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boating92 said: I thought this episode was weird but I fail to understand why Satou ISN'T suicidal. It would make sense if he was. Because he's afraid of death? |
| I'm not really sure how shit Saito must feel at the moment, he went to an island expecting to be having fun with his "Senpai", but she was intending for him to be killed along with her and her forum friends, that's bad enough, but then he finds out she has a boyfriend and he proposes to her right in front of him? And if that wasn't enough, his only reason for living seems to be to not make others feel bad... and Misaki didn't help by calling him trash and stuff. Okay he's a hikkokomori but what has he done to deserve this, lol. |
| Wow... Lot of things to say about this episode. These people are openly talking about killing themselves right in front of him, and what does Sato do? He cheers them on (the opposite of what he's supposed to) and even lies and says he wants to die too! Stand up for yourself man! You did just fine in the previous episode, but the minute they mention suicide it's like "Sure why not!" - In the end when the guy with the glasses says no, that's what i was waiting for Sato to say, but nope, he just stays silent the entire time. What a tool! You could make the arguement that he's a hikkokomori and doesn't know how to handle this situation, but he's had plenty of social experience in the previous episodes! Another thing is that he asks NO questions whatsoever about these people, this island or what the hell the point of the trip is! Even with Yamazaki and Misaki, he doesn't ask questions, he just goes along with whatever they say, so i guess that's a common theme in this anime. Plus these episodes really made me hate the Senpai character. She started out as the odd eccentric love interest, always cool and always calm. I wanted to know more about her and this conspiracy she was fighting! Now it turns out she was just suicidal all along and part of a weirdo cult that encourages it... No wonder Sato turned hikkokomori from hanging out with her. "I got a rich boyfriend, a paying job, a big house and people who care about me - I WANNA KILL MYSELF!" Then the neglecting boyfriend shows up and is like "LETS GET MARRIED!" (what a disturbing situation to ask such a thing) and of course everything's okay, this was all just Senpai acting up because he didn't give enough her attention... What. A. Moron. Senpai and Sato sure are perfect for eachother... Both being morons and everything! Then again Misaki isn't much better, her speech over the megaphone practically would've made any one jump! (Did any women watch this episode and feel degraded? I'd think so. lol) As you can tell, i pretty much hated everything about this episode. Suicide is a very delicate subject which should handled, well, delicately and I dont think they did a good job with it here. I'm not sure if the show jumped the shark with this "suicide arc", but if not it's pretty damn close. Given the anime's subject matter, I imagined an episode about suicide would pop up sometime but this happened way too sudden and it just came off as cliché and not to mention RETARDED Yes, all this is coming from someone who's actually been suicidal and been with people who thought about it... Deepest sympathies for the other folks in the thread!<3 |
who_dat_ninjaSep 28, 2012 2:53 PM
IcecreamManwich said: Wow... Lot of things to say about this episode. These people are openly talking about killing themselves right in front of him, and what does Sato do? He cheers them on (the opposite of what he's supposed to) and even lies and says he wants to die too! Stand up for yourself man! You did just fine in the previous episode, but the minute they mention suicide it's like "Sure why not!" - In the end when the guy with the glasses says no, that's what i was waiting for Sato to say, but nope, he just stays silent the entire time. What a tool! You could make the arguement that he's a hikkokomori and doesn't know how to handle this situation, but he's had plenty of social experience in the previous episodes! Another thing is that he asks NO questions whatsoever about these people, this island or what the hell the point of the trip is! Even with Yamazaki and Misaki, he doesn't ask questions, he just goes along with whatever they say, so i guess that's a common theme in this anime. I disagree, I feel as if he felt as if he was being boxed into suicide and considering his life being a hikkokomori and his relationship with Senpai and the way he sees everyone else it's not unusual for him to act this way. His life is pretty terrible and in all the previous episodes we've seen how he assumes the worst of the world and people around him and as he tries to turn his life around he discovers that he's got it all wrong. He clearly doesn't have the social skills to handle the situation and the previous episodes just prove it. |
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| That old guy saying the loss of money is the loss of love, what a stupid way to think The face on Satou when Hitomi was proposed to was priceless, wasn't expecting him to want to die after that The new ED is so "normal", the other one was great |
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| Woh this was a great episode especially the dramatic part and the ending, for some reason I laughed bcs I was expecting it but damn what a nice episode! Also nice new ED! |
