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Aug 2, 2014 8:23 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Slaine's mecha looks cool I guess?

Looks like the Martian are making their moves again. I wanted to see Slaine in combat though. The OST was kinda funny in this episode. I give the Earthlings some credit this episode though. They are doing pretty damn good. Welp, war is declared so I expect some mass destruction again soon.

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Aug 2, 2014 8:26 AM

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Wow so Slaine knows the princess 5 yrs ago. Dat kiss (well he was pretty much in danger.)

Man is that bastard again from the previous episode. He's not going to give up. Guess Slaine sneaks up and told the emperor about the truth of princess.

OMG Inaho just sent that poor bastard down the water XD.

Wonder what's bothering Marito about the dog tags, probably 15 yrs ago of something.

Well so much for the emperor to trust Slaine about the Princess, instead the war continues. Saazbaum just ruined the moment at the end. Cruhteo seems like he is connected to the terrorist, but I might be wrong for this.
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Aug 2, 2014 9:33 AM

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Magnetic (?) armor anti plasma. Ultra high temperature plasma meets cold water = boom. That's what I can tell when watching raw. Inaho is so smart lol. And he smiles. :D
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Aug 2, 2014 10:32 AM

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Awesome episode, I really enjoyed the glimpse into the past at the beginning tooo....Dat kiss tho XP

Inaho is just so freaking awesome....It's not that he's like, Kirito OP in regards to strength, but he just uses his brain....Man that kid is just amazing

I was hoping that maybe the King of Mars would of seen through the brigade of the Orbital Knights but I guess it was too good to be true...Personally I'm disappointed in the fact that he didn't believe Slaine =/

Slain looks like he's fucked now though....I wonder how he's going to make it out of this one...And please give him a mech!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Great episode again. Glad we got to see how Slaine arrived at Mars and his meeting with Asseylum.

Too bad that Slaine wasn't able to call off the war. Looks like the emperor is in the hands of the Orbital Knights' counts. I wonder what will happen to him now though, since Saazbaum has discovered his true intentions. I hope he gets deployed to battle before something bad happens to him.

Inaho saved the day again. Vlad was in for a round 2. Although there were some sacrifices again, this time he is out for good. The reactive armour scene was awesome. I like how he can find a weakness in every Martian Kataphrakt he encounters. This time was the high thermal output of Vlad's blades. OST was great as usual.
 
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Aug 2, 2014 10:39 AM

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Inaho does it again. I knew someone was listening to the Slaine and the Emperor's conversation. I guess Slaine's plea to stop the war didn't work. Can't wait for the next episode.
 
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Yet another anime with a great MC Inaho, which unfortunately will have a girl interested in him, however as always without heating other character has character and personality, which goes with these Japanese.
Everything indicates that Inaho not get any girl interested in him.
 
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Inaho is the best. Using his brains to defeat his enemies. The fact that he's using a regular mecha instead of a overpowered one makes this anime even better.

So far Inaho has defeated 2 Marks Knights while everyone else has been killed by them
 
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Aug 2, 2014 10:42 AM
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Slaine spoke to Emporer knew that wasn't to work. They all have there mind set on war. I bet hes going to feel terrible when he finds out that Asseylum is really alive for himself. Inaho own the day. Lt Marito seems to hold some demons that he couldn't even pilot.
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:44 AM

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Dat loli Asseylum <3<3

What a way to save someone...those were some intense "kisses" :3

So Slaine has been there for 5 years? I really thought he'd be around the same age as Asseylum but seems he's quite a bit older.

I was wondering how come there were no guards for the king with how easily Slaine got there but seems it was on purpose. No wonder the king's reaction was lackluster, he doesn't even believe him <_<

That was a short "On-hold" XD

Inaho is just tooo BA right now :O This kid is BOSS ^^
 
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Dat loli Asseylum <3<3

What a way to save someone...those were some intense "kisses" :3

So Slaine has been there for 5 years? I really thought he'd be around the same age as Asseylum but seems he's quite a bit older.


He's a year older.
 
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Slaine did what he could.Damn that Count Saazbaum.

Inaho outwitting Sir Vlad. Not much of surprise there.
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:45 AM

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I'm really impressed with Inaho skills, he seems incredibly smart for just a teenager. It's not looking good for Slaine at all.
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:51 AM

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Barion-Zara said:
Dat loli Asseylum <3<3

What a way to save someone...those were some intense "kisses" :3

So Slaine has been there for 5 years? I really thought he'd be around the same age as Asseylum but seems he's quite a bit older.

