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Aug 4, 2014 8:49 AM

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It's getting better by each episode, definitely loving this development. I wonder what's going to happen with all these suspicious eyes looking at Tatsuya.

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Aug 4, 2014 9:20 AM

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ThreePointer said:
Shiba vaporizes a group of people with little to no emotions one night then dances with his harem another night. Yeah. Thats bad ass. And this arc is finally finished with a bunch of foreshadowing I probably missed because of the info dump. Oh yeah, the shipping between the siblings was unnecessarily strong during the credit scene.


No matter how strong the shipping is for the siblings Honoka, you are the best girl.


2nd best girl to me,Miyuki's still 1st,but only a little :)

Hoping for an OVA for vol 5 for that Honoka scene.
 
Aug 4, 2014 10:50 AM

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darkreaperix said:
ThreePointer said:
Shiba vaporizes a group of people with little to no emotions one night then dances with his harem another night. Yeah. Thats bad ass. And this arc is finally finished with a bunch of foreshadowing I probably missed because of the info dump. Oh yeah, the shipping between the siblings was unnecessarily strong during the credit scene.


No matter how strong the shipping is for the siblings Honoka, you are the best girl.


2nd best girl to me,Miyuki's still 1st,but only a little :)

Hoping for an OVA for vol 5 for that Honoka scene.

But Honoka also isn't tsundere. :P
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 4, 2014 10:58 AM

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Aug 4, 2014 1:40 PM

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But Honoka also isn't tsundere. :P


You are the one that are into tsunderes,not me,or are you trolling me again? :p
 
Aug 4, 2014 3:07 PM

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darkreaperix said:
You are the one that are into tsunderes,not me,or are you trolling me again? :p

Nope, you just said, you like Miyuki because she is not tsundere. Honoka also is not tsundere, so why is she second and not first? :P
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 4, 2014 5:39 PM
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I do not think there are any tsundere females in this series though.
I think Hattori is a tsundere.
 
Aug 4, 2014 7:49 PM

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I do not think there are any tsundere females in this series though.
I think Hattori is a tsundere.


I'll agree with that assessment. It's strange, I love this anime despite no tsundere female. I wonder why I still like it?

Oh, right, it has little sisters. :P
 
Aug 4, 2014 8:25 PM
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its good that they fastened the arc 2.............. but the animators just SPED it up they skipped most ALL of the interesting conversations happened in those scenes!!!! man they even jumbled the fact that no head dragons should be packing rather than sitting their asses when tatsuya attacked them!! T_T man.. poor ... this episode made me disappointed..... the episodes before i mean all where better but this single episode is a butchery to the whole scenes in the novel T_T

i am so so so so sad in this episode 18
 
Aug 4, 2014 9:35 PM

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This show is so boring, and I can't get invested in anything that's going on... I've stuck it out this far, so I'll finish it, but I'll probably be giving it a 2/10. By 18 episodes, I would have expected *something* interesting to have happened by now.
 
Aug 5, 2014 1:06 AM

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Flashoftheback said:
jakkubus said:

You wont miss anything important, if you skip first two arcs.


He interested on it.

Isn't people claimed what so good about Mahouka was all those info-dump which many of that are in Vol 1 & 2. That's why i said the most fun choice.


Thanks for both your help. All LN I have read I usually start from where the show leaves off from do to the fact that I already know what's going on. I'll most likely start on volume 5 and go from there. I appreciate the help of both of you.
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Aug 5, 2014 2:09 AM
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Candyman5OS said:
Flashoftheback said:


He interested on it.

Isn't people claimed what so good about Mahouka was all those info-dump which many of that are in Vol 1 & 2. That's why i said the most fun choice.


Thanks for both your help. All LN I have read I usually start from where the show leaves off from do to the fact that I already know what's going on. I'll most likely start on volume 5 and go from there. I appreciate the help of both of you.


Vol5 are side stories. There are only 2 important chaps, prez election and the vacation. Then you can jump to vol6, the beginning of Yokohama arc.

As a LN reader, I strongly recommend you to read from vol1. I started the vol 1 after watching first arc in manga. It gives you a solid knowledge of the Mahouka-verse
 
Aug 5, 2014 3:21 AM

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rladls717 said:
I do not think there are any tsundere females in this series though.
I think Hattori is a tsundere.

Will he be added to Tatsuya's harem?

shindayuki said:
its good that they fastened the arc 2.............. but the animators just SPED it up they skipped most ALL of the interesting conversations happened in those scenes!!!! man they even jumbled the fact that no head dragons should be packing rather than sitting their asses when tatsuya attacked them!! T_T man.. poor ... this episode made me disappointed..... the episodes before i mean all where better but this single episode is a butchery to the whole scenes in the novel T_T

i am so so so so sad in this episode 18

Well, IMO they wasted too much time on it. They should just cut out about 1/3 of what they animated.
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 5, 2014 6:12 AM

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"How about Saegusa?"

