[Spoilers] So...what exactly is the purpose of Hisoka now?

kikohunter said:
I don't think there's an actual villain as in the "BIG boss" in HxH. It's just a bunch of characters with their own goals and views and we follow them in their adventures and stuff. Hisoka is still pretty powerfull and I doubt we'll ever see Gon go apeshit insane like he did against Pitou or ever reach that level until the end of the series.

OP said:
But now we can safely say Gon would absolutely obliterate Hisoka

bleachjoj said:
Hisoka is not really a villain. Nor has he ever been. He's pretty much an anti-hero.

Rueby said:
Being Illumi's friend with benefits?

Lyrisia said:


Hahahhahahaha that totally killed me there lol

Anyway back to the topic I still don't think Gon or Killua even together can beat Hisoka yet...
And well I haven't thought much about his role from now on...

judals said:
Flailing his dick around is enough for me.













No homo

Rueby said:
Being Illumi's friend with benefits?

Flashoftheback said:


He more like a neutral chaos.

keragamming said:
Hisoka doesn't need brute strength to beat Gon, all he needs to do is use his head and stupid Gon wouldn't even stand a chance. :P

kikohunter said:
I don't think there's an actual villain as in the "BIG boss" in HxH. It's just a bunch of characters with their own goals and views and we follow them in their adventures and stuff. Hisoka is still pretty powerfull and I doubt we'll ever see Gon go apeshit insane like he did against Pitou or ever reach that level until the end of the series.

masochist-san said:

u so funny op

TripleSRank said:
In episode 89, skip to roughly 18 and half minutes in and re-watch Bisky's explanation to Killua. "Power levels" aren't absolute in HxH, which was Killua's main problem for a long time. Even someone who is considerably "weaker" than their opponent could win under the right conditions. At that, the unpredictability of nen abilities, as well as psychological games can all factor into the outcome of a battle.

Conditions and vows are one such way for weaker nen users to stand a chance against stronger users. Since they don't have the capacity to win straight-up, they have to limit themselves to a specific situation in which they have what is needed to defeat an opponent. This covers their skill or power inadequacies.

Kurapika is the best example to date for obvious reasons. I strongly doubt he could kill anyone in the original Phantom Troupe (save, perhaps, Shizuku) using his "normal" power and skill. However, by setting a sufficiently limiting condition and vow on himself, he is able to gain the power needed to subdue even the strongest of them. It should be noted that this ability is not only limited in use- it also has an adverse affect on his health. There seems to be an implication that using vows in particular damages a users body proportionally to the amount of power they gain through the vow. Therefore, abusing vows, even if they come with strict conditions, isn't a wise choice save for the desperate.

Something else to keep in mind is that conditions/vows must be pre-conceived. They cannot be created on a whim.

In Gon's case, he utilized a vow to never use nen again in order to gain the full extent of his future potential power for a single, current use. Not only does this seal his nen permanently; (implication/speculation:) it twists and corrupts his body so badly that, barring what is essentially a miraculous intervention via equivalent exchange, he will die soon. How soon, I do not know, but it's simply too strong a vow for his body to handle. At best, he would be be bedridden for life.

That's not the kind of crap you can pull out of your butt. Taking into account our "miracle", sure, it is theoretically possible that he could do it again. However, there's no way for him to know he would be saved. We're seeing only the beginning of the difficulties Killua needs to go through to save Gon, and I personally doubt he would do it a second time. (Firstly, because he was angry at Gon for doing what he did, even saying that Gon would have to apologize. Secondly, because Bisky told Killua that he would have to leave Gon if he didn't beat Shoot. Killua planned on leaving Gon after Pitou was dealt with, and saving Gon will conclude that. Thirdly, because he wishes to set Alluka free, and the only way to do so is to strip him of his power.) This isn't a free pass being handed to Gon. This is the narrative equivalent of saying, "You get by with this once. Do it again, and it's over."

So, no, Gon is not capable of defeating Hisoka in his present state unless he kills himself in the process, and even then it would only be under extreme circumstances (such as the death of one of the other MCs). Hisoka is and will continue to be a threat for quite awhile even if we take his abilities at face value. Beyond that, it's possible that he may have even more abilities we don't know about.

He's strong. He's intelligent. He's psychotic. He's relevant. Love him or hate him, Hisoka isn't going anywhere.

If Gotoh kills him in the next episode, I may have to stop posting in these subforums.

Rueby said:
Being Illumi's friend with benefits?

The_Mad_Wizard said:


nuff said

ITFujoshi said:


Bwahahahha
That was gold. XD

Hisoka has been one of the reasons why Gon is who he is today, so I expect the Hisoka vs Gon battle to come up sooner or later.

ItsZant said:
But now we can safely say Gon would absolutely obliterate Hisoka if he had the right amount of motivation to do so (Like Kite's death)

fearthebeard85 said:


And what basis do you have for that? Hisoka has yet to once fight seriously. If anything, I'm guessing is true nature when he fights is more akin to when he lost control of his bloodlust during the Hunter Exam. You can't come to conclusions about a character who has yet to display his full potential. Just because we've seen Gon's full potential, which wasn't achieved naturally and most likely now will never be able to be reached by natural means as a result, doesn't mean that we can speak for Hisoka who has a tendency to dumb down his skills to his opponents in order to make the fights more... amusing.

SoulChaos said:
Guys keep in mind that we don't know any back story about Hisoka and we don't know his true goals and powers yet (other then he likes to fight strong people)
He is a playful trickster who loves to add more strong people to his collection :D

If my guess is right he will have an arc revolving around him sooner or later or a sub arc
Im 100% sure he is a fan favorite character so togashi will get to him hopefully and no Gon cant stand a chance against Hisoka obviously

insan3Spectre said:
The prospect of Hisoka's past being revealed is both exciting and worrying for me. On the one hand, it could potentially ruin the sense of mystery and wild card factor that makes him so exciting. On the other hand, it could make him much more fleshed out and could, potentially, help him to replace Meruem as my favorite antagonist.