| thats disgusting. Sick. Absolutely vile. |
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| WTF is wrong with those goddamn idiots? Loss of legs- mocked? Those who made fun of the soldier should be tortured in a torture chamber and dismembered. |
| Funny topic, ironically, due to OP having the possibility to precisely do the same thing described of the youths in the scenario with his 'short-tempered' 'inheritive' trait. Sohei said: Also this,Saying that worse things happens does not excuse this particular behavior though. hikky said: and sadly this. Really. It's a bunch of immature youths insulting a disabled man. Because the insults are so overused in society, we'd expect people to get over it and not take it seriously at the same time as people who compare negative scenarios to more negative scenarios. If nobody pay attention to the insults, it'd die the minute after it's said. But now a big deal is made out of it, and all but encourages for more discriminatory behaviour.Woah, they probably hurt his feelings. Important news. |
| The kids that are laughing were probably on what I can only describe as the group high. When you're hanging out with friends long enough in public, you start to develop this weird feeling. It's hard to explain, but I'm sure that's the only reason they thought it would be cool to laugh at the guy. Still a fucked up thing to do, but just kinda wanted to state that. |
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HarryTram said: The kids that are laughing were probably on what I can only describe as the group high. When you're hanging out with friends long enough in public, you start to develop this weird feeling. It's hard to explain, but I'm sure that's the only reason they thought it would be cool to laugh at the guy. Still a fucked up thing to do, but just kinda wanted to state that. Hmm. True. Even if you're doing something wrong -- and you're aware of it -- you'd continue to do wrong as long as your friends around you go along with you. It's like the influence of peers overrides the conscience. |
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| Someone got their feelings hurt? Someone report this to the mass media at once! A crime this vile must not go unpunished! |
Tachii said: Funny topic, ironically, due to OP having the possibility to precisely do the same thing described of the youths in the scenario with his 'short-tempered' 'inheritive' trait. And he is not the only one if you see some other posts. Lot's of people with the smartass behavior of "That's disgusting let's take them, torture them, rape them, pull their legs off" and other disgusting wishes. Am quite certain that in different times this kind of people will be the ones making those crowds who celebrated around executions where people got burn alive or had there heads cut off. orbitzz said: I get why you say "why THIS man?" but the thing is, where do you draw the line? it's a news story, it's supposed to get your attention. for the same exact reason that you hear about the girl who was surfing in the wrong place at the wrong time and managed to get her leg chewed off by a shark, this man was the one who was chosen - to sell a story. does anyone think that reporters go around going "hmmm, you only lost 1 leg, your case isn't bad enough, come back when you are completely limbless" ? anyways, getting back to the point, the rationale that you should be fair and only publish stories about the worst atrocities of the world before you get back to the individuals is rather absurd in my opinion. obviously, stories about the groups being affected as a whole are being published, but it's easier to distance yourself when you forget about the individuals themselves, since they remain faceless to you. another thing is that the person was probably chosen to appear in a story for an american newspaper, not an afghani one. why don't we hear about the afghani locals who step in landmines and lose limbs? frankly because we can't relate to him or her as much as we can relate to a fellow american. the news is SUPPOSED to be impartial, but we all know that there is only so much impartiality that can occur when their main job is to sell newspapers, since they are a business. If this was about a killing or a robbery i would understand your argument. Even when people get killed we say "So what, it happens everyday" But your argument is correct, the reporters will report it even if thousands get killed in another country. But an insult? No one reports insults? Insults are not news. It's too much of an everyday thing to be news. The reason they made an article about it and probably that the OP made the thread was because the guy was a soldier. And this doesn't look good to me. So if the guy lost his legs in a traffic accident no one cares if people make fun of him but if he lost them in a war everybody becomes sensitive? It looks like the whole point wasn't to show how bad it is to make fun someone with a problem but just to make those soldiers look heroic or something like that. It's like an article payed