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7/10.
 
Sep 26, 2014 12:28 PM

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lol I don't if you've been reading any of the high rated reviews, but OST and "feels" aren't the only things that were praised in this show. There were plenty of other things it achieved that other shows couldn't do as well: atmosphere, mood, thrill, pace, suspense, directing, style, and these aren't even all of the things I can think of.
Again: FEELZ!

I was mocking more the last episode doing its damndest to make me emotional. And the things you mentioned also contribute to that "feel" of the show, which it admittedly does well. Now if it had the storyboard script to back it up.

Isn't feelz more relevant to the viewer's emotions? Like how people cry over Clannad and give it 10/10 just for that. Atmosphere does contribute to the feeling but "feelz" itself is a different factor. This show doesn't really give me any of that but it does the other factors well.

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Sep 26, 2014 1:17 PM
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Nah it's definitely nozaki for me. No quality drops, consistently funny and good writing/characters.
 
Sep 26, 2014 3:11 PM

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I liked Tokyo Ghoul and Akame ga Kill more.
 
Sep 26, 2014 5:37 PM

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Lol no. It had great production values & potential but the weak characterization(besides Shibazaki's) and Lisa & Five being nothing more than plot devices (poor ones at that) really limited it. Overall, I just found it good -nothing more,nothing less- and gave it a 7/10. Zankyou no Terror isn't good enough objectively in order to be considered the best of summer but I don't think any were this season tbh. It is one of the best shows of the season though and WILL be many people's favorite.

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No, its just the only grimdark anime that didnt get a mediocre adaptation.


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Sep 26, 2014 5:41 PM
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am i the only one who thought 5 and lisa were good characters?

Yes, easily the best this summer, and maybe one of my favourites of all time. Never cried so hard at the end of an anime before.
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Sep 26, 2014 5:49 PM

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Kuroshitsuji: Book of Circus would like to have a word with you :P


it's sad really. black butler book of circus was one of the best shows this season but not many people watched it on mal which makes it an underappreciated show on this site
 
Sep 26, 2014 6:17 PM

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I considered Gekkan Shoujo is the best this season, don't be mad.

yo is that an alluka avatar?

Yes, it is.
 
Sep 26, 2014 6:34 PM

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My favorite this season is Barakamon but I think the best anime this season was Zankyou no Terror.
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Sep 26, 2014 6:59 PM
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9/10 Biggest flaw: it's too damn short!
 
Sep 26, 2014 7:44 PM

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mayukachan said:


yo is that an alluka avatar?

Yes, it is.

You should have replied with "Ai."
I'm still not over HxH ending.... ;___;

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9/10 Biggest flaw: it's too damn short!

Yep.

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DiviMike said:


Kuroshitsuji: Book of Circus would like to have a word with you :P


it's sad really. black butler book of circus was one of the best shows this season but not many people watched it on mal which makes it an underappreciated show on this site

Popularity: #807
That's pretty high

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Sep 26, 2014 11:26 PM

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It set the bar too high for itself in episode 4. Overall it was pretty good, but not great. An anime driven by its amazing soundtrack, sadly the other factors weren't on-par.
 
Sep 27, 2014 12:33 AM

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Heck yeah, best anime I watched all day. It's even the best of all one summer series I've seen this year.

 
Sep 27, 2014 12:54 AM
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Zankyou no Terror and Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun are the highlights of Summer 2014 anime, at least for me.
 
Sep 27, 2014 4:32 AM

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For me best is Hanamonogatari. Second is this.
But that's for me, people wright here about Barakamon, for me is nothing special.
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Sep 27, 2014 5:11 AM

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Currently it is, the only runner-up is Akame ga Kill for me, since it's the perfect contrast to Zankyou no Terror - one has an overabundance of comedy, the other of drama. However, both succeed almost flawlessly in their departments, so i'll see how AgK turns out.

