worldeditor11 said: People always complain when given the opportunity to do so. Whether is it warranted or not, the fact still stands that they don't like something such as fanservice in their anime as already mentioned by Tsud. I only find something unreasonable if it just lacks a center but yea what you said is true. Fanservice can be ignored if you don't like it. |
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| As a guy myself I'm proud to say that I've never felt the need to complain about it. As far as I'm concerned fan-service when timed wrong, or included without a reason can actually take away from the anime rather than give to it-- Unless we're talking about ecchi, but that's a given. In my opinion fan-service ( outside of ecchi, and seinen ) should either be done subtly, or not done at all. Either that, or it should include fanservice for both guys and girls so that at the very least it's fair and no one is left feeling the need to complain. It's a shame that everyone can't be made happy that easily- I think some guys like to complain just for the hell of it. |
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| Sometimes, its just so obvious and yet so amateurish. It feels like they think I'm some 12-year-old who passes around bikini pictures in the little boy's room. What's worse is when its censored. It just breaks the immersion when you know they spent enough time on this one bit to censor it, like they just feel that panty-shot was too much for our young virgin eyes. Good god, man. Nobody is turned on by your animated panyshots or cartoon nipples. Get over it. |
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worldeditor11 said: No it isn't, it's also about what is expected and impacting the plot/characters. Or else every genre is fanservice because it gives you what you want. Action gives me action, drama gives me drama, etc. Ecchi scenes in an otherwise serious story would be considered fanservice. Some guy pounding some girl in porn isn't because that's what you watch it for. You are expecting ecchi in an ecchi anime so it's not fanservice, if ecchi is related to the plot then it's not fanservice(guy has to suck on boobs to gain power), etc. Regarding this, I will be not so sure as fanservice is a very broad term. Fanservice as i understand it, is something like a service to the fans from the producers or giving something according what fans want. I am watching an ecchi anime, of course i want some risque scenes while watching it. Isn't this categorised as fanservice too since it gave me what i want? So, saying a scene containing nudity or sexual innuendos is not fanservice in an ecchi-centered anime is not entirely correct. Its quite subjective. I don't know how much of Bleach you've watched but it has some fanservice episodes, no not ones full of ecchi but character fanservice. Episodes where all of the shinigami go to the beach, you get to see Byakuya acting goofy, stuff you normally wouldn't see the characters doing, etc I'd consider that fanservice. |
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| When you have a scene where our protagonist (who by the way doesn't have a personality and is written in a way that's specifically meant to be ignored by the main audience, because putting effort into noticing or caring about him distracts from the female characters, and they just don't have the budget/don't care enough for that) defies all conventional human norms for intelligence and awareness, and acts in a completely unnatural, forced, and ill-conceived manner, all so we can have a hamfisted, tonally confused, illogical, obnoxious, childish and contrived scene where some girl with boobs that look so large, seeing her disformed and disfigured body causes physical repulsion, get upset and do one of two things: physically abuse the main character and/or verbally abuse the main character... I don't dislike it because there was a little bit of nudity that we don't even see because it's a television show. There's uh, other factors at play. |
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HasHash said: worldeditor11 said: People always complain when given the opportunity to do so. Whether is it warranted or not, the fact still stands that they don't like something such as fanservice in their anime as already mentioned by Tsud. I only find something unreasonable if it just lacks a center but yea what you said is true. Fanservice can be ignored if you don't like it. It can't be ignored when the Story takes a break in order for you to look at some pantsu and boobies. How can you ignore something like that. |
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AzureDaora said: HasHash said: I only find something unreasonable if it just lacks a center but yea what you said is true. Fanservice can be ignored if you don't like it. It can't be ignored when the Story takes a break in order for you to look at some pantsu and boobies. How can you ignore something like that. Idk, I never really notice unless they constantly shove it in my face which doesn't happen much in non-ecchi shows. (At least the ones i watch) I guess that a lot of the shows these days have that type of stuff so i kind of just associated it with anime in general and never really cared. |