by the government or made by a nationalist reporter. Gunther75 said: Most of the jobs in the military don't even involve fighting. So this is extremely untrue. If you want real mercenaries, look at Blackwater, which is full of people dishonorably discharged from service. You also seem quite full of angst, I'm not sure why. I don't know if you think mercenaries have to be scumbags but you know they don't. Anyone who is doing it like a job so he can earn money it's a mercenary. They usually are people who simply need money. The US army specifically targets young boys in poor neighborhoods. Organizations like Blackwater who don't have the capacity of the US army to train new people usually prefer people with some experience and that's why they take lot's of people that were in the army in the past. Logically they will take lot's of dishonorably discharged since ex-military people who wish to continue doing the job are not found everywhere. |
Rub_My_Fanny said: What's the problem? Isn't there freedom of speech in this country? We can say whatever we want no matter how hateful. Rights Rights Rights. Bah. Sadly, many Americans forget the other important "R' word: Responsiblities. Freedom of speech is one thing; but y'cannot ignore the responsibity to the effects of poor speech. For example. Look at Rush Limbaugh. He had to drop out of the bid for partial ownership to the Rams. Too bad for him, his spoken words from previous years, especially criticism on black NFL players, came back and bit him. After dropping out of the bid, he goes off and dispenses blame on others. In this case, he has to take responsiblity (and suck it up) for his abuse of his speech rights. Rub_My_Fanny said: If he didn't want to get his leg blown off he should have done well in school and gone to a nice college. While that's a common reason to join the military - it certainly isn't the only reason to do so. |
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KyuuA4 said: Rights Rights Rights. Bah. Sadly, many Americans forget the other important "R' word: Responsiblities. Because if I remember correctly, responsibilities isn't printed over and over in our constitution. I'm gonna have to remember this next time I'm trying to figure out why my peers seem to think they are entitled to be able to say/do anything they want whenever they want, no matter what the case, just because we're American. I love the country, but we're getting pretty out of hand with things like this happening over and over and over. |
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| if someone at my school lost their limbs if they weren't "trendy or popular" and "gangsta" they would proably get abused >_< |
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Rub_My_Fanny said: What's the problem? Isn't there freedom of speech in this country? We can say whatever we want no matter how hateful. Further more this guy signed up for the army. He knew of the dangers that awaited him. If he didn't want to get his leg blown off he should have done well in school and gone to a nice college. Yeah, I'm sure freedom of speech was intended for making fun of soldiers who have lost their legs. :/ |
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Monad said: A mercenary is a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army, or otherwise not under the direct chain of command of a national army.Anyone who is doing it like a job so he can earn money it's a mercenary. No soldier serving under his country's military by normal means can be a mercenary by definition. |
| Some people's stupidy and hypocrisy never ceases to amuse me. AMUSE ME MOAR PEOPLE! Rub_My_Fanny said: Freedom of speech was intended for everything. Restricting hate is worse then hate it's self. Besides it's his fault his leg got blown up, if he wanted to waste him life in the army, he should have at least not attempted to play rl minesweeper. Are you really that dumb, or just pretending to be? You should try to learn a bit in a school pal. You would discover that in most democratical countries "freedom of speech" doesn't include "hate speaches" to which mocking can be related. Everyday you learn something new, yeah? You say that "Restricting hate is worse then hate it's self". Hey now, that's just your opinion, which in turn doesn't worth a jack. Don't pull it off as a fact. And yeah, it's totaly his fault for losing the limbs. He got blown by himself. /sarc If you get into traffic addicent, and you lose your limbs, I'd love to laugh at you. After all is your fault for getting on bike/car/bus. Besides even IF it's his own fault partially, how exactly does that approves of his mockery? My "sense detector" can't find any in you mate. rebekah said: if someone at my school lost their limbs if they weren't "trendy or popular" and "gangsta" they would proably get abused >_< And I though my school was bad... I start to like my ex school. Too late though. |
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| I would seriously go and beat those guys up if they ever did something like that to anyone close to me. Fucking nothing would have stopped me. |