For now, Terror in Resonance is the best. Hard not to be with that end...
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Sep 27, 2014 6:53 AM

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i loved it. technically there are some issues but i still enjoyed it from beginning to end. and not the best of the season, but my favorite of the non - slice of life/comedy series.


that's almost offensive coming from a guy that has naruto shippuden rated a 9/10.

Even if Shippuden isn't a 9 main reason would be because of fillers and shit. Either way it's a much better quality show than this.


That's your opinion. In my opinion Shippuden is shit and doesn't compare to this.

What is up with people complaining about no character development in a 11 episode anime? People don't just change that fast.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:26 AM

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What is up with people complaining about no character development in a 11 episode anime? People don't just change that fast.

Exactly. And for a one cour, it's best to sacrifice stuff like that and have a main focus (like how ZnT was mainly on thriller and suspense)

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Sep 27, 2014 3:44 PM

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Character development is a buzzword used to make an argument sound intelligent, well thought out and well reasoned, as opposed to simply saying "it's shit" without giving any reason, a comment nobody will even read. Really... not having character development is not necessarily a bad thing.

Around here, it's almost as meaningless as the word "pretentious".
 
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Character development is a buzzword used to make an argument sound intelligent, well thought out and well reasoned, as opposed to simply saying "it's shit" without giving any reason, a comment nobody will even read. Really... not having character development is not necessarily a bad thing.

Around here, it's almost as meaningless as the word "pretentious".




Exactly.
 
Sep 27, 2014 5:19 PM

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From the shows I've watched it's pretty easily been the best.

Akame Ga Kill doesn't know what it wants to be, Tokyo Ghoul is tropey and hardly something we've never seen before, Barakamon is fun but ultimately throwaway and Space Dandy is in a category of its own.
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Sep 27, 2014 5:42 PM
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the first half of the anime is a bore fest, the threats from the sphinx duo were empty (their goal wasn't to cause any harm) and nothing really happened. it wasn't until the train station episode that I felt any sense of danger for them and the innocents caught up in their crap.



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Even if Shippuden isn't a 9 main reason would be because of fillers and shit. Either way it's a much better quality show than this.


That's your opinion. In my opinion Shippuden is shit and doesn't compare to this.

What is up with people complaining about no character development in a 11 episode anime? People don't just change that fast.

I'm not arguing about my opinion on Shippuuden, you were the one who brought it up which is completely irrelevant to this topic. They are completely different animes and should not be compared whether its good or bad. I like it you don't simple as that. The only thing going for this anime was the art and concept, besides that it was average. Five was a shitty antagonist and Lisa shouldn't have been a character at all. Shibazaki and 9 were decent, but i just fail to see how this can be 1 point away from a masterpiece to you. It wasn't horrible, but its a very forgettable anime. I'm not going to be looking back on this anime a couple months from now thinking fondly about it or wanting to rewatch it, nor would i strongly recommend this to anyone over other anime. It simply doesn't have that good of a redeeming quality in any area to do that. Anything over a 7 is just overrated, plain and simple
 
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I'm not arguing about my opinion on Shippuuden, you were the one who brought it up which is completely irrelevant to this topic. They are completely different animes and should not be compared whether its good or bad. I like it you don't simple as that. The only thing going for this anime was the art and concept, besides that it was average. Five was a shitty antagonist and Lisa shouldn't have been a character at all. Shibazaki and 9 were decent, but i just fail to see how this can be 1 point away from a masterpiece to you. It wasn't horrible, but its a very forgettable anime. I'm not going to be looking back on this anime a couple months from now thinking fondly about it or wanting to rewatch it, nor would i strongly recommend this to anyone over other anime. It simply doesn't have that good of a redeeming quality in any area to do that. Anything over a 7 is just overrated, plain and simple

actually no, i was the one that bought it up. why? not to make the comparison, but to point how ironic your original point was (which you have since deleted lulz), being this:
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Seriously? This show is a 9/10 for you? People like you are why MAL ratings are so inaccurately high

you may not understand how one would rate this show a 9, but i don't see how one would rate Naruto: Shippuuden over a 3 or 4 (i'm being generous). you're also contradicting your own mindset in the same post by claiming ZnT is overrated/calling out the opinions of others while also defending your own opinion with "I like it you don't simple as that."
 
