| That's cute. >The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion). The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the possible profit industry could make if people who use Chinese pirate sites would have bought every single anime they watched last year, is 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).* Take anime from me and I will start doing something productive instead, like watch porn. I doubt no one is taking anything from anyone with this. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| Piracy hurts more than it helps. Most people that watch Anime illegally likely won't buy it. Some say they will but 5 years later, still haven't. Don't say it helps either, because if piracy helped the industry, they would oppose anti-piracy acts, not support them. The industry cares about MONEY and they wouldn't do something that makes them lose money. If you want to buy unlicensed Anime/manga, learn Japanese like other non-lazy people. I spent 5 years of my life learning enough Japanese to buy what I want and understand it. Most anime fans outside Japan aren't very likely to be working full time career level jobs so they likely have time free time to learn Japanese. Spend less time being selfish and watching Anime illegally and more time trying to learn Japanese so you can buy what you want. If the price is too high then maybe Anime isn't for you. While the prices are fairly high, they are low compared to how much it cost to staff, produce and distribute it. In Japan, the average Anime otaku spends $1,000/year on Anime. I spend $3,000/year on Anime. Even someone with a part time job could afford to buy Anime. I know of a racing journalist that makes a lot of money and he prefers downloading or watching online for free over buying Anime. Don't call yourself an Anime fan or anime otaku if you do more pirating than buying because those aren't the actions of a fan, they are the actions of a selfish criminal. I love the industry and I contribute to the industry. I am an actual fan, not a fake one. Without the industry, that anime or manga you love would of never made it past the creators brain. Keep that in mind. You can all down vote me all you want, but deep down inside you know I'm right. I care about the industry more than I care about your own selfish desires, get use to it. I support these actions and I'll help if I can. Eventually, piracy will be pushed underground with the drug and illegal porn trade and it'll hide in fear in the deep web(onion). I rest my case. |
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| Kinda surprised this didn't happen sooner. |
Lolicon said: Most anime fans outside Japan aren't very likely to be working full time career level jobs so they likely have time free time to learn Japanese. That's pretty rude assumption you make here. |
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| O lord i just hope they leave kissanime alone .O. :p |
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Lolicon said: Piracy hurts more than it helps. Most people that watch Anime illegally likely won't buy it. Some say they will but 5 years later, still haven't. Don't say it helps either, because if piracy helped the industry, they would oppose anti-piracy acts, not support them. The industry cares about MONEY and they wouldn't do something that makes them lose money. If you want to buy unlicensed Anime/manga, learn Japanese like other non-lazy people. I spent 5 years of my life learning enough Japanese to buy what I want and understand it. Most anime fans outside Japan aren't very likely to be working full time career level jobs so they likely have time free time to learn Japanese. Spend less time being selfish and watching Anime illegally and more time trying to learn Japanese so you can buy what you want. If the price is too high then maybe Anime isn't for you. While the prices are fairly high, they are low compared to how much it cost to staff, produce and distribute it. In Japan, the average Anime otaku spends $1,000/year on Anime. I spend $3,000/year on Anime. Even someone with a part time job could afford to buy Anime. I know of a racing journalist that makes a lot of money and he prefers downloading or watching online for free over buying Anime. Don't call yourself an Anime fan or anime otaku if you do more pirating than buying because those aren't the actions of a fan, they are the actions of a selfish criminal. I love the industry and I contribute to the industry. I am an actual fan, not a fake one. Without the industry, that anime or manga you love would of never made it past the creators brain. Keep that in mind. You can all down vote me all you want, but deep down inside you know I'm right. I care about the industry more than I care about your own selfish desires, get use to it. I support these actions and I'll help if I can. Eventually, piracy will be pushed underground with the drug and illegal porn trade and it'll hide in fear in the deep web(onion). I rest my case. Good lord, the IMS is insane in your post, it's off the charts. Also few anime are worth buying on BD at prices Japan puts on them. You should send a polite letter to these studios to get them to cut the cost of BDs in Japan by 50-60%. I understand figures, dakimakura, and the like being $70+, they are 100% strictly for people like myself collectors and even then there are great cheaper options available, but anime should be cheaper in Japan than the merchandise since it should be available to all fans. |
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WhiteJoker said: O lord i just hope they leave kissanime alone .O. :p It'll be fine. |
