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Oct 16, 2014 3:57 AM

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I have to agree with a lot of people, the soundtrack DOES NOT FIT. It constantly pulls me out of the world. Other than that its been great
 
Oct 16, 2014 4:05 AM

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Another great episode; I wasn't feeling it as much during the first half, but the second half really kicked into gear. Man I'm going to love this series.

No idea why people are complaining about the soundtrack. I think it's awesome - especially the OP.



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Oct 16, 2014 4:34 AM

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Shinichi Izumi, catching stones like a badass since 2014

Also, am I the only that actually enjoys the dubstep?


No. I am a bit indifferent to it, but claiming that it's this bad, is an overreaction.
 
Oct 16, 2014 4:52 AM
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nice one.
still, i thought there'll be a good action in this epsd.
i wonder about the statement that the paracyte will be stronger
if they hosted in the same host.
 
Oct 16, 2014 4:59 AM

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The OP is great,and this episode was as well.
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Oct 16, 2014 5:49 AM

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That was somewhat of a funny episode. The gore of this is minimal compared to last time. Migi chose to stay with Izumi. That mincemeat eater probably wasn't kidding, but I'm glad that it didn't turn out bad.
 
Oct 16, 2014 6:06 AM

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4/5

Episode that does not lower the average of the anime, dialogues combined with perfect music veeery spot on.
I find them very good and suited to the various scenes.
Narration sliding and double face, I still prefer the darker.
Plot and already full of interesting questions.
The only misfortune is to have as Madhouse studio for animation, they could make an effort to put a little more quality in their work.
The Character design is always nice as well as the Color Design.
The opening and ending are very nice.
The protagonist is Migi, are already quite marked at the character level, not bad.
 
Oct 16, 2014 7:10 AM
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mm not seeing it as very likely that he'll be able to keep normal relationships with unpossessed humans
 
Oct 16, 2014 7:20 AM

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The OP rocks, and the ED is so good, I wanna hear it again and again.
Hahah Migi made my day, I didn't saw that dick hand though.
Soo awesome catching those stones with dubstep OST, Shinichi is just showing off to Satomi. Hanazawa Kana's voice is so beautiful, and cute <3
That ending was unexpected, but I'm glad they censored it.
I wanna watch some more of this.
Btw, Good job Madhouse
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Oct 16, 2014 7:24 AM

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why is everyone criticizing the usage of dubstep? nothing wrong for me (i'm neutral). as long as madhouse sticks to the proper adaptation of plot.
 
Oct 16, 2014 7:41 AM

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deadoptimist said:

It's not that I plan to write a report about abuse to the authorities. XD It's more of an impression from the scenes, where they were all together - their relationship didn't seem warm to me. That's only my impression, of course, it just seemed strange to me, because showing a loving family usually is no problem for a writer.
I wouldn't have minded, if his brother had shown him spider. :) I think that's normal. I would've definitely done stuff like that, if I had had a sibling (sadly I don't). Parent-child relationships are different, in my opinion.

On an almost unrelated note: I had a period in my life, when I constantly got such small biting critical remarks - I think that it is abusive, if it goes on for a long time, because it wears you down. But I won't insist that it is relevant in the case of Parasyte.


Well obvious I don't expect you to write a report about it. lol

I think it's only considered abuse if Shinichi is actually getting any sort of physical or mental pain from what they are doing. It's clear that they aren't doing anything to hurt him. His mother cooks for him, his father works all day and comes home to tease him a bit. If Shinichi is in danger they rush over to help even if they aren't sure he is in danger. That sounds like a very functional family to me, especially by today's standards. I like that they actually gave the dad more of a personality in the anime, he was fairly bland in the manga.

