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Oct 15, 2014 2:42 PM

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Well, I quite enjoyed this episode all the way through. Some funny stuff at the start, but I also liked the comments about humans being closest to demons and Shinichi helping the cat. Murano seems to at least have some sort of idea that he is changing, asking if he is really Shinichi, I guess twice, and moving to the hand that doesn't have Migi in it.
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Oct 15, 2014 2:44 PM

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the episode was good but the music is killing me.Annoying as hell.
 
Oct 15, 2014 2:47 PM

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Well. That was interesting
 
Oct 15, 2014 2:52 PM

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[quote=bastek66]Penis arm confirmed. Madhouse confirmed for based studio, again.

The dick hand reminded me of the anime GTO where Onizuka also had a dick hand for a brief moment.
 
Oct 15, 2014 2:58 PM

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Decent episode. Last ep was better. People are praising this a bit too much I think.
different taste in anime.. woah mind boggling.
 
Oct 15, 2014 2:59 PM
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Wow an engaging episode, i really like the thrill in some scenes, cause the series have shown how brutal and relentlessly it can be turn out in mere seconds. And I like how both perspective of Shinichi and 'Migi' are portrayed. Migi is a really creepy fallow, in this episode he has shown it even more.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:00 PM

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Migi is into one-eyed hebi-s. Murano, not there just yet, but didn't give Shinichi's right hand a chance to ruin their date.

A "fortunate" brain-based parasite in human.


Someone else.


Serial experiments next.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:03 PM
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Love that the are talking about how the parasites aren't actually that bad, if you compare them to humans at least. I expected this show to be just some random gore fest, but am so far pleasantly surprised. Not feeling the dubstep though.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:07 PM

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dickhand/10

Loving what they're doing with this adaptation: tasteful censorship, great humour and perfect handling of the transitions between srs bsnss and more light-hearted moments.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:10 PM

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Awesome episode. Was quite annoyed when the girl noticed what was happening to the cat and then said "Let's go." Well aren't you fabulous.

Opening scene was brutal with that dude escorting the woman home lol. Shinichi/Migi are great, already feelin' the bond getting better between them. I'm hoping the girl doesn't serve as some sort of damsel in distress somewhere in the future. Looking forward to seeing what happens next :D I still wasn't a fan of the dubstep but I'm getting a little more used to it.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:13 PM

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Vexper said:
Awesome episode. Was quite annoyed when the girl noticed what was happening to the cat and then said "Let's go." Well aren't you fabulous.


Let's be honest, that is probably what most people would do.
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Oct 15, 2014 3:22 PM

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Still can't stand the ost but other than that pretty amazing. Good example of how to do censorship in an anime without shoving it in your face.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:24 PM

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i liked the soundtrack except the brostep
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Oct 15, 2014 3:25 PM

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It looks that I am in the minority here, but I didn't like this episode. Visual side is good, music is decent, but some traits in the characters are different, and not in the way I particularly like.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:26 PM
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They didn't do the Lion scene :/

(or does that happen next chapter? I forgot. I always thought it happened before the Gym scene)

Lion scene comes next episode, probably right at the beginning. Mr. A should be introduced and the new teacher (forgot her name) as well, but yeah, Mr A did already appear in this one.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:27 PM

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deadoptimist said:
It looks that I am in the minority here, but I didn't like this episode. Visual side is good, music is decent, but some traits in the characters are different, and not in the way I particularly like.


In what way are they different? Shinichi is exactly the same character he was in the manga, same with Murano and Migi. If anything, they made Shinichi more expressive, which isn't really a bad thing at all(Heck, he was fairly stiff in the manga).
 
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They actually showed the penis hand. Madhouse is so awesome for doing this. Great episode though I didnt care for the dubstep.
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Oct 15, 2014 3:28 PM

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Vexper said:
Awesome episode. Was quite annoyed when the girl noticed what was happening to the cat and then said "Let's go." Well aren't you fabulous.


Let's be honest, that is probably what most people would do.

Let's be honest, the situation itself was ridiculous. Doing that when the park entrance is literally 10 seconds away? Three teenagers without bikes or any quick means of escape? You must live in some pretty ghetto neighborhood if you think the natural reaction for most people would be to simply ignore it and walk off. If they weren't physically able to intervene they'd at least call local authorities or simply knock on some doors in the surrounding area. Not simply 'Let's fucking walk off'.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:31 PM
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this is so incredibly cheesy that it's impossible to take seriously. electronicore op and really badly produced dubstep aren't helping whatsoever.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:34 PM

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Migi asking about if Shinichi wants to mate with Murano.

