| Every dual core processor not older than from 2009 + integrated graphics + a good SSD (Crucial MX100/M550/M500 or Samsung 840 Evo/Pro/850 Pro) should suffice your standards. |
| He asked about "fast" desktops. The difference between a normal HDD and a SSD makes it boot and appear faster than the difference between a dual and a quad core. Also, when you are used to a SSD, you don't want to boot from a HDD ever again. |
| God Box, unlikely anyone can afford it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/ars-technica-system-guide-august-2014/5/ |
tulongest said: 18k 0.0God Box, unlikely anyone can afford it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/ars-technica-system-guide-august-2014/5/ |
Noboru said: He asked about "fast" desktops. The difference between a normal HDD and a SSD makes it boot and appear faster than the difference between a dual and a quad core. While you're right at that let's be honest here, OP shows not a lot of knowledge about this stuff and I dare to argue it wouldn't matter if SSD or HDD is used. Purchasing an SSD for a faster booting time and faster startup time for the browser of choice to just surf pornsites the web is an absurd thought as well. It is of no gain for exchange of more money. In addition, we'd need to know whether or not the OP is streaming or downloading (and archiving) anime. If it is the latter, HDD is the way to go given the fact SSDs with a greater storage are hilariously expensive. Although, there is no reason to not go "hybrid", an SSD for booting and HDD for storage. SSD isn't the sole solution to OPs question. ;) Any modern PC is by nature fast and reliable and will suffice. To get a more specific answer, you'd need to explain your needs further than you did, OP. |
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html said: tulongest said: 18k 0.0God Box, unlikely anyone can afford it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/ars-technica-system-guide-august-2014/5/ A lot of diminishing returns on that thing. But y'know if you're rich why not :p |
| Although you stated you are looking for a desktop, but seeing that you are using it for anime, school work and surfing the web, I highly suggest getting a laptop instead. |
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nantuko said: Purchasing an SSD for a faster booting time and faster startup time for the browser of choice to just surf pornsites the web is an absurd thought as well. It is of no gain for exchange of more money. Oh come on! $80 for 128GB or $110 for 256GB aren't that much. Besides, if OP needs more space, he could get a 3TB HDD for ~ $120 and simply plug it in. Or a 2TB HDD, or an 1TB HDD or a 4TB+ HDD, or 2 3TB HDDs or 2 2TB HDDs and so on. But if he installed on a HDD and needed more speed, he would need to re-install Windows. Also, it's not only about the browser and booting time, but other things start and/or work faster, too. Like for example: - installing programs - extracting files - installing Windows updates and program updates - installing (new) drivers - scanning the computer with your AV/ a Linux based scanner/an on-demand scanner like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware - loading maps/(huge) multiple files - copying/moving many files at the same time, especially smaller ones - opening/working with multiple programs at once, because the very low reaction time compared to a HDD allows fast access Summing all up makes for a more than decent gain of not wasted time, taking into account that you don't have to (and shouldn't) defrag your SSD, since fragmentation won't affect it that negatively like it would for a HDD. If that's not worth at least $80 or better: $110 because of the price-performance-ratio, then I don't know what else to say. Everyone should decide for themselves, whether they can still bear wasting time on a comparatively snail-slow HDD for the OS or switches to the current, modern standard of using a SSD for the OS and programs at least. edit: if OP decided to buy a laptop, I'd either switch the internal HDD for a 256GB SSD or for the 512GB variant. This should more than suffice for most people and if there's a need for more space, you could always buy an external HDD drive on plus. |
NoboruAug 29, 2014 3:20 PM
Noboru said: Dude, calm down, let's not start a flamewar. I said it myself: nantuko said: Although, there is no reason to not go "hybrid", an SSD for booting and HDD for storage. It's still just the information OP gave us isn't enough to say go for SSD alone. And a Kingston 120GB SSD for 57,86€ compared to a WD 1TB for 51,05€ is a huuuge difference, though. |
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| @nantuko: I don't regard a small discussion as a "flamewar" and I'm sorry, since I have kind of read over this particular sentence. Well, I agree with you that we should wait for more information from the OP. Maybe he's really tight on money and needs a HDD because it has much, cheap space. Or he needs a HDD, because he's going to buy a laptop, needs a lot of internal space and can't afford a SSD in his preferred space regions. Other than that, "hybrid" is the way to go if you can afford it, which isn't much, especially if you don't need to spend money on a (high class) GPU and/or high class CPU. Or only with a SSD if the internal space is enough. But that depends on the OP. btw: I wouldn't recommend the Kingston SSD because the Sandforce Controller is not so good compared to Marvell (Crucial) and Samsung and because it's not a NAND memory producer, so having good quality NAND is kind of a gamble with a Kingston SSD. At least, Sanddisk ultra plus could be considered as an alternative, but basically, Crucial and Samsung righteously dominate the market imho. |
Noboru said: Every dual core processor not older than from 2009 + integrated graphics + a good SSD (Crucial MX100/M550/M500 or Samsung 840 Evo/Pro/850 Pro) should suffice your standards. Yep. But there's no need for an SSD if he's just going to do small works, surf the web and watch anime. Unless he wants everything to be faster, I believe that SSD are worth the investment but I advise always having an HDD too. |
| I agree that an SSD is more for enthusiasts, but if OP cares enough about the speed difference, feel free to go for it. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
b1GZZ said: Noboru said: Every dual core processor not older than from 2009 + integrated graphics + a good SSD (Crucial MX100/M550/M500 or Samsung 840 Evo/Pro/850 Pro) should suffice your standards. Yep. But there's no need for an SSD if he's just going to do small works, surf the web and watch anime. Unless he wants everything to be faster, I believe that SSD are worth the investment but I advise always having an HDD too. Exactly because he wants a "fast" office desktop, I'm doing this recommendation. If he had wanted a gaming machine I would have still mentioned the SSD, however, I would have understood if he had wanted to spend his money on a stronger GPU instead of a SSD. And there's no need for a HDD if he's watching his Anime on streams or on physical DVDs/BDs and/or doesn't need much space. Nevertheless, if he can afford it, I also agree with you that going "hybrid" is the way to go. MiniSiets said: I agree that an SSD is more for enthusiasts, but if OP cares enough about the speed difference, feel free to go for it. In the year 2014, SSDs should be already standard from my point of view. Besides, current prices give reasonable enough sizes to work with and it doesn't make sense imho to go only for space if you don't need it. However, unless the OP specifies his space requirements, his current setup (especially HDDs) for re-using and his budget, we can go around in circles and still won't reach a conclusion, so let's hope that OP is going to elaborate more. |
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