| "Did you really think I wouldn’t cheat just because I was already winning?" - Dread Emperor Terribilis II "I chose glory and success. The box did not contain what was written on the lid." - Sand dan Glokta |
Progeusz said: Lolicon said: Lol.Mindless ramble @Hoppy, you should know by now it doesn't work like that. I know, but I still wouldn't mind a noticeable price decrease to ease the wallet strain and any reasonable option that could get more buyers is a good idea. That and a service like steam to download BD volumes with no IP blocks or region locks, which could cut the prices down a bit. |
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Lolicon said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpZPWNuy4A~~~~ |
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| There is no end though there is a start in piracy-- Infinite. Why do people think this is just going to suddenly stop? |
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Hoppy said: Yeah, Steam-like thing could work. The difference from current model is huge though so I doubt it will happen anytime soon.I know, but I still wouldn't mind a noticeable price decrease to ease the wallet strain and any reasonable option that could get more buyers is a good idea. That and a service like steam to download BD volumes with no IP blocks or region locks, which could cut the prices down a bit. I would love to buy some shows but as you say, they're awfully expensive so I have to settle for manga sets at amazon. |
Progeusz said: Hoppy said: Yeah, Steam-like thing could work. The difference from current model is huge though so I doubt it will happen anytime soon.I know, but I still wouldn't mind a noticeable price decrease to ease the wallet strain and any reasonable option that could get more buyers is a good idea. That and a service like steam to download BD volumes with no IP blocks or region locks, which could cut the prices down a bit. I would love to buy some shows but as you say, they're awfully expensive so I have to settle for manga sets at amazon. Steam does it the right way. You purchase your game once and have access that isn't limited to any medium which is going to rot away in 10 years. It doesn't even use any space on HDD if you don't need it at given time. Frankly, I used to pirate lots of games, but since I started using Steam I found myself stopped pirating altogether. I even bought most of titles I used to pirate, just for the sake of owning them and having them stored all in one place. If there would be a similar platform that offered anime and/or manga of quality on par with modern fansubs and at reasonable prices, I'd gladly use it. As long as it doesn't force me to watch streams, making me unable to play it anywhere/however I want. |
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| Wait does this mean, that Japan finally realize the potential money that can be made? But they are doing it wrong, fighting piracy is useless. People want choice. Show all anime free first 3-5 episodes. Have people subscribe or pay per anime. Profit @ reasonable prices. People only pirate, if they have no legal access, no ability to see if an anime is worth watching, and not being able to watch at their own pace. |
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Rachmaninow said: Lolicon said: Fanatic blah blah blah Thank you for opening my eyes, Mr. Lolicon. I will immediately cease any studies I may be pursuing right now, get a job (probably porn star), and spend 90% of my income on anime and anime only! For a real anime fan has to devote their entire being to watching Chinese cartoons. Those who half-ass it, daring to call it a hobby, are filthy casuals and shall burn in the deepest pits of Hell. I am glad that educated persons such as yourself exist on this rotten planet. Thank you for being alive and spreading your wisdom. lol this ^ |
| To hunger, but not gluttonous. To arouse, but not lustful. To tire, but not slothful. |
| Implying copyright usually worked in the past, especially with those operating overseas. They'll end up multiplying anyway if one big one goes down, lol. |
| Tutturu ~ |
| I only download new anime and anime/manga that has not been localized outside of japan and most likely never will, i enjoy buying as it builds up my collection. |
Dragon Kick Your Ass Into The Milky Way! |
| Doubt it would really affect the availability of anime and manga on the internet. Pirates always find a way around copy-protection. Like others said, new sites will be launched for sharing anyway. If it would even work, the income of the industry might even decrease a bit, considering that most people who buy the DVDs and manga volumes tend to watch/read them illegally before purchasing. There are also people, who don't necessarily buy those products, but are willing to shell out some cash on merchandise. Nobody's going to pay for merch related to a franchise they don't know. |
| If they offer a reasonably priced alternative, if wouldnt mind going full legal. Im already trying to buy every series i can afford on physical, but with the pricing its nigh impossible. Physical releases need to be cheaper, localization needs to be more common and sites like Crunchyroll need to expand their libraries to the size of what popular Torrent sites offer. Thats what would motivate people to go legal, fighting the internet will do nothing. |
| Cut off a pirate site, and two more shall take its place! HAIL HYDRA!!! |
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'If people refuse to accept you, then I'll just accept you even more.' |
