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Aug 14, 2014 10:16 PM

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Senjougahara is not a tsundere because she's actually a good character, and therefore impossible to be a tsundere.
Aug 15, 2014 9:48 AM

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my dick = rock solid = good tsundere

dick not hard = bad tsundere
Aug 15, 2014 10:06 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
vongola-undecimo said:


I'll just go with my (the stereotypical defintion),cuz lumping her in with ABOMINATIONS such as Rin Tohsaka would be an insult


Prediction: You will watch Fate/stay night 2014 and love Rin. Unless you read the VN and hated her there, of course.


WHO KNOWS........Maybe she'll blow my mind as far as I'm concerned my expectation for the anme itself os Non-existant

Forgetfulness said:
vongola-undecimo said:


I'll just go with my (the stereotypical defintion),cuz lumping her in with ABOMINATIONS such as Rin Tohsaka would be an insult
Somehow I have a feeling you know basically nothing about Rin's character.


Well to be honest I only did watch a few episodes of FSN and found her annoying.......though i liked her in F/Z
Aug 15, 2014 10:09 AM

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They can't.
You just need to replace them with a kuudere.
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

Aug 15, 2014 11:03 AM
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lmao at all these people saying rin is a good tsundere lmao. she's one of the worst lmao
Aug 15, 2014 11:07 AM
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JD2411 said:
lmao at all these people saying rin is a good tsundere lmao. she's one of the worst lmao
almost everyone who's read the VN likes her way more than Saber, it's just the anime community basing their opinions on DEEN's versions that get the image they do
Aug 15, 2014 11:15 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
JD2411 said:
lmao at all these people saying rin is a good tsundere lmao. she's one of the worst lmao
almost everyone who's read the VN likes her way more than Saber, it's just the anime community basing their opinions on DEEN's versions that get the image they do

i play the vn. rin still shit
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Aug 15, 2014 11:31 AM
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HaXXspetten said:
JD2411 said:
lmao at all these people saying rin is a good tsundere lmao. she's one of the worst lmao
almost everyone who's read the VN likes her way more than Saber, it's just the anime community basing their opinions on DEEN's versions that get the image they do
I've read the VN and she is still very unlikeable. although I don't like any of the characters in F/SN
Aug 15, 2014 11:39 AM

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JD2411 said:
HaXXspetten said:
almost everyone who's read the VN likes her way more than Saber, it's just the anime community basing their opinions on DEEN's versions that get the image they do
I've read the VN and she is still very unlikeable. although I don't like any of the characters in F/SN


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Aug 15, 2014 11:41 AM

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JD is just being tsundere, and a very bad one at that.
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

Aug 15, 2014 11:43 AM
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skyzblue said:
JD is just being tsundere, and a very bad one at that.
I second this notion

also anyone who claims Sakura as best girl should go see a doctor or something =w=

Relevant: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1236567
Aug 15, 2014 11:54 AM
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Short version would be she's the most prevalent in Fate (which is the only route who's gotten some sort of anime tv-series adaptation, albeit a butchered one), but in UBW she's got much less focus and not to mention in HF she's mostly a side character. Also for shipping most people think Rin has much better chemistry with Shirou whereas Saber is better for being just what she is: a fighter.
Aug 15, 2014 12:04 PM

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As much as I hate tsunderes. To back their case, ''doormat'' main characters make them seem worse as most (around 90%) of 'em show no rebuttal after getting violently abused by tsunderes..

50% of the problem goes to the MC as they don't do shit and make tsunderes even more hated.
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Aug 19, 2014 10:07 PM

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Beast666 said:
Tsunderes are good when they have a legit and believable reason to act cold toward the person they like and lose their tsun when whatever that reason is gone/resolved.

Sadly majority of these tsunderes failed horribly in that department and the only thing they deserved from the people they liked is their middle fingers.



i agree with you totally
Aug 19, 2014 11:28 PM

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Chitoge and Taiga, nuff said
Aug 20, 2014 2:43 AM

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Ones that actually have a lot of character development throughout the story.

Vague, but is indeed true for me. If a Tsundere remains the same way the whole time I'd probably get annoyed, like I was/am with Louise from Zero no Tsukaima.
Aug 20, 2014 3:59 AM

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n-anashii said:
Ones that actually have a lot of character development throughout the story.

Vague, but is indeed true for me. If a Tsundere remains the same way the whole time I'd probably get annoyed, like I was/am with Louise from Zero no Tsukaima.

Louise is a prime example of a bad tsundere.
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Aug 20, 2014 5:48 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
n-anashii said:
Ones that actually have a lot of character development throughout the story.

Vague, but is indeed true for me. If a Tsundere remains the same way the whole time I'd probably get annoyed, like I was/am with Louise from Zero no Tsukaima.

Louise is a prime example of a bad tsundere.


Louise is a complete immoral bitch. She's not even a tsundere; just an abusive disgrace.

IMO the only good examples of tsunderes that I can think of are Kurisu from Steins;Gate and Aoba from Cross Game.

Kurisu is more like a realistic tsundere, if there is such a thing. She's not abusive in her quibbles with Okabe. She's also pretty badass in her role in the story. It's been a while, but I remember her exemplifying the role of "strong female character" perfectly.

As for Aoba, she annoyed me a little at first, but she's thankfully never outright abusive either. She tones it down mostly to friendly banter. Her backstory and her dishonesty are also so well-done that it's hard not to like her. She's more about baseball and coming to terms with her feelings than anything.

