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Oct 24, 2014 9:47 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good episode.

Even kids having tough in this episode with nowhere safe. I like how they portray on most parts Leon's character and his goals. Then again, almost no one can be trusted in this series especially with powerful artifacts . On another note, I like the battle was done between Leon and that Horror.

All the feels again. I feel bad for that kid now but it can't be helped.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 11:17 AM

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Felt so good seeing the villagers get wrecked XD I hate Ass hole villages like them.

Too bad Zoro couldn't get laid with that hot MILF this ep XD

Nice to see Leon developing bit by bit.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 11:25 AM

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Damn, what an episode, might be my favorite episode of the season so far.

Art/Animation: Same as usual, somewhat odd artstyle but works and I love the look of the horror as usual as well(SO METAL).

Music: A lot of atmospheric music this time around and it worked great, gave a real thrilling vibe throughout. Voice acting was very well done as well.

Story/Characters:
Not so much for development but it did flesh out Leon a bit, much needed because I felt he was the weakest character of the show so far. Alois was clearly a mirror of Leon, a thirst for revenge. Not too much to it but the entire episode had an overarching theme of superstition and what it can lead to and the fact that there is no real way to end it at all.

This also ties back to why Leon's mother was killed in the first place, she was a witch, witches are viewed as cursed or cause curses and so they kill them in horrible ways because it's supposed to mean something when really the "ritual" or "ceremony" are really just a weird way of blaming someone for the bad things that happened in your life. This is why Alois was crying when the horror was killed, he wanted revenge just like the rest of the villagers and now he couldn't get it. The final scene which showcased the villagers still relying on that superstition to make themselves feel better was the cherry on top, it just never ends.

Very well done, remarkably so even. This series deserves far more respect than it is getting.

Only real thing that worries me is I hope the series doesn't go the route of monster of the week. It's fine if they include an overarching theme in each episode but it kinda screws with the pacing. Won't call it a real criticism though unless it confirms itself to be monster of the week.
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Oct 24, 2014 11:40 AM

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That was a weird village.
Not enough development tho.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 12:06 PM
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Loved it, the overall atmosphere of this episode was amazing and I particularly enjoyed the ending when they realized that even after everything they did, the villagers were STILL continuing with their ceremony like nothing had happened. It shows how deeply their superstition and delusion ran in a subtle way.

The part where the horror was leading the children to the swamp was also pretty well done and small details like the statue being bloody after killing those kids were small but very nice details.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 12:57 PM

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The villagers are so heartless. It was good to see they got wrecked.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 1:35 PM

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Not the best of eps the villagers are the same type we have seen a million times before the fight with the horror was also rather cliche as was the kid being so like the MC and the way he got over is so fast felt very contrived and I already knew what was going to take place before it did so yeah average eps
 
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Oct 24, 2014 1:47 PM

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Everywhere they go bad things are happening. Oh well I guess that's the life of Makai Knights.
 
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Oct 24, 2014 2:40 PM

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Now that's one creepy village to have to live in...

Freaking hell... that's one "young lady" our womanizer share a bed with too soon XD.

A WILD MILF HAS APPEARED!

Doll found in the wood... holy crap it's probably cursed or something...

I think the doll took on the form of Alois and did in those kids.

Ceremony... I think it's something rather sickening...

The villagers got what they deserved.

At least Leon realized that revenge is not the right path to take.
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Oct 24, 2014 3:00 PM

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I was really relieved that Alois wasn't the Horror! -_-;

The villagers were disgusting, they deserve each other.
 
Oct 24, 2014 5:23 PM

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Another good one, Leon got a lot of focus which was nice and very needed.
 
Oct 24, 2014 5:35 PM

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Starting to dislike this. Like where's the main plot?
 
Oct 24, 2014 5:46 PM

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great episode, this was deifnetly the darkest one yet and i thought it was interesting as hell, i love these type of lotttery like dark secrets in communities plus the action was strong as usual

next episode is the one im excited for, the prince's situation is really interesting to me and i cant wait to see when he eventually teams up with herman and leon

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Oct 24, 2014 6:10 PM
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thats a great episode, those villagers that were killed deserve their death and the old man will be executed too by his fellow villagers, next episode the prince is training to become the next makai knight?
 