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Aug 5, 2014 10:06 AM

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"How about Saegusa?"

WITH PLEASURE
YES.

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Oh and please be engaged to Mayumi.
It will make this series better.
Ahh, I'd love to see that as well. Though I wouldn't mind Honoka either haha.

And it was nice to see that dance scene with everybody getting some time with Tatsuya. Speaking of which, he was looking legit as fuck just demolishing those guys.
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:06 AM

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He has to atone for his sins

What sins?
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:16 AM

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DmonHiro said:
wrenchbread said:
He has to atone for his sins

What sins?


If you have to ask, you'll never know.
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:21 AM

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wrenchbread said:
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Then why bring it up?
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:34 AM

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DmonHiro said:
Then why bring it up?


こっちのセリフだよ。Why are you bringing it up?
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:47 AM

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wrenchbread said:
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Then why bring it up?


こっちのセリフだよ。Why are you bringing it up?


You're derailing the thread
 
Aug 5, 2014 11:52 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
wrenchbread said:


こっちのセリフだよ。Why are you bringing it up?


You're derailing the thread

Well, it rather looks like DmonHiro is derailing thread.
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 5, 2014 12:05 PM

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jakkubus said:
Darklight0303 said:


You're derailing the thread

Well, it rather looks like DmonHiro is derailing thread.


He could have opted not to reply
 
Aug 5, 2014 12:10 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
jakkubus said:

Well, it rather looks like DmonHiro is derailing thread.


He could have opted not to reply

You too...
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 5, 2014 1:27 PM

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Back to the thread :p

Tatsuya is a monster: "You brought my wrath upon yourselves"

RUN!!! Q_Q
 
Aug 5, 2014 2:26 PM
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That was actually great for once.

Best ep thus far no doubt

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Aug 5, 2014 2:45 PM

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Back to the thread :p

Tatsuya is a monster: "You brought my wrath upon yourselves"

RUN!!! Q_Q


What's scary is that isn't even his full wrath
 
Aug 5, 2014 10:11 PM

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what a shitty ep lmao

more info dump, explaining how tatsuya is basically god and OP as fuk, and finally tatsuya enjoying some time with his harem.. 10/10 would def watch again
 
Aug 5, 2014 10:34 PM

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I think there should be a Bechdel-Tatsuya test** for this series. Basically, an episode passes the test if there is at least one scene where at least two characters (neither of which are Tatsuya) do not talk about or mention Tatsuya in any capacity.

It'd be interesting to see how many and which episodes come out unscathed.

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1. It has to have at least two non-Tatsuya characters in it,
2. who talk to each other,
3. about something besides Tatsuya.
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Aug 6, 2014 12:24 AM

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I don't mind the harem but Tatsuya's so bad-fucking-ass that I don't care about it anymore. Just don't let Ichijou be Tatsuya's friend.. dammit or he'll really be like Suzaku. Fuck Suzaku
 
Aug 6, 2014 12:40 AM

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Shall we dance?
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 6, 2014 10:20 AM

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wrenchbread said:
I think there should be a Bechdel-Tatsuya test** for this series. Basically, an episode passes the test if there is at least one scene where at least two characters (neither of which are Tatsuya) do not talk about or mention Tatsuya in any capacity.

It'd be interesting to see how many and which episodes come out unscathed.

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1. It has to have at least two non-Tatsuya characters in it,
2. who talk to each other,
3. about something besides Tatsuya.


The original test was intended to apply to stories as a whole, as far as I am aware.

Modified to be solely about the relation to the main character, I'm pretty sure Mahouka as a whole passes it already, but that doesn't change the fact that Tatsuya is a black hole of a character at times. Likewise I am certain that I could write a short story without a black hole character that fails this test with regards to, say, the story's main villain.

The change you've suggested applies it episode by episode, which raises several questions:
1. Why should anyone care if a given episode fails it? I am almost certain that shows without characters as all-encompassing as Tatsuya would fail this test for some episodes.
2. How many times should the test 'fail' for the story as a whole to 'fail?'
3. Why is it valid to conclude that "X episodes failing this test" actually indicates that Tatsuya is a black hole character, as opposed to basing this on the general way the story presents him?

The problem of whether the test measures anything worth measuring still remains. I would call Tatsuya a black hole character no matter how many episodes pass or fail this modified test.

In short I do not believe the Bechdel test provides an accurate measure of what it is supposed to measure, and I am not convinced modifying the test in the way you describe changes this.