Lol @ the bathroom part where the guy asked Murano about is he talking to his johnny.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:35 PM

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insan3priest said:
Vexper said:
Awesome episode. Was quite annoyed when the girl noticed what was happening to the cat and then said "Let's go." Well aren't you fabulous.


Let's be honest, that is probably what most people would do.


There are two types of people I have never met:

1. People scum enough to just walk away.
2. People stupid enough to do that like 3 metres away from the street.
 
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Vexper said:
insan3priest said:


Let's be honest, that is probably what most people would do.

Let's be honest, the situation itself was ridiculous. Doing that when the park entrance is literally 10 seconds away? Three teenagers without bikes or any quick means of escape? You must live in some pretty ghetto neighborhood if you think the natural reaction for most people would be to simply ignore it and walk off. If they weren't physically able to intervene they'd at least call local authorities or simply knock on some doors in the surrounding area. Not simply 'Let's fucking walk off'.
You have way too much faith in humanity.
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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:37 PM

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^ You'd be surprised how much more radical people get about hurting animals then humans at times.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:38 PM

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I love the dialogue between Shinichi and Migi. Shinichi was badass this episode. Really like his character. 5/5
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:39 PM

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I'm really loving the interactions between Migi and Shinichi.
Can't wait for ep 3.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:39 PM

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In what way are they different? Shinichi is exactly the same character he was in the manga, same with Murano and Migi. If anything, they made Shinichi more expressive, which isn't really a bad thing at all(Heck, he was fairly stiff in the manga).


I think he is. >< The best example would be his reaction to Migi's help during the basketball game.



And in ep.1 Shinichi's parents were really unlikeable, almost as if they had a disfunctional family.

I don't want to critisize the show too much, but I can't understand, where all the praise comes from. This much praise, I mean. Either way, I won't argue about it too much. I liked the manga, and it's enough for me.
 
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The dubstep is freaking AMAZING
Love it...
Great adaptation
All hail MADHOUSE :)
 
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Keten said:
In what way are they different? Shinichi is exactly the same character he was in the manga, same with Murano and Migi. If anything, they made Shinichi more expressive, which isn't really a bad thing at all(Heck, he was fairly stiff in the manga).


I think he is. >< The best example would be his reaction to Migi's help during the basketball game.



And in ep.1 Shinichi's parents were really unlikeable, almost as if they had a disfunctional family.

I don't want to critisize the show too much, but I can't understand, where all the praise comes from. This much praise, I mean. Either way, I won't argue about it too much. I liked the manga, and it's enough for me.


Really unlikable family..? They were kidding around with their son... that's not normal? Heck, I think neglectful parents or over protective parents would be far worse.

Dad points at a spider to freak his son out = dysfunctional family? In what world? What did they do that was dysfunctional? O_o

Anyway, I can sort of see your point in terms of Shinichi however it's a really small thing that doesn't remotely bother me. I think the fact that he isn't as hesitant about the idea of abusing his powers but keeps an eye on not abusing them too much is more realistic to be honest however I do see both perspectives working well from a narrative point of view.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:51 PM

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Asada-san said:
This anime continues to be awesome, loving the animation style and character designs. Is it just me or I don't find any problems with the soundtrack?

Dick hand /10


yeah, i dont find the music annoying like some people said, maybe i dont have good ears cuz im deaf, not so 100% but i can hear with earbuds (a real good ones and little expensive), at least i dont hear the scratch noise from chalkboard, so it cant be bad, aside that this chapter was so goooooood that felt so short
 
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deadoptimist said:
Keten said:
In what way are they different? Shinichi is exactly the same character he was in the manga, same with Murano and Migi. If anything, they made Shinichi more expressive, which isn't really a bad thing at all(Heck, he was fairly stiff in the manga).


I think he is. >< The best example would be his reaction to Migi's help during the basketball game.



And in ep.1 Shinichi's parents were really unlikeable, almost as if they had a disfunctional family.

I don't want to critisize the show too much, but I can't understand, where all the praise comes from. This much praise, I mean. Either way, I won't argue about it too much. I liked the manga, and it's enough for me.


Hmm? I thought that his parents were quite nice but then again I have not read the manga so I can't really compare.
 