Kawaiii :)

He's a year older.
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:52 AM

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That was a pretty awesome battle. I definitely prefer that kind of badassery over winning just because there's some borderline magical sugar coated mecha in hands of lame kid.
Ii tenki desu ne...
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:53 AM

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Inaho once again using his unbelievable war tactics that he's a massed from years of combat to beat an exceptionally tough martian.


You can guess by the sentence above I was being sarcastic. It's just another poorly developed main character who wins against the odds for no reason. I mean, the plan itself was simple, yet all the people with actual war knowledge couldn't think of that. The way inaho went on it was like he might as well be in charge.

Slaines the only character keeping this series alive

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I think I figured out how they'll get to the emperor. Somehow the gang will get the princess to the communications room on one of the castles and bring her to the emperor himself. That would stop the war instantly but it's gonna be a long and hard road to get there, that's for sure.
 
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Nice seeing the first meeting of Slaine and Asseylum. That CPR kiss though! :3

His Majesty is just an old fool. I regret thinking that he'd be a wise one and would perceive through all the commotions. Tsk. Tsk..

Trillram's death is being investigated now and with Slaine's admirable boldness in speaking the truth definitely makes him the prime suspect. Some big troubles await him soon. :O

Second round of Inaho vs. Vald was awesome. His calmness while engaged in battle is awesome. Loved his tactical way of owning Vald almost effortlessly. Great victory!

Amazing episode. I sense death flag for Lt. Marito though. I hope he doesn't die. :O
 
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is always so nobody likes big mc's Inaho.
Prefer mediocre characters like Slaine, who has own opinion, without character and sent by others.
I bet Slaine mediocre finishes with the princess and the great MC Inaho end alone is always so mediocre woman prefers guys.
I honestly do not know what you guys give so much credit to this Slaine that is just a mediocre character
 
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Good ep. Though that was a short flashback on Slaine and how he met the princess. I kinda wanted more. Oh well. I wasn't expecting that guy to come back for revenge so fast. Man they repair machines pretty quickly. Clever way to take out his machine also. Though the captain got me curious he is a little too smart for an average student. I hope they are going to somewhere with that. Wow he didn't even trust Slaine at all and war is of course back. Come on Slaine it seems the best option is to take out all the Knights now.

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they changed the ED once again :( i loved the ep 4 ED
 
Aug 2, 2014 10:58 AM
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Antanaru said:
That was a pretty awesome battle. I definitely prefer that kind of badassery over winning just because there's some borderline magical sugar coated mecha in hands of lame kid.

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jdbe said:
Inaho once again using his unbelievable war tactics that he's a massed from years of combat to beat an exceptionally tough martian.


You can guess by the sentence above I was being sarcastic. It's just another poorly developed main character who wins against the odds for no reason. I mean, the plan itself was simple, yet all the people with actual war knowledge couldn't think of that. The way inaho went on it was like he might as well be in charge.

If he doesn't have any backstory, I agree with what you say. But this is just ep 5. I'm still hoping for the revelation of his past.
And anyone thinks that the emperor and that Knight is planning something? I mean Cruhteo couldn't do anything. But after hearing Slain and that knight, the emperor immediately decides to resume the war. @@
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That's kiss at the beginning was a wow.

Slaine had been trapped there for five years.

The Martian emperor decide to attack the Earth
 
Aug 2, 2014 11:03 AM

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Good ep. Though that was a short flashback on Slaine and how he met the princess. I kinda wanted more. Oh well. I wasn't expecting that guy to come back for revenge so fast. Man they repair machines pretty quickly. Clever way to take out his machine also. Though the captain got me curious he is a little too smart for an average student. I hope they are going to somewhere with that. Wow he didn't even trust Slaine at all and war is of course back. Come on Slaine it seems the best option is to take out all the Knights now.


Volume 2 special edition will have a manga with Slaine's past, iirc.
 
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So... I actually have more to say this time around.

So, the Emperor guy actually seems "NOT" 100% evil. That's cool. It's a shame the rest of the Vers Empire are still a bunch of assholes who have absolutely no intention of giving peace even a remote chance despite the fact the only reason they want to kill them is because they just think they are better (Ooo, such a good reason to go to war).

I am glad Slaine was smart about it all though, he kept secret from others, he went straight to the emperor to give his 2 cents.

But of course. PEACE!? SENSE!? WHAT'S THAT!? NO BLOOD OR CARNAGE!? WELL WE CANNOT HAVE THAT!!

