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Jul 19, 2014 12:03 PM

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I see. So if my understanding is correctly, it's similar to how theoretical active camo would work. Even though they wouldn't be able to see you, the light bending around you would render you blind as well. Can't see outside when you're reflecting shit off you. Or at least, that's how I'm assuming they got the idea of the blind spot.

We knew Bowlcut would survive from the preview, but we didn't know how short lived it would be.

Good ep.

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I think the question you should be asking is how is he able to receive data from the flying cameras and communicate with Slaine if the barrier supposedly absorbs all radio waves.


I can see the confusion. Though I wouldn't call this a plot hole, just something left unexplained. They could have pulled something out of their ass to explain it.

People will naturally nit-pick every detail of this show, so I assume their line of thinking was "fuck it".

Besides, I don't think it's all too crazy when there's shit like the magical princess transformation..
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Jul 19, 2014 12:11 PM

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I see. So if my understanding is correctly, it's similar to how theoretical active camo would work. Even though they wouldn't be able to see you, the light bending around you would render you blind as well. Can't see outside when you're reflecting shit off you. Or at least, that's how I'm assuming they got the idea of the blind spot.

We knew Bowlcut would survive from the preview, but we didn't know how short lived it would be.

Good ep.

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I think the question you should be asking is how is he able to receive data from the flying cameras and communicate with Slaine if the barrier supposedly absorbs all radio waves.


I can see the confusion. Though I wouldn't call this a plot hole, just something left unexplained. They could have pulled something out of their ass to explain it.

People will naturally nit-pick every detail of this show, so I assume their line of thinking was "fuck it".

Besides, I don't think it's all too crazy when there's shit like the magical princess transformation..


True, the show has definitely shown me where to set my expectations with this episode much like Keten argued.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:12 PM
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orangpelupa said:


so... how can we see their robot if it absorb anything including light?

and if enemy hae those signal transceiver for the flying cameras, why he cant just fly the camera inside the tunnel.


overall this is a nice episode but they try too hard to be "scientific".


I think the question you should be asking is how is he able to receive data from the flying cameras and communicate with Slaine if the barrier supposedly absorbs all radio waves.

I also wondered abt this, but then they explained in that knife scene. The only spot in Trillram's mecha which didnt absorb everything was left there so that he could reveive the signals from the flying cameras. That's what Inaho was bettig on when he made the plan.

As for Orange's question, yeah... just realised. Doesnt make sense for Trillram's mecha to be visible if it absorbs everything includig light. He'd be just a black mass. Also, good point. He could've just sent cameras. He had like a dozen with him. Surely he could've scouted the loacation. Maybe he was a bit afraid that by forcig his way trough the tunnel it would collapse, and the survivors migt somehow escape through the mess?
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Jul 19, 2014 12:14 PM

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Action was better this time around, but honestly to me it made no sense. Does Inaho just take classes in mechanics, military strategy, theoretical physics and mecha piloting? Does everyone? He's in bloody high school for crying out loud. Yet he outsmarts these trained professionals with a strategy he came up with practically alone with minimum resources in the time of like 5 hours? Lmao. At least they showed most of the process though.



Yeah. Agreed. I'm pretty disappointed by that. Then again, I should have expected this. Kids being super geniuses in mecha series is par for the course nowadays. I still find it annoying, though. At this point, I'm more interested in Inaho's sister and Kouichirou when it comes to the characters, and Slaine to a lesser extent.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:17 PM

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Brilliant OST and brilliant MC! Inaho is a beast!!! So far best anime this season :)
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:18 PM
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This episode has left me impressed because compared to the first two this one was significantly better. Although it bugs me how the main character kind of shrugs off the death of his friend I would think that death would have had more of an impact. Then again, so far the protagonist has been an emotionless asshole so I guess I'm not too surprised. I loved it when Slaine shot the shit out of that Martian at the very end, it gives me hope that he will eventually become a good character.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:19 PM

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Mormegil said:
Kids being super geniuses in mecha series is par for the course nowadays.



