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Sep 18, 2014 8:25 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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They didn't waste any time with the torture this episode...

We see more of Kaneki and Hide's past as well but in the finale, really? Also, we get some mindfuck with Rize again. Honestly, this should of happened in another episode. Too bad it also means we won't be seeing the
fight in this case.

But seriously holy shit, the "Rize" and Kaneki moments dragged forever this episode. At least White Haired Kaneki is badass....still rushed as fuck. Will we get a season 2 in the future? I kinda doubt it.

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Sep 18, 2014 8:29 AM
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Terrible adaption,managed to be worse than the already average manga 4/10.The horrible pacing,censoring and filler didn't make this any better.

This did give me a good laugh though,this unintentionally become a pretty good comedy/parody.

Also white haired Kaneki finally appeared
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Sep 18, 2014 8:30 AM

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oh wow, they end the anime just like they end the manga.

completely out of nowhere and with absolutely no closure
 
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Sep 18, 2014 8:35 AM

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Despite some drags and changes on Kaneki and Rize's moments, I'm still glad they adapted this part right.



So now we wait for Season 2 announcement.
And I still hate you Pierrot. Both the studio and the group.
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Sep 18, 2014 8:41 AM

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is it cliffhanger or shit rush?
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Sep 18, 2014 8:41 AM

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I never read the manga.

Watching the live raw, I kept hearing Kaneki's 'mom' being mentioned. May I know the significance of her?



TBH, I am just disappointed with the ending. What happened to the others in episode 11? It just leaves me wondering - unless I read the manga.

Since I heard that the anime is adapted horribly from the manga, should I give the manga a try? I heard it just ended.
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Sep 18, 2014 8:44 AM

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funtimesayshi said:
I never read the manga.

Watching the live raw, I kept hearing Kaneki's 'mom' being mentioned. May I know the significance of her?



TBH, I am just disappointed with the ending. What happened to the others in episode 11? It just leaves me wondering - unless I read the manga.

Since I heard that the anime is adapted horribly from the manga, should I give the manga a try? I heard it just ended.


I suggest you wait for the subs to come out so that you'll understand more about Kaneki's mom there. Also those two people were just random. Kaneki only knew them when they cleaned up Yamori's mess on Ep 11.

Please give the manga a try, I beg of you.
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Sep 18, 2014 8:45 AM

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sigh... a cliffhanger ending, as i expected...

i dont want any pierrots dealing with this again >_<

for those wondering whether they should read the manga instead...
DO IT.
NOW.

anime is 6/10, maybe a 7/10... but manga is easily 11/10 for me.
i suggest you reading from the start. though, for the impatient of you guys... i suggest with starting this arc, so, chapter 47 (with juuzo's introdution)

if you want to read the tortue scene... chapter 61.


EDIT: well, after rewatching it subbed at least they included them all the scenes they skipped it last time... Shuhei Morita, the director, FTW...

this is the start of the action scene in the manga
http://bato.to/read/_/245201/tokyo-ghoul_v7_ch64_by_twisted-hel-scans/10
leg breaking scene
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Sep 18, 2014 8:50 AM

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Where did you guys watch the final episode?
 
Sep 18, 2014 9:21 AM

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So, no one eyed ghoul? But but but I was waiting for him to finally appear! I've been trolled...
Ok, this was... bad. Bear in mind that I haven't read the manga. Someone said that this anime was made to boost the manga sales. Well, after THIS, I DON'T WANT to read the manga.

I already know that Kaneki grows and becomes a badass, that Rize is not "inside" Kaneki, but some kind of part of his personality, that he is tortured and his hair turns white. I know that ghouls don't necessarily need to kill people, but can eat corpses from accidents and suicides. I know that Nishiki, bad guy, turns good guy, literally eats his girlfriend and survives the battle with Tsukiyama trying to protect her. I know that Hinami's mother is killed in front of her and her dad is killed the same day. I know that Tsukiyama plans to eat Kaneki, and that he survives that battle by eating himself (must love that guy). I know that Hide knows about Kaneki and doesn't confront him about it (something I actually expected). I know that Mado dies, and a cute, small, psycho kid is actually an awesome killing machine.

