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Nov 6, 2009 10:51 AM
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Well, I guess there was quite a bit of build up for nothing with the Trial Sword. It was cool looking but Kuwabara never really got to use it.

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Apr 29, 2010 9:41 PM
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Next ep looks even better
"The weak get washed away by the tides of fate...The strong drink it up."-Godot
Jun 29, 2011 9:43 PM
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What the heck...elder Toguro tells her to stop counting and she listens to him and stops? o_x Wtf?

I can't wait to see how Kuwabara gets out of this, the Toguro creep needs to be taught a lesson, it seriously ticked me off when he said Genkai was jealous, and the dolphin-chick just stops counting for him because he tells her to. xD

Though, I think the sword and yoki surrounding Kuwabara was sparkly and pretty~ :D
Dec 12, 2011 1:24 PM
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It somehow saddens me when I see guys who have this kind of power NEVER using it to its full extend... Heck even Luffy rubber powers are a downgraded version of Elder Toguro's abilities.

In any case, it's a good episode, Kuwabara fights are always interesting, and this looks like it's gonna get bloody!
Jun 19, 2013 9:21 AM
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I'd much rather have the cat referee for the match, she has passion for what she does, the dolphin chick is only there for the money.

Well good episode, but come on Kurabara don't just rush and attack, think of a strategy. His other attack looked like small energy blades thrown at elder Toguro.

Jul 10, 2013 6:50 PM
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Now, I am really wondering how can Kuwabara defeat that creep. Could it be the power of love again? Or the power of anger? Hehe. Just please let Kuwabara win. Gosh, it's the FINALS already!
Apr 20, 2015 2:45 AM
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This show is really testing my patience now. I did not expect the finals, as well as this entire arc as a whole, to feel this pointless.
Dec 27, 2015 11:23 PM
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Kuwabara is my fave character, so this was a fight I was really anticipating. It's been okay so far but overall I've been a little underwhelmed. The super sword was fine (and necessary) but the sudden power boost from his resolve was boring.

I was hoping we'd see Kuwabara handle feelings of inadequacy compared to his teammates, but the story hasn't really gone that direction, opting for more of a vengeance route. I thought it'd be interesting because the Toguro Bros.™ are supposed to be a big fucking deal. The cream of the crop.

And here we have Kuwabara, the weakest member of the team with the highest loss count. He is now up against this seemingly insurmountable threat. The situation looked hopeless and like something that would require great strategy akin to Kurama's fights, but Kuwabara has actually managed to hold his own just by brute force and power boosts, which is making the elder Toguro look pretty underwhelming.
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Mar 27, 2017 6:00 PM
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Kuwabara, dam definitely my favorite main character of the series since he reminds me of Hanamichi from Slam Dunk and hes just so dam nice too. Hope he wins and gets even stronger!
Apr 10, 2017 10:31 PM

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Kuwabara learning the truth about Genkai was painful ;_;
Jun 23, 2017 7:02 AM
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There, Akiyuki Shinbo was involved in this.
busu gasu bakahatsu basu gas bakahatsu was later reused in Hidamari Sketch Honeycomb (ep 1??)
Jun 23, 2017 7:14 AM
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This just shows that Kuwabara is a fool. It was clearly a trick when Toguro allowed himself to be cut like that. And Kuwabara laughed it off. And just dozens of eps ago, Toguro Elder revealed his shapeshifting power. Did he not ever do any research and analysis??
WHAT A FOOL!
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Jun 23, 2017 7:28 AM
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Sean_Nessman said:
This just shows that Kuwabara is a fool. It was clearly a trick when Toguro allowed himself to be cut like that. And Kuwabara laughed it off. And just dozens of eps ago, Toguro Elder revealed his shapeshifting power. Did he not ever do any research and analysis??
WHAT A FOOL!


Although that would make the opponent interesting.
It's refreshing to see an opponent using dirty tricks, and even psychological warfare. Though I know that would be his undoing in the end cuz Kuwabara kinda thrives under anger.
Jul 25, 2017 3:20 PM

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I can't agree with Kuwabara leveling up on the fly because of love or anger, especially when that anger turns his body into steel and gives him a random new move for no reason. Yeah, early on when Kuwabara got his sword for the first time Genkai said that people's spirit energy thrives when they're near death and that's also why he initially got his sword but man is this lazy. I did enjoy seeing how freaked out he was before the fight, seriously he knows hes the weakest on the team, I'd be freaking too.

However I can say that Toguro Elder is deliciously evil. His parasyte-esque disturbing abilities and the way that he trash talks and fights dirty, everything about him is a delight to watch.

Young Toguro carrying the entire ring was hella gar. My husbando.
Nov 12, 2017 9:35 AM

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Kuwabara's fights always bore me, he is all talk and no action. I knew he would be stronger when he heard about Genkai because he's a good for nothing that needs the power of love or anger or things like that to win. That's why I didn't want him to find about her at the moment. And don't get me wrong, love or anger are good things. Yes, they make you stronger but no to the point where you get a power out of nowhere and win. Feelings are there to support you for the lack of other word.