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| This whole suicide thing was just ridiculous... At least one person should have jumped (I wouldn't have minded Hitomi, sry but I still hate her). So much dark build-up and nothing, but unfunny comedy :/ Satou not even trying to stop them was disappointing, sure the campfire cheered the up a little, but that was all. Especially that what he should have said was said by the glasses-guy. |
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| That scream was just .. the feels man. |
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| I liked this episode...I think it was because of having some drama in it and some humor too.It was obvious for me from the beginning that nobody will die, cause they were only talking about the purpose why they are here, but not about deep reasons, which really can lead you to a suicide...Realising that their reasons were just so insignificant, and that suicide is really selfish and hard decision.Whe Satou almost fell everybody realised their stronger will to continiu living... Misaki was so cute when crying and while saying her speech. And I do respect sempai's boyfriend, I thought that he was unfaithful. but I was wrong, and I was pleasantly surprised with his actions) |
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| So far i basically am hating this series. It's really hard for me to continue to watch it but just for the sake of it getting such good reviews im really hoping that it gets better soon! |
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| One of the best anime episodes I've seen. I love the scene where they were about to commit suicide, but decided to give their current life another try. The crying at the ending was truly depressing. |
rodentqween99Feb 3, 2013 6:46 PM
| Totally different then in manga. But anime got better pacing. Damn both anime and manga are great :) |
| i wish they had all jumped and that was the end or for a comedic ending he falls down and survives i dont dislike the new ending but i prefer the old one. all that evil baby stuff was cool |
"Stop whining, all I did was chop off your stupid legs." |
| I'm kinda sad seeing misaki's face in the beginning she looks so sad -_- it is not gonna happen if hitomi trying to stop sato to join -_- well "ma'i ka~" in the middle finally they are step closer with suicide and then that glasses guy cant do that and start crying.. falling appart... then misaki and other come.. and then jougasaki propose hitomi.. this scene oh bro -_- poor sato I know he has really depressed with all of this and then he seeing propose? so poor :3 in the ending he almost die because almost fall ~~ hyaa kind of dramatic :3 |
| Great and funny episode, I couldn't stop laughing during the last bit . Poor Satou. |
| Damn, powerful episode, it really reached out to me. It really blended drama and comedy together very well, it was like a switch between laughing and really feeling for the characters. This episode did a good job at showing how people's lives aren't really as bad as they think, and how ending them wouldn't solve all problems. The end where Sato burst out into tears was very moving, he realized that even as a hikikomori, he wanted to live. I like how Yamazaki said that a dramatic suicide wasn't fitting for people like them. |
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| The dark humor especially in this episode was so well done. I almost cried at the end. |
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| I personally found this episode ridiculously hilarious. From the crazy chick not telling Sato what exactly she was inviting him to to the ending where he decides he's going through with it after all the crazy people change their minds. That said, the actual ending wasn't funny at all. I actually felt the impact of that as he was screaming. |
| dam that episode was deep , i tought he did really die when he fell , new ending is okay i guess |
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RazielZero said: This episode wasn't supposed to be comedic dumbassThis whole suicide thing was just ridiculous... At least one person should have jumped (I wouldn't have minded Hitomi, sry but I still hate her). So much dark build-up and nothing, but unfunny comedy :/ Satou not even trying to stop them was disappointing, sure the campfire cheered the up a little, but that was all. Especially that what he should have said was said by the glasses-guy. |
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| Man this episode almost made me cry T_T so sad and a little funny 5/5.I don't like what they did to the OP, but it's great to see a new ED I thought the first one was unique and strange, the second one is okay. |
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| Great episode. 5/5 Misaki put down the microphone and step away please. We want to stop people from jumping. |
| Holy fucking shit. That didn't go at all like I expected. I didn't even consider that Satou might accept to kill himself. I just though that he wouldn't be brave enough for that. Like Yamazaki said, they aren't made for a dramatic death. Misaki speech was just hilarious xD But so sad at the same time. We saw that she was in fact really weak and pathetic. Eh, that's pretty much the theme of the show :P When he slipped, my skipped a beat. I like how the sempai changed her mind so fast. Anyway, that episode was way more depressing that I though it would be... |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| The funny part is when everyone wanted to live and the main character wanted to die. a complete 180 degree flip lol. |