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It's AOTY for me
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Sep 27, 2014 11:22 PM
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Character development is a buzzword used to make an argument sound intelligent, well thought out and well reasoned, as opposed to simply saying "it's shit" without giving any reason, a comment nobody will even read. Really... not having character development is not necessarily a bad thing.

Around here, it's almost as meaningless as the word "pretentious".

When is not having, or having very little, character development not a bad thing? It's okay for some characters to be static or flat, but if the majority are - and in this show's case there are probably only two characters that are actually developed - then you have a discrepancy in the plot's progression. Whereby the story is moving, but the characters, whether emotionally or mentally, are not. Something that any critic would definitely point out as a negative.

Also, your post was ironic. Even if I agree with the last bit.
 
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I'm not arguing about my opinion on Shippuuden, you were the one who brought it up which is completely irrelevant to this topic. They are completely different animes and should not be compared whether its good or bad. I like it you don't simple as that. The only thing going for this anime was the art and concept, besides that it was average. Five was a shitty antagonist and Lisa shouldn't have been a character at all. Shibazaki and 9 were decent, but i just fail to see how this can be 1 point away from a masterpiece to you. It wasn't horrible, but its a very forgettable anime. I'm not going to be looking back on this anime a couple months from now thinking fondly about it or wanting to rewatch it, nor would i strongly recommend this to anyone over other anime. It simply doesn't have that good of a redeeming quality in any area to do that. Anything over a 7 is just overrated, plain and simple

actually no, i was the one that bought it up. why? not to make the comparison, but to point how ironic your original point was (which you have since deleted lulz), being this:
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Seriously? This show is a 9/10 for you? People like you are why MAL ratings are so inaccurately high

you may not understand how one would rate this show a 9, but i don't see how one would rate Naruto: Shippuuden over a 3 or 4 (i'm being generous). you're also contradicting your own mindset in the same post by claiming ZnT is overrated/calling out the opinions of others while also defending your own opinion with "I like it you don't simple as that."

I didnt delete anything one of the mods must have wtf. I had no reason to since ive been arguing that point all thread. But whatever you have a point, people have different opinions i guess. But at least my criticisms of this show were reasonable. with you theres no point arguing with as i can obviously see you're just trying to biasly bait me by saying its a 3 if you're being generous. You're obviously one of those people who hate shows because they're popular more than any other good reason.

EDIT: The guy who i quoted that gave the 9/10s post is gone too. Must be why my post was deleted
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Yes..apart from haikyuu!! which was a spring left over so i would not count that as a summer season anime.. but well yeah most enjoyed was ZnT
 
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TL:DR

This show has cowboy bebop guy's name on it and has "mature themes".

Instant AOTS for MAL.
 
Sep 28, 2014 12:39 AM

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You're obviously one of those people who hate shows because they're popular more than any other good reason.

i like a lot of popular shows. :-p
 
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No, its just the only grimdark anime that didnt get a mediocre adaptation.


It's an original anime tho.


yeah i was more just saying all the other grimdark summer anime ended up being mediocre adaptations.
 
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It's an original anime tho.


yeah i was more just saying all the other grimdark summer anime ended up being mediocre adaptations.
I got a good laugh out of that though since people couldn't circle jerk to why episode x didn't capture panel y 100% perfectly. I saw people shitting on HxH's last ep for using music in a "silent panel." Like what, manga is always silent how in the hell...

@ OP - I disagree due to reasons I just posted in episode 11's discussion. Production wise I'd agree though.
 
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TL:DR

This show has cowboy bebop guy's name on it and has "mature themes".

Instant AOTS for MAL.