I suppose you haven't been looking around then. Boards all over the internet have already figure out how to stop the mecha, even minutes after the episode was released.

Are you saying all of /m/ are super geniuses too? Suki? /a/?

This wasn't an act of genius. Any kid could have put 2 and 2 together.

Even I figured out how to stop the mech, and I'm no super genius.

They aren't trying to pull a Light or Lelouch here.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:21 PM

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Where do I even begin lol.....10/5 for me

This episode was just fantastic and I loved everything about it

I'm really excited to see that the MC isn't a heartless/emotionless stiff and that he does feel...And I LOVE how he's pretty much the Shikamaru of this series..

Their plan and the execution of it was just perfect....When the MC said "This is for my friend" I fanboyed so hard lol Just wow...I am loving him right now

The OST is orgasmic on so many levels....The one that was playing when they were on the bridge...HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

And things are progressing really smooth too, I'm glad that we didn't have to wait for the princess to reveal herself as well as her friend to find out that she was alive

And that brings me to the post credit scene, when I saw that the cunt survived I was screaming for the white haired kid to kill his ass and damn he is still shooting that guy as we speak xDD

This episode was just filled with so much win...Every character impressed me...Everything was just great for me
 
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:26 PM

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Keten said:

The plot is still heavily cliche and generic, and the science makes no sense whatsoever(Though that is partly because Urobuchi is trying to mix real science with fake science so casually that it comes off as ridiculously inaccurate and contradictory).



Hello again. I just feel like I have to stop you on that statment.

If you explained the science of our modern technolgies (Like computers) to a man of the industrial era that lived 200 years ago, do you think he would understand anything he was told? The science of the Aldnoah makes no sense to us, but any attempt to explain it would probably not fix that. Considering how far we have come in less than a hundred years, it's not suprising that technology can advance way beyond of what we understand.

Consider it as an acceptable break from reality. Any attempt to add realism to it would
most likely be tedious, difficult, or confusing for us.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:28 PM
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I dont understand how those kids are so accurate with their bazooka rounds. Bloody hell, the freaking princess, who didnt seem to know a thig abt guns, could suddenly accuratel take down one observational device in one shot on a moving truck? Meh... I'd let the accrate shooting slide, but that pricess shot kinda deserved a facepalm... -_-...



If you didn't notice. They were shooting smoke grenades, not actually shooting down the cameras.
 
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I dont understand how those kids are so accurate with their bazooka rounds. Bloody hell, the freaking princess, who didnt seem to know a thig abt guns, could suddenly accuratel take down one observational device in one shot on a moving truck? Meh... I'd let the accrate shooting slide, but that pricess shot kinda deserved a facepalm... -_-...



If you didn't notice. They were shooting smoke grenades, not actually shooting down the cameras.


Yeah. They didn't have to be accurate at all. In fact, even the worst shot in the world could do it. I believe it was MGL smoke rounds. At least it looked like an MGL.
 
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:34 PM

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Was surprised their technology hadn't advanced past ordinary satellite overhead views, no x-ray, no infrared, really weird. Enjoyable episode though, definitely the best of the 3 so far.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:35 PM

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Meh, I expected bigger death count. Will give more episodes for shit to hit the fan.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:36 PM

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I really hope Slaine joins Inaho and co. because then he wouldn't be the Suzaku-rival-type and the Terrans would actually be able to put up a fight against Vers.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:36 PM

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Meh, I expected bigger death count. Will give more episodes for shit to hit the fan.


Don't expect it. Butcher only did the first 3 episodes.
 
Jul 19, 2014 12:37 PM

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I'm not really impressed so far, maybe I had too high expectations. I hope they explain Inaho's lack of explicit emotions and how he is some genius kid. I understand that it was easy to put together but then why is this kid the only person to figure out the weakness? The princess being that girl was expected. I don't really care in particular for any of the characters or like any of them which is a big minus for me. The martians are also so cartoon (read: over the top) evil.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:43 PM

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Great episode. I really didn't like MC is the first two episodes; found him to be rather emotionless. However, in this episode they actually gave his character some growth and showed his emotional side while still maintaining his calm demeanor.