TLDR a good tsundere should not have "tsundere" be their defining trait.
Aug 20, 2014 10:14 AM

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Asuka Langley Soryu's a great tsundere, my personal favorite.
Aug 20, 2014 10:30 AM

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clare77 said:
Recently I've watched alot of anime with Tsunderes in them,and while I really,really hate the character type,i felt i might as well try looking at it from a different point of view,so i was wondering,what makes a good tsundere? if such a thing exists


There are no good tsunderes, all of them are evil and will suck your soul and your will to watch anime out


Aug 20, 2014 11:36 AM

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simplyloverly said:
FluffyFlesh said:

Louise is a prime example of a bad tsundere.


Louise is a complete immoral bitch. She's not even a tsundere; just an abusive disgrace.

Kurisu is more like a realistic tsundere, if there is such a thing. She's not abusive in her quibbles with Okabe. She's also pretty badass in her role in the story. It's been a while, but I remember her exemplifying the role of "strong female character" perfectly.


110% agreed with both of you.
Aug 20, 2014 3:16 PM

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n-anashii said:
simplyloverly said:


Louise is a complete immoral bitch. She's not even a tsundere; just an abusive disgrace.

Kurisu is more like a realistic tsundere, if there is such a thing. She's not abusive in her quibbles with Okabe. She's also pretty badass in her role in the story. It's been a while, but I remember her exemplifying the role of "strong female character" perfectly.


110% agreed with both of you.

Any tsundere voiced by Rie Kugimiya is by definiton bad, be it Louise, Shana, Yuuhi, Aria or even Taiga. Still, I can tolerate Taiga for some reason, but she is pushing my buttons anyway. On the other hand, perfect type of tsundere IMHO is definitely Makise Kurisu. I really loved her character. Before her, it was Ayano Kannagi from Kaze no Stigma.
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Aug 20, 2014 3:24 PM

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Zeally said:
Tsukishima, Aoba was a pretty good tsundere


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Aug 20, 2014 3:26 PM

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DoctorWasabi said:
Chitoge and Taiga, nuff said


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Aug 20, 2014 5:06 PM

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ninjastarforcex said:
HaXXspetten said:
almost everyone who's read the VN likes her way more than Saber, it's just the anime community basing their opinions on DEEN's versions that get the image they do

i play the vn. rin still shit
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Aug 20, 2014 5:20 PM

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Zergneedsfood said:
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Welp. Time to watch Cross Game. Gotta have my daily dose of tsunderes.

It helps me model my own character. :3


Being on my favourites should have been reason enough sir. But yes more people need to see it. It's a fairly underwatched series despite being in the top 65 (and only 5 years old).
Aug 20, 2014 5:29 PM

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I don't like when they are exactly the same until the last episode and then are forgiven right before the very end, or if they are depressed( like think everyone hates them so they act that way until they become hateful instead of pitiful)

I didn't mind
Tsukasa Ayatsuji

if she is considered one.
Aug 20, 2014 6:11 PM

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A male tsundere. We need more of them.
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Aug 20, 2014 6:48 PM

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Characters like Hitagi Senjougahara and Aika Fuwa make the best tsunderes. Oddly enough, theyre voiced by the same actress.
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I enjoy tsundere when they gradually grow a liking to the MC, not when they hate the MC one episode but like the MC another episode, then go back to hating the MC..
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Aug 21, 2014 5:41 AM
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StrawberryRain said:
A male tsundere. We need more of them.
the few really violent male tsunderes I've seen are even worse than the female equivalents though x.x
Aug 21, 2014 5:59 AM

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Emi from Hataraku Maou-Sama is the only good Tsundere in my book.
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Aug 23, 2014 9:55 PM
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To not exist? Unless it's Misaka. Misaka can exist.
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just for being tsundere are good
Sep 4, 2014 12:52 AM

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There is no such thing as a good tsundere imo..

Tsunderes are only there to steal the spotlight -_-
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Old_Raven said:
Characters like Hitagi Senjougahara and Aika Fuwa make the best tsunderes. Oddly enough, theyre voiced by the same actress.


Hitagi is not a tsundere......
Sep 4, 2014 4:53 AM

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extremely adorable in the way you can't resist the cuteness. also not that annoying, i can't explain it but making a tsundere that bitchy is way to much, she also must have limitations about that. taiga aisaka is the best tsundere
Sep 4, 2014 5:25 AM

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AnarchicSloth said:
To not exist? Unless it's Misaka. Misaka can exist.


This. Fuck tsunderes and not in the literal way.
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Sep 4, 2014 5:27 AM
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If Dereban counts as a Tsundere then i fucking love tsunderes.
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ScazoN said:
If Dereban counts as a Tsundere then i fucking love tsunderes.


Why would her count as one, though?
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clare77 said:
Recently I've watched alot of anime with Tsunderes in them,and while I really,really hate the character type,i felt i might as well try looking at it from a different point of view,so i was wondering,what makes a good tsundere? if such a thing exists


Ask Yomi Isayama and Makise Kurisu.
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ScazoN said:
If Dereban counts as a Tsundere then i fucking love tsunderes.


She isn't.

In order to have a good tsundere, you need a massive amount of character development. Look at Taiga vs. shit tier Louise - Taiga grows up and by the end she isn't "tsundere" towards her friends / love. Louise? Louise will always be a cunt.
Sep 4, 2014 8:11 AM

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Toradora is massively overrated. Taiga is a terrible character, by the way.
Sep 4, 2014 8:12 AM

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Wintovisky said:
Toradora is massive overrated. Taiga is a terrible character, by the way.


ok
Sep 4, 2014 8:12 AM

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Feyfray said:
Wintovisky said:
Toradora is massively overrated. Taiga is a terrible character, by the way.


ok


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Sep 4, 2014 8:18 AM

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What makes a good character period?

Write a character that feels like an actual human being. If they happen to be tsundere fine - but they need to be an actual person. Not just a tsundere. That behaviour should be a product of their character, not the other way around.
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