Oct 24, 2014 6:20 PM

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Poor Herman didn't get any this time either ;_:. It was really satisfying when villagers got what they deserved, although I'd prefer it was more bloody (even though I'm not a fan of gore). They perished way too quick. At least the leader of the group got a proper punishment at the end. Combat was splendid as usual, but I'd love to see something less one sided. I understand that the idea here is that Leon is the legendary OP golden knight, but they could add some Herman action to the mix, or just make it more challenging. Either way, great episode and I hope this series keeps up the quality, 5/5. This is currently my favorite series of the season, I hope they'll get to the main storyline soon.
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Oct 24, 2014 9:54 PM

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What is evil? Right and wrong?

"Leave it. It is not our job to pass judgement on humans."

Though I think I might be pulling stuff out of the blue, for once I actually see some symbolism and philosophical aspects to a series. XD
I am enjoying this series, and I like how it doesn't have yet a singular plot. Everything is, rather, falling into place slowly. We probably get some more character development for the next few episodes before the main plot picks up.
 
Oct 24, 2014 10:01 PM

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This series just keeps rising through my ratings. I'm glad that I didn't drop this after the first episode
 
Oct 24, 2014 10:12 PM
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Really messed up village. I liked how they continued that cycle at the end. The atmosphere of the villagers are really similar to the salem witch trials. Shows how far paranoia and suspicion can go.
I'm enjoying this more than I thought. Hope the main plot picks up soon, the build up is nice so far.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:10 AM
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Very good episode, that village was extremely cruel. How can you hate a MILF that much?

Glad Leon was the hero of this episode. He needed more screen time. Alfonso episode next? Finally! I've been wondering how he'll play a role in this series.
 
Oct 25, 2014 12:24 AM

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Finally a good take on how revenge corrupts. Instead of seeing the MC turn into an annoying character for 2+ episodes and how they get affected by wanting revenge, we get 1 episode that was actually interesting and good, also portraying the message clearer than most.
 
Oct 25, 2014 1:43 AM

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I seriously believe that this show gets better with every episode, and the fight scenes are wonderfully fluid!
Little bit of character development and world building.
Next we get to see the price again, wonder who the Knight of Light is.
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Oct 25, 2014 2:21 AM

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Interesting episode. It really felt good to see how those idiots got wrecked. Next episode it seems like from the preview we will know about "Gaia/ Knight of Light".
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Oct 25, 2014 4:48 AM

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That moment when you think you are approaching a cute girl from behind only to discover the true face of horror.

Btw we all know why the villagers killed her husband. Look at the women they had. They wanted a piece of that ass and when the stranger in town seem to be the one getting it instead of them they just lost all sanity. That is true hidden plot.
 
Oct 25, 2014 6:11 AM

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great episode. poor kid, at first i thought he was holding an overcooked fish iso doll lol. and leon... the more i look at him, the hotter he gets <3. this just keep getting better and better each episode and i cant wait to watch the next one, interesting preview there.
 
Oct 25, 2014 6:47 AM

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so finally 3 makai knight show up
usually garo team production always make 3 makai knight each season

but i hope there are another makai knight appear in future episode

BTW enjoy this >>> http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/234/4/7/garo_splash_2_by_robinosuke-d6j7l37.jpg
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Oct 25, 2014 7:53 AM

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the villagers do some creepy stuff overall a good episode
 
Oct 25, 2014 10:06 AM
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Classic episode, but really enjoyable.
 
Oct 25, 2014 11:02 AM

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Herman the Woman Layer.
That kid better keep an eye on his mom, cuz Herman is most definitely coming back
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Oct 25, 2014 2:21 PM

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Liked how the bit at the start of the episode tied in with the bit towards the end, he talks about how Leon is going to get revenge at any cost, only to change his mind when seeing the boy try to do the same.
 
Oct 25, 2014 8:57 PM

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I liked the episode, showed how the Makai Knights act, and the difficulties that population is suffering, I am quite curious about this story ..
 
Oct 25, 2014 9:19 PM

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"Young lady..." *woman shows her face* LOL!