Slain is the man. I'm happy he actually shot him and didn't chicken out at the last moment.

Also, Mahou Shoujo Asseylum is best Mahou Shoujo.
 
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I can't wait to see how Inaho fares against the martian mechas.

Inaho has really given their current situation a lot of thought and he knows exactly what to do, bravo.

Inaho freaking smart and it seems like my guess that the girl was the princess was spot on!

Inaho... best squad leader (even though he isn't one) of 2014!

C'mon Inaho, kick that martian ass!

Now that's quite skill to transform like that you have there princess.

Ah, Inaho finally avenged his fallen friend T.T

Freaking bastard is still alive it seems... oh. never mind, Slaine killed him, good job.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:45 PM
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orangpelupa said:
and if enemy hae those signal transceiver for the flying cameras, why he cant just fly the camera inside the tunnel.

I think that's quite obvious. If Trillram just sent in his aux cameras into the tunnel, they would be quite easy to spot and shoot down. Even if they don't destroy them, they could still figure out how his barrier works more easily.
One of the other posibilities is that those aux cameras can't be manually controlled. Otherwise he could just bail them out from the smoke screen and regain visibility. Maybe they just have fixed positions and move accordingly.
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ex_necross said:
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If you didn't notice. They were shooting smoke grenades, not actually shooting down the cameras.


Yeah. They didn't have to be accurate at all. In fact, even the worst shot in the world could do it. I believe it was MGL smoke rounds. At least it looked like an MGL.

Oh crap. My bad... should've paid more attention.

Hmm... I guess that makes sense now -_-... i feel bad for makig suh a dumbass mistake.
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So instead of falling into the cockpit of some super-prototype, Inaho used his brain, a rubber band and a paper clip. I hope this continues. This anime now shows a lot of promise

Also I've got an urge to read some good ol' Stainless Steel Rat cause I love those resourceful characters
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Jul 19, 2014 12:46 PM
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Maybe we should put up a bet on who will survive @ the end of the season~
That really is all I care about this season.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:49 PM
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That was super duper good and those kids are impressive but they aren't annoying and the adults don't seem stupid as of yet. They cleverly came up with a plan to find out the Mechs weakness and it was really well done. I like how everyone had a part in the plan and was useful. Really enjoying this anime and after this impressive episode it is definitely one of my favorites this year so far.
 
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I'm not really impressed so far, maybe I had too high expectations. I hope they explain Inaho's lack of explicit emotions and how he is some genius kid. I understand that it was easy to put together but then why is this kid the only person to figure out the weakness? The princess being that girl was expected. I don't really care in particular for any of the characters or like any of them which is a big minus for me. The martians are also so cartoon (read: over the top) evil.


thus the flaw of the animes. they choose to have MCs in high school. if this were adults, figuring out things would be more believable. being an anime fan, its this "anime logic" that I have come to terms with. Regardless, I thought this was one of the most awesome episodes this season so far. I was disappointed when I saw that Martian pilot guy still alive (yes another anime rule you have to accept, death is mostly minimal) but then when he got killed at the end credit, I was like "yes!!"
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

I think the question you should be asking is how is he able to receive data from the flying cameras and communicate with Slaine if the barrier supposedly absorbs all radio waves.


Didn't they exploit that at the end? The place where the mc struck the big knife was the receiver of the cameras signal.
 
 
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Hello again. I just feel like I have to stop you on that statment.

If you explained the science of our modern technolgies (Like computers) to a man of the industrial era that lived 200 years ago, do you think he would understand anything he was told? The science of the Aldnoah makes no sense to us, but any attempt to explain it would probably not fix that. Considering how far we have come in less than a hundred years, it's not suprising that technology can advance way beyond of what we understand.

Consider it as an acceptable break from reality. Any attempt to add realism to it would
most likely be tedious, difficult, or confusing for us.


I really cannot word my response correctly. I wrote it out 3 times and then erased it. xD

It more or less was condensed to.

- They can just pull stuff out of their asses to explain how they defeat anything in a battle now.

