pushing away the table in her summoning chamber.

So yes, it is a fair assumption that Rin is a wee bit more stronger than your average female(or male)


Question: does Rin have six packs?
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:52 AM

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Marcusboy said:
looks awsome, but wasn't shirou supposed to get chopped up in half?


Only happens in the other 2 routes, where Archer was critically wounded by Saber at Shirou's house


....and in bad endings.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:53 AM

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CookingPriest said:

Well its a general rule of the whole universe that you to be a magus you need to be built as fuck, because doing magic is extremely tiring and hard procedure(you sort of see it when Shirou tries tracing first in EP1 where a failed attempt makes him sweat and catch breath and how Rin after summoning Archer wakes up with splitting headache).

We have seen that already in the Ep0 where Rin was quite easily pushing away the table in her summoning chamber.

So yes, it is a fair assumption that Rin is a wee bit more stronger than your average female(or male)


Question: does Rin have six packs?


Not that much stronger I bet xDDDD

That would be stretching it quite a bit. But she is quite built for a female...in all the right assets as we already seen.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:54 AM

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Holy Shit.

My jaw was dropped the entire time! BERSERKER!!!!!! :w00t: In the VN I just could not tell how fast they were moving, this is truly a fight between demigods! In the VN you could tell they were going fast, but Berserker never appeared to me to be that fast. I mean he was as fast as Saber! Fucking badass!

And then Saber!? My lady!!!!! Best sword fighter around, she fucked up Berserker with her mini-Excalibur attack, but too bad his Noble Phantasm is basically "9 lives" otherwise, that would have been an instant kill.

Then Archer's arrows. That was so badass! Archer definitely showed why he's called Archer! And I was just waiting for his last one to be shot, I loved that part in the VN. Archer is a force to be reckoned with.

Probably my favorite part was the inclusion of Ilya vs Rin. I do not believe that was in the VN, I do not remember that at all. The battle between two high class mages!? Yes please! I never fully understood Ilya's offensive attacks, so it was nice to see them animated. Makes much more sense now. She has a high dependency on familiars it seems. Also Rin's anti-gravity attack on Berserker was fucking sick! Then followed by Archer's arrows!? Dear lord.

Then Shirou coming in clutch at the end was good! They did a good job of showing his resolve to fight. "Doing anything is better than doing nothing."

Finally the animation. It is godly! There was never a dull moment. ufotable animated this segment up and beyond then what it was originally suppose to be. Even if they did half of what they did, it would have been awesome, but they really show just how intense and destructive these fights truly are.

Also the Kotomine scene took me by surprise because it wasn't in the VN, but I liked it. We need more insight on Kotomine since the Fate route hasn't been animated. I don't mind the extra tidbits with him, I hope we see more. I love Kotomine!
 
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The fights in this are fucking awesome!!! This episode rocked.
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Oct 25, 2014 11:55 AM

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Holy shit, when Berserk let go of the sword and starting kicking Saber......awesome moment. Like the new addition of the Rin/Illya fight as well, I never got why they didn't go after Illya during this battle in the VN so it was cool. Also, the glimpse of Saber's sword was pretty neat as well. I'm not sure if Shirou or Rin saw it, but maybe that's how they'll find out her identity here?
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F*cking Horriblesubs. -.-

Your hate is directed at the wrong source, as HS doesn't actually sub anything.
 
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meanwhile at studio DEEN:

"Ahhh... so THIS is how servants are supposed to fight? ehehehhe... SHIT, what have we done?"





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Your hate is directed at the wrong source, as HS doesn't actually sub anything.


But... they are a fansub group!
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:56 AM
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Marcusboy said:
looks awsome, but wasn't shirou supposed to get chopped up in half?


Only happens in the other 2 routes.


....and bad endings.

crie

so this is going to have a different story between shirou and saber i guess, meh, loved the things between them.
 
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antonn said:

Your hate is directed at the wrong source, as HS doesn't actually sub anything.


Yeah its aniplex mistakes.

Not that CR is better considering they can't differentiate between Church and MA either.

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so this is going to have a different story between shirou and saber i guess, meh, loved the things between them.

Its more of story of Shirou, Rin and Archer. They are THE main important characters in this storyline as the show so far has quite clearly showcased.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:59 AM
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antonn said:
InsertPriestHere said:

F*cking Horriblesubs. -.-

Your hate is directed at the wrong source, as HS doesn't actually sub anything.

Uuuuh. Well then.
That's arguably worse, though. How half-assed.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:00 PM

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>Glorious fluff
>Computer fucked up

Welp, time to re watch the episode :D
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Oct 25, 2014 12:02 PM

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DAT was freaking epic. I WANT MORE.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:02 PM

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A fight to the death with an archer who can snipe from miles away?
Yeah, let's only go for the servant and not the master.

The fights are well animated but mind-numbingly dumb. There's not an ounce of real combat practice anywhere in this series. It's worse than Hollywood for retarded combat tropes.
 