Well if you want to go generalize the entire community instead of actually reading what people have to say, be my guest
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That's your opinion. In my opinion Shippuden is shit and doesn't compare to this.

What is up with people complaining about no character development in a 11 episode anime? People don't just change that fast.

I'm not arguing about my opinion on Shippuuden, you were the one who brought it up which is completely irrelevant to this topic. They are completely different animes and should not be compared whether its good or bad. I like it you don't simple as that. The only thing going for this anime was the art and concept, besides that it was average. Five was a shitty antagonist and Lisa shouldn't have been a character at all. Shibazaki and 9 were decent, but i just fail to see how this can be 1 point away from a masterpiece to you. It wasn't horrible, but its a very forgettable anime. I'm not going to be looking back on this anime a couple months from now thinking fondly about it or wanting to rewatch it, nor would i strongly recommend this to anyone over other anime. It simply doesn't have that good of a redeeming quality in any area to do that. Anything over a 7 is just overrated, plain and simple


You keep complaining about people rating it a 9/10, why? Some people like me felt like the captivating atmosphere more than made up for problems in the writing. The anime had some of the most beautiful scenes I have seen in an anime. I believe its a solid 8.5 which rounds to a 9. You have no right to call something overrated. I could just as easily get on you for giving Shippuden a 9 but I'm not, because ratings are subjective, simple as that. Not everyone feels the same way towards an anime as you do. Get over it.
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I'm not arguing about my opinion on Shippuuden, you were the one who brought it up which is completely irrelevant to this topic. They are completely different animes and should not be compared whether its good or bad. I like it you don't simple as that. The only thing going for this anime was the art and concept, besides that it was average. Five was a shitty antagonist and Lisa shouldn't have been a character at all. Shibazaki and 9 were decent, but i just fail to see how this can be 1 point away from a masterpiece to you. It wasn't horrible, but its a very forgettable anime. I'm not going to be looking back on this anime a couple months from now thinking fondly about it or wanting to rewatch it, nor would i strongly recommend this to anyone over other anime. It simply doesn't have that good of a redeeming quality in any area to do that. Anything over a 7 is just overrated, plain and simple


You keep complaining about people rating it a 9/10, why? Some people like me felt like the captivating atmosphere more than made up for problems in the writing. The anime had some of the most beautiful scenes I have seen in an anime. I believe its a solid 8.5 which rounds to a 9. You have no right to call something overrated. I could just as easily get on you for giving Shippuden a 9 but I'm not, because ratings are subjective, simple as that. Not everyone feels the same way towards an anime as you do. Get over it.

I already clearly admitted before that people have their own opinions no need to continue the argument
 
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What is up with people complaining about no character development in a 11 episode anime? People don't just change that fast.

Exactly. And for a one cour, it's best to sacrifice stuff like that and have a main focus (like how ZnT was mainly on thriller and suspense)
Ping Pong does it. Better than many shows with double the episode count to boot.

But yes, this is a plot driven thriller, Aria style transition development has no place here. What I wanted to see was a bit more meat on the characters. It's a shame that the worst one, five, dominated the screen time. Omitting her would have made room for so much more backstory + real thrills on par with the inspired ingenuity of the Oedipus riddles. Which fyi to the people calling Zankyou pretentious for that, is extremely accurate in its connection to Oedipus Rex and its significance to the story.
 
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mayukachan said:

Exactly. And for a one cour, it's best to sacrifice stuff like that and have a main focus (like how ZnT was mainly on thriller and suspense)
Ping Pong does it. Better than many shows with double the episode count to boot.

But yes, this is a plot driven thriller, Aria style transition development has no place here. What I wanted to see was a bit more meat on the characters. It's a shame that the worst one, five, dominated the screen time. Omitting her would have made room for so much more backstory + real thrills on par with the inspired ingenuity of the Oedipus riddles. Which fyi to the people calling Zankyou pretentious for that, is extremely accurate in its connection to Oedipus Rex and its significance to the story.