- It takes away from the strategy because they aren't using things we are familiar with, they are using things that were not established yet and the audience has no idea what it is and as such only comes off as smart because they mix it with real science that people can identify with, but if you actually start putting pieces together, it doesn't actually make much sense. A barrier that can absorb everything, including light? That would cause massive time and space distortion, it simply doesn't go with the laws of physics.

- When a sci-fi show breaks the laws of physics, that is going too far, because that is no longer science, it's magic. I can forgive it for that to an extent though.

Also, having the people figuring this stuff out and talking about be kids doesn't help at all. Why do these kids understand all these things and no one is surprised by it? Why are they just as smart as these people who seem to be trained professionals? It just makes no sense. As such, I know what to expect now.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:


I think the question you should be asking is how is he able to receive data from the flying cameras and communicate with Slaine if the barrier supposedly absorbs all radio waves.

I also wondered abt this, but then they explained in that knife scene. The only spot in Trillram's mecha which didnt absorb everything was left there so that he could reveive the signals from the flying cameras. That's what Inaho was bettig on when he made the plan.

As for Orange's question, yeah... just realised. Doesnt make sense for Trillram's mecha to be visible if it absorbs everything includig light. He'd be just a black mass. Also, good point. He could've just sent cameras. He had like a dozen with him. Surely he could've scouted the loacation. Maybe he was a bit afraid that by forcig his way trough the tunnel it would collapse, and the survivors migt somehow escape through the mess?
yeah, the reason why Inaho was able to stab him was because they had to make holes in the barrier to receive camera signals.

I've also wondered about how it was visible. I noticed that when he activates the barrier, the mech turns black for a few seconds, then forms color. I'm guessing that moment, it absorbed all the light refracting off of it, making it black, then the armour emits it's own light.
 
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So, people on other boards who are way better at science than me have already come up with several hypotheses as to how the mech could work (in regards to why it's not completely black, how it could communicate, etc).

Also, reminder:
 
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The previous two episodes really didn't make this show seem like it wasn't bringing anything new and different.

Probably the best episode so far, and a good redeeming factor for the 'meh' start the show initially had (given the plot-holes and and unexplained phenomenon).
Slaine=best character in the show so far

*Changing the score from 7 to 8.
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I'm not really impressed so far, maybe I had too high expectations. I hope they explain Inaho's lack of explicit emotions and how he is some genius kid. I understand that it was easy to put together but then why is this kid the only person to figure out the weakness? The princess being that girl was expected. I don't really care in particular for any of the characters or like any of them which is a big minus for me. The martians are also so cartoon (read: over the top) evil.


thus the flaw of the animes. they choose to have MCs in high school. if this were adults, figuring out things would be more believable. being an anime fan, its this "anime logic" that I have come to terms with. Regardless, I thought this was one of the most awesome episodes this season so far. I was disappointed when I saw that Martian pilot guy still alive (yes another anime rule you have to accept, death is mostly minimal) but then when he got killed at the end credit, I was like "yes!!"


Adults or at least some military personnel with real experience working with them directly in order to make it seem more plausible. Gundam definitely doesn't have the adults are stupid and completely incompetent and need kids to do everything for them thing like this show does as an example. I mean I still don't get why Inaho this random high schooler is the only person on Planet Earth with enough insight to engineer a successful counterattack against the Martians so far. I mean who taught him this stuff anyway, did he learn it from drills in their school? If so shouldn't that mean the mindset he's using to approach the counterattack would also be in the Earth Military handbook as well? Why are both sides in this conflict that plays itself off deathly seriously and like a tactics and strategy based show just apparently so utterly stupid lol
 
 
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The science isn't perfect behind it but it was still decent enough to not be stupid and was pretty good logic for an anime. And this stuff is Martian tech so who knows what can fully happen. Maybe the light barrier also acts as a camouflages since the wholes would be super easy to see if the rest was blocked or whatever.
It is alien technology and damn fiction so it I think it is easy to look past a few possible flaws in the logic.