It's a shame because I was looking forward to the show actually straying from the average as hell plot and including a civil war within the Vers Empire, but nope, they completely wrote that off now.

The action sequence was..... Odd as usual... Again there wasn't actually all that much movement (New song though, so that's cool. Shame it was followed up by a repeated song again though).

The cannons fire at the enemy at such close range and it somehow misses (This is a nitpick not an actual hit against the show)

The allies shoot at the enemy, noticing it doesn't work, but still keep shooting. (This doesn't make much sense, they don't even TRY to do anything else.)

Inaho of course has to show up to save the day with his stoic geniusness... Then after winning he talks to himself about how he won... Why? He already knows how he won, maybe if he was talking to others it would work but.. He was just talking to himself...

Also, why didn't they just strap those explosive armors on all the machines? Was Inaho really the only one to think of that? They already fought him before, you'd think they would have prepared in case he came back but I guess the adults continue to be incompetent while the highschool kid with 20-30 years less experience outsmarts them. Alrighty then. (Seriously, if they don't explain that then that is just bad writing... Hell keeping the explanation away for this long is already bad writing.)

All in all, I found some good in this episode, thus I consider it the best so far, I had quite a few nitpicks and some issues with it.
 
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Dr. Troyard? Maybe Slaine's father/grandfather? I think he has something to do with creating Vers technology, Aldnoah, because Saazbaum says "it's ironic" that Slaine is trying to foil his plan. Maybe it's ironic because Dr. Troyard is the one who invented the technology to give power to Vers, and Slaine is trying to oppose that same power created by his father/grandfather.

In any case, disappointed with the continued formulaic plot progression. There is some talking going on for the first 10-11 minutes or so, and then there's a fighting scene towards the last 10 minutes... They really need to change it up.

That's not how you do CPR, silly Asselyum!

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jdbe said:
Inaho once again using his unbelievable war tactics that he's a massed from years of combat to beat an exceptionally tough martian.


You can guess by the sentence above I was being sarcastic. It's just another poorly developed main character who wins against the odds for no reason. I mean, the plan itself was simple, yet all the people with actual war knowledge couldn't think of that. The way inaho went on it was like he might as well be in charge.

If he doesn't have any backstory, I agree with what you say. But this is just ep 5. I'm still hoping for the revelation of his past.
And anyone thinks that the emperor and that Knight is planning something? I mean Cruhteo couldn't do anything. But after hearing Slain and that knight, the emperor immediately decides to resume the war. @@


The emperor is being fooled by Saazbaum. Once Saazbaum took the hint that Slaine might know something about his plan, he took the first step and told the emperor that Slaine was a spy. When Slaine arrives shortly after Saazbaum has informed that Slaine is a spy, the emperor truly believes that Slaine is part of the Terrans that planned the assassination of the princess. So it's only Saazbaum, along with other corrupt officers, planning something. The emperor is just a powerful puppet they can manipulate.
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Inaho of course has to show up to save the day with his stoic geniusness... Then after winning he talks to himself about how he won... Why? He already knows how he won, maybe if he was talking to others it would work but.. He was just talking to himself...


Autism people usually talk to themselves. XD
I think he has some kind of mental disorder (no joke here, just speculation). He doesn't talk until Inko urges him to. And he usually asks "is it?". Just so weird for a "normal" person.
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Pretty decent episode. I'm kind of eager for some intense stuff to happen these coming episodes, let's hope for that. So they're trying to wipe out the human race it seems, interested to see where this goes.
 
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Autism people usually talk to themselves. XD
I think he has some kind of mental disorder (no joke here, just speculation). He doesn't talk until Inko urge him to. And he usually ask "is it?". Just so weird for a "normal" person.


That is entirely possible ya. I mean... They are so in your face about him being stoic that there just HAS to be an explanation for it...

I don't think it's Autism because Autistic people don't really act the way he does. They aren't unable to display emotions, they just display them in other ways, Inaho smiles every now and then so that isn't really it. (To be fair though I am no Psychologist or doctor so my description of Autism could be entirely off)

I have no idea where they are going with him, I hope it's somewhere. Every time it switches to him I am just like, "NO NO, GO BACK TO SLAINE." But ya, there has to be an explanation and I hope they do not wait till the very end to tell us, because there really isn't much relevance to keeping it from us. S: Even if they just lightly said it in the middle of a conversation, "Well Inaho can do it cause of his *BLANK*".
 