Now, obviously if Shinichi let out any signs that he disliked anything his parents were doing in relation to treating him in a certain way, then yes, it's abuse if they continue. Nothing they did was mentally straining though... Asking if he's on drugs, pointing at a spider to freak him out a bit, I know it's how you see it but I really do struggle to see how you see it that way... We haven't gotten all that many scenes with them after all and the scenes we did get were nothing out of the ordinary in my eyes. Shinichi never complained once and talks to them as his parents and even relies on them and trusts them to help him. There is no "distance" between them, they are very close and that's why they can joke around with each other.

I would like to ask though. What are these, "small biting critical remarks" that the parents said to Shinichi? That he should get over his fear? Well ya, I guess it is a lot to ask someone to do but they aren't tying him to a chair or anything to get over it and they clearly still care about him even if he doesn't and Shinichi didn't seem to mind them telling him that.
 
Oct 16, 2014 7:49 AM

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that hand tho :))
 
Oct 16, 2014 8:12 AM

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not as good as episode 1. the music kind of kills the atmosphere and it's not as 'dark' as episode 1. well shinichi had some character development at least, let's see how it continues~
 
Oct 16, 2014 8:13 AM

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holy shit that dick hand lol and those bullies are jerks for what they were doing to the cat
 
Oct 16, 2014 8:23 AM

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It seems those guys messed with the wrong alien guy lol.

So his name from now on is Migi eg...

Dat blushing doe...

WTF... dat dick hand doe...

The fact that she asked him if it really was him was rather weird to be honest.

Migi's such a funny guy... hand... w/e lol...

LOL, Migi sure got scary all of sudden.

Awwww, Migi decided to stay loyal to Shinichi T.T

Freaking bastards... torturing the poor neko-san...

DAMN SHINICHI WAS EPIC AND SCARY! I can tell he's actually changing since Migi merged with his right hand...

Hmmm, Murano avoided holding his right hand for too long, I think she knows something or is in a similar situation to Junichi's.

LOL, aliens "mating"?
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Oct 16, 2014 8:39 AM
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I love this pacing. I agree with someone in this forum, despite the arrangement of the timeline still its not a miss :D I have to watch it again. And also....

bastek66 said:
Penis arm confirmed. Madhouse confirmed for based studio, again.


They are doing quite well with this scene hahah!
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:18 AM

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Hmm something is up with Murano, why did she suddenly change hand :O
and earlier, she asked if he was Shinichi... >-> something is not right.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:27 AM

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Hmm something is up with Murano, why did she suddenly change hand :O
and earlier, she asked if he was Shinichi... >-> something is not right.
Yeah, I sensed that too. Maybe she knows some stuff...

Anyway, great episode. Migi and Shinichi make a good pair :D That scene where they saved the cat was badass.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:31 AM

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Aww how cute our MC has found himself a mate. to bad she's doubting if he's really him.

respect to Migi though, his back handed stone catching skills are off the chart

seems these aliens are planning to mate this is gonna get good
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Oct 16, 2014 9:51 AM

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Boom boom AMAZING
 
Oct 16, 2014 10:23 AM
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It's a 9/10 for me so far. I really like this show.
Migi surprised me this episode. He's really really strong and I really like him.
 
Oct 16, 2014 11:02 AM

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There where some people who mentioned the cat scene and why she wanted to just walk away. It has to do with different culture.

In Japan, it's pretty normal not to get involved in stuff like that. You ignore it, or you go to the authorities. In this case, going to the authorities probably wouldn't have helped since they would have been long gone by then.

So when someones purse gets stolen, most people in Japan wouldn't do anything about it. Don't expect someone chasing down the bad guy. The owner would probably go to the authorities though.

Matter of fact, if some crazy person comes up to you, it's normal in Japan to just act as if they are not there. If you respond and engage with the crazy person, and try to report to the authorities after, you will be seen at fault as well for doing so and they may not do anything to help you. They see it as you giving that person permission since you responded.

Anyway, on topic. This anime so far is amazing. Certainly one of my favorites this season. I also love the dubstep. I wouldn't change a thing.
 
