Hanayamata Episode 11 Discussion
Sep 15, 2014 9:59 AM
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
Holy shit, that bento looks delicious.
It was a decent built-up episode with the girls making outfits and decorations. I like how Hana is able to talk a bit about her thoughts but at the same time also being honest with them. It was also nice to see Hana's past a bit. What a cutie <3
It's going to feel different without Hana there though....
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A part of me really hopes Hana doesn't come back, at least not in time for the competition. As much as I'd like to see a finale in which all 5 dance, I wouldn't necessarily like to see it right after such an emotional episode about Hana. If she comes back in time for the competition, it'd just be like... "So what was all the drama with the crying and farewells for?" I'd prefer Hana to come back later for a visit and dance with the group one last time, not in a competition.
As emotionally invested as I was in this show, this episode took the cake. The sudden leaving of Hana seemed like such an unlikely turn of events (although predictable) that I felt the emptiness the members were feeling at the end of this episode. What made this episode even more emotionally touching was seeing Naru be the one that Hana relied upon and Naru being the one that got members fired up for the competition once more. In the process of Hana realizing her dream, Naru has secretly grown into a really strong character.
Sep 15, 2014 12:00 PM
I might actually give this show more credit if Hana doesn't come back next episode just to go the opposite of expectations, but there's no way in hell that's happening.
Haha we posted similar concerns almost at the same time :P Yeah this episode would sorta lose its meaning if Hana comes back next episode. If she doesn't, I'll happily rate it highly. If she does return, however, I'll be slightly disappointed but happy nonetheless.
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Well it was obvious that Hana's mother came to bring her back to the States but didn't expect her to want to rebuild her family.
She seemed like a nice woman tho.
Tho on to the serious part i am willing to bet 20 Euro's that Hana will come back next week.
Either her mother will realise she had more fun in Japan or something will happen, but pretty sure she will come back.
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Yeah, the only way I see this ending well is if Hana's mom changes her mind and decides to move to Japan in order for Hana to continue with her dream. Hana's mom's dream is to live as a family again, so it would work out for everyone. I don't know if it means she will quit her job or work at a branch there, but I wonder about paperwork for school since they've apparently prepared for Hana to transfer to one in the US.
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Um, okay. So Hana couldn't just stay with her dad for that last week or whatever? So she couldn't just told her mother that she has something to do here and she can fly to States in a week? So it's okay she left the school after couple of days in the middle of a semester while it would be more logical for her to stay till the end of the year? Okay. Fine. It all seems... plausible, I guess. hell no it doesn't
Good point. I agree that she could have stayed a week with her Dad. Hana leaving, however, has the dramatic effect of conveying that she intends on leaving and not coming back. Her leaving shows that she chose her family over friends, even if that means abandoning the Yosakoi competition and her friends. This is why I don't think it really makes sense for her to come back in time for the competition, because it puts into question why Hana made the initial choice to stay with her mother and stirred up all this drama, instead of just staying another week with her dad. If she comes back saying, "I realized that my dream was actually to dance Yosakoi with you all!" then... cute as it may be, I'm going to be slightly disappointed.
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I'm more inclined to say that this is a problem that doesn't really exist. It's here as an hastily woven character development for Hana and has to be included just because poor girl didn't have any issues in the show. It's something that could be dealt with one easy question or discussion, especially if you keep in mind that Hana's Mum is portrayed as a very sweet and caring person or - if you want to be more manipulative and vile - she would say yes just because she's guilty for not being here for her child and husband (but I really don't think Hana had to resort to this, neither would she be able to do so and her Mum wouldn't protest at all in my eyes).
I like your explanation about choosing family over her friends but it would be better if they gave some more foreshadowing to that (it just happened in this episode to be honest, at least I feel like it did) and made a better excuse to why Hana must fly ASAP to America instead of staying one week longer with her Dad. Kinda "hand-waved plot point" if you ask me. But I'm not going to hold it against Hanayamata. It's a little cringeworthy, sure, but I find the show good enough to easily forgive it.
Yeah I didn't really expect Hana's mom to be such a sweetheart. She seemed like she would totally understand if Hana decides to take care of the Yosakoi competition and say appropriate farewells to her friends before going to the US. It's just that Hana didn't speak out, thus creating this "problem" that Hana could have solved with a heartfelt speech about why she wants to stay in Japan a bit longer. I understand your point that this development for Hana seems somewhat forced and sudden since the "problem" didn't really seem like a big deal looking back on it.
I also wished they'd clear up why Hana must fly ASAP to America, especially when her Dad is still staying in Japan until summer is over. They should also have hinted more as to what family truly means to Hana, because otherwise we just have to assume she loves her family enough to let go of Yosakoi and her friends for the reunion of her family.
I do agree with your last point. Hanayamata has been a pleasant surprise this season, and I love how they took in all the stereotypical aspects that would typically make viewers complain or groan and actually made them enjoyable.
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Before I watched this episode, I thought Hana's mom came with a lawyer and tried to take her back forcefully, but I was completely wrong. She asked her company to demote herself so she would have more free time to stay with them and wanted to rebuild the family. It must be a difficult decision. I can understand Hana couldn't refuse her proposal.
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only one more episode left and I don't think I can contain all my feels.
Singing the OP as Hana was singing it in bed made me feel so sad...
They pulled the cliche and actually went through with it made my heart break....
I would love to see Hana back in Japan.
"You have to follow your own happiness. So that you can keep smiling. I like seeing you smile more than anything."
When Naru said that, it gave me this un-describable feeling of happiness, probably my favorite line from one of my new favorite series.
Will probably use that in an edit sooner or later
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