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Well, this episode was more bearable than the others. Still, Slaine is the best thing in this series.
 
Aug 2, 2014 11:21 AM

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Nice episode, really good music as always.
The main guy wins again and the princess is still with them. The martians still want the fight to continue and deceive the Emperor.
 
Aug 2, 2014 11:21 AM
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Awww Shit, looks like the Emperor choose to be punked by his own Knights that to believe in a low class earthling like Slaine.
 
Aug 2, 2014 11:24 AM

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Keten said:


So, the Emperor guy actually seems "NOT" 100% evil. That's cool. It's a shame the rest of the Vers Empire are still a bunch of assholes who have absolutely no intention of giving peace even a remote chance despite the fact the only reason they want to kill them is because they just think they are better (Ooo, such a good reason to go to war).

It's a shame because I was looking forward to the show actually straying from the average as hell plot and including a civil war within the Vers Empire, but nope, they completely wrote that off now.

Also, why didn't they just strap those explosive armors on all the machines? Was Inaho really the only one to think of that? They already fought him before, you'd think they would have prepared in case he came back but I guess the adults continue to be incompetent while the highschool kid with 20-30 years less experience outsmarts them. Alrighty then. (Seriously, if they don't explain that then that is just bad writing... Hell keeping the explanation away for this long is already bad writing.)


Yeah. Typical attitude of people with imperialistic mentality.

I wouldn't count that off quite yet. If this series really is a 2-cour, anything can happen and the plot can maybe turn for the better. However, after watching 5 episodes of almost the same thing but with just different dialogues is starting to bore me. Inaho's gotta run out of strategies some time right?

I think Inaho's coolheaded personality lets him think things through much more clearly than the soldiers, who usually panic when fighting an enemy they don't know anything about. Whereas the soldiers jump in immediately, Inaho experiments first to see what works and what doesn't. I don't think it's too unimaginable for a high school student to think at this level, but at the same time you're right. He has literally no experience in war and yet he can outsmart war veterans. I'd have preferred the main characters to be a bit older to make the whole thing a little more believable.
 
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chickenonthepan said:
Keten said:


Inaho of course has to show up to save the day with his stoic geniusness... Then after winning he talks to himself about how he won... Why? He already knows how he won, maybe if he was talking to others it would work but.. He was just talking to himself...


Autism people usually talk to themselves. XD
I think he has some kind of mental disorder (no joke here, just speculation). He doesn't talk until Inko urges him to. And he usually asks "is it?". Just so weird for a "normal" person.

I think it was kinda funny that Inko push him to talk. I don´t know if is autism, but is something strange.
Poor Slaine, could not do nothing for his princess.
 
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Unfortunately, cant increase the score anymore, but this was indeed another great episode. Slaine acted smart and was actually outsmarted, didnt expect that. Now lets see how he will get his ass out of that castle. I dont see any other way than to trust Count Cruhteo at this point. Or the remote chance that the princess will actually manage to contact her grandfather somehow.
 
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Slaine did what he could.Damn that Count Saazbaum.


It would have been better had he not done anything.
 
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It turns out the power of Aldnoah does have one critical weakness.....water. Inaho, I don't even know what to say. I totally get why the general MAL audience thinks he's just the coolest (I mean people here love characters like this that never ever fail) but he's very slowly turning this show into a joke with his strategies that continue to revolve around exploiting some ridiculous weakness in the Martian mechs. I mean who designs a weapon and mech that will explode the second it comes into contact with a large body of water. I mean I thought the barrier that makes it so you can't see without drones was impractical enough but this is about the most gross oversight in mech design I've seen out of a mech in ages.
 
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Wow ok... at first I thought the emperor was a reasonable dude, but then by the end he was swayed by some really shitty logic. Instead of waiting to see the results of the investigation he requested he just goes full stupid mode and restarts the war.....

Speaking of investigations the investigation into the death of Trillam was pretty silly as well. Just because he abandoned his mech doesn't mean he didn't die in the meteor bombardment. This is a nitpick but it was kinda funny that the guy he was talking to on screen was looking away instead of facing him.

Also does the princess know the short haired girl his a martian? (Can't remember) Because her statements would come across as strange to me if she weren't. I've also mentioned how I hate the impracticality of the martian mechs, so I won't get into that again, the only problem I had (outside of that) with that fight is that the ejection seat shot forward from the back of the mech and this dude is parachuting from the sky.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
It turns out the power of Aldnoah does have one critical weakness.....water


Blastoise would wreck them.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
It turns out the power of Aldnoah does have one critical weakness.....water

Did you watch the episode? Was a simple explanation why the mecha explode.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
It turns out the power of Aldnoah does have one critical weakness.....water

Did you watch the episode? Was a simple explanation why the mecha explode.