I mean, how many chapters this anime covers? 70-80? More? I don't want to read the manga, because that's 70-80 of spoiled material. And the surprises are part of the story. I don't want to read it just to know how much better it could have been.
It had pretty visuals (even with the censor) and good music (I'm quite in-love with the OP). But that's... it? It was somewhat interesting, but it was freaking confusing. The story was all over the place, thrilling, but no motives, no connection. Most of the characters felt kind of just thrown in, with no introduction whatsoever. I don't even remember the name of half of them. Maybe I'm insensitive, but I couldn't really feel sorry for Kaneki (ok, except this last episode), or Hinami, or Mado. Not enough Uta.

It had so much potential! I haven't watched that many animes, so I'm easy to impress. The idea of "ghouls" was interesting. The "kagunes" even more so. I don't know what I was expecting, but it was more than that. Initially this looked so awesome, and people were so ecstatic, that I became excited myself. Now I'm disappointed, because it still was interesting and I can't hate it. Conflicting feelings suck. Maybe I'll pick the manga, AFTER it finishes and AFTER I forget everything I've seen here...
I'm sad now.
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Where did you guys watch the final episode?

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Sep 18, 2014 9:29 AM
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then ended, huh?

many things bothered me in the anime, since the constant attempt to put the Rize as a second personality in Kaneki always that him felt hungry or something, And the fact that they cut trajectories and events
 
Sep 18, 2014 9:52 AM

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Much like the manga it ended in the most abrupt out of no where fashion.
 
Sep 18, 2014 9:53 AM
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Seriously it ended at that part?.... I'm disappointed words can't describe it...
 
Sep 18, 2014 9:54 AM

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Maya24 said:
I suggest you wait for the subs to come out so that you'll understand more about Kaneki's mom there. Also those two people were just random. Kaneki only knew them when they cleaned up Yamori's mess on Ep 11.

Please give the manga a try, I beg of you.


Alright, thanks!
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Sep 18, 2014 10:03 AM
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Damn that centipede scene where both of them were laughing was creepy as fuck..ugghhhh getting chills lol
 
Sep 18, 2014 10:07 AM
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Terribly rushed in every way possible throughout thick and thin. I wish I could throw this adaptation out the window of ever being made. 5/10 for me.

I find it pretty funny how they didn't even END the arc. They just sat there at the torture place for the whole goddamn episode. Well played, Perriot, trolling everyone.
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Sep 18, 2014 10:08 AM

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This was every bit the trainwreck ending I expected it to be.
 
Sep 18, 2014 11:06 AM

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After reading just 20 chapters of the manga it kinda ruined the anime for me cause there are soo many little changes. the anime is a mess.
 
Sep 18, 2014 11:41 AM
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Wish that it would have covered the Ayato fight scene and actually finish the arc. Needs a continuation to actually complete the story and bring some closure. Don't really expect anything though. 4/5 for the episode. Generous 7/10 for the anime adaptation, honestly if I wasn't into the manga I would have probably given it a 6/10.
 
Sep 18, 2014 11:56 AM

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Have never read the manga, but this felt really rushed. Did not like the adaptation, 2/5 for the episode, 5/10 for the whole thing.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:06 PM

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I was wondering how much they'd have to rush through this episode to give a 'proper' cliffhanger. Answer, not at all. Let's just cut off right in the middle of the arc, lmao. They at least gave the torture scene more attention and we could see our little friend, Centipede again <3.

Meh.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:15 PM

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Still waiting for this pile of garbage adaptation on kissanime or any other sites.
From the looks of it.It was a horrendous disappointment.
#READTHEMANGA do yourself a favor.

Looking back why did Pierrot even took Episode 8 seriously with proper pacing and only to Ruin the most Awaited arc of all.
They should have rushed the previous arcs and only to redeem itself with Proper white hair kaneki.
That's the only part I cared about.I wouldn't give a shit if they ruin the other parts.
JUST GET THE MOST IMPORTANT PART RIGHT! YOU HAD ONE JOB PIERROT! ONE JOB.