Rub_My_Fanny said: Such an overused statement. Technically, in every country, there's a freedom of speech. Nobody's physically preventing you from uttering phrases, but like all countries, no exceptions, there's consequences for that particular freedom. The current 'freedom of speech' in North America is more or less, overly simplified, "you have the freedom to speak, but whether or not we listen to you is not up for you to decide, whether or not someone would say something against you is also not for you to decide, and anything you say could be used against you." Similar to what police say when they arrest someone.What's the problem? Isn't there freedom of speech in this country? We can say whatever we want no matter how hateful. Further more this guy signed up for the army. He knew of the dangers that awaited him. If he didn't want to get his leg blown off he should have done well in school and gone to a nice college. I'd say North America, and probably many other developed countries, just have a wider tolerance for what is acceptable or not, but like all societies, there's a line where a citizen shouldn't cross. One has total freedom to what they have to say, but one does not have total freedom to choose what consequence they may have to face for saying it. Total freedom is as absurd as total constraint in our current state of society. |
Rub_My_Fanny said: samsnapshot said: Rub_My_Fanny said: What's the problem? Isn't there freedom of speech in this country? We can say whatever we want no matter how hateful. Further more this guy signed up for the army. He knew of the dangers that awaited him. If he didn't want to get his leg blown off he should have done well in school and gone to a nice college. Yeah, I'm sure freedom of speech was intended for making fun of soldiers who have lost their legs. :/ Freedom of speech was intended for everything. Restricting hate is worse then hate it's self. Besides it's his fault his leg got blown up, if he wanted to waste him life in the army, he should have at least not attempted to play rl minesweeper. Oh, so just because we have freedom of speech we can say whatever we'd like, no matter the hurt or pain of others? There's things like respect and manners that people have to take account of. These were just a bunch of dumbass brats that have no respect for the people who serve for our country who risk their lives. Oh, and you're real classy saying it's HIS fault for getting his legs blown off. He totally was asking for it. And people wonder why I say our world is fucked up... |
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| Its stuff like that that made me hate humanity. Stupid humans, i'm going to live amongst the fishes and the mermaids and what not. *jumps into ocean* |
bleachigo10 said: Through the theory of evolution, I want to move all of our earths food supply TO THE OCEAN. That way, we will learn to adapt to the ocean to get our food. Thus become mermaids.Its stuff like that that made me hate humanity. Stupid humans, i'm going to live amongst the fishes and the mermaids and what not. *jumps into ocean* |
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samsnapshot said: It's pretty much balanced in our current state of affairs though. We have plenty of people who believe in true love, we have plenty of people who genuinely believe they're doing something good for humanity, we have plenty of people who would help someone else when they're in need, and the list continues, so it's not really that bad. To generalize the world as a whole just based on a few negative events is a pretty narrow view of things. Though no doubt many people would probably agree with your typical sentimentality about the world. Nonetheless, certain aspects may be coined with derogatory, while plenty of others balance it out. But we don't focus on the 'good' things, do we? Only extraordinary good things. While even the most smallest 'bad' things makes the world intolerable.And people wonder why I say our world is fucked up... |
HarryTram said: I like the way you think.bleachigo10 said: Through the theory of evolution, I want to move all of our earths food supply TO THE OCEAN. That way, we will learn to adapt to the ocean to get our food. Thus become mermaids.Its stuff like that that made me hate humanity. Stupid humans, i'm going to live amongst the fishes and the mermaids and what not. *jumps into ocean* |
HarryTram said: bleachigo10 said: Through the theory of evolution, I want to move all of our earths food supply TO THE OCEAN. That way, we will learn to adapt to the ocean to get our food. Thus become mermaids.Its stuff like that that made me hate humanity. Stupid humans, i'm going to live amongst the fishes and the mermaids and what not. *jumps into ocean* drastic developments like that take many generations to fully develop though. If you moved all of it immediately, mostly all of us would die. But it would be pretty bitchin' to chill with aquaman and all his sea bitches. |
