| I find it really hard to avoid dubs. The only tolerable dubs I've ever come across were those of the Haruhi Suzumiya series and movie, every other dubbed anime has ranged from intolerable to infuriating. Worst example is Kokoro Connect, which has such shit English voice actors that it makes my teeth itch and fingernails shiver. Why are anime dubbed at all, if they can't do a good job? |
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| If you find it hard to avoid dubs, you really aren't trying hard enough to do it. I don't like dubs, and I never will, yet I find it incredibly easy to avoid them. |
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JD2411 said: Red_Tuesday said: Why are anime dubbed at all, if they can't do a good job? for children and people who can't read subtitles yeah but when the dubs are so bad, and is also considered a backup plan for those two groups of people - why, pray tell - are they always the DEFAULT choice? Having to change to subtitles and Japanese every episode is a drag. |
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| What the hell kind of dilema is this? Its not hard in any way shape or form to avoid a dub And people watch them because its easier and more fun to watch things in their natural language than read subs, its nice to focus on the whole screen rather than the bottom half of it. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| You may find it annoying, but some of us prefer English dubs. Changing the audio track on a DVD player only requires the pushing of one button. It's not that difficult. |
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| If you use VLC, you can set in Preferences -> Audio, and Preferences -> Subtitles the default language to be japanese for audio, and english for subtitles. Unless it's one of those shitty rips that calls them "Track 1" and "Track 2"; in this case, i use the hotkeys V and/or B, and rename the anime folder to remind me of these hotkeys ^^" On other players it might be different, but there should be settings for subs and audio |
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JD2411 said: JizzyHitler said: You can still focus on the whole screen and read subs at the same time without any difficulty at allAnd people watch them because its easier and more fun to watch things in their natural language than read subs, its nice to focus on the whole screen rather than the bottom half of it. Working_Designs said: and some of us prefer subs, yet we get neglected by the western anime industryYou may find it annoying, but some of us prefer English dubs. Changing the audio track on a DVD player only requires the pushing of one button. It's not that difficult. changing the audio track for every single episode is annoying I've never had the issue of having to change the audio track for every episode, one change and it's subbed the entire way. |
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JD2411 said: JizzyHitler said: You can still focus on the whole screen and read subs at the same time without any difficulty at allAnd people watch them because its easier and more fun to watch things in their natural language than read subs, its nice to focus on the whole screen rather than the bottom half of it. Working_Designs said: and some of us prefer subs, yet we get neglected by the western anime industryYou may find it annoying, but some of us prefer English dubs. Changing the audio track on a DVD player only requires the pushing of one button. It's not that difficult. changing the audio track for every single episode is annoying You know what's really annoying? Finding out an Anime you really want to see has no English dub. If we dub fans can put up with watching shows subbed sometimes, then surely you sub fans can put up with pushing the audio button on your DVD player. |
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Working_Designs said: there's so many good anime that are not dubbed i dont evenYou know what's really annoying? Finding out an Anime you really want to see has no English dub. If we dub fans can put up with watching shows subbed sometimes, then surely you sub fans can put up with pushing the audio button on your DVD player. |
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romagia said: Working_Designs said: there's so many good anime that are not dubbed i dont evenYou know what's really annoying? Finding out an Anime you really want to see has no English dub. If we dub fans can put up with watching shows subbed sometimes, then surely you sub fans can put up with pushing the audio button on your DVD player. Who said I didn't watch subbed Anime? I prefer dubs, but when I come across something I really want to see, I'll still watch it, even if it is sub only. |
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| For the most part I do agree. But there are dubs that match the quality of the original. There are even dubs that exceed the quality of the original, but these are extremely rare - Baccano! and Ghost Stories are good examples of the latter. |
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Working_Designs said: No it isn't, that's the best. Because you don't have to change the audio each time you put in the disc and it's easier to find it subbed online. Especially if it's one of those old "the dub is better and more watched than the sub" anime.You know what's really annoying? Finding out an Anime you really want to see has no English dub. |
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Heredity said: I use a PS2 and I already told you that won't work.it's 100% probable dubs are how you found out about anime. IntroverTurtle said: change your blu-ray player's default audio track preference to japanese. problem solved.No it isn't, that's the best. Because you don't have to change the audio each time you put in the disc and it's easier to find it subbed online. Especially if it's one of those old "the dub is better and more watched than the sub" anime. you niggers gotta realise your media player has settings BEFORE you put in the disc, too. lol. |
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| FMA:B and Darker Than Black has pretty good english dub IMO. But besides that I didn't come across really nice english dubs yet(to be fair I haven't tried much. I gave up after One Piece and Dragon Ball Z which are both awful). D. Gray-man probably is fine, too. Just watched the first episode of that one though because they didn't dub all episodes and thus it's kinda senseless. |
Red_Tuesday said: I find it really hard to avoid dubs. Are they ambushing you on the street, dragging you into the alley kicking and screaming, and shooting you in the kneecap and leaving you to bleed out or something? |
| This is so stupid. If you don't like dubs, just watch subs, its that simple. It does not take an incredible amount of effort to avoid dubs, especially considering the vast majority of anime in existence are not dubbed anyway. Just avoid the dual audio and dubbed shit, and stick with sub only (if you download, idk what you're doing op, if you are a full pirate or 100% legal freak, or somewhere in between). If you are a pirate this thread is invalid, you can always find subs somewhere. |
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| Topic Cleaned You may talk about why dubs persist but do not turn this into a dub vs sub topic. |