Btw I can't even believe he's THAT stupid to think he won right after 1 minute on the ring. I hope he uses his brain in the next episode if he's going to win.
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Dec 30, 2017 5:57 PM

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This Toguro Elder so damn creepy. And looks like a fucked up Michael Jackson

Jan 8, 2018 6:00 PM

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This episode was awesome! Kuwabara's fear and his anger, Elder Toguro's awfulness made this. Kuwabara definitely made some really dumb mistakes, but I was furious at Elder Toguro. I started to tear up about it. The fight reminded me of a job I had where my co-worker was a total creep, varying between fake kindness and utter abuse. He used everything little thing in his power to hurt me, every little loophole and lie he could do. Also, yeah Toguro should have lost with the count out, but that's the rage against this garbage.

Also, Kuwabara's public service announcement about alcohol was funny and cool and good.
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Feb 5, 2018 8:14 AM

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Basu gasu bakuhatsu xD

Almost Kuwabara, almost.. Just need to make him more angry
And that enemy is perfect for Kuwabara
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Oct 3, 2018 3:28 PM

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Kuwabara is doing good, I hope he can at least pull out a draw.

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Feb 9, 2019 3:58 PM

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So, the red hair guy lost a match a few episode ago because he was on his knees when he finished off the opponent. Now this dude is on the ground at the count of 8 all cut into pieces and says to the referee to stop counting and she DOES??? The f*ck? Get another job somewhere... You are terrible.
And Kuwabara, please go back to the awesome character you were prior to this arc please. Stop with your asspulls every match.
May 4, 2019 8:11 AM

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Really underwhelming fight. I've loved Kuwabara's fights up to now but this one is more relying on him being angry enough to raise his spirit power properly.
We had so many episodes in the tournament which could have been spent showing Kuwabara training or acquiring a power-up which *wasn't* a last-minute thing, but that pretty much goes for everyone else.

Just waiting for Yusuke's fight at this point.
May 31, 2019 3:02 PM
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Well, Kuwabara's time to shine it seems, hopefully...okay not.
Apr 21, 2020 3:23 PM

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i'm starting to get annoyed with the "haha no need to count the fight is already ov- NANI!? HE'S STANDING UP!" that predictable shit literally been done in every single fight in this tournament.

Only silver lining is that Togashi stopped doing that in HxH.
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Jul 31, 2020 9:56 AM

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The Elder guy was down for 10+ seconds but because he told Juri to stop counting... she just did that somehow...

It bothers me because the 10-count was such a huge thing in Kurama's fight, and now it suddenly feels so unimportant.
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Aug 22, 2020 5:41 PM

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So Elder Toguro is a Parasite!
Can someone translate what is written on Kuwabara's shirt? I really want to know
Oh Fuck That Puppet thing was so uncomfortable to look at! Genkai!!!!!!!!!!
Oh no Jorge is getting bullie XD

yep, like I said, Parasite!
Kuwabara is having it real bad, like fucking Crucifixtion!
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Jul 29, 2021 12:05 AM

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Man, I really hope Kuwabara kills this freak

Apr 10, 2023 4:37 AM
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Spyro said:
The Elder guy was down for 10+ seconds but because he told Juri to stop counting... she just did that somehow...

It bothers me because the 10-count was such a huge thing in Kurama's fight, and now it suddenly feels so unimportant.
 That pissed me off too! it pissed me off so much that i tried to see if anyone else agreed with me and noticed it.
May 23, 2023 5:59 PM

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God Kuwabara learnt the truth about Genkai the hard way, he really did. Harsh and twisted as it mean have been coming from Elder Toguro, he basically used this information to openly mess with him mentally and then get him when he's down, what a monster. Here's to hoping he can actually beat him Kuwabara that is. I gotta admit Young Toguro carrying the new arena on his back was pretty hardcore. 
Oct 27, 2023 9:37 PM

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Kuwabara learning the truth about Genkai's death felt like a soap opera scene, lol, liked it.

Let's see if he can finally do something.
Mar 10, 3:49 PM
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this is probably the worst matchup for our man kuwabara
Apr 24, 5:14 PM
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Se sintio emocionante, la reaccion natural de Kuwabara al enterarse de la muerte de Genkai.
Un gran capitulo
May 26, 10:56 PM

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Oh sure, Kurama loses on a technicality because he was on his knees and they kept counting, but this guy is splattered on the ground monologuing and they stop counting to let him reassemble. What bullshit.
Jun 8, 1:44 AM
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The Toguro's are such amazing villains. Elder Toguro is a consummate fuckwad without a single redeeming quality.
Aug 11, 6:56 AM

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Kuwabara be better to win this fight once and for all! I'm so sick of him always losing when he has so much potential.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!

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