Oct 15, 2014 3:58 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NbxJQpqUgw

i remembered there movie Live Action Kiseijuuuuuu, watch it if u can
 
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Thanks again, Based Madhouse.
 
Oct 15, 2014 4:04 PM

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Why does she keep on asking him if he really is himself?

[spoiler] I was thinking that she might of actually turn into one of those creatures herself just like him and knows what happened to him. Also, she avoided the right hand because he touch her boobs or because she knows about the hand being migi. I hope this clears up.


 
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Really unlikable family..? They were kidding around with their son... that's not normal? Heck, I think neglectful parents or over protective parents would be far worse.

Dad points at a spider to freak his son out = dysfunctional family? In what world? What did they do that was dysfunctional? O_o

Anyway, I can sort of see your point in terms of Shinichi however it's a really small thing that doesn't remotely bother me. I think the fact that he isn't as hesitant about the idea of abusing his powers but keeps an eye on not abusing them too much is more realistic to be honest however I do see both perspectives working well from a narrative point of view.


Notice that it wasn't me, who pointed out the scene with the spider. :D I dunno, I would expect that a caring parent would rather take away the poor animal before his arachnophobic son became scared.
But they also were kind of detached, and made jokes about Shinichi all the time, it looked almost like a minor abuse to me. I don't intend to nitpick, but by the end of the episode I was disturbed - they didn't look like a happy family at all. Considering their role in the plot, I was surprised.

I think that the chemistry between characters in this anime doesn't click with me. I don't see it between Shinichi and Murano as well. Probably, it's just something personal and highly subjective, but what can I do, if it's the way I view it.

It is interesting to analyze the changes, at least. However I don't think that I'll watch all the 24 episodes.

I posted my critical opinion more for the sake of diversity in this thread. Maybe someone like-minded will read through it later (as I often do) and feel sad, that everybody likes everything about the episode and he doesn't have a soulmate, and then he will read my post, and see that he is not alone in this sad and lonely world. Something like that :D
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Dick hand! Gosh, so hilarious, also the toilet scene.
Like the character progression in Shinichi.
And being BA in the sandbox - nice!

I'm going to throw this anime into the faces of everyone whimping in TG and terraformars threads about censorship. This is how you do this when you have balls (like you don't censor at all). I'm getting more disturbed by black bars than by any gore/h scenes.
God bless Madhouse!


oh i undersand u dont like censorships,like me, but most of studio cant afford to pay tax for being uncensored, or if u break law, u have to pay a big fine, a real big. and Madhouse is a big company and they know Kiseijuu will be a great hit that why they decide that way
 
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deadoptimist said:

Notice that it wasn't me, who pointed out the scene with the spider. :D I dunno, I would expect that a caring parent would rather take away the poor animal before his arachnophobic son became scared.
But they also were kind of detached, and made jokes about Shinichi all the time, it looked almost like a minor abuse to me. I don't intend to nitpick, but by the end of the episode I was disturbed - they didn't look like a happy family at all. Considering their role in the plot, I was surprised.

I think that the chemistry between characters in this anime doesn't click with me. I don't see it between Shinichi and Murano as well. Probably, it's just something personal and highly subjective, but what can I do, if it's the way I see it.

It is interesting to analyze the changes, at least. However I don't think that I'll watch all the 24 episodes.

I posted my critical opinion more for the sake of diversity in this thread. Maybe someone like-minded will read through it later (as I often do) and feel sad, that everybody likes everything about the episode and he doesn't have a soulmate, and then he will read my post, and see that he is not alone in this sad and lonely world. Something like that :D


That wasn't abusive at all. Shinichi showed no signs that he was being abused. If that's abuse than I guess I've been abused all my life because they remind me a lot of my parents(Heck, they are probably a bit nicer than mine, not that I hate my parents, I love them, just saying). Now, in some ways I guess you could see them wanting him to get over his fear is somewhat bad but honestly I don't see it that way, I think they just want him to face it, I doubt they capture bugs and dangle them in his face or anything, he just points at a bug to see him freak out, no harm done. Also, detached? Shinichi cries for help and they rush over almost immediately, heck he didn't even cry for help, they rushed over before he could yell anything, if anything that shows a very functional and caring family to me.

