Slaine Troyard: Good or bad character? (SPOILERS)

Link_of_Hyrule said:
I would argue that Slaine is a very, very well written character. Say what you want about Aldnoah.Zero's other characters and plot, but to me, Slaine is complex, multifaceted, and above all: human. Unlike that piece of shit Inaho, the final episode established that Slaine makes mistakes and is not some predictable goody-two-shoes nor is he a gary stu. His fleshed out personality and motivations add to this intruige. He and his interactions with the other characters have singlehandedly made an otherwise forgettable cast of a memorable one.

I stand firmly in the camp of Team Slaine.

SolviteSekai said:
i bet the charm blocked the bullet that desployed her head shield.

shes not dead.

0 percent chance that shes dead.

alchem1485 said:


Hoo, saved the one that want kill his precious make him a good character? Really!???
Slaine is the worst characterisation in the series, keep stick together with culprit of this stupid war and even saved him and then realise he kill your precious? He, actually must flee from war when he release by saazbaum, and try to save Seylum. But he don't. Good

darkreaperix said:
Bad retarded character (my answer since the poll.... should be corrected or the thread title.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
I would argue that Slaine is a very, very well written character. Say what you want about Aldnoah.Zero's other characters and plot, but to me, Slaine is complex, multifaceted, and above all: human. Unlike that piece of shit Inaho, the final episode established that Slaine makes mistakes and is not some predictable goody-two-shoes nor is he a gary stu. His fleshed out personality and motivations add to this intruige. He and his interactions with the other characters have singlehandedly made an otherwise forgettable cast a memorable one.

I stand firmly in the camp of Team Slaine.

mrmuk said:

I agree. Inaho is just one of these 'too perfect' characters which appear too often in animes (and are over-hyped like hell), while Slaine is very human in comparison. He makes lots of mistakes, but he got his strong emotions which make him even capable of enduring a long torture. Most people who hate him would probably do much worse in his role.

Still, we shouldn't forget that a second season is still coming. Let's see how Slaine does there.

Darklight0303 said:
He is a retarded character with fake complexity that the masses seem to gravitate towards like brainless moths

Darklight0303 said:
Makes lots of mistakes. Mistakes is ALL he makes

mrmuk said:

- He endured the torture as long as necessary
- He helped out Inaho & co. in the fight at Taneshi-something
- He killed that annoying Trillram guy

Also, about last ep. He saved the count. What is so abnormal about it? Remember that the last time he met the count, he was treating Slaine well? Of course, some time given, one should realize that he is the enemy. Then again, in his situation, he had to make a split-second decision: Save the guy who treated you well (given the situation), or just let him die? Most humans without a spine would just do nothing and run away. Humans acting only on rational thought, i.e. almost robot-like persons like Inaho, would explicitly choose to let him die. And the rest of the humans would try to save the person, not thinking about long-term consequences. In his case, he suffered from the consequences just minutes later. A nice scene, actually.

mrmuk said:

- He endured the torture as long as necessary
- He helped out Inaho & co. in the fight at Taneshi-something
- He killed that annoying Trillram guy

Also, about last ep. He saved the count. What is so abnormal about it? Remember that the last time he met the count, he was treating Slaine well? Of course, some time given, one should realize that he is the enemy. Then again, in his situation, he had to make a split-second decision: Save the guy who treated you well (given the situation), or just let him die? Most humans without a spine would just do nothing and run away. Humans acting only on rational thought, i.e. almost robot-like persons like Inaho, would explicitly choose to let him die. And the rest of the humans would try to save the person, not thinking about long-term consequences. In his case, he suffered from the consequences just minutes later. A nice scene, actually.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
The poll clearly states "Is Slaine Troyard a good character?" "yes" or "no".

I know that reading is hard, but is it necessary to leave 3 posts telling me to correct something that doesn't need to be corrected?

Darklight0303 said:
What is so abnormal is that Sazbaum made it clear that he won't rest until the princess is dead. Saving him doomed the princess even if Sazbaum didn't shoot her this ep.

mrmuk said:


As I said, it was a split-second decision. In Slaine's head, the images of the count where he treated him well still lingered in his head.

Try to imagine, you are wounded, and Adolf Hitler (or some other evil guy) picks you up. He treats your wound, gives you food, etc. Though you are supposed to know he's evil, in those moments, you get a different image of him. Maybe not that of a friend, but neither that of someone you would kill without hesitation or let die in front of your eyes. Then, seconds later, he kills lots of people, and the image you had of him based on your interaction with his person completely shatters.