BYE! KANEKI YOU ARE SO RUINED FROM THE ANIME ADAPTATION.
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Sep 18, 2014 12:24 PM

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Good chapter. Love that ending with Kaneki eating him. I hope this gets another season after this episode.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:35 PM

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What the fuck kind of ending was that
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:35 PM

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Kaneki turning badass was awesome. He beat the shit out of Yamori. Better have a second season coming soon!



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Sep 18, 2014 12:39 PM

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This is seriously the last episode?
There will be no 13 episode in next week?
OVA? Special?
There really want end this series like this?
Maybe there will be second season since manga is finished?
This anime should have 24 episode.

After OP and promo picture...
I waited for white haired Kaneki,
and when I finally got it this in last moments of final episode...
I just don't believe... -.-
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:40 PM

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hahhaha 2 min of badass Kaneki
F..k u Pierot F..k U
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:40 PM

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seems like we won't see anything from owl
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:44 PM

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that was no closure lol this ep should have been like the ep 10 and at least we could have a decent ending.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:44 PM

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I don't know why everyone hated this episode... I thought it was amazing...
It is kind of a cliffhanger though, but I'm glad they properly did the torture scenes instead of rush it like I thought they were gonna by just leaving it at the scenes shown for .5 seconds in episode 11.
Hopefully there will be a season 2 so it won't be a cliffhanger anymore.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:46 PM

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I'm glad they kept some of the torture stuff but did they seriously end the ep right there? The arc isn't over yet. >.> They should have cut out some of the whole Rize stuff that is such a bad place to end it. No second season announcement either. Yeah a trainwreck I'm a little disappointed with this.

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Sep 18, 2014 12:49 PM

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That was a pretty bad ending, nothing was resolved. He just went crazy and the end? I hope they make another season or something, but I think there was an announcement that the manga ending so I guess that wont be happening.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:49 PM

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They made it seem like Rize is inside of Kaneki again, so fucking annoying.
It was pretty well paced this episode, although the scenes with Rize and Kaneki were really dragged out sometimes.
So they ended it in the middle of the arc. Glad I read the manga at least.
Didn't like the ending /:
It's a pretty shitty adaption but I'm still hoping for a season two cuz I enjoy seeing it animated.
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Sep 18, 2014 12:50 PM
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Well that was a disappointment. Expected more action.

 
Sep 18, 2014 12:51 PM
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Well time to read the manga. Wasn't a bad episode. Teasing of white haired Kaneki near the end with the music was nice touch. I waited and didn't feel disappointed with the badass he turned into. Sad that it wasn't a 24 episode series but can really only count this a fanservice to a read the manga = greatness effect.
 
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I liked that Kaneki turned total badass at the end but the whole anime felt really rushed to me, coming from someone who hasn't read the manga. 7/10 needs closure.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:51 PM

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Did they have a potato to produce this episode? Because it looks like that

This episode was nothing but a huge mess. I expected them to tie the knot, not to just end everything in the middle of the story!

3/10 for this episode, 6/10 for the whole show. It looked promising, but it turned out to be a disappointment.

Hopefully the manga is better

The manga is shit, please don't read it. That being said, great episode.
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:52 PM

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This was the biggest let down of the summer.
This dragged to much all that talking should have been last episode and should have just been pure carnage for the finale.
Second season; kind of want it just for the action scenes but I doubt it.
The song for the fight scene felt so out of place.
This episode no this series was just a mess.
 
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These particular events should of happened two episodes ago.

Loved the character development on Kaneki and how he got to that point (the end of previous episode).

With that said..is this it? really?


Are we really sure there isn't a 13th episode? Because I can't believe they let it end like that.
 
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I need season 2 now!! Well I'm off to read the manga. XD
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:54 PM

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Mannn they rush everything else but make the talk with rize drag on the entire episode. Really wanted to see the part right after with ayato :(
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:55 PM
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Oh, That Cliffhanger...
 
