Love Stage!! Episode 10 Discussion
Oct 12, 2014 2:50 AM
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EVERYONE, STOP MISTAKING yaoi with shounen ai, it's definitely not the same thing omfg!
Is it wrong to call all homosexual anime BL? Isn't that the preferred term these days anyway?
If anyone is enlightened about these things please do tell me.
(and I mean truly enlightened and not just speaking out of your ass enlightened)
Of course you are right. It isn't Yaoi or more correctly Boy's Love. And I like the term Yaoi better than BL, it has a ring to it. Yaoi is not incorrect it is just a bit out of date. But love stage the anime is Shouen Ai. I don't consider myself enlightened, but you seemed so stressed.
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I almost cried, my eyes teared up at that ending. "I love you".
There needs to be more yaoi anime like this, I'm tired of the only yaoi/shounen-ai anime out there being Junjou Romantica and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. Not to count Gravitation which is really amateur and shitty.
Yes there's tons of yaoi/shounen-ai manga but I want to see more animated ones. There is no harm and Love Stage was a masterpiece.
It was a good run. ;___;
Well you have about 2 full pages of yaoi and 3 full pages of shounen-ai on mal to choose from but I agree with you about making some more.
Nov 4, 2014 2:50 AM
Nov 4, 2014 3:14 PM
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@mayukachan have you read this
"Meana has learned too from her attempts as a clinician to help patients with dyspareunia. Though she explained that the condition, which can make intercourse excruciating, is not in itself a disorder of low desire, she said that her patients reported reduced genital pain as their desire increased. The problem was how to augment desire, and despite prevailing wisdom, the answer, she told me, had “little to do with building better relationships,” with fostering communication between patients and their partners. She rolled her eyes at such niceties. She recalled a patient whose lover was thoroughly empathetic and asked frequently during lovemaking, “ ‘Is this O.K.?’ Which was very unarousing to her. It was loving, but there was no oomph” — no urgency emanating from the man, no sign that his craving of the patient was beyond control.
“Female desire,” Meana said, speaking broadly and not only about her dyspareunic patients, “is not governed by the relational factors that, we like to think, rule women’s sexuality as opposed to men’s.” She finished a small qualitative study last year consisting of long interviews with 20 women in marriages that were sexually troubled. Although bad relationships often kill desire, she argued, good ones don’t guarantee it. She quoted from one participant’s representative response: “We kiss. We hug. I tell him, ‘I don’t know what it is.’ We have a great relationship. It’s just that one area” — the area of her bed, the place desolated by her loss of lust.
The generally accepted therapeutic notion that, for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, Meana told me, often misguided. “Really,” she said, “women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic” — it is dominated by the yearnings of “self-love,” by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”
Like Chivers, Meana thinks of female sexuality as divided into two systems. But Meana conceives of those systems in a different way than her colleague. On the one hand, as Meana constructs things, there is the drive of sheer lust, and on the other the impetus of value. For evolutionary and cultural reasons, she said, women might set a high value on the closeness and longevity of relationships: “But it’s wrong to think that because relationships are what women choose they’re the primary source of women’s desire.”
Meana spoke about two elements that contribute to her thinking: first, a great deal of data showing that, as measured by the frequency of fantasy, masturbation and sexual activity, women have a lower sex drive than men, and second, research suggesting that within long-term relationships, women are more likely than men to lose interest in sex. Meana posits that it takes a greater jolt, a more significant stimulus, to switch on a woman’s libido than a man’s. “If I don’t love cake as much as you,” she told me, “my cake better be kick-butt to get me excited to eat it.” And within a committed relationship, the crucial stimulus of being desired decreases considerably, not only because the woman’s partner loses a degree of interest but also, more important, because the woman feels that her partner is trapped, that a choice — the choosing of her — is no longer being carried out.