And the Martians attacked like a day ago and the military isn't exactly on the offensive as of now because they know it is hopeless to just blindly launch. Sure if this was a year from now and a highschooler was the first to figure it out it could be silly but it has been a day or two. They clearly didnt' use this tech back on the moon because Humanity would have been aware of it.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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thus the flaw of the animes. they choose to have MCs in high school. if this were adults, figuring out things would be more believable. being an anime fan, its this "anime logic" that I have come to terms with. Regardless, I thought this was one of the most awesome episodes this season so far. I was disappointed when I saw that Martian pilot guy still alive (yes another anime rule you have to accept, death is mostly minimal) but then when he got killed at the end credit, I was like "yes!!"


Adults or at least some military personnel with real experience working with them directly in order to make it seem more plausible. Gundam definitely doesn't have the adults are stupid and completely incompetent and need kids to do everything for them thing like this show does as an example. I mean I still don't get why Inaho this random high schooler is the only person on Planet Earth with enough insight to engineer a successful counterattack against the Martians so far. I mean who taught him this stuff anyway, did he learn it from drills in their school? If so shouldn't that mean the mindset he's using to approach the counterattack would also be in the Earth Military handbook as well? Why are both sides in this conflict that plays itself off deathly seriously and like a tactics and strategy based show just apparently so utterly stupid lol


hehe yea. to be an anime fan you really have to have an open mind. anime logic is way out there.
in this case, the MCs lack of expressing emotion can be a sign of real genius. Most genious people lacks empathy and sociopaths. but it is only the 3rd epi and I have not read the source material so they might explain later why hes like that.
most of the posts are about the realism of the mech barrier, but as someone mentioned, how about the princess' disguise? She just transformed like some magical girl.
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MAKE SURE YOU WATCH PAST THE ED GUYS

o_O

That turned an alright episode into a very good episode. Still wish they would develop the characters more though; we learn more each episode, but I want more.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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thus the flaw of the animes. they choose to have MCs in high school. if this were adults, figuring out things would be more believable. being an anime fan, its this "anime logic" that I have come to terms with. Regardless, I thought this was one of the most awesome episodes this season so far. I was disappointed when I saw that Martian pilot guy still alive (yes another anime rule you have to accept, death is mostly minimal) but then when he got killed at the end credit, I was like "yes!!"


Adults or at least some military personnel with real experience working with them directly in order to make it seem more plausible. Gundam definitely doesn't have the adults are stupid and completely incompetent and need kids to do everything for them thing like this show does as an example. I mean I still don't get why Inaho this random high schooler is the only person on Planet Earth with enough insight to engineer a successful counterattack against the Martians so far. I mean who taught him this stuff anyway, did he learn it from drills in their school? If so shouldn't that mean the mindset he's using to approach the counterattack would also be in the Earth Military handbook as well? Why are both sides in this conflict that plays itself off deathly seriously and like a tactics and strategy based show just apparently so utterly stupid lol


The Martians attacked a day ago and this is clearly the first time this tech has been used since they were shocked. And the military would already be in full retreat and busy doing rescue and not offense. The kids had a chance to figure this out because they were actually fighting. It is not like they have been fighting for a god damn year, it has only been 1-2 days and the military is not on the offense as of now because it backfired at first and they are more busy protecting the citizens when the kids did not really have that to worry about besides not running to the docks.
 
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Adults or at least some military personnel with real experience working with them directly in order to make it seem more plausible. Gundam definitely doesn't have the adults are stupid and completely incompetent and need kids to do everything for them thing like this show does as an example. I mean I still don't get why Inaho this random high schooler is the only person on Planet Earth with enough insight to engineer a successful counterattack against the Martians so far. I mean who taught him this stuff anyway, did he learn it from drills in their school? If so shouldn't that mean the mindset he's using to approach the counterattack would also be in the Earth Military handbook as well? Why are both sides in this conflict that plays itself off deathly seriously and like a tactics and strategy based show just apparently so utterly stupid lol


The Martians attacked a day ago and this is clearly the first time this tech has been used since they were shocked. And the military would already be in full retreat and busy doing rescue and not offense. The kids had a chance to figure this out because they were actually fighting. It is not like they have been fighting for a god damn year, it has only been 1-2 days and the military is not on the offense as of now because it backfired at first and they are more busy protecting the citizens when the kids did not really have that to worry about besides not running to the docks.