I apologize if any of this sounds rude or overly dismissive but I do not like "mary sue calculators" (which seems to be what you have turned this test into) and similar things (such as the Bechdel test in its original form). It is my opinion that they encourage people to find an easy answer without thinking about whether the answer they're getting is actually an answer to the question they're asking, and to unthinkingly accept the opinion of somebody else as their own.
 
Aug 6, 2014 10:57 AM
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That dancing CGI was probably the worst iv'e ever seen. Absolute trash
 
Aug 6, 2014 11:56 AM

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Holy shit, dude, lighten up. I was just making a joke since this episode was hilarious with how everyone was talking about Tatsuya at numerous occasions when he was offscreen. Retroactively applying the Bechdel-Tatsuya test would be no different humor-wise from that drinking game thread or the onii-sama count.
 
Aug 6, 2014 3:03 PM

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Tatsuya is ruthless when Miyuki is brought into danger
He's getting more and more attention from the other factions

The balroom dances felt a lot like the scene from Final Fantasy VIII with the English background song and all

An excellent arc overall
 
Aug 6, 2014 4:15 PM

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Jûmonji x Tatsuya OTP confirmed.

The saving grace of an otherwise cancerous episode.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Aug 6, 2014 4:20 PM

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Jûmonji x Tatsuya OTP confirmed.

The saving grace of an otherwise cancerous episode.
Really? I thought people would be more interested in MasakiXTatsuya.
 
Aug 6, 2014 4:25 PM

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Botato said:
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Jûmonji x Tatsuya OTP confirmed.

The saving grace of an otherwise cancerous episode.
Really? I thought people would be more interested in MasakiXTatsuya.

Why? Juumonji proposed to Tatsuya in a garden full of roses. He is romantic.
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
Aug 6, 2014 4:28 PM

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jakkubus said:
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Really? I thought people would be more interested in MasakiXTatsuya.

Why? Juumonji proposed to Tatsuya in a garden full of roses. He is romantic.
The episode just had this "possible bromance" vibe between those too.
 
Aug 6, 2014 4:34 PM

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Why? Juumonji proposed to Tatsuya in a garden full of roses. He is romantic.
The episode just had this "possible bromance" vibe between those too.


And you can't deny how sexy *naked* Juumonji in Tatsuya's eyes that he obeys his command. Both are a great pair.
 
Aug 6, 2014 8:04 PM

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Slaughter of no head dragon in the beggining
Tatsuya so badass, kill from far away and without leaving the trail of murder O_O

The dance scene lol, Miyuki when dancing with Masaki And Tatsuya dancing with girls XD

finally end of the arc
Yokohama Disturbance can't wait to see it :)

 
Aug 7, 2014 8:24 AM

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I wonder if anyone else noticed the horrible animation at the dance, It made me laugh kinda harsh xD. The bad ass tatsuya mode was pretty cool too see.
 
Aug 7, 2014 10:58 AM

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This episode would have been so much better IF I ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING ON. This anime has so much useless info dump, but nothing important is ever really explained -.-

But no hate -- Still a good episode


 
Aug 7, 2014 12:24 PM

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man this was a boring competition
 
Aug 7, 2014 2:40 PM

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Picked up an episode from this series after a long drop - hell, Juumonji or Ichijou are so much more interesting than the MCs. I wish for the upteenth time that this series had been about conflicts of clan-oriented magical prodigies with normal set of emotions, not an OP incestual pair of Sues.
 
Aug 7, 2014 2:43 PM

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Lol that CG at the dance was terrible.

This arc was pretty boring, but it had its few moments.

The only good things about this anime is the visuals and ED 2, but the LN is rated fairly high, so i'm guessing MADHOUSE fucked this one up,doesn't seem like them, but oh well, no one is perfect.
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Aug 7, 2014 5:08 PM
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no one commented on how weird jumonji's face is in some of the scenes? during the final match and when he's lifting the victory flag it looks like he aged like 30 years
 
Aug 7, 2014 5:13 PM

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no one commented on how weird jumonji's face is in some of the scenes? during the final match and when he's lifting the victory flag it looks like he aged like 30 years

Juumonji in fact is 30 years old, but he is faking his age to go to hightschool.
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
 
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jakkubus said:
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no one commented on how weird jumonji's face is in some of the scenes? during the final match and when he's lifting the victory flag it looks like he aged like 30 years

Juumonji in fact is 30 years old, but he is faking his age to go to hightschool.
Why he did that?? To seduce Tatsuya??
 
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Flashoftheback said:
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Juumonji in fact is 30 years old, but he is faking his age to go to hightschool.
Why he did that?? To seduce Tatsuya??

Love makes people go crazy, poor jumonji-chan :(
 
Aug 8, 2014 1:29 AM

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The brother is so boss. The sister is so pretty. Hope their relationship deepens even more.
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