As for the chemistry, in the first episode I would agree but in this one they gave Shinichi and Murano more focus and showed the sides of Shinichi that Murano likes, Murano wasn't really all that interesting in the manga either so I do kinda hope they give her more personality but I won't hold my breath. lol

Also, I am perfectly okay with you posting a different opinion in this thread, I like discussions with people... though I am much better at criticizing than I am at defending unfortunately... Lmao

There are some differences from the anime but it's not a bad adaption by any stretch. The story is still playing out the same, the characters are more or less the exact same and it has the added bonus of being extremely well animated and great quality art overall. The dubstep sometimes bothers me but for the most part the music can be good at tension building and atmosphere. I also like the songs that play in light hearted moments.
 
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deadoptimist said:


Notice that it wasn't me, who pointed out the scene with the spider. :D I dunno, I would expect that a caring parent would rather take away the poor animal before his arachnophobic son became scared.
But they also were kind of detached, and made jokes about Shinichi all the time, it looked almost like a minor abuse to me. I don't intend to nitpick, but by the end of the episode I was disturbed - they didn't look like a happy family at all. Considering their role in the plot, I was surprised.

You're kinda over exaggerating the seriousness of that scene imo. My brother is afraid of insects and I've messed with him plenty of times and he and I are still on good terms. All I can think of is that your have a different upbringing than most people which is what lead you to think like that.
 
Oct 15, 2014 4:17 PM

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Thanks again, Based Madhouse.
 
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Penis arm confirmed. Madhouse confirmed for based studio, again.
10/10 aots aoty based godhouse
 
Oct 15, 2014 4:22 PM

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I don't think I can do the music in this show, but that's arguably the least of it's problems. Pretty bloody disappointing so far for a show I expected to like. Have yet to really get attached to anything and the overall vibe of the show isn't helping much either. I tend to like Madhouse too like a little of people here but it doesn't mean anything if they aren't putting their best foot forward with a show which doesn't seem to be the case here. Like nothing stands out about this show at the moment as particularly gripping, it just seems to lack any sort of clear direction as well, but I'm willing to give it time.
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PornSymphony said:
bastek66 said:
Penis arm confirmed. Madhouse confirmed for based studio, again.
10/10 aots aoty based godhouse

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Pretty good episode, I'm liking this anime so much xD
 
Oct 15, 2014 4:55 PM

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Based Madhouse actually putting in the penis arm.
The only complaint I have for this series is that the fights are short.
I need them to be longer and more action-packed if the MC is planning to wipe out the other parasytes.
 
Oct 15, 2014 4:59 PM

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Shiba- said:
Based Madhouse actually putting in the penis arm.
The only complaint I have for this series is that the fights are short.
I need them to be longer and more action-packed if the MC is planning to wipe out the other parasytes.


I should inform you that this series does not put much emphasis on the action side of things. It's very much a psychological horror drama instead of an action series. It has action and sometimes its really good but that is not the main focus of the series for the most part.
 
Oct 15, 2014 5:07 PM

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Okay Madhouse you win


Fact that Shinichi is already changing leaves me excited while on the other hand(pun not intended) him dating so soon leaves me worried ;_; nobody wants to be minced meat
 
Oct 15, 2014 5:27 PM

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omg, i couldn't stop smiling after he caught those rocks at the end.
 
Oct 15, 2014 5:32 PM

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Good episode, but that dubstep track is so annoying...rest of the ost is fine.
 
Oct 15, 2014 5:42 PM

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What is wrong with the music? Does nobody like dub step?

Keep this up Madhouse and this will pass NGNL as my AOTY
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Oct 15, 2014 5:48 PM

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Migi is hilarious. ''Come on, get a hard-on!''
Poor Shinichi, if it continue like that, he'll become a public wanker.

I just realized that Satomi is voiced by HanaKana :O
Also, is it me or she seem to know more than she let believe... Maybe she realized that a member of her family as started to act weird?

Shinichi is kind of a boss to decide to confront the other dude. A lot of us, including myself, would have been pissing ourself.

I wonder if at some point Migi psyche will change. For now, he pretty mucxh only help Shinichi only to survive, but it can't continue like that for 22 episodes without some changes in his view of the world.
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Oct 15, 2014 5:57 PM

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Another great episode, Everything about it is good just about.
Really like that it's uncensored.
 
Oct 15, 2014 6:01 PM

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Madhouse should animate every Popular Seinen series, they are doing a great job with Parasyte.

Parasyte is already 10000x better than Tokyo Ghoul.

 
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