I'm aware, but why design a mech with such a blatant oversight in the first place. Does that not strike you as more than a little stupid and very convenient for someone like Inaho to just easily exploit. It's not really a matter of daring genius against all odds for Inaho when it's mainly just the Martian mechs having these critical oversights in their design that cause them to instantly become worthless if water and a couple of counter measures are invoked. It just feels kind of cheap and not really all that interesting strategy wise. It's like okay good job there again wunderkind, but it'd be nice to see this guy actual struggle against a mech with no one shot sure kill weakness for once and sweat it out while just barely scraping by in a win. That would certainly be more tense and the sense of accomplishment so much greater, but I guess it's not that kind of show.
 
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There's better kiss scenes this season from Aldnoah Zero & Fate/yuriloli than all other romance anime combined.
 
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With all respect regrettable as there are people who prefer Slaine.
Slaine It is weak, all he does is without thinking, he did not know the fight so to speak, he does not think before acting.
Have Inaho is completely opposite he always acts right, always think before acting is quiet.
lamentable same as someone can Sleine like one of the worst characters I've ever seen.

laine, acts without thinking, instead of trying to escape to Earth to search for the princess, and their weakness seeks the help of others.
Unlike Inahoa acting without relying on the opinion of others.
Those who like Slaine must have mental poblemas can so.
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vieri32 said:
With all respect regrettable as there are people who prefer Slaine.
Slaine It is weak, all he does is without thinking, he did not know the fight so to speak, he does not think before acting.
Have Inaho is completely opposite he always acts right, always think before acting is quiet.
lamentable same as someone can Sleine like one of the worst characters I've ever seen.


Slaine is interesting and well written and Inaho is a bland, badly written character who is just there as Gary Stu-self insert fantasy for now. It may pain you but Slaine's the show most popular character in Japan because people can be emotionally invested and attached on him.

Inaho so far is barely above plot device level.
 
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What's the deal with the explosive armour? Why aren't all of the Terran mechs outfitted with it? Is it in limited supply or something? Even if it is, you would think in a large scale war that it would be used regardless. Inaho is the only person to think to use it up to this point? Did he install it himself? I guess he anticipated that that guy would come back and had it ready in advance. That raises another question though. Why didn't he tell anyone else about his idea? Then maybe no one else would have had to die.

I really want to enjoy this anime, but it's details like this which irritate me. Call me nitpicky if you want. I don't think this is a bad show, I just think it's flawed. If I was to score it based on these first five episodes alone, I would probably give it a 6 or a 7.
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vieri32 said:
With all respect regrettable as there are people who prefer Slaine.
Slaine It is weak, all he does is without thinking, he did not know the fight so to speak, he does not think before acting.
Have Inaho is completely opposite he always acts right, always think before acting is quiet.
lamentable same as someone can Sleine like one of the worst characters I've ever seen.


Slaine is interesting and well written and Inaho is a bland, badly written character who is just there as Gary Stu-self insert fantasy for now. It may pain you but Slaine's the show most popular character in Japan because people can be emotionally invested and attached on him.

Inaho so far is barely above plot device level.

be moved by a character who does nothing without orders, do not you think a real puppet.
Slaine is only popular for you who likes to know weaklings who are acting under orders given by others.
 
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71 percent of the Earth's surface is water-covered. Let's design mechs which aren't capable of functioning in water. Dragons Den awaits.

I really hope Slaine gets a decent end, I'm gonna be so done if he just gets continuously screwed with all the way to the finale.

Gotta love emperors and royalty in anime, if they aren't incompetent 10 year olds they're senile old men/weak willed fodder who are manipulated by everyone. Best episode so far for me, more Slaine coverage it seemed to me at least than the previous episodes. Still disappointed to see MC exploiting the shit out of the worst mechs/pilots ever but still being held as a genius.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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Did you watch the episode? Was a simple explanation why the mecha explode.


I'm aware, but why design a mech with such a blatant oversight in the first place.


Do you really aware what cause the mecha explode ?

Please don't attack Inaho just because he shining then your Slaine.
 
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This anime is going into such a nice direction, honestly I'll be pretty pissed if they fuck it up.

Also the OST is nuts! That electro-dupstep-or-whatever-it-was-part was so sick... I love it!
 
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