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mirakura said:
LoomyTheBrew said:




>Glorious fluff
>Computer fucked up

Welp, time to re watch the episode :D



I repeat what I said after I saw OP for first time. Why do I feel that I am watching fate adaptation instead of UBW? XD
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Oct 25, 2014 12:03 PM
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Marcusboy said:

so this is going to have a different story between shirou and saber i guess, meh, loved the things between them.

Its more of story of Shirou, Rin and Archer. They are THE main important characters in this storyline as the show so far has quite clearly showcased. [/quote]
awhhh, my hopes we're on it being like the first Fate/stay night version but maybe with a different ending :(
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:03 PM

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That was a great battle. Animation's awesome as always.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:03 PM

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BloodRequiem said:
WTF huge plothole.

What happened to Berserker's armour and why didn't he just grab Excalibur and make it his own?

Doesn't make sense at all.


This is not the same Berserker from f/0.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:04 PM

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Sparteh said:
mirakura said:


>Glorious fluff
>Computer fucked up

Welp, time to re watch the episode :D



I repeat what I said after I saw OP for first time. Why do I feel that I am watching fate adaptation instead of UBW? XD


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this happen in UBW?
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Oct 25, 2014 12:05 PM

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Yes, this happens in UBW.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:06 PM
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so this is going to have a different story between shirou and saber i guess, meh, loved the things between them.

Its more of story of Shirou, Rin and Archer. They are THE main important characters in this storyline as the show so far has quite clearly showcased.

awhhh, my hopes we're on it being like the first Fate/stay night version but maybe with a different ending :([/quote]
No, it's a completely different route.
 
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Gotta hand it to Ufotable, they doing work with the visuals. I'm pretty fond of all the little particle effects they did with the magic.

I was hoping for a second when Kirei was talking that Berserker would come flying through the church window and crash out the other side :D
 
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Marcusboy said:

awhhh, my hopes we're on it being like the first Fate/stay night version but maybe with a different ending :(


THe way FSN is structured, only prologue is the same for all routes. (The EP0 and Ep1), then all three routes are entirely different stories.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:07 PM

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Grey-Zone said:
meanwhile at studio DEEN:

"Ahhh... so THIS is how servants are supposed to fight? ehehehhe... SHIT, what have we done?"


This pretty much nailed it.


 
Oct 25, 2014 12:09 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
Sparteh said:



I repeat what I said after I saw OP for first time. Why do I feel that I am watching fate adaptation instead of UBW? XD


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this happen in UBW?


I know that. I know stories of all routes, but still that feeling does not disappear. :D
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Oct 25, 2014 12:11 PM
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DAMN that battle was intense and epic!!! 100/5

Have to wait another week (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
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Ilya does swordz in SN as well, so Ilya is best onee-chanimouto
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Oct 25, 2014 12:14 PM

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RinPriest said:

No, Saber X Shirou would be the fate route, if you wish for anything more to be said would be a spoiler from me.


I think he is doing it wrong watching fate series for some kind of horrid romance.. Not that I mind it..
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:15 PM

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Chabe said:
A fight to the death with an archer who can snipe from miles away?
Yeah, let's only go for the servant and not the master.

The fights are well animated but mind-numbingly dumb. There's not an ounce of real combat practice anywhere in this series. It's worse than Hollywood for retarded combat tropes.
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Archer said that he can only sense Rin's location...or there may be another reason.


What actual combat practice do you except in a fight with a Berserker?
 
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Chabe said:
A fight to the death with an archer who can snipe from miles away?
Yeah, let's only go for the servant and not the master.

The fights are well animated but mind-numbingly dumb. There's not an ounce of real combat practice anywhere in this series. It's worse than Hollywood for retarded combat tropes.
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Archer said that he can only sense Rin's location...or there may be another reason.


What actual combat practice do you except in a fight with a Berserker?


This.

Archer can home-in on servants, but Masters are blind, unless he actually SEES where they are - if he is not in sight of Illya, he can do nothing, while he can feel locations of servants. As already said in EP0 servants can feel servants even if invisible, unlike servants to masters or masters to servants.
 
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1000000/5 !! holy shit the fight was intense , godlike ost and animation
and dat ARCHER!!!!
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Oct 25, 2014 12:19 PM

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hnnnng this was so goooood, god damn
the whole fight
and especially archer's NF in the end. archer is love <3
 
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FakePriest said:
Chabe said:
A fight to the death with an archer who can snipe from miles away?
Yeah, let's only go for the servant and not the master.

The fights are well animated but mind-numbingly dumb. There's not an ounce of real combat practice anywhere in this series. It's worse than Hollywood for retarded combat tropes.
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Archer said that he can only sense Rin's location...or there may be another reason.


What actual combat practice do you except in a fight with a Berserker?

Ya, you cant really use traditional fighting techniques against someone who is faster than you, can kill you with a touch, and does random things.

It's like he completely forgot about episode 0 fight also.
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FakePriest said:
Chabe said:
A fight to the death with an archer who can snipe from miles away?
Yeah, let's only go for the servant and not the master.