Same situation with Slaine. He knows that the count is his enemy, but when he sees that this person, who kinda saved him, is about to get killed, he makes the almost instictual decision to save him from sure death. Not a logical decision, but a humane one. In that split-second, it didn't come to his mind that seconds later the count could do something like that. The "I should have known" is quite a common human behavior, I'd say.

icontinuetofight said:
top 5 retarded characters of all time

xSanox said:
he is retarded, but he makes for a good fanatical crazy antagonist for season 2

Darklight0303 said:
He is a retarded

darkreaperix said:
Bad retarded character (my answer since the poll.... should be corrected or the thread title.

zum_bum said:
He's a retard.

chickenonthepan said:
No. If that Adolf Hitler insists on killing my family/my love, I will killl him myself. :))

chickenonthepan said:
I only say "I should have known" if I don't know the consequences. But Slaine knows that. Saazbaum will kill Hime no matter what. Or you suggest that Saazbaum's words are just jokes to Slaine?

mrmuk said:

I'd love to see that^^

Joke aside, the point is, I think for most human, it is very hard to actually kill someone (of course, there are exceptions). Most of us have this barrier of morals and stuff, so even if we wanted, I think most would hesitate a lot before actually killing down someone, even if you know about his intentions.


Not a joke, but maybe it just didn't click to him at that time. Again, with the (stupid) Hitler comparison, in the case where he treats you well, you wouldn't think that this person, who is treating you so nice in this moment, would actually do all the crazy stuff he's talking about. Until he actually does it.

I want to add that we shouldn't forget this is all fiction. A writer wrote this character and his actions, and I'm just trying to comprehend why the writer let his character do the things he does. In the end, the writer could have just thought "Hey, him doing this would be funny" or he could have actually put some thought behind it. Perhaps, the way the writer thought isn't the way an average human thinks. Or maybe it is, but in animes, we just expect something else from characters.

Darklight0303 said:
Writer influence or not it doesn't change that it makes him a bad character.

mrmuk said:

I'd like to ask, what is a bad character in your opinion?

Darklight0303 said:


A character that doesn't influence the series for over 90% of its duration only to royally fuck up everything right at the end and go insane.

Darklight0303 said:
Perhaps but he's not poorly written just because he does something that meddles with logic nerds' desired outcome.

zum_bum said:
He's a retard. That's pretty much all I can say. He hasn't done anything right in the entire series. He f**s up literally everything.

Oh, look!! The guy who tried to kill Asseylum is losing in a fight! BETTER HELP HIM FAST!!!!

He isn't being loyal. He's just retarded as f**k. Should make up his decision instead of changing it every episode. One episode he's the good guy, the other he's the bad one. And the statement that he's human, because of what he does. Um....yeh....as if a human could endure so much torture without breaking. I'd tell them everything before they even started. Just kill me fast and painlessly, please.

TL;DR: Slaine is a retard who won't be missed if he dies(slowly and painfully).

Darklight0303 said:


A character that doesn't influence the series for over 90% of its duration only to royally fuck up everything right at the end and go insane.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
He had no idea the princess was even on this ship, much less in any immediate danger. This comment is just totally incoherent.

Link_of_Hyrule said:
How did he not influence the story? He was arguably the most important character in the entire show. You can't be serious.

Darklight0303 said:

There is no reason for Sazbaum to be in the castle other than the Princess being in the castle. Your argument is denied

Darklight0303 said:

No that's Inaho and second is the princess.

Link_of_Hyrule said:


They deployed the landing castle to attack Earth and eventually find the princess. They had no idea that the ship carrying the princess would board the castle.


It's debatable which of the 3 was most important, but to say that Slaine did nothing is both incorrect and stupid.

Link_of_Hyrule said:


They deployed the landing castle to attack Earth and eventually find the princess. They had no idea that the ship carrying the princess would board the castle.


It's debatable which of the 3 was most important, but to say that Slaine did nothing is both incorrect and stupid.

Darklight0303 said:


You are missing the point. Sazbaum made it his personal mission to hunt down the Princess. If Sazbaum was fighting in his very own castle that means the princess was there.

Pik3Rob said:
He's an alright character. Slaine mostly acts on emotions, but most of his decisions aren't bad decisions. His actions aren't brilliant decisions like Inaho, but they do make some sort of sense. Since he has no power in the Vers Empire he had to act rashly and do things like steal that ship to find Asseylum. Actually stealing the ship was a good decision, but in the end it failed because he didn't predict that Inaho would shoot him down in the end. Most of Slaine's decisions end in failure through means that he cannot control, but he still tries because he needs the princess safe.
The only thing that might bring him down is his decision in episode 8. But he dislikes both Inaho and Saazbaum so his dislike for Inaho could have outweighed his dislike for Saazbaum. If he didn't protect Saazbaum then Inaho would have most likely tried to kill him. I won't deny it was a horrible decision, but I think that there could be some type of reason behind why he did what he did. Either way I don't think that his decision could made down right hate his character. I'm disappointed in the character, but I can't bring myself to hate the guy.