Oct 16, 2014 11:16 AM

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Great episode once again. I lol'd on that D part.

The dubstep does feel outta place sometimes, but i'm not bothered over it. Infact, i like it.

Plus the way shinichi glared outside of school in brawl and at the park. He's changing and murano has also noticed it. The chemistry is nice.

Btw at the end, what are those two people upto? Is that what I think it is?
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Oct 16, 2014 11:48 AM
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"When a boy and his right hand love each other very much..." thank you EvAbridged

Dubstep didn't bother me in the first episode, but here it was too overpowering. They should have toned it down a bit or taken another BGM for the scene with the other parasite. It was absolutely glorious with the bullies though. Based Madhouse delivers, dickhand/10, handjob/10, noscoper/10
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"Though mountains crack, and ice will thaw

Though walls will fall, to tooth and claw

Though stars will fade, and shadow spread

On the heights we stood, with iron red.


And as they died, they killed the dead.
 
Oct 16, 2014 12:03 PM

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Overall, im really enjoying this so far, my only problem is the soundtrack is really bad :/
 
Oct 16, 2014 12:18 PM
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the episode was good but the music is killing me.Annoying as hell.

I don't mind the music,the op is realy awsome.

Lmao dat penis hand good joke there. And the toilet scene was even better, i realy liked the romance between Izumi and Murano. The ending made me realy want to watch the next episode.

Great epsiode overal 10/10.


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Oct 16, 2014 12:27 PM

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This show is better than expexted
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Oct 16, 2014 1:13 PM
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This series boy the penis hand, the ost and that rock catching scene was badass
 
Oct 16, 2014 1:38 PM
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oh man another awesome episode. Shinichi turns out to be quite badass(I guess that has to do with Migi nesting in his right arm."Want me to eat you?" => seriously? Time will tell probably). This might fly right into my favorites depending on who of the important characters they kill off(Didn't read the source. Please don't spoil it to me :P ).
 
Oct 16, 2014 1:58 PM

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"omg a penis is so funny 10/10 xDDDD"
 
Oct 16, 2014 2:36 PM

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The way Shinichi/Migi stopped the 3 rocks and "Do u want me to eat u!" with that glare was EPIC!


This scene was so epic that I watched it 10 times at least !! :D

Really good episode, the fight didn't take long, which I think is a good point. I really appreciate to see the way Migi and Shinichi are slowly becoming more complice, and the way they interact is interesting, especially in comic scenes.
 
Oct 16, 2014 2:42 PM

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I would like to ask though. What are these, "small biting critical remarks" that the parents said to Shinichi? That he should get over his fear? Well ya, I guess it is a lot to ask someone to do but they aren't tying him to a chair or anything to get over it and they clearly still care about him even if he doesn't and Shinichi didn't seem to mind them telling him that.


Ok, though I feel silly, while transcribing it.

- When are you going to get over that fear of bugs?

- So, you don't feel well, but you do have an appetite?

- Where's my bacon and eggs?
- You said you didn't want any yesterday.
- You said that I should have a proper breakfast, right? Can I have more toast too?
- You're so fickle.

That scene with the spider. (And before that Dad was reading aloud about gruesome murders during the breakfast.)

The scene with Shinichi's "nightmare". If you know your son is not an addict, but he has such a vivid and scary nightmare, something's not ok.


These things don't work as jokes for me, because their eyes are dead in the process. Maybe that's because they are adults, and anime often struggles with adult faces. Dunno.
And since there were no scenes of affection, Shinichi's parents seemed unlikeable to me.

But I won't push this topic further. It's not that it's too important, and it's subjective, so I won't be able to change the way I view it.
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Oct 16, 2014 2:48 PM

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Does anyone know who is working on the soundtrack for this? I'm really enjoying it so far, especially the ones used in this episode when Migi minced the other parasite, and the one during the cat in the sandbox scene.
 