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FAGBUTT said: Stop squandering my dreams. Another aspect of the theory of evolution is drastic environment changes. If Humans are on the brink of extinction, then we will grow subtle mutations and evolutionary changes to adapt and GET THAT FOOD.HarryTram said: bleachigo10 said: Through the theory of evolution, I want to move all of our earths food supply TO THE OCEAN. That way, we will learn to adapt to the ocean to get our food. Thus become mermaids.Its stuff like that that made me hate humanity. Stupid humans, i'm going to live amongst the fishes and the mermaids and what not. *jumps into ocean* drastic developments like that take many generations to fully develop though. If you moved all of it immediately, mostly all of us would die. But it would be pretty bitchin' to chill with aquaman and all his sea bitches. |
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Saitoe said: worse shit than that goes on in the world all the time Things like this make me want to go and live in the forrest. It does get depressing after a while and Saitoe's right, that is not even the tip of the iceberg as far as human cruelty goes. Some of the comments above have the same affect although I am sure some just say it to shock and others because they have nothing better to do with themselves than start a debate. Are you telling me that you would rather taunt someone who is hurt than help them? Is that really your immediate reaction to those physically weaker than you? To inflict more pain on them? Really, I feel sorry for you. While there may be freedom of speech the constitution is only a piece of paper the same as the bible and much like the bible it can be interpreted in many different ways that those who created it did not intend. The fact remains that hate only breeds hate and I can't bring myself to believe that anyone would really want to live with more anger and sadness that is already out there in the world. |
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| Well, if you want to live in a forest, make sure nobody finds you or you might get charged for not owning the property while illegally living on it. As for hate only breeds hate, it isn't totally true even though it's a popular saying. Hate breeds acceptance, enlightenment, and knowledge too since some people is bound to get tired of the circle and do something about it. For example you could probably fit in this case, if your values is strong enough to be put into action. Nonetheless, having the values itself means hate had bred a sort of understanding to oneself. |
Killy_Zouichi said: a group of "boisterous" youths. Chavs. The blight of Britain. Evil incarnated. I hate the lot of them. |
| King James Version, Second Kings 2:23-24 23: And he [Elisha] went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up that way, there came forth little children of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; Go up, thou bald head. 24: And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood and tare forty and two children of them. |
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Rub_My_Fanny said: re you telling me that you would rather taunt someone who is hurt than help them? What? How are you suppose to help this guy? Give him one of your legs? He's fine he just lost a leg, continuously reminding him of that isn't going to help him. What? It's not even cruel all they are doing is talking about him it's not like they dragged him out of his wheel chair kicked the shit out of him and stole his wheel chair. They just said a couple of words. You need to relax, stick and stones bro. I just personally don't understand why people have to be cruel in any measure for no apparent reason. What does either party possibly have to gain? The only reason would be for those kids entertainment. Which in itself is serious cause for concern. Gradually peoples nature is changing and I dont think it's for the better. |
Rub_My_Fanny said: brb, I'm going to go laugh at some homeless people. Maybe that will encourage passer-bys on the street to work harder at their jobs!These kid's could even be considered as doing a good thing by preventing more people from joining the army, which leads to leg loss and humilation. Or maybe I'll just look like an asshole. But hey, that's cool too right? |
| wow...this is really sad the world's so messed up now, i wouldnt be surprised if the creator decides to start anew in 2012 lol |
HarshReality said: I thought somebody with the username "HarshReality" would say something more depressing about this lolwow...this is really sad the world's so messed up now, i wouldnt be surprised if the creator decides to start anew in 2012 lol |
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Pineappledishes said: I would seriously go and beat those guys up if they ever did something like that to anyone close to me. Fucking nothing would have stopped me. Except probably the people you were trying to beat up. People respond much too easily to provocation. |
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