Sep 18, 2014 12:55 PM
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So cool.
Much rush.
Very Pierrot. Wow...

To be honest I'm glad this trainwreck adaptation is now over. All the mish-mashing of the arcs, skimped character exposition, terrible pacing and mediocre animation quality totally wrecked Tokyo Ghoul's image. The manga is beyond comparison to this garbage.

This doesn't need a SEQUEL, it needs a REBOOT by a DIFFERENT STUDIO!

5/10 for this PoS just because I'm generous, although 4/10 would be ideal... Thanks for the awesome OP though.
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Sep 18, 2014 12:58 PM

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Tbh as a manga reader I loved this episode so much!! DAT Cliffhanger!!! They actually did what I wished for when I knew the anime is ruined and at least gave the torture part justice.

Explaining the torture and the centipede XD Even showing Ken take out the centipede at the end ready to eat Jason like a BOSS!! :D

Loved the monologue and the Rize temptation so much!! And "What's wrong is this world" gave me goosebumps >.<!

I don't get why manga readers are hating this? It was actually pretty well done. Far Exceeded my expectations that's for sure ^^

And KanaHana is <3
 
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MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, the torture scene was awesome, the ending wasn't that great. The pacing and the animation on this series were a bit all over the place but I still loved it. 9/10, just because the torture scene was actually really good. I had fun and that's what matters.


A bit sad they didn't adapt the "half-kill" scene.
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Sep 18, 2014 1:01 PM

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Oh wow I thought the ending was amazing, surprised to see so many people here bitching about it. Anyways, can't wait for next season.
 
Sep 18, 2014 1:02 PM

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Tbh as a manga reader I loved this episode so much!! DAT Cliffhanger!!! They actually did what I wished for when I knew the anime is ruined and at least gave the torture part justice.

Explaining the torture and the centipede XD Even showing Ken take out the centipede at the end ready to eat Jason like a BOSS!! :D

Loved the monologue and the Rize temptation so much!! And "What's wrong is this world" gave me goosebumps >.<!

I don't get why manga readers are hating this? It was actually pretty well done. Far Exceeded my expectations that's for sure ^^

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Sep 18, 2014 1:05 PM

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Ughhhh....the cliffhanger...

for manga readers, which chapter do I need to start picking up after finishing ep 12?


Although if this adaptation is truly as bad as some manga readers said (I need confirmations from more people) , then I might consider start from chapter 1.
 
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Still waiting for this pile of garbage adaptation on kissanime or any other sites.
From the looks of it.It was a horrendous disappointment.
#READTHEMANGA do yourself a favor.

Looking back why did Pierrot even took Episode 8 seriously with proper pacing and only to Ruin the most Awaited arc of all.
They should have rushed the previous arcs and only to redeem itself with Proper white hair kaneki.
That's the only part I cared about.I wouldn't give a shit if they ruin the other parts.
JUST GET THE MOST IMPORTANT PART RIGHT! YOU HAD ONE JOB PIERROT! ONE JOB.

BYE! KANEKI YOU ARE SO RUINED FROM THE ANIME ADAPTATION.



I know Quoting myself looks lame but I am here because I just watched this episode.
Oh my god! I was getting the heebee-jeebeez from watching this episode my Heart was thumping all over.Powerful episode.
That was awesome! 95% Almost exactly like the manga except for the Mother and daughter.
Good ending! I'm glad that it ended like that before they ruin the other parts with rushing.
TOO BAD WE WON"T GET AYATO VS KANEKI!?
READ THE MANGA NAO! I"M TINGLING ALL OVER!

6/10 Tokyo ghoul..WIth this episode it jumped to 8.5/10
I'm done.

 
Sep 18, 2014 1:06 PM

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WTF ending?! To end in middle of battle, wth?! It like they say we don't give a shit, go read manga.

They did pretty good job with last episode though but it wasn't enough to save this bad and rushed anime.
Having Hanazawa Kana doing this almost felt like wasted pontential.

I am glad this is over, wouldn't recommend this to anybody.

4/10 overall and only because there were some good parts in it.
 
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