Oct 16, 2014 3:15 PM

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And with this episode, Madhouse just eliminated even the slightest of my doubts
Pretty much this, my only concern at this point is how far are they going to get into the story. If it remains two-cour maybe we can hope for a complete adaptation? Can't remember the last time this actually happened.
 
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deadoptimist said:

Ok, though I feel silly, while transcribing it.

- When are you going to get over that fear of bugs?

- So, you don't feel well, but you do have an appetite?

- Where's my bacon and eggs?
- You said you didn't want any yesterday.
- You said that I should have a proper breakfast, right? Can I have more toast too?
- You're so fickle.

That scene with the spider. (And before that Dad was reading aloud about gruesome murders during the breakfast.)

The scene with Shinichi's "nightmare". If you know your son is not an addict, but he has such a vivid and scary nightmare, something's not ok.


These things don't work as jokes for me, because their eyes are dead in the process. Maybe that's because they are adults, and anime often struggles with adult faces. Dunno.
And since there were no scenes of affection, Shinichi's parents seemed unlikeable to me.

But I won't push this topic further. It's not that it's too important, and it's subjective, so I won't be able to change the way I view it.


Hmm okay. I can kinda see your point of view but I honestly just think that that's just the way their family is.

The mother is the type to cook for them(Though I agree, a please and thank you would be nice but, cultural differences I guess.)

The dad wants his son to man up, that's fairly normal too. He wasn't calling him a failure as a son or anything, just said he should work on it. Also, when asked to stop talking about the things at dinner he apologized and stopped. lol

Also, I assume that Shinichi didn't have any problems sleeping beforehand and they did rush over right away. If it was a reoccurring thing then I would agree with you but I don't think it's necessarily normal for parents to freak out over every scene their teenage son causes.

I think it's just a matter of lack of scenes with them. If we get more scenes it may get properly fleshed out more and we can judge then. A bit too early to get a grasp on the side characters.
 
Oct 16, 2014 3:28 PM

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Loving it especially the relationship between Shinichi and Migi.

Migi ftw!
 
Oct 16, 2014 5:02 PM

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this is kinda sad but I had a nightmare last night and I'm pretty sure it was because my subconscious was thinking of Kiseijuu.
I don't find the series itself that scary but ugh ;v; I lost sleep LOL.

Anyways, this was a great episode. I was gaping when Migi turned into a dick LMAO. I liked the dubstep OST again.
Good ep! :>
 
Oct 16, 2014 6:42 PM

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Damn, Shin becoming a badass

 
Oct 16, 2014 6:52 PM

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I laughed for a good 10 minutes after that bathroom scene. Excellent episode.
 
Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM

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Holy cow, i loved this episode. Comedy, romance, horror, epicness all in one place. Can't believe the bathroom scene, just lol. Loved how Migi just minced that noob, and Shin being badass.

Poor kitten...

5/5, great episode.
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Oct 16, 2014 8:28 PM

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bastek66 said:
Penis arm confirmed. Madhouse confirmed for based studio, again.


Haha can't believe they actually put in the penis arm. That shit cracked me up hard when I read the manga.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:09 PM

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I want to enjoy this anime, but the dubstep is reallly pissing me off. Might have to drop it, since I dont see it changing the music type anytime soon.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:20 PM

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I can't fucking believe it. They went full PETA on us. There were multiple instances where they shamed people for eating meat and referred to people who do as "demons", then later they go on about how "animals are alive just like us!".

I can't fucking believe they put this propaganda in here. I don't care if it was in the manga or not. Going to reconsider finishing this, and definitely will not if this is a reoccurring theme.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:37 PM

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^ I would just like to say that two different (contrasting and of different species) characters said those things. Migi was the one who first said humans were demons for having a varied meat diet. Keep in mind that he doesn't have a human conscience and isn't capable of things like empathy or guilt. Shinichi decided to stick to his moral beliefs and defended animals even though he isn't one of them. This makes sense since he was the one who first told Migi that they should be stopping those cannibalistic murders.