The fights are well animated but mind-numbingly dumb. There's not an ounce of real combat practice anywhere in this series. It's worse than Hollywood for retarded combat tropes.


Archer said that he can only sense Rin's location...or there may be another reason.


Then don't go miles away ¬.¬ Anyway, I thought he had awesome eyesight?

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What actual combat practice do you except in a fight with a Berserker?


The idea that "berserkers" fought like mindless brutes is itself an asinine belief.
Even if that were the case, Saber didn't fight with any semblance of skill either.
 
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I always thought Saber taking the fight to the graveyard where she has a natural advantage was a pretty smart idea at least. Rin trying to take out Ilya as well, though this wasn't in the VN.
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Oct 25, 2014 12:22 PM

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He means Archer not sniping Ilya.


The guy has a point. Why didn't Archer just go on his plane

[spoiler] like he did in Fate Zero and carpet bomb the place? I mean that was how he fought Berserker 10 years ago right? It makes no sense.
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Oct 25, 2014 12:22 PM
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FakePriest said:
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He means Archer not sniping Ilya.

I noticed, hence why it was deleted. :p

And everyone else already explained that one.
 
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Chabe said:


The idea that "berserkers" fought like mindless brutes is itself an asinine belief.
Even if that were the case, Saber didn't fight with any semblance of skill either.

"Just because he is a berserker class and literally has no thought about his actions doesn't mean he needs to fight that way. He is a strong independent servant who doesn't need you to tell him what he can and can't do"

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Chabe said:

Then don't go miles away ¬.¬ Anyway, I thought he had awesome eyesight?

The idea that "berserkers" fought like mindless brutes is itself an asinine belief.
Even if that were the case, Saber didn't fight with any semblance of skill either.


Ranged fight is his advantage. And he can still hit servants. When he went there, they had no idea that Illya can actually fight back that well by herself. And if there are obstacles he can't see her or masters, while he can still feel locations of servants.

Berserkers might not fight like mindless brutes, but Berserker class does. That's the point of it.

Saber used location to her advantage, hid behind tombstones as a way to dodge his attacks. How is that not skillful fighting? Its pretty much all you can do against someone who is entirely random at attacking.
 
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RinPriest said:
Chabe said:

Then don't go miles away ¬.¬ Anyway, I thought he had awesome eyesight?


This really isnt a spoiler but Archers clairyvoyance is only at rank C

so he cannot see through objects (and certainly not through time), and considering Illya is moving around in a giant forest...


That doesn't explain why he didn't fire at the foreigner with the retarded name near the start of the fight.
That just explains why their decision to send him miles away was retarded.
 
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The extra stuff were majestic. I wonder what the secondaries will say now :3
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Oct 25, 2014 12:25 PM

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Berserker : Tatsumaki qcb+K
Oh god who are you people?
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:26 PM

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Chabe said:
RinPriest said:


This really isnt a spoiler but Archers clairyvoyance is only at rank C

so he cannot see through objects (and certainly not through time), and considering Illya is moving around in a giant forest...


That doesn't explain why he didn't fire at the foreigner with the retarded name near the start of the fight.
That just explains why their decision to send him miles away was retarded.


Yeah, an Archer just has to stay close so enemy can close in when he is reloading. Brilliant.
 
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Chabe said:
FakePriest said:


Archer said that he can only sense Rin's location...or there may be another reason.


Then don't go miles away ¬.¬ Anyway, I thought he had awesome eyesight?

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What actual combat practice do you except in a fight with a Berserker?


The idea that "berserkers" fought like mindless brutes is itself an asinine belief.
Even if that were the case, Saber didn't fight with any semblance of skill either.

The bridge wasnt miles away and didnt have a forent in between.And the objective was to be support for Saber.

Berserker class has nothing to do with actual berserkers.In Fzte/ it means it is someone with literally no sane thoughts and no specialized movements.

She used the terrain,her weight, TWO NPs, her small body for an advantage in close combat etc.
What exactly does "true combat skills" mean to you?
 
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Hnnnng


Also, this is kinda funny:



 
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Chabe said:

That doesn't explain why he didn't fire at the foreigner with the retarded name near the start of the fight.
That just explains why their decision to send him miles away was retarded.

Everyone, its clear that this guy is trolling, or decided he doesn't like the anime already. So there's no amount of reasonable explanation that will answer his questions, even if they do ACTUALLY answer his questions.
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chickenonthepan said:
Chabe said:


That doesn't explain why he didn't fire at the foreigner with the retarded name near the start of the fight.
That just explains why their decision to send him miles away was retarded.


Yeah, an Archer just has to stay close so enemy can close in when he is reloading. Brilliant.


A real archer can fire around 12 shots per minute with a longbow, a superpowered servant should be able to fire even more. Anyway, who said anything about him being close enough to be hit by the berserker?
It's not like Saber is just going to let him be attack, they really didn't use their two servant advantage at all.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:30 PM
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Hnnnng


Also, this is kinda funny:

What are they saying?
 
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