I actually wished they let the horror go on a rampage through town before they killed it.
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Oct 26, 2014 5:08 AM

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no close up of garo....lol. still enjoying but this feels like filer episode. ..
 
Oct 26, 2014 1:41 PM
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This episode was amazing. MAPPA is really stepping it up.
 
Oct 26, 2014 5:37 PM

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Glad Leon was the hero of this episode. He needed more screen time. Alfonso episode next? Finally! I've been wondering how he'll play a role in this series.
definetly agree to this, im going to assume alfonso is going to team up with leon and herman to retake the kingdom from mendoza and the horrors, building up a rebellion comprised of makai knights and alchemists to take on the corrupt horror empire, oh man this shit is gonna be epic if it goes this route

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Oct 27, 2014 10:13 AM

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That was actually cool. The village is fucked up that's for sure. Leon is in control for most parts. Herman the funny guy, yet serious, was able to do his part as well. Leon seems to understand Alois because they want revenge. Also, his mother is a MILF. Hahahahaha!
 
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Hidayat246 said:
so finally 3 makai knight show up
usually garo team production always make 3 makai knight each season

but i hope there are another makai knight appear in future episode

BTW enjoy this >>> http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/234/4/7/garo_splash_2_by_robinosuke-d6j7l37.jpg


very cool image!
 
Oct 28, 2014 3:12 AM

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Ok episode. i wanna see what happens to the prince next episode.
 
Oct 28, 2014 8:38 AM

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4/5

Episode of transition but that does not leave disappointed, given the hardness of the narrative.
Nothing watered down to the end, that's the beauty of the story flowing smoothly.
The design is nice, because the animations. Perhaps the CG monster is a little ugly, a little.
Excellent growth of Leon.
 
Oct 29, 2014 7:15 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
r0ykun said:

Glad Leon was the hero of this episode. He needed more screen time. Alfonso episode next? Finally! I've been wondering how he'll play a role in this series.
definetly agree to this, im going to assume alfonso is going to team up with leon and herman to retake the kingdom from mendoza and the horrors, building up a rebellion comprised of makai knights and alchemists to take on the corrupt horror empire, oh man this shit is gonna be epic if it goes this route


This.

Lol Herman : "At least die because of a woman, then you can go down like a man". I love this guy, he's hilarious. I also like the newest Makai knight they just introduced even though I know NOTHING about him. He just seems really cool, and it looks like he's going to train Alfonso

 
Oct 30, 2014 12:14 AM

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Wow. This episode took Garo to a whole new level. Sadly, I was bored with episode three, but this one brought me right back. More episodes like this one, please.
 
Nov 1, 2014 4:45 PM
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What a creepy village! I felt so bad for Alois and Aurelia but I'm also glad that they got a chance to leave and have a better life.

It was good to have Leon as the focus of this episode and he seems to have better control this time. Next episode looks like it will be centred on Alfonso.
 
Nov 8, 2014 3:05 AM

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That was an excellent episode, from start to finish: I loved how Alois' thirst for revenge perfectly mirrored Leon's, and the scene where the latter tries to dissuade the former to take the same destructive path only to realise his own hypocrisy was a very powerful one.

I also really enjoyed the fact that this week's Horror was not pure evil, but instead a morally ambiguous one, and that he/she/it/xe was on Alois' side till the end. Even when the doll took its true Horror form and fled from the fight against Leon, it still attacked the villagers, as if to carry out Alois' vengeance.

Leon's face after he killed the Horror was heart-breaking, and the ending incredibly cruel.

Definitely the best episode yet!
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Nov 15, 2014 7:43 AM

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random ass event

somehow Leon just opens the bedroom door and figures out that the doll is the horror O.o
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Nov 29, 2014 9:26 PM

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a hot milf and he didn't get laid lol
 
Dec 24, 2014 11:34 PM

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the Horror actually did Alois a favor by slaying almost all of the villagers except for that scumbeg chief. the Horror was so good-natured that it prevented Alois from harboring any kind of ill wills against the villagers for what they did to their dad.
 
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LMAO German look like he fell in love.
The doll was the Horror.
Kill the chief.

German didn't get to smash this episode.
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I loved this episode. It was a bit scary and I liked that. 5/5
 
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Creepy village, they should have burnt it down from the start
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