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Sep 2, 2014 12:58 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Ah and the return of Aladdin. Here is where it begins along with his partner Ugo. Speaking of which, he set some interesting new rules to the New World he built.
 
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Sep 2, 2014 7:07 AM

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its over?
giff me my alibaba
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Sep 3, 2014 6:16 AM

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We are Here!!! Aw Man!!! Ugo Created new World! So all Animals were turned into Humans, expect Red Lions AKA Faelis. And Dragons...And Torran Tribe Knows About Alma Toran!!!! XD And Alladin has Sheba's Rukh....XD

Oh MAn the Reactions will be most interesting!!! Cannot wait!!!! Now the most interesting part of the entire Magi series will Start I think
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so fanalis are the red lions who accidently wander to human world gate?
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So ugo turned everyone into humans and the other species were ok with that? And damn the fanalis were able to resist the strongest magicians magic. I felt a little sorry for aladdin. He just wanted a friend.
 
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So ugo turned everyone into humans and the other species were ok with that? And damn the fanalis were able to resist the strongest magicians magic. I felt a little sorry for aladdin. He just wanted a friend.


Most of them probably cared more about equality than the kind of species they weer born as.
Besides Fanalis, they preferred staying badass ;P
 
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Mmm so the original humans are magicians?
 
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Sep 3, 2014 8:26 AM

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I guess this flashback is over. So the dungeons were basically the underground cities they were living in and Ugo turned everyone into humans. Good chapter.
 
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The background info is now complete. Now we can move on to the next arc I guess.
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Sep 3, 2014 8:58 AM

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I don't understand how al thamen came to the new world... Could somebody explain?
 
Sep 3, 2014 9:24 AM

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I agree with Ugo, Solomon's concept of equality, while touching, is not realistic. I wonder what really happened to the origin dragon. As for the fanalis, they seem to turn into humans once they leave their continent and enter the new world.

The matter of Al-Thamen and how they traveled to the new world is not fully explained, but it might be left for another time. As far as we know, the tunnel only connects to Alma Torran and they were sealed in another dimension, so I wonder what they did. Also, judging by the staves, we don't see Arba among them, though the woman in the center looks like she's from Kou. After the Balbadd arc they stated they've been operating for centuries, but kidnapping Judar and summoning the black spot plan that she came up with didn't happen until she became empress, so I wonder if there's something to do with the timing for both.

Did Judar also raise dungeons for Hakuyuu and Hakuren? I can't imagine they weren't king vessel material and Judar, according to Viz's translation, was fond of Hakutoku and his family. Can't wait to see my biseinens and Alibaba and co in the next chapter and wonder if Hakuryuu and Judar will show up.
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Sep 3, 2014 9:31 AM

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It's finally over of Alma Toran and everything was explained. I will be missing these chapters! Though at the same time I can't wait for getting back to main characters and see everyone's reaction to this story.
 
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SofiaviBritannia said:
I don't understand how al thamen came to the new world... Could somebody explain?

their body still sealed, so they use 'doll' to transfer their mind into it?
not sure though
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Sep 3, 2014 11:09 AM

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Damn that was one hella forced chapter, looks like it marks the end of flashback arc.

Aladdin just popped out lol.
 
Sep 3, 2014 11:18 AM

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Liked the concept , damn Ugo is a great character and basically is the mastermind behind their survival , wonder if he will appear anytime soon , miss Ali and Mor and the gang xD
 
Sep 3, 2014 11:35 AM

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Great chapter! Those Red Lions being Fanalis is really interesting.
 
Sep 3, 2014 12:07 PM

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I really wish this arc was the introduction to the series.
 
Sep 3, 2014 1:53 PM

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Loved how the last page was the beginning of everything :D Great chap.

Not everything but lots of stuff were finally explained so that was good stuff ^^

Chibi Aladdin at the time of birth looked creepy and cute at the same time lol

And Chibi Mor looked cute although her situation wasn't :(

Loved the explanation about the Red Lions being too strong for the magic, them and the dragons :O I wonder if there will be dragons that can take human form like the Finalis later on?

And interesting to know the origin of all magicians was the original humans :O While the normal humans were originally all the different creatures.

The explanation about the dungeons was nice too.

Good stuff ^^ Can't wait for the main cast :3
 
Sep 3, 2014 2:39 PM

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Amazing 10/10 chapter, we have come full circle now, the ending page was beautiful.
 
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Amazing 10/10 chapter, we have come full circle now, the ending page was beautiful.

This.

I truly hope that this gets animated, it's just too good =D
 
Sep 3, 2014 6:21 PM

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Aw, that last page looked so nostalgic.Chibi Mor!...and poor Mor.
Seriously, what a great chapter - i can feel that Shinobu wants to finish this really fast (or rather stupid fans want her to do it) but im still loving it, 10/10.
 
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Is this the end of the flashback?
 
Sep 3, 2014 11:44 PM
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its over?
giff me my alibaba

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Really liked that last page, that scene always makes me want to cry. So the story will finally move forward once again?
 
Sep 4, 2014 9:18 AM

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Aladdin is cute ^-^
 
Sep 4, 2014 5:50 PM

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Of course she brought it back to the beginning with Ugo getting his wish fulfilled. Ugo really needed that cherry on top to give the arc the best resolution.