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| It depends on how well the fanservice is incorporated in the show, is it well timed? subtle(except with ecchii where it has to be more blatant)? does it interfere with my viewing experience or the overall plot of the show? is it varied? tasteful? which type of fanservice is it? Does it suit the show's tone/genre/setting? etc. If I get a positive feedback from all of these then I will hardly complain about it but it might instead enhance my viewing experience. If not, then since this thread seems to be limited to sexual fanservice (the most common one anyway): FloatsBoats said: is pretty accurate.Fan Service is just "we don't know how to write a proper show so heres some tits, BE ENTERTAINED!". I think one can complain about fanservice in literally anything, no problem with that. The same way you can complain about the fights in an action anime being boring, unimpactful or preventing plot progression at times, about the jokes in a comedy being unfunny or offensive, the drama in a drama anime being too melodramatic, you can definitely complain about the fanservice in an ecchii show being untasteful, all that it has going for it etc. Complaining about the mere presence of it is stupid (just like complaining about the presence of fights in an battle shonen) but complaining about how it is implemented is definitely legit. Ecchii is not a synonym for plotless (watch hentai if you want that). There are some echhi out there which have decent to great plots, good or even great characters, awesome comedy and on top that some really nice fanservice. ( Kill la Kill, Blue Seed and Bakemono come to mind, ). Concerning my last sentence, I know there are several conflicting definitions of fanservice but if extended fight scenes in a battle anime are considered fanservice then sexual or erotic scenes can definitely be considered fanservice in an ecchi too. |
| Random question but is there the equivalent of the ecchii genre in Western animation? |
| I don't know, people watch stupid shit and get annoyed when there's stupid shit they don't like |
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| Toucanbird's Official Stance on Ecchi/Fanservice: I watch anime for quality story, plot progression, and character development. If I wanted to be sexually turned onto a character, I would watch hentai (and I do). It's about the equivalent of buying the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue to fap when you can just go on the Internet and get actual porn for free. If the ecchi/fanservice is integral to the plot of the show aka. a sensual sex scene of sorts like in White Album 2 or implied sex scenes like in the ef series. |
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| Oh look its a thread from nearly 5 years ago being necroed Anyway as long as fanservice is actually needed for the story, I don't mind, the problem is that some shows just flash you tits and ass without any need for that, where the scenes would be the exact same if said tits and ass weren't flashing there I made this little chart that explains what kind of fanservice I don't like, found it to be right for about 99% of the times (at least for me)  |
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| For serious shows, I find it does practically nothing and deters from the main focus. |
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| Fanservice, when it hampers the pacing and tone/mood of the show, will be hated by most male and female viewers. But watching a ecchi show or a filler/beach/onsen episode and complaining about fanservice is childish and shows grave immaturity. Complaining about fanservice must be done thru constructive criticism, not moody uncivilized keyboard wars |
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| If I want fanservice I could watch ecchi instead. Most of the fanservice feels forced and unnecessary tbh. Don't mind it, but it gets annoying. |
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| because many anime use it as their only apeal, HS DxD is a attencion whore that they always abuse the fanservice, because otherwise I would not stand out at all, it would be like any other light novel adaptation like shakugan no shana or index |
| I watch anime for consistency, not for dumb erotic hints which are principally made to distract the viewer from show's actual lameness. And if I want to masturbate I'd better watch some hentai. |
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| The kind of fan service OP is talking about simply exploits the viewer's biology. It feels cheap. Like how jump scares in modern "horror" movies make you react, not because they are horrifying, but because they exploit a reflex that every human has. |
| No idea why since I don't have any problem with fan service because it has no negative or positive impact on my enjoyment of the show, I have bigger problem with "forced comedy" that is not funny only annoying. (this thing can downgrade enjoyment from 10/10 to dropped statement) |
| Im fine with fan service but there seems to be an over abundance of fanservice in anime and in recent times, they really highlight that fan service. |
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| Its like when you are growing up and you are the only one who has the balls to buy/steal the porno magazine. I literally accidentally stole a high school buddies gf when they was fooling around in his room and I was in the living room watching tv (I had a car and they had gas money). She found his stash and he told her it wasn't his but it was mine. I told her to give me my shit back lol. She wanted me to prove they was mine and show her my favorite pictures while I got some discrete heavy petting. to verify I guess >///< Now you might be thinking that is messed up Soverign, but it wasn't my fault. See, I didn't have anything to lose so I was just being a good wingbrah and going to take the wrap for it. Who cares right? Well she was willing to go even further. What was I gonna do tell him to stop his gf from giving me a h-job while flipping through his porno books. It probably didn't help that I am sure that is one of the few times I was actually blushing. It was my raging hormones dammit! IT WASN'T MY FAULT!!! I WAS THE VICTIM!!! It is true what they say about no good deed going unpunished. ;_; |
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