Well apparently with this shows logic a day or twos worth of encounters and hours of planning with civilians is more effective than the actual militaries 15 years worth.
 
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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The Martians attacked a day ago and this is clearly the first time this tech has been used since they were shocked. And the military would already be in full retreat and busy doing rescue and not offense. The kids had a chance to figure this out because they were actually fighting. It is not like they have been fighting for a god damn year, it has only been 1-2 days and the military is not on the offense as of now because it backfired at first and they are more busy protecting the citizens when the kids did not really have that to worry about besides not running to the docks.


Well apparently with this shows logic a day or twos worth of encounters and hours of planning with civilians is more effective than the actual militaries 15 years worth.


They martians obviously did not use this tech in the first war or we would have lost the moon in an instant. This is new tech humanity has not faced so they could not have planned for it as humanity did not have knowledge of it. Is that really that hard to understand?
 
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I have a feeling that any hopes of the Princess (or Slaine) finding support from Count Cruhteo may be quite short-lived. Saazbaum was already preparing a meteor bombardment from orbit, which was going to put the landing castle under a degree of risk; if he finds out that Triilram is dead and that the Princess is still alive, what is to stop him targeting Cruhteo's castle directly?

(At least seeing a castle be destroyed in such a fashion would show that they are not quite invulnerable.)


At this point, I wonder if, rather than coming to her aid directly, Cruhteo's death (should it happen) may end up being the trigger for a VERS civil war, especially if he is able to send out a communication to the other clans before the meteors hit. A split between loyalist and opportunist clans on a broader scale might have a longer-term impact, and would mean that the Princess herself (and probably Slaine, too) would be more or less obliged to stay with whoever survives the coming attack rather than link up with a loyalist VERS force any time soon.
 
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Although I'm not a huge fan of "kids/teenagers doing everything", I thought this episode was really good. I appreciated how they thought everything through and their method of taking down a seemingly-invincible Martian was actually legit

Although I do have to question, when they say that the barrier absorbs everything, then shouldn't that include light? How can they see it properly? lol

I wonder what the princess is up to. Can't wait for more episodes and hope it can stay as good as this episode was

Also, that end with Slaine. Amazing...



Like this



Also, people like want scientific explanations of a advanced tecnology never watched/read a sci fi or space opera before ? huh

Try to explain how a FTL engines on space opera works scientifically (not plausibility)
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That was amazing! Not only does it seem like with a little strategy the earthlings do have a chance, but now there's someone who knows the truth on the inside, AND they captured one of the Martian's mecha, so they can study it and gain a real fighting chance!
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:17 PM
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ponygon123 said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


Well apparently with this shows logic a day or twos worth of encounters and hours of planning with civilians is more effective than the actual militaries 15 years worth.


They martians obviously did not use this tech in the first war or we would have lost the moon in an instant. This is new tech humanity has not faced so they could not have planned for it as humanity did not have knowledge of it. Is that really that hard to understand?


nah, youre overreaching for an explanation.
its like a high schooler and someone who has 15 yrs experience in avionics seeing a UFO and suddenly the high schooler knows more about it or at least figured out everything first. it doesn't matter that its the same time their first time seeing it. the guy with experience should know more about it than the high schooler
"....i am the villain in this story"
 
 
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My eyes and ears are content- it was too much of a stretch calling this OST terrible. Come on now...

But i'm not really impressed and i'm not seeing any appeal in Inaho right now.
The character that I will be on the lookout for is Slaine because the last few seconds or so were more exciting to me than almost the entire episode itself.
Not because "HE KILLED A GUY WHAT A BADASS!" but because his actions seem more reasonable than the kid who figured out the entire situation by spending a while looking at the data on his phone in the bathroom or whatever.