Holy shit Ohtaka drawing Aladdin's eyes the way she drew the cold hearted Sheba, feels off the fucking chaaaarts(this is much better than my hopes of Aladdin being the traitor magi). Poor freaking Aladdin, and poor freaking Sheba man..

I really would have liked a whole chapter to fully flesh out Ugo's time in the Sacred Palace before Aladdin, and of course with Aladdin. Would have been nice to see him going from cold deadpan eyed Sheba to the curious Aladdin, and then a little more time building up his outburst, and subsequent request to be friends with Ugo. It still got the feels across and I'm really glad she used that aspect to further build Aladdin and Ugo's relationship, as well as their individual characters, so I'm not complaining.

I assume we'll get some more detail on Al-Thamen's reappearance maybe when we get more background on Arba. The only thing I can say is that they have to be operating under the rukh from Alma Toran as opposed to the rukh of the new world, otherwise their existence would be even more of a contradiction. I suppose simply knowing about Alma Toran as they do allows one to deviate from Solomon's Will(even if only slightly). But since it seems like the Fanalis must give up their memories as well as their true form and power if they want to leave their transported Alma Toran continent and go into the new world, it makes it hard to imagine how Al-Thamen is working around Solomon's Will. I can only guess that their black rukh that remains from Alma Toran allows them to enter the new world without falling to the great flow. It must be very difficult for them to be able to leave this other dimension though, as we've only really seen Ithnan, Arba, and Falan aside from a few others that Arba probably brought with her. So it may have something to do with the strength of their will, as those three are the only ones left at this point that know the whole story firsthand.

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Mmm so the original humans are magicians?

Mogamett is declaring victory from the grave.
 
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Regarding Hakuyuu and Hakuren, in this chapter we see kid Judar raising five dungeons. Could he have raised two of them for Hakuyuu and Hakuren? We know two of them are Agares and Astaroth, which Kouen captured in the same year. The third is Dantalion, which he raised for Koumei and the last two could be Phenex and Leraje, which were captured some years later after their death. Maybe Judar raised Paimon and Vinea dungeons for Hakuei and Kougyoku later on.
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Ah what a great ending for a long arc, its nice to know how it all originated from, and how the idea of the dijin system came to be, it was also nice seeing Aladdin! But I'm so happy that we get to see Alibaba and Morgiana soon, I really miss them. Besides I want to know everyone's reactions to finding out the truth of it all.
 
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I still can't get over the fact that Ugo kept Aladdin in fetus form for probably centuries and centuries. That just isn't natural man!
But yay, it's finally over! The last panel really got me. Also, I wonder why the red lions were forced into their own part of the world, but the few dragons we see every so often weren't. Maybe the dragons weren't powerful enough to worry about.
Also, I find it kind of funny to imagine that all of the characters we know and love technically are descendants of people who weren't originally human.
I also wonder how one becomes immortal. Ugo was going on about it like just anyone can be immortal if you have a few Rukh handy.
But the thing about the dungeons being the underground towns is really cool. That means that whenever someone goes to a dungeon they are going to a different world- Alma Toran, without even realizing it.
It's also good to know that the Djinn aren't just weird genie spirits. They are actually people that are living and breathing in another world.
I'm excited to see the old crew next chapter, especially Morg because now she knows what the heck she is.
 
Sep 7, 2014 9:27 AM

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Spent two days reading from chapter 1 till this latest chapter.

What a perfect chapter to end the marathon. :)
 
Sep 14, 2014 12:33 AM

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Oh my, is that baby judal? so cuteeee!

love this arc and i really like ugo :)
 
Sep 19, 2014 10:58 AM

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and thus ends the best magi arc so far...
 
Oct 18, 2014 6:13 PM

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i guess fanalis are descendant of the red lion tribe

So it seems that the flashbacks over?

 
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So the only real humans are the Torran Tribe, lol? I wonder how the others will feel about that.
Also we see how Alladin is just like Solomon by asking for a friend. Solomon told to Sheba that he left from his house because he wanted to make friends, remember?


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SofiaviBritannia said:
I don't understand how al thamen came to the new world... Could somebody explain?

their body still sealed, so they use 'doll' to transfer their mind into it?
not sure though


Well until now every Al-Thamen that was killed turned into a doll. But how can Ren Gyokuen be a doll if she even gave birth to children?
That means that she probably just controls the mind of the original Ren Gyokuen and Ren Gyokuen is not actually an evil person but she is simply controlled by the spirit of Arba.
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So this is how Aladdin came to be.
This was a really great arc.
 
Apr 24, 2016 8:06 AM

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This arc was amaze. I finally realise why there's time skip when they get back from dungeons and why they see a torn world when they enter and earth when they leave. They travel to Alma Toran for dungeons and back to Earth!! No wonder people say they have gone for ages, but to the characters it's just a brief moment. I wonder what other secrets there are to be told.
 
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Anyone else crying for Ugo? For the sake of Solomon Ugo gave up his humanity to become a Djinn, he took up responsibility of leadership of all the tribes, created a new world and constructed its principles, watched over the new world and resurrected the son of his dead king. This kind of loyalty where can I find my own Ugo!
 
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i pretty much like this alma toran arc. after the friendship, love, despair and then they put the worlds hope, aladdin in the end of the flashback!
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Really a beautiful and heartwarming chapter ...
It was so touching when the djinns accept Ugo's rules sincerely (although it looks like not really works for Zagan because he was become more tsundere as the time), and.. The last page ... :'))
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