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| ITT: "Oh waaah, I have to undergo a minor inconvenience to enjoy HQ anime I didn't pay for!" Why download dual-audio releases at all if you don't think you'll listen to the English track? Some groups that release dual-audio rips primarily cater to dub fans, because they assume that the sub-fans/purists/dub-haters are downloading other releases that... don't have the English track. Hence the English audio as default. In theory, there are ways to set Japanese audio + full subs as default, though I haven't figured out how to do it ever since the maximum-lag-typesetting groups forced xy-vsfilter on us and the concurrent splitter change from Haali to LAV. (Along with restyling subs, that's another late-00s functionality that xy-vsfilter took away.) But there are other, more drastic options if you're that opposed to clicking a few buttons or hearing 4 seconds of English audio that may or may not actually contain any dialogue. If you obtain mkvtoolnix and mkvmerge, you can change the order of the streams and make JP audio and the full subs default, or remove any audio/subtitle tracks you don't need entirely. Either one of these acts will alter the file and make it incompatible with any batch torrents you may want to seed. So it'd be quicker and easier to just DL files without English audio in the first place -- check AniDB to see the audio tracks in a given release. |
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| The only time I got annoyed about there being dubs was when I found out netflix and on demand on cable had anime I had been wanting to see. Much to my utter disappointment I found out they would only offer it dubbed. They are getting better with slowly understanding that a good portion of their target audience wont watch it without an alternative. |
Zalis said: In theory, there are ways to set Japanese audio + full subs as default, though I haven't figured out how to do it ever since ... SMPlayer, the excellent front-end for mplayer, makes all this as simple as clicking a few boxes or filling in a form field. There is a version for Windows on the SMPlayer site; Linux versions usually reside in each distribution's repositories. (Warning: If you download the Windows version, make sure to uncheck the box that would install "RocketSearch" as well.) |
| It's like dub haters are looking for something to bitch about no matter how invalid the argument. If you buy the dvds they all come with a sub track and it takes just 1 button to switch and if you torrent it why would the companies want to make your life easier? |
| Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate. My actual list: https://kitsu.io/users/mattbenz99/library check out my youtube channel for my review: https://www.youtube.com/user/mattbenz99 |
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Red_Tuesday said: I find it really hard to avoid dubs. That's your fail then. |
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| Aaaah!...hehe...takes me back xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_gtyyarG2A |
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| Dubs are more accessible than subs, people new to the medium are more likely to be interested if they don't have to read subtitles. And its not like all dubs are universally crap, there are some very good dubs. |
Superpieguy said: and? What is it to you? What do you care if someone enjoys watching something in a different way than you? If someone doesn't want to read when they watch a show then that is none of your businessJD2411 said: You can still focus on the whole screen and read subs at the same time without any difficulty at all and some of us prefer subs, yet we get neglected by the western anime industry changing the audio track for every single episode is annoying This. To actually respond to the thread though, it's mainly because quite a few people are intolerant of reading while watching. It's really simple once you get used to it, but people don't want to put in the effort. |
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| Love the subs and convince yourself that dub is the worst thing created by Britannia. |
| Raise it up, raise up the happiness. |
| How is it hard to avoid dubs I don't get it. And not every show can get a dub because there a lot of licensing laws and copyrights and sometimes the Japanese studios just don't want to give the rights to Western studios. That is just the way it is. |
JD2411 said: You can still focus on the whole screen and read subs at the same time without any difficulty at all Actually you really can't. Human perceptual span while reading is very focused (as in like 7 letters). When you're reading those subs you're not really focused on the image. Also, like most people, if you're watching a decent sized screen you'll shift your eyes to focus on important areas of the screens (i.e. losing focus on the rest of the image). JD2411 said: and some of us prefer subs, yet we get neglected by the western anime industry changing the audio track for every single episode is annoying When was the last time you bought a DVD or BD? Pretty sure this doesn't happen anymore. |
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Red_Tuesday said: I think you'll find that Kokoro Connect was an English dub produced by Sentai Filmworks whose average quality is far lower than pretty much every other companyWorst example is Kokoro Connect, which has such shit English voice actors that it makes my teeth itch and fingernails shiver. |
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Red_Tuesday said: Why are anime dubbed at all, if they can't do a good job? cause people like me can be too lazy to read subs |
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| when i watch anime, i rarely come across a dubbed episode. the only time i do is when i am searching for old and outdated anime. those seem to have more dubbed than subbed online |
Red_Tuesday said: Why are anime dubbed at all, if they can't do a good job? Why do some sub groups bother if they can't do a good job? |
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Nanashi- said: FMA:B and Darker Than Black has pretty good english dub IMO. But besides that I didn't come across really nice english dubs yet(to be fair I haven't tried much. I gave up after One Piece and Dragon Ball Z which are both awful). D. Gray-man probably is fine, too. Just watched the first episode of that one though because they didn't dub all episodes and thus it's kinda senseless. Lol no the One Piece dub is good and the DB series having a good dub is practically almost considered a fact by everyone... And who the hell cares if the episodes aren't all dub? There's 50 episodes dubbed.. Ugh some of the replies here are really crappy |
TheGrandSage23 said: The people who actually want to finish the series in one language.And who the hell cares if the episodes aren't all dub? There's 50 episodes dubbed.. TheGrandSage23 said: Only by the people who've grown up with a DBZ dub.and the DB series having a good dub is practically almost considered a fact by everyone... |
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| ITT: attention whores If you can't be bothered to avoid a dub you never planned on seeing, you can't complain. |
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Majikkusesu said: JD2411 said: You can still focus on the whole screen and read subs at the same time without any difficulty at all Actually you really can't. Human perceptual span while reading is very focused (as in like 7 letters). 7 "units" is the typical size of a human's short term memory, not "perceptual span" (whatever that is). As for the rest of the stuff you posted, if it's exposition, there's nothing to see anyways. If it's mid-action, a good anime won't have much dialogue anyways and you can read it out the corner of your eye while watching the action or you can read it fast and get back to the action. |
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