Sure, there could be some propaganda in there but the series isn't particularly contradicting itself. All I know is it's definitely showing the contrast between Migi's and Shinichi's method of thinking and how morals play into that.
 
Oct 16, 2014 9:51 PM

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^ I would just like to say that two different (contrasting and of different species) characters said those things. Migi was the one who first said humans were demons for having a varied meat diet. Keep in mind that he doesn't have a human conscience and isn't capable of things like empathy or guilt. Shinichi decided to stick to his moral beliefs and defended animals even though he isn't one of them. This makes sense since he was the one who first told Migi that they should be stopping those cannibalistic murders.

Sure, there could be some propaganda in there but the series isn't particularly contradicting itself. All I know is it's definitely showing the contrast between Migi's and Shinichi's method of thinking and how morals play into that.


The message is still there, regardless of who said it. Too lazy to dig up the quotes, but there were at least 5 or so instances of it within a 10 minute timespan. Hope they cut it out after this episode, because that was clearly someone pushing their agenda.
 
Oct 16, 2014 11:00 PM

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ex_necross said:

The message is still there, regardless of who said it. Too lazy to dig up the quotes, but there were at least 5 or so instances of it within a 10 minute timespan. Hope they cut it out after this episode, because that was clearly someone pushing their agenda.


I won't deny that the series does feel preachy from time to time(and I will indeed bring up criticisms when/if they do occur) however in this instance I disagree with you.

Shinichi called the Parasites demons, obviously because they go around killing humans. Then Migi brings up quite the interesting perspective since he ISN'T a human.

What DO those pigs, cows and chickens think of us? What about the goats and other birds that we eat? Wouldn't they think of us as something of a demon?

Now let's compare the 2. Parasites eat humans and thus are called demons from humans. Humans however, eat MANY different types of animals.

You don't see Migi stating that it's wrong for Parasites to eat humans, he is stating that it is a matter of perspective and if they went by Shinichi's logic, humans would in fact be the closest thing to "demons" on this planet based solely on how many animals must look at us the same way we would look at the parasites.

Migi didn't shame meat eaters, he doesn't shame anyone, he lacks empathy and guilt, he would get no pleasure out of that. Is the SHOW insulting meat eaters? No, it's just bringing up a simple question. Would we have the right to call a species demons if they showed up all of a sudden and began eating us? What makes us better than the parasites?
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man, I hope KanaHana doesn't get infected
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Oct 16, 2014 11:10 PM

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Keten said:

Migi didn't shame meat eaters, he doesn't shame anyone, he lacks empathy and guilt, he would get no pleasure out of that. Is the SHOW insulting meat eaters? No, it's just bringing up a simple question. Would we have the right to call a species demons if they showed up all of a sudden and began eating us? What makes us better than the parasites?


No, of course Migi didn't. I meant the show itself. Maybe all those crazy libs on the internet are getting to my head, but when I hear a show keep talking about how people kill animals for consumption in this manner, I definitely get the feeling of a vegetarian telling me how I shouldn't eat what I do.

What's up with the demons and eating living beings comparison anyway? Demons aren't known for what they eat. Demons are known for trickery, lust, greed, temptation, persuasion, and hatred... but not what they eat. Most people couldn't even tell you what a demon eats, or if they even eat at all. It's just pretty sketchy. I definitely do see blatant agenda pushing though.
 
Oct 16, 2014 11:14 PM

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You can tell a lot of the praise for this show is coming just from the fact that it's Madhouse just by reading the threads. I like Madhouse a lot too usually, but that's when i think their actually doing their best work and are committed to a project. This isn't giving that sort of vibe at all 2 episodes in really. Company has probably had it's most hit or miss year for me in 2014....mostly misses and so far this is shaping up to be yet another one. Just doesn't seem to be a whole lot to get attached to hear so far.
 
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shocked that they animated the penis haha
 
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