| The success of anime is down to these 'pirate' sites. They can't have it both ways. |
| Well, a ton of new sites would still make anime harder to find... then again, I guess few are as lazy as me, haha. |
| Geez, welcome to the NHK! Am I right fellas? Because it's a pun. Get it? |
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| This is just funny. There are tons of shows that I wouldn't even know about had they not been avaliable online. The companies are cutting their own throats if they think this will force more people to buy their(overprized) products; 80 USD for 2-3 episodes simply isn't worth it(And that is theorizing that I even KNEW about the series). |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| it's not like they can destroy the database anyways they will jsut use a different site blah blah blah |
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| This is an NHK conspiracy! |
| I would only pay for anime and manga online if they were all in a single site and I had access to all of them and if it costed less than 50 dollas per month. |
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| Is gogoanime, kissanime and anilinkz safe from this purge?; Then again, this is exactly what happened when the U.S. tried to enforce prohibition and well like many of the people who posted before me... ya good luck with that. It'd be hella funny if there be speakeasy type of establishments to watch anime tho. Anime/manga= 2014 version of the Prohibition |
1L0can0Jul 29, 2014 4:50 PM
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
JD2411 said: so japan just made this site to "stop" piracy - http://manga-anime-here.com/ it only has mainstream manga and you have to go to another site to buy it. most of these sites don't work outside of the US. gj japan That site has zero appeal to me, bleh, the selection is shit. -500/10, Absolute fail from Japanese studios and publishers. |
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| Honestly I refuse to purchase an anime knowing that I may not enjoy it or worth being in my collection, especially at their prices. If I come across an anime that I feel is worth having the DVD/Blu-Ray, then I will purchase it without a doubt, but if I have no access to any of these animes online then I probably won't be purchasing anything at all. I do understand that piracy is a big problem for them in some cases, but without it, most of us probably won't know much about anime. |
| [quote=Hoppy] JD2411 said: so japan just made this site to "stop" piracy - http://manga-anime-here.com/ That site has zero appeal to me, bleh, the selection is shit. -500/10, Absolute fail from Japanese studios and publishers. It has lousy web design to boot. If Japs actually gave a toss they would have invested money into stopping this 'piracy problem'. Truth be told I think they don't even consider the west as a viable market most of the time, they just focus on releasing in Japan and then think of us as an after thought. Final Fantasy Type-0 taking 4 years to get an official western release is pretty much proof of this. It could have been out same day over here and sold like chocolate hotcakes but they didn't care enough to make the effort then. |
Hoppy said: JD2411 said: so japan just made this site to "stop" piracy - http://manga-anime-here.com/ That site has zero appeal to me, bleh, the selection is shit. -500/10, Absolute fail from Japanese studios and publishers. It has lousy web design to boot. If Japs actually gave a toss they would have invested money into stopping this 'piracy problem'. Truth be told I think they don't even consider the west as a viable market most of the time, they just focus on releasing in Japan and then think of us as an after thought. Final Fantasy Type-0 taking 4 years to get an official western release is pretty much proof of this. It could have been out same day over here and sold like chocolate hotcakes but they didn't care enough to make the effort then. Japan lags in the IT department worse than most students did when no child left behind was implemented. As for that video, it reeks of piracy in itself with the footage, lazy as hell, and overall just not Japanese in promotion. You'd think it would be over the top considering what they are dealing with and the audience, it just looks more AMV-ish without the quality some have. |
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joe-anime said: I find anime on YouTube and Dailymotion more than any illegitimate streaming sites, people will just find whatever is most convenient and frankly I doubt Japan will be able to provide that.If only this went worldwide,these illegal sites need to be taken down. |
JD2411 said: Hoppy said: you haven't seen the promotional video yetThat site has zero appeal to me, bleh, the selection is shit. -500/10, Absolute fail from Japanese studios and publishers. Wow, these lolis thanking me, and the scenes of people reading overpriced manga volumes convinced me for sure. =P |
Hoppy said: Japan lags in the IT department worse than most students did when no child left behind was implemented. That's ironic considering there meant to be the technology epicentre of the World. I always thought Japan would develop the best sites, but honestly this could be done by a college student. |
joe-anime said: Xenograft said: The success of anime is down to these 'pirate' sites. They can't have it both ways. Not true,at least here in the US.there are plenty of legal sites here in the states,there shouldn't be ANY excuse to go to a pirate site. If you want hentai outside of Japan, you must download it. |
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