A symbolic scene ran through Meana’s talk of female lust: a woman pinned against an alley wall, being ravished. Here, in Meana’s vision, was an emblem of female heat. The ravisher is so overcome by a craving focused on this particular woman that he cannot contain himself; he transgresses societal codes in order to seize her, and she, feeling herself to be the unique object of his desire, is electrified by her own reactive charge and surrenders.
Yet while Meana minimized the role of relationships in stoking desire, she didn’t dispense with the sexual relevance, for women, of being cared for and protected. “What women want is a real dilemma,” she said. Earlier, she showed me, as a joke, a photograph of two control panels, one representing the workings of male desire, the second, female, the first with only a simple on-off switch, the second with countless knobs. “Women want to be thrown up against a wall but not truly endangered. Women want a caveman and caring. If I had to pick an actor who embodies all the qualities, all the contradictions, it would be Denzel Washington. He communicates that kind of power and that he is a good man.”
After our discussion of the alley encounter, we talked about erotic — as opposed to aversive — fantasies of rape. According to an analysis of relevant studies published last year in The Journal of Sex Research, an analysis that defines rape as involving “the use of physical force, threat of force, or incapacitation through, for example, sleep or intoxication, to coerce a woman into sexual activity against her will,” between one-third and more than one-half of women have entertained such fantasies, often during intercourse, with at least 1 in 10 women fantasizing about sexual assault at least once per month in a pleasurable way.
The appeal is, above all, paradoxical, Meana pointed out: rape means having no control, while fantasy is a domain manipulated by the self. She stressed the vast difference between the pleasures of the imagined and the terrors of the real. “I hate the term ‘rape fantasies,’ ” she went on. “They’re really fantasies of submission.” She spoke about the thrill of being wanted so much that the aggressor is willing to overpower, to take. “But ‘aggression,’ ‘dominance,’ I have to find better words. ‘Submission’ isn’t even a good word” — it didn’t reflect the woman’s imagining of an ultimately willing surrender."
"rapey" as you say (don't agree with that description tbh) is good, very good
Nov 5, 2014 1:09 PM
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@mayukachan have you read this
reading an article about the psychological side of female's needs for rape does not change how i feel about said anime
nor does it change my morals
either way, the shows i mentioned aren't well written even if you took the non-consensual out.
in the end, it doesn't change that sekaiichi and junjou had unconsensual which is equal to rape
watch nodame cantabile
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OK, why did I like this so much? I'm a straight guy without any prior yaoi/shounen-ai experience, and yet I loved this. Odd. But yeah, 7.5/10
Everything that isn’t necessary to getting what we want is gone. There’s an abundance of it all, thanks to science. Food is everywhere and it overflows and there’s nothing to worry about because we have and we want and we take. We’re, and by we I mean people, we’re everywhere and we spill over into one another and we’re all knit together, physically and mentally. It’s an exquisite landscape of things that don’t ever run out to see and touches and tastes and smells and mating and eating and mindless fighting and eating-mating and fighting-eating and fighting-
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I fucking loved this shounen ai anime! They were just so cute together and i swer i could feel a pink fluffy bunny jumping inside of me in the last episode! Sooo happy Izumi confessed to Ryouma! Can't explain how good it is!
10000000000000000000/10 i promise!
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Ships are sailing right to the OTP island! Dream come true! It's canon!
Well what can I say. I watched this anime to make little start with yaoi anime. I hoped this anime makes me tolerate yaoi better. Welp this turned me so gay and I'm a girl lol
Really good anime and sweet characters. I'd like to see season 2
Oct 29, 2016 8:52 AM
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They better make more anime for this. I dont care if its about izumi after he goes into show buisness or about the implied connection between rei and shougo(theres a manga about them so they can totally adapt that into an anime) I need there to be more to this story. Im sure this is the opinion of most of the fans who watched this anime. I just live thiss one so much I seen it three times.two of those times were between two and seven in the morning and I just watched it today. Its sad its only 10 eps when most are 12 eps while some even have 13 in a season
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