Anyway, glad Trillman is dead because his one-liners about pathetic rats and other eye-rolling, cheesy villain-type dialogue is not something I want to keep listening to.

Magical hime is magical huh?
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:18 PM
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I mean I still don't get why Inaho this random high schooler is the only person on Planet Earth with enough insight to engineer a successful counterattack against the Martians so far. I mean who taught him this stuff anyway, did he learn it from drills in their school? If so shouldn't that mean the mindset he's using to approach the counterattack would also be in the Earth Military handbook as well? Why are both sides in this conflict that plays itself off deathly seriously and like a tactics and strategy based show just apparently so utterly stupid lol


To be fair this is one mecha in a remote area that's being evacuated, I doubt anyone was trying to analyze it other than the high school guys since everyone else was dead or already left. As for how they managed to figure it out, well it's pure observation. Last episode I made a long post about the mecha in this and even in the other thread, we speculated that the feet were not shielded and that landmines would have been effective against it. We were right about this, I also assumed that the Aldnoah power had a timer (which turns out to be false, at least for now) but I did correctly deduce that the shield worked both ways and that's the reason he had no ranged weapons.

What bothers me is the design of the mecha, it seems.. so impractical. Firstly the feet are not shielded.. so what would happen if someone blew them up? He would fall and then not be able to get up and would have to turn off his shield. Secondly the way he spots is very impractical, what if his drones got shot down by anti-air forces? Now he's blind. What if the opponent is fast? Now he can't get them and the funniest one of all, what if they went into a tunnel? This mech seems way too impratical for me. I thought that it would have openings for the cameras all over the body, but I was wrong. Even if it used a mix of that + the aerial cameras, that would actually make sense but nah, they only use the aerial cameras.

TLDR: The mech is too impractical and it takes too much effort to make it even remotely effective.
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:19 PM
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parfaited said:
The character that I will be on the lookout for is Slaine because the last few seconds or so were more exciting to me than almost the entire episode itself.
Not because "HE KILLED A GUY WHAT A BADASS!" but because his actions seem more reasonable than the kid who figured out the entire situation by spending a while looking at the data on his phone in the bathroom or whatever.


^ I would upvote or plus or thumbs up if I could.
"....i am the villain in this story"
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:20 PM

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Seems like a fine show in almost every way but I've already developed deep hatred towards Inaho as a main character. What an emotionless Mary Sue. Unbelievable.
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:21 PM

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wow what an episode! absolutely loving the soundtrack in this one;)

5/5

@pakoko

i also thought the explanation how it recieved the camera signal was good enough to not make me think about it any further.
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:23 PM

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Good job in scene after ED there, Slaine.
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:23 PM

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amginex said:
ponygon123 said:


They martians obviously did not use this tech in the first war or we would have lost the moon in an instant. This is new tech humanity has not faced so they could not have planned for it as humanity did not have knowledge of it. Is that really that hard to understand?


nah, youre overreaching for an explanation.
its like a high schooler and someone who has 15 yrs experience in avionics seeing a UFO and suddenly the high schooler knows more about it or at least figured out everything first. it doesn't matter that its the same time their first time seeing it. the guy with experience should know more about it than the high schooler


What, so being a high schooler is a handcap to someone do a reasonable plan ?
Even if they're the FIRST fighting that Martian mecha that survived ?
 
Jul 19, 2014 1:24 PM

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Score +2 up to 10/10. Fucking masterpiece of an episode. I know people would say it was a cliche that the kids managed that, but the way they did it was amazing and not anywhere near what I would call an asspull. Great stuff. Also that ending. No Gargantia shit this time, eh?

Also, Calm survived and he was relevant, WTF? Impressive, I would have sworn he was dead this episode. Even if he dies later on, I appreciate how non-cliche this was.
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Jul 19, 2014 1:24 PM

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DAT OST. Holy shit.

Awesome episode, and the part after the ending...
(•_•) well, I guess you could say that Trillram
( •_•)>⌐■-■ got SLAIN
(⌐■_■) YYYEAAAHHH!
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