This is my major gripe with the show that might end up bringing the score from 9 to an 8 at some point. Five literally served no purpose other than hinting at 12 and 9's death. Her motives were not explained. She was just.. there. However as typical as they may be I rather enjoyed Shizbaki, 9, 12, and Lisa's character. You could at least see some change to 9 at the end.
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BlueXRam said:
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Ping Pong does it. Better than many shows with double the episode count to boot.

But yes, this is a plot driven thriller, Aria style transition development has no place here. What I wanted to see was a bit more meat on the characters. It's a shame that the worst one, five, dominated the screen time. Omitting her would have made room for so much more backstory + real thrills on par with the inspired ingenuity of the Oedipus riddles. Which fyi to the people calling Zankyou pretentious for that, is extremely accurate in its connection to Oedipus Rex and its significance to the story.


This is my major gripe with the show that might end up bringing the score from 9 to an 8 at some point. Five literally served no purpose other than hinting at 12 and 9's death. Her motives were not explained. She was just.. there. However as typical as they may be I rather enjoyed Shizbaki, 9, 12, and Lisa's character. You could at least see some change to 9 at the end.


This show does an exquisite job making you guess but never outright explaining what it's purpose is. Mostly the characters since everything is subtle. five has a purpose but her actions and demeanor makes it hard to understand with such brash command when everything else has been tame. Then this dinosaur came in.
 
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Nah, not as good as I expected it to be.
 
Oct 1, 2014 7:00 AM

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I haven't watched all the anime series of this Summer. But I'm sure Zankyou no Terror was the series with more potential. Too bad they wasted it.
 
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Could have been.
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But the death of the villain (five) was so cliché.... Kinda ruined the show for me.
 
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Yes. It was the perfect mix of dark, edgy, and deep symbelisem. 10/10 would cut myself to again.

(this was at best an extremely mediocre anime. stop overhyping it.)
 
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My opinions have changed since I made this thread I watched barakamon and that has imo been the best show this summer but i still love this show just wish five was not in it ;/
 
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Well it certainly is the one with the most interesting premise of the season but unfortunately, it suffered from poor execution in the 2nd half. I still enjoyed it to an extent though.
 
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Ratohnhaketon said:
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Exactly. And for a one cour, it's best to sacrifice stuff like that and have a main focus (like how ZnT was mainly on thriller and suspense)
Ping Pong does it. Better than many shows with double the episode count to boot.

But yes, this is a plot driven thriller, Aria style transition development has no place here. What I wanted to see was a bit more meat on the characters. It's a shame that the worst one, five, dominated the screen time. Omitting her would have made room for so much more backstory + real thrills on par with the inspired ingenuity of the Oedipus riddles. Which fyi to the people calling Zankyou pretentious for that, is extremely accurate in its connection to Oedipus Rex and its significance to the story.

Ping Pong was mainly focused on character growth, not really anything else.

But yes, it definitely could have done better with characters, yes. I think it should have been like Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 where it had a focus on plot and characters so it wasn't just leaning on better plot over weak character development.

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mayukachan said:
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Ping Pong does it. Better than many shows with double the episode count to boot.

But yes, this is a plot driven thriller, Aria style transition development has no place here. What I wanted to see was a bit more meat on the characters. It's a shame that the worst one, five, dominated the screen time. Omitting her would have made room for so much more backstory + real thrills on par with the inspired ingenuity of the Oedipus riddles. Which fyi to the people calling Zankyou pretentious for that, is extremely accurate in its connection to Oedipus Rex and its significance to the story.

Ping Pong was mainly focused on character growth, not really anything else.

But yes, it definitely could have done better with characters, yes. I think it should have been like Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 where it had a focus on plot and characters so it wasn't just leaning on better plot over weak character development.


I agree with you because when I look back at it there a lot of characters with little to no development but I was still entertained just because I enjoyed this tho doesn't mean I want point out it's flaws because it has several.
 
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