| This episode was awful. It was a great opportunity for Saito to grow as a person and the writers completely shat on it. Nobody would ever be that easily manipulated into suicide, it doesn't make sense. It also made me despise the character Hitomi... hopefully she won't show up anymore. |
ph4zoN said: This episode was awful. It was a great opportunity for Saito to grow as a person and the writers completely shat on it. Nobody would ever be that easily manipulated into suicide, it doesn't make sense. It also made me despise the character Hitomi... hopefully she won't show up anymore. Now thats harsh. Saito wasn't meant to grow here, if he had then he wouldn't have been a hikki for four years prior, no? He was holding onto anything he could find to be a meaning in his life, but there weren't any, no one openly stated that they needed/wanted him before, and his only social links were Hitomi the first crush and his underclassman, who isn't really much help. Given that he had expected a nice summer holiday with Hitomi, he was hoping to be the knight in shining armor to her problems. The proposal from the boyfriend blew everything up in his face and sent him down the rage-suicide path. He had lost his last self-imposed purpose in life. His life no longer had any meaning at all. It wouldn't be surprising for something like this to happen in real life, mind you. |
L-RyoshiFeb 17, 2014 8:47 AM
HESTIA   APPROVES |
| That was.....intense..... |
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| I was like "WTF" ? I really like this episode. . . SunSir said: I wish he jumped and survived; it would be EPIC!!! :) I was hoping for that to happen too :) Juliab said: I don't really care for this new ending song. yah the 1st ending song maybe a bit weird that was way cooler... |
Got something to live for, I know that I won't surrender, A warrior of youth, I'm taking over, a shot to the new world order I Am Bulletproof. . .  |
| Looking back at these episodes, Hitomi is a real bitch. She's pretty much the main reason Satou got his ideas of conspiracy crap and turn hikikomori. Then, she makes up some sad story in her head about Satou being her boyfriend and beating her. She then drags Satou along to die with her even though he has nothing to do with it. At the end, she literally drags Satou to jump off the cliff and then accepts her bf's proposal and gives no shit about Satou. What. a. bitch. |
| This episode was so bizarre it just became ridiculous and unrealistic. So Sato goes along with this group thinking it's a nice holiday on the beach with Hitomi and when he finds out they are planning to commit suicide what does he do? He acts a little surprised but then goes along with it as if it's NO BIG DEAL. I was expecting a nice comedic moment where he admits he thought it was a holiday but I never got that. He goes up with them to the cliff and is getting ready to jump LIKE A SHEEP FOLLOWING THE STUPID HERD. He wasn't even anywhere NEAR suicidal before that. I had some respect for him before but now I just lost it. It's not only the fact that suicide is the dumbest way to die and I feel absolutely nothing for anyone who does it. In fact good riddance if they are that stupid. I couldn't care less if Sato had actually jumped or not tbh... Way too dramatic I thought it was going to be more of a satirical moment when Misaki and Yamazaki arrive at the island they would find out that Sato didn't even know what the group was for and it would be a big LOL moment. Then the drama bit could have easily been incorporated because the others were still going to jump, including Sato's senpai. But it ended up being that the others came to their senses on the cliff and then Sato seemed to go completely off character threatening to jump or whatever and it's like he was being a child wanting all the attention on him. L-A-M-E. This series just lost any chance it was building up of getting a 10/10. No matter what happens next. Cause this "arc" was too stupid to ignore. Disappointment... |
| LOL Satou's really funny xD He randomly agrees with him and then dishes out the last bit of fuel they had on a whim and sheds tears while doing it xD Lol he keeps succumbing to the atmosphere xD Omg that confession was heartfelt... DAAAAH~~~!! That was heavy ~.~ her words. Woah, what the Senpai said when she was hugging Satou... "The last person by my side would be Satou-kun" That was really epic o.o And then the awesome OST pops up right after :p *Downloads OST* LOL he randomly joins in and hands everyone's hands, preparing for the jump ._. Is it really that important... whether or not to take off your shoes ._. I like how the medical student stopped himself though. The kid that wanted to commit suicide just because he stole his parent's money... wow ._. Epic entry of the hero though O.o LOL Satou's reaction xD HAHAHA XD LOL Misaki's speech LOLOL XD So that's how she sees him? XD HAHAHA XD Lower than a stray dog xD LOL and what a turnabout and twist in plot xD The only person who wasn't thinking about suicide wanted to in the end xD and was stopped by the others. |
duderusMar 27, 2014 11:32 AM
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| It made me laugh because it was so ridiculous. It just really pisses me off how people are so quick to throw away their lives over one life hurdle they've given up on trying to get over. I guess the joke here is that in the end, the "suicidial" people wanted to live and the person who didn